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[Theodoro]

Lizardviking wrote...

I concuer with this. This armor looks too close to ME1's armor design, I prefer her current white armor.

Yeah, and it also looks too much like the Phoenix armor, which I wasn't a big fan of. Though I think that the more armor choices we have, the better.

Modifié par Theodoro, 02 juin 2012 - 09:30 .

[shepard1038]

Isn't it odd that Liara is the only Li to get three romance scene in all three games?

@Lizardviking

Nice photos

Modifié par shepard1038, 02 juin 2012 - 09:37 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Theodoro wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

I concuer with this. This armor looks too close to ME1's armor design, I prefer her current white armor.

Yeah, and it also looks too much like the Phoenix armor, which I wasn't a big fan of. Though I think that the more armor choices we have, the better.

More options for those that want it wouldn't hurt. Perhaps have this and her Redemption armor be available in the next DLC?

Speaking of DLC. While many haters would loath the idea I think having Liara be our quest giver or information provider would help redeem her lack of shadow-brokering in ME3.

[Tyranniac]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Anyway, the current in-game data suggests that passive Reaper Tech is just a effective as active ones. Like the "dead" Reaper(passive) compared to Sovereign(active). Why doesn't any of Sovereign's bits and pieces Indoctrinate others when the derelict Reaper could? It was just as dead as Sovereign, just more whole rather than in chunks. If you're going to say that Reaper Tech indoctrinates people then set some rules for it. Set some limits and clarify why something works when others don't. There wasn't a "centralized" Indoc center on the derelict Reaper that would affect people IIRC. Everyone on that ship was just a vulnerable as everyone else. Why doesn't this stuff have a simple "ON/OFF" switch? In ME1 it did. Sovereign chose when to indoc people and when not to. He could even set a setting on his little Indoc Microwave Oven. 

 

From what I gather it goes something like this:

Reaper's indoctrinate those in their presence. Also, when did Sovereign ever choose not to indoctrinate? Did I miss that?

The Derelict Reaper still indoctrinated those near it because part of it's powerful mind was still lingering near the corpse. The Reapers are ancient machine gods. We don't know what death means to them and when they are truly dead.

Indoctrination artifacts like the ones in ME1, Object Rho and those in the N7/MP missions in ME3 allow the Reapers to indoctrinate remotely, but it is still done the same way with exposure to the godlike minds of the Reapers with all the usual subtle signals.

Reaper implants like those used on Saren, Grayson and Cerberus also seem to allow more long-range indoctrination, as well as better control with less mental degradation.

I don't think we've ever seen any indication that other types of Reaper tech causes indoctrination.

Aristobulus500 wrote...
 tell me this, how would Thessia not having a planet - what kind of an impact WOULD it have on the planet? I'm getting mixed messages here.

 

Theodoro wrote...

I have to agree with Aristobulus. Liara's comments on Noveria prove that she's having trouble with the cold. The asari also appear to colonize warm planets such as Illium - which has a surface temperature of 63 °C, and they do so since they seem to be more suited for warmer temperatures.

 

Agree.

[TheDonk95]

shepard1038 wrote...

Isn't it odd that Liara is the only Li to get three romance scene in all three games?

@Lizardviking

Nice photos

If you consider LotSB's cabin scene as a romance scene, no it isn't.
As I said, It is quite obvious that Liara is one of Bioware's favorite, if not the favorite characters, so they gave her the most content in the games.
And blue is also my favorite color! (Not just because of Liara, it's always been my favorite color).

[TheDonk95]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg21/scaled.php?server=21&filename=wmplayer201204110132459.jpg&res=landing

What a beautiful picture. You can tell from the way the look at each other that they are in love. Bioware did an absolutley perfect job in my opinion in this scene. One of my favorite from the entire trilogy.

[Jebel Krong]

MidnightRaith wrote...

