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Before the Asari developed electricity nights on the planets must have been extremely dark without moonlight. With that in mind, perhaps they have better night vision than humans do.


Wow, that makes alot of sense. Asari probably have enhanced vision that was developed in them through evolution, since the lack of moon light. Great thinking man! 

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It would be interesting to see how Thessia would look like at night-time. Now that the asari have infrastructure and lighting it shouldn't be a problem for them, but it could still be different than night-time on Earth. Another planet in the system could act as somewhat of a substitute as the brightest spot on the sky instead of a moon.



I would imagine the night sky over Thessia would be beautiful in places where you were away from urban sprawl and there was little or no light pollution.

While I was in the Marines we would occasionally train at the Pohakuloa Training Area on the Big Island of Hawaii. PTA lies between the volcanos Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea, and is right below the observatory on Mauna Kea. It is one of the darkest places in the United States and on clear, moonless nights you often had stunning views of one of the great spiral arms of the Milky Way in the night sky. It was sometimes so bright that it would cast shadows on the ground. Being born and raised in a city where you are lucky to see maybe a dozen stars in the sky on a clear night, it was pretty awe-inspiring.

The view of the Milky Way from Mauna Kea:


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I imagine the night sky on Thessia would look similar in dark places away from the cities, though of course they'd either be looking at a different arm or the same one from a different angle.

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Han Shot First wrote...
While I was in the Marines we would occasionally train at the Pohakuloa Training Area on the Big Island of Hawaii. PTA lies between the volcanos Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea, and is right below the observatory on Mauna Kea. It is one of the darkest places in the United States and on clear, moonless nights you often had stunning views of one of the great spiral arms of the Milky Way in the night sky. It was sometimes so bright that it would cast shadows on the ground. Being born and raised in a city where you are lucky to see maybe a dozen stars in the sky on a clear night, it was pretty awe-inspiring.

The view of the Milky Way from Mauna Kea:
*snip*

Wow, these are simply beautiful! It's marvellous how from different places on the planet you could get such striking views that are impossible to see elsewhere. These are simply stunning! It must have been gorgeous.

I'd imagine that Thessia would have its unique view of the Milky Way, as well, especially from somewhere away from the city. The planet itself is not a planetwide city, right? There must be places away from the infrastructure where one could get lost in nature and enjoy such views, though I find it difficult to imagine how that would look like on Thessia since I've always associated it with the city rather than the planet as a whole. Ah, there are just so many things we don't know or haven't seen!

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Theodoro wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
While I was in the Marines we would occasionally train at the Pohakuloa Training Area on the Big Island of Hawaii. PTA lies between the volcanos Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea, and is right below the observatory on Mauna Kea. It is one of the darkest places in the United States and on clear, moonