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[Tyranniac]

Fox In The Box wrote...

Also, hello everyone! I haven't posted here before. :3

Welcome! 

[lillitheris]

Fox In The Box wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

I kind of disagree with that, too…although, yes, the Codex is a big thing, the first ME game still starts you off pretty much blind and explains everything you need to know along the way.

But Mass Effect is a very long game. The Codex reading is balanced out by the amount of other things you end up doing. A movie only lasts between 1,5/ 3 hours if we really push it. Is that really enough to learn to care about the setting the movie would play out in?

Also, hello everyone! I haven't posted here before. :3

Hi!

I think 2.5 h might be doable. It won’t be great in scope, but… for a basic run through: Normandy - Eden Prime - Citadel/Tali/Garrus/Wrex - Therum - Noveria - Feros - Virmire - Ilos - Citadel.

Actually, I know, heresy, but a big part of Feros could be dumped and just explain that Liara eventually manages to help find the cipher. Or alternatively just combine Noveria and Feros in some manner.

[Tyranniac]

lillitheris wrote...

I think 2.5 h might be doable. It won’t be great in scope, but… for a basic run through: Normandy - Eden Prime - Citadel/Tali/Garrus/Wrex - Therum - Noveria - Feros - Virmire - Ilos - Citadel.

Actually, I know, heresy, but a big part of Feros could be dumped and just explain that Liara eventually manages to help find the cipher. Or alternatively just combine Noveria and Feros in some manner.

You wouldn't prefer that over an original storyline though, would you?

[Han Shot First]

Anyone have any theories on what the biologcal function of those head tentacles (or cartilage) are?

Considering that the Asari are so biotically active, and biotics even plays a role in reproduction, my guess is that they contain structures that are linked to Asari biotics. Most biotics need implants in order to control their biotic abilities, but this would not be practical for Asari reproduction, since they would have needed to reproduce long before they developed the technological know how to create and surgically implant biotic amps. My guess is that they contain structures that act as sort of a natural biotic amp, allowing them to use biotics during reproduction. Having these structures be close to the brain would also make sense, IMO,

Beyond that I imagine they also serve a similar biological process as the hair on our heads: insulating the brain against both intense heat from their sun, or extreme cold temperatures.

[CrimsonN7]

Fox In The Box wrote...

Also, hello everyone! I haven't posted here before. :3

Too soon for xmas in space?

[Tyranniac]

Han Shot First wrote...

Anyone have any theories on what the biologcal function of those head tentacles (or cartilage) are?

Considering that the Asari are so biotically active, and biotics even plays a role in reproduction, my guess is that they contain structures that are linked to Asari biotics. Most biotics need implants in order to control their biotic abilities, but this would not be practical for Asari reproduction, since they would have needed to reproduce long before they developed the technological know how to create and surgically implant biotic amps. My guess is that they contain structures that act as sort of a natural biotic amp, allowing them to use biotics during reproduction. Having these structures be close to the brain would also make sense, IMO,

Beyond that I imagine they also serve a similar biological process as the hair on our heads: insulating the brain against both intense heat from their sun, or extreme cold temperatures.

Well, I'm still of the opinion that Javik was telling the truth and they gained those after several generations of mating with lizards, so they might not serve any function at all beside being ornaments.

[Aristobulus500]

Han Shot First wrote...

Anyone have any theories on what the biologcal function of those head tentacles (or cartilage) are?

Considering that the Asari are so biotically active, and biotics even plays a role in reproduction, my guess is that they contain structures that are linked to Asari biotics. Most biotics need implants in order to control their biotic abilities, but this would not be practical for Asari reproduction, since they would have needed to reproduce long before they developed the technological know how to create and surgically implant biotic amps. My guess is that they contain structures that act as sort of a natural biotic amp, allowing them to use biotics during reproduction. Having these structures be close to the brain would also make sense, IMO,

Beyond that I imagine they also serve a similar biological process as the hair on our heads: insulating the brain against both intense heat from their sun, or extreme cold temperatures.

I always just figured they served to regulate temperatures around the skull, and were some protection, too. I always imagined that the tentacles, for ancient asari and whatever they evolved from, were longer/larger, too, and got smaller over time.

I like that they also serve as a node for their biotics, though. It's an interesting theory.

[lillitheris]

Tyranniac wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

I think 2.5 h might be doable. It won’t be great in scope, but… for a basic run through: Normandy - Eden Prime - Citadel/Tali/Garrus/Wrex - Therum - Noveria - Feros - Virmire - Ilos - Citadel.

Actually, I know, heresy, but a big part of Feros could be dumped and just explain that Liara eventually manages to help find the cipher. Or alternatively just combine Noveria and Feros in some manner.

You wouldn't prefer that over an original storyline though, would you?

I think I would…you see, my thinking is that even if it completely botches the game events, we’ll still have the real version in the game. If, on the other hand, there’s a new story and it sucks, it might introduce unignorable suck into canon.

Also, Liara is totally the canon LI for a movie. Avatar already got everybody on the blue team.

[Fox In The Box]

Aw. You guys are too sweet

lillitheris wrote...