Even Cerberus just annoys me. In ME2, they were great. Ironically, Cerberus was like the organization version of Shepard. People in Cerberus could either be anti-alien or pro-human which is extemely similar to Renegade Shep and Paragon Shep respectively. The Illusive Man is anti-alien. Miranda is pro-human. They both represent Cerberus very well in the course of the game. Come ME3, that stuff is gone. Now, Cerberus stands for doing the dumbest things in the game. They simply got too much attention and not much of it was productive. Cerberus feels more like the antagonist than the Reapers throughout much of it and that really defeats the purpose of having built the Reapers up for the past two games.

i agree with most of what you said except about paragon/renegade shepard: renegade is not necessarily anti-alien, and paragon pro-, that's not what the alignment system represents.

cerberus was clumsily handled in me3 compared to me2, where they were much more subtle and therefore a bigger threat, the videos at the end of the assault on the station re-inforce that horribly. Unfortunately i don't think BW knew how to bring a reaper-threat down to something that you could interact with on a personal level.

[aletto]

the whole series was based on decisions like "good" or "evil" and I think that scheme is too unrealistic and predictable. in me2 cerberus was kinda pragmatic, in me3 they're just evil and in the end, it's all about indoctrination >.< that's why I like the deus ex series
Back to liara:
I've been replaying ME2 and modded Liara into the squad (goodbye jacob) and it's kinda hilarious. She just stands there in the cutscenes, doing nothing. (Ship falling down the cliff? I'm staying! Shuttle arrives? I'm staying!)

Modifié par aletto, 02 juin 2012 - 10:09 .

[TheDonk95]

aletto wrote...

the whole series was based on decisions like "good" or "evil" and I think that scheme is too unrealistic and predictable. in me2 cerberus was kinda pragmatic, in me3 they're just evil and in the end, it's all about indoctrination >.< that's why I like the deus ex series
Back to liara:
I've been replaying ME2 and modded Liara into the squad (goodbye jacob) and it's kinda hilarious. She just stands there in the cutscenes, doing nothing. (Ship falling down the cliff? I'm staying! Shuttle arrives? I'm staying!)

I didn't know you can do that...
Too bad I'm playing on Xbox

[Akernis]

aletto wrote...

the whole series was based on decisions like "good" or "evil" and I think that scheme is too unrealistic and predictable. in me2 cerberus was kinda pragmatic, in me3 they're just evil and in the end

"I was with Cerberus when they were vigilantees helping the helpless, now they are little too maintream... and evil"

Okay I don't agree with joker I never really liked Cerberus but things seemed to get too black and white in much of ME3, I would also have prefered to Reapers to have far more screen time compared to Cerberus.

Lizardviking wrote...

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

Thanks, I love that picture  

Modifié par Akernis, 02 juin 2012 - 11:03 .

[Theodoro]

Akernis wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

Thanks, I love that picture  

Indeed. I love it how Liara rests her chin lovingly on Shepard's shoulder that way. Quite adorable.

[TMA LIVE]

ForgottenWarrior wrote...

Has anyone posted it yet?

Liara's unused armor

Where did you find this?

[rubynorman]

TMA LIVE wrote...

ForgottenWarrior wrote...

Has anyone posted it yet?

Liara's unused armor
*snip*

Where did you find this?

I google it and found it in here cghub.com/images/view/232511/

Modifié par rubynorman, 02 juin 2012 - 02:01 .

[Aristobulus500]

shepard1038 wrote...

@Aristobulus500
Saw your link why does Liara eyes appear that way?

'Cause she just took a hit and is feelin' mellow~

Or if you mean what was actually happening? A really luckily timed screenshot, when she was probably bringing her hand up to her face, or down, and was blinking or something. I'm not sure. I just find the expression perfect though.

Also, on the subject of that pre-Cronos station scene, the animations really are amazing there - the way Liara and Shep move, especially when they lock hands and kiss...and then of course, how Liara just unashamedly rests on the bed, peering over Shepard's shoulder at him - the way she regards him and looks at him, you can tell it's just pure love.

[Ajosraa]

Theodoro wrote...

Sorry for the off-topic question, but do we know for certain that Thessia doesn't have any moons? I've been reading the Codex and the Mass Effect Wiki and there's no mention of any moons, but I could have easily missed something.

Planet topic:

I dont remember any mention, But from what I know of physics...If they dident, then their planet might "wobble" on its axis too much to retain an evironment suitable for life. The temperature would switch back and forth too much. The Earth's moon for example, helps to stabilize this wobble. Its kind of like how when you put a pontoon onto the side of a small boat.

So I would assume they have one...Or there is some other method of making a planet stable on its axis that I dont know about...

Yes, the tilt of the Earth affects what seasons their are, BUT that Tilt is influenced by the gravitational force of the Moon. If it was not their, the Earth would tilt much more then 22 degrees every 20 thousand years( Ive heard) or as little as it does between seasons

If said planet was wobbleing around too much, You wouldent really have to worry about beaches, bucause their wouldent really be stable beachfronts. They would shift around alot. Flooding anyting near by as the moon still tugged on the planets water bodies.

But perhaps i came too late to this topic and your all done   oh well, thats what I remember about the effects of moons on planets from Discovery channel and school stuff.


Temperature Topic:

OMG, did you say that the Asari live on a colony that is 63 degrees C? Thats hella hot! Thats 145 degrees F. That would be hell for humans. But then again, that could be the average and their are cooler areas that are settled...






Awsome. Very nice. I wont turn this down if we ever get it in ME3. Reminds me of ME1 a lot.

This one I like too. I think Liara looks better with the Headband on her white uniform a bit after seeing this.

Modifié par Ajosraa, 02 juin 2012 - 03:03 .

[Fox In The Box]

TheDonk95 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Isn't it odd that Liara is the only Li to get three romance scene in all three games?

@Lizardviking

Nice photos

If you consider LotSB's cabin scene as a romance scene, no it isn't.
As I said, It is quite obvious that Liara is one of Bioware's favorite, if not the favorite characters, so they gave her the most content in the games.
And blue is also my favorite color! (Not just because of Liara, it's always been my favorite color).

That, and she's guaranteed to live through all games. They're not wasting any resources adding scenes with her that they can modify depending on whether she's Shepard's friend or lover. Also, it might serve as an excuse for Bioware to work with Ali Hillis as much as possible - she seems like a really fun person.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 02 juin 2012 - 02:54 .

[TheDonk95]

Fox In The Box wrote...

TheDonk95 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Isn't it odd that Liara is the only Li to get three romance scene in all three games?

@Lizardviking

Nice photos

If you consider LotSB's cabin scene as a romance scene, no it isn't.
As I said, It is quite obvious that Liara is one of Bioware's favorite, if not the favorite characters, so they gave her the most content in the games.
And blue is also my favorite color! (Not just because of Liara, it's always been my favorite color).

That, and she's guaranteed to live through all games. They're not wasting any resources adding scenes with her that they can modify depending on whether she's Shepard's friend or lover. Also, it might serve as an excuse for Bioware to work with Ali Hillis as much as possible - she seems like a really fun person.

Ofcourse they aren't wasting any resources. There was supposed to be much more to the game, but all this content was held back by EA. If they are doing a big and juicy romance scene for Liara it doesn't mean that they were wasting all their resources on this. That's not the reason why Tali's face and romance scene was very poorly made.
And yeah I agree Ali Hillis does look like a wounderful person... After all, she has the voice of Liara.

[Dragon_Claw]

Theodoro wrote...

Also, I'm a fan of Aristobulus' avatar, too. There seem to be a lot of pictures with Liara smoking in them:

Taking her Shadow Broker persona to a new level

[Fox In The Box]

TheDonk95 wrote...
Ofcourse they aren't wasting any resources. There was supposed to be much more to the game, but all this content was held back by EA. If they are doing a big and juicy romance scene for Liara it doesn't mean that they were wasting all their resources on this. That's not the reason why Tali's face and romance scene was very poorly made.

I never said anything of the sort. I only meant that they may have paid more attention to characters that were the most likely to appear in ME3. It's clear that they focused mainly on the trio from ME1, while the crewmembers from ME2 - all of whom can die -  and the new kids in ME3 got a little less impressive scenes. Though tons of Ashley content was cut, for no apparent reason at all. I thought more players saved her than Kaidan.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 02 juin 2012 - 03:36 .

[TheDonk95]

Fox In The Box wrote...