I think 2.5 h might be doable. It won’t be great in scope, but… for a basic run through: Normandy - Eden Prime - Citadel/Tali/Garrus/Wrex - Therum - Noveria - Feros - Virmire - Ilos - Citadel.

Actually, I know, heresy, but a big part of Feros could be dumped and just explain that Liara eventually manages to help find the cipher. Or alternatively just combine Noveria and Feros in some manner.

Hm. I'm not sure how I'd feel about making a movie about Shepard since it would probably default to one particular kind of Shepard, but okay. Peter Jackson did manage to make a decent movie adaption of LOTR, after all, even though those were books. So maybe! I remain a skeptic, however.

[Aristobulus500]

I don't really like people comparing the Asari to the Na'vi, other than that they are both blue. The Na'vi always kinda...creeped me out. Serious uncanny valley going for them or something. Their proportions are really awkward and their faces and eyes especially just...it's creepy.

That and they are furries.

They really don't have anything on the Asari.

[kyg_20X6]

villevalo wrote...

Still, if rumors are to be believed then a DLC with just you and your LI is to be released.

It'd be the highlight of the series if I could spend a whole DLC with just Liara.

What rumors?

[Tyranniac]

lillitheris wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

You wouldn't prefer that over an original storyline though, would you?

I think I would…you see, my thinking is that even if it completely botches the game events, we’ll still have the real version in the game. If, on the other hand, there’s a new story and it sucks, it might introduce unignorable suck into canon.

Wow... that's a pretty negative view.

I can see your point, but still. I agree that it would be better if a sucky movie was based on the game that an original story for the reason you said, but I actually think an original storyline could add something meaningful to the universe. I'd love to see game universes translating into movies successfully. Also, I just don't see a movie based on the game working. I'll definantly reject it. I can understand your reasoning about it being a separate canon from your own but I still wouldn't be able to stand it.

[kyg_20X6]

Also, Meer's confirmed he's working on the EC. Granted, it could be voicing the Catalyst but few people know he (and Hale) do that so they're going to assume it's for Shepard. If it was for the Catalyst only, I don't think he'd have confirmed he was doing anything. Same goes for Hale (who tweeted the other day she's doing more work).

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 31 mai 2012 - 09:59 .

[Han Shot First]

Tyranniac wrote...
Well, I'm still of the opinion that Javik was telling the truth and they gained those after several generations of mating with lizards, so they might not serve any function at all beside being ornaments.

The motive behind reproduction with aliens for the Asari, is to gain traits that would be advantageous for the species. Whether or not that actually happens or is just Asari folklore isn't really expanded on, but assuming it does (as Javik's dialogue seems to indicate) than the purpose of the head tentacles would have to be more than just mere ornaments. If Javik is taking at his word the head tentacles would have to serve some biological function, otherwise the trait wouldn't have been selected and passed on.
 

I always just figured they served to regulate temperatures around the skull, and were some protection, too

That would be an interesting adaptation. Rather than insulating the brain from the sun or extreme cold, they act as a kind of internal air conditioning or heating system to regulate brain temperature.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 31 mai 2012 - 09:43 .

[TheDonk95]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Also, Meer's confirmed he's working on the EC. Granted, it could be voicing the Catalyst but few people know he (and Hale) do that so they're going to assume it's for Shepard. If it was for the Catalyst only, I don't think he'd have said confirmed he was doing anything. Same goes for Hale (who tweeted the other day she's doing more work).

Yeah that could be two things: He and Jennifer Hale are working on new dialogues for Shepard, or together they are making new Space Kid voice acting. Probably more voice acting for the kiddo.
Not trying to ruin your hype but I'm trying to be realistic.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Han Shot First wrote...

Anyone have any theories on what the biologcal function of those head tentacles (or cartilage) are?

Considering that the Asari are so biotically active, and biotics even plays a role in reproduction, my guess is that they contain structures that are linked to Asari biotics. Most biotics need implants in order to control their biotic abilities, but this would not be practical for Asari reproduction, since they would have needed to reproduce long before they developed the technological know how to create and surgically implant biotic amps. My guess is that they contain structures that act as sort of a natural biotic amp, allowing them to use biotics during reproduction. Having these structures be close to the brain would also make sense, IMO,

Beyond that I imagine they also serve a similar biological process as the hair on our heads: insulating the brain against both intense heat from their sun, or extreme cold temperatures.

I thought that their mind-melding ability is not directly related to their biotics.

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

I,
too, never understood the fascination with killing off characters. I
don't like only a couple of squad members in the whole trilogy, but why
would I want to purposefully sabotage and kill them? Everyone in
Shepard's crew gives their life on the line to help him/her succeed, and
for that, I would most definitely try to protect them in return. I
don't like a character - I deal with it, but I won't turn away their
help. They also add something to the story and ME3 suffers for their
absence.

Some people just aren't that invested in the
series, and they're detached enough that they enjoy treating it like GTA
and seeing all the ways they can get people killed. Some people are a
little disturbed and hate characters so much that they actively enjoy
watching them die.

It mostly comes down to just not being that attached to the ME universe and setting though.

I take offence at the last line.