TheDonk95 wrote...
Ofcourse they aren't wasting any resources. There was supposed to be much more to the game, but all this content was held back by EA. If they are doing a big and juicy romance scene for Liara it doesn't mean that they were wasting all their resources on this. That's not the reason why Tali's face and romance scene was very poorly made.

I never said anything of the sort. I only meant that they may have paid more attention to characters that were the most likely to appear in ME3. It's clear that they focused mainly on the trio from ME1, while the crewmembers from ME2 - all of whom can die -  and the new kids in ME3 got a little less impressive scenes. Though tons of Ashley content was cut, for no apparent reason at all. I thought more players saved her than Kaidan.

Well, I didn't mean for the comment to appear as an opposite of what you said, I was just pointing out something.
And do you know by any chance what was all the Ashley content that was held back? I'm just curious.

[Fox In The Box]

TheDonk95 wrote...

Well, I didn't mean for the comment to appear as an opposite of what you said, I was just pointing out something.
And do you know by any chance what was all the Ashley content that was held back? I'm just curious.

I don't know much for sure, other than what other people have said. Apparently Ashley had a conversation with Shepard regarding the afterlife. I've read one supposed conversation she has with another character, but I can't verify if it's legit - though people who have saved her instead of Kaidan complain that she has very little content compared to him after she gets back on the Normandy, so it's been extrapolated that she should have had more, but that it didn't make the cut.

[TheDonk95]

Hmm.. Intresting conversation. That could have actually be a cool addition to all the Ashmancer out there. Too bad it didn't make the cut. Thanks for posting this.

[Han Shot First]

But tell me this, how would Thessia not having a planet - what kind of an impact WOULD it have on the planet? I'm getting mixed messages here.
I assumed the main difference would be in tides, so a Thessian beach would be very different from an Earth beach.

There would still be tides because stars exert gravitational pull on planets as well. If our moon suddenly disappeared ocean would still have a tide, it would just be reduced and occur at different times. The moon accounts for something like 56% of the Earth's tidal energy, with our more distant sun accounting for the rest. So without a moon there would still be tidal forces exerted on Thessia's oceans from its parent star, but the tides there would probably be lower than they are on Earth.

While our moon stabilizes our axis and prevents wild shifts in seasons, and also slows the spin of the Earth so that we have longer days and less violent winds, it is hard to say what effect the lack of a moon would have on Thessia. We don't know enough about Thessia and how it is interacting with its parent star or sister planets. I'd guess though that it has a stable axis, since intelligent life was able to develop there. It would be harder to imagine that happening if the planet had wild shifts in seasons or frequent ice ages.

Before the Asari developed electricity nights on the planets must have been extremely dark without moonlight. With that in mind, perhaps they have better night vision than humans do.

[Theodoro]

Han Shot First wrote...
While our moon stabilizes our axis and prevents wild shifts in seasons, and also slows the spin of the Earth so that we have longer days and less violent winds, it is hard to say what effect the lack of a moon would have on Thessia. We don't know enough about Thessia and how it is interacting with its parent star or sister planets. I'd guess though that it has a stable axis, since intelligent life was able to develop there. It would be harder to imagine that happening if the planet had wild shifts in seasons or frequent ice ages.

Before the Asari developed electricity nights on the planets must have been extremely dark without moonlight. With that in mind, perhaps they have better night vision than humans do.

I guess that the lack of moon could affect Thessia differently than Earth. Seeing as how the asari do survive without apparent problems and are said to be the most developed race, not having a moon has seemingly not prevented or hindered them from advancing. It would be interesting to see how Thessia would look like at night-time. Now that the asari have infrastructure and lighting it shouldn't be a problem for them, but it could still be different than night-time on Earth. Another planet in the system could act as somewhat of a substitute as the brightest spot on the sky instead of a moon.

Edit: And I like the fact that the asari might have adapted to darker environment. That could be one more distinct feature of their species. 

Modifié par Theodoro, 02 juin 2012 - 05:48 .

[Tyranniac]

Han Shot First wrote...


Before the Asari developed electricity nights on the planets must have been extremely dark without moonlight. With that in mind, perhaps they have better night vision than humans do.

Hm, hadn't even thought of that. Interesting... wonder if they do indeed have better night vision.