[PMC65]

I would prefer the film to center around the First Contact War myself.

I'd be there on opening day for that one! Theater seat? Check! Popcorn? Check! Soda? Check?

Start the MOVIE!!!!!!!

[villevalo]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

villevalo wrote...

Still, if rumors are to be believed then a DLC with just you and your LI is to be released.

It'd be the highlight of the series if I could spend a whole DLC with just Liara.

What rumors?

You must not visit other parts of this forum much I take it?

There's a few potential DLC rumours being tossed arround, some stemming from Bioware twitter titbits others from game articles, rumors from other forums. The LI one is one that I've seen mentioned on more than one occassion. Like any rumor you take it with a very large pinch of salt.

Modifié par villevalo, 31 mai 2012 - 09:57 .

[kyg_20X6]

TheDonk95 wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Also, Meer's confirmed he's working on the EC. Granted, it could be voicing the Catalyst but few people know he (and Hale) do that so they're going to assume it's for Shepard. If it was for the Catalyst only, I don't think he'd have confirmed he was doing anything. Same goes for Hale (who tweeted the other day she's doing more work).

Yeah that could be two things: He and Jennifer Hale are working on new dialogues for Shepard, or together they are making new Space Kid voice acting. Probably more voice acting for the kiddo.
Not trying to ruin your hype but I'm trying to be realistic.

I don't think that's the more realistic interpretation.

[Han Shot First]

Lizardviking wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...



Considering that the Asari are so biotically active, and biotics even plays a role in reproduction,

I thought that their mind-melding ability is not directly related to their biotics.

The codex suggests that the mind-melding ability is directly related to their excellent control of biotic abilities, but it isn't clear on whether mind-melding itself involves biotics. I suspect that it does, since most forms of life on Thessia are biotically active. Biotics also serves as a convenient explanation for how the mind-melding works. Without it we have no explanation, and it falls under the realm of 'space magic.'

Also in Liara's romance scene there is a biotic flare.

On squad mate deaths:

There are really two different groups of people who want squadmate deaths in the game:

The first are people who just want to kill off characters they don't like, or because they think it is funny.

The second are people who want to lose characters they like, because of the emotional impact it brings when the scene is done well. See Thane & Mordin for examples.

I fall into the second group. I'm against having an option to play through ME3 where every person on the Normandy's manifest survives, not because I want to kill squadmates I don't like, but because losing a squadmate or two gives the story more emotional impact. It is part of the reason why I liked Virmire so much: No matter what Shepard does he can't save everyone, and is forced to leave either Ashley or Kaidan behind. If you like both characters, it is gut-wrenching. It also adds an element of realism to the story, since one of the hard realities of combat leadership is that you are going to lose people under your command.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 31 mai 2012 - 10:03 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Han Shot First wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...



Considering that the Asari are so biotically active, and biotics even plays a role in reproduction,

I thought that their mind-melding ability is not directly related to their biotics.

The codex suggests that the mind-melding ability is directly related to their excellent control of biotic abilities, but it isn't clear on whether mind-melding itself involves biotics. I suspect that it does, since most forms of life on Thessia are biotically active. Biotics also serves as a convenient explanation for how the mind-melding works. Without it we have no explanation, and it falls under the realm of 'space magic.'

Also in Liara's romance scene there is a biotic flare.

But they don't use biotics. Biotics is the ability to manipulate mass and etc. through dark energy, mind melding is something quite different yes?

And Samara also has her biotics flare up as she stops the kiss. Maybe Asari just like to show them off?

[Aristobulus500]

I think biotics just tend to flare up around them when they get emotional, since it's so strongly linked to brain activity and everything. I mean, Liara does it when she's angry at Javik, and when she's having sex with Shepard.

Though if this theory is right, she probably should've had her biotics flaring up when she was distressed over Thessia.

[kyg_20X6]

villevalo wrote...
You must not visit other parts of this forum much I take it?

There's a few potential DLC rumours being tossed arround, some stemming from Bioware twitter titbits others from game articles, rumors from other forums. The LI one is one that I've seen mentioned on more than one occassion. Like any rumor you take it with a very large pinch of salt.

I follow the story/campaign forum quite closely and follow most of the major BW twitter accounts (and read too much into their tweets, don't we all!) and I've never seen anything that hinted at that DLC. I've seen lots of threads for fan-made ideas (like Omega DLC and the one you mentioned) but nothing stemming from info coming from BW.

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 31 mai 2012 - 10:05 .

[Tyranniac]

PMC65 wrote...

I would prefer the film to center around the First Contact War myself.

I'd be there on opening day for that one! Theater seat? Check! Popcorn? Check! Soda? Check?

Start the MOVIE!!!!!!!

Oh yes, I agree. That'd be quite interesting.

Lizardviking wrote...

I take offence at the last line. 

 

You enjoy killing off characters you don't like?  Or am I misunderstanding you?

Crap, top... somebody cover for me?

Modifié par Tyranniac, 31 mai 2012 - 10:06 .

[Wulfram]

I've really never seen the interest in the FCW. A few minor fights and then the Space UN coming out of nowhere and stopping everything doesn't seem like an interesting film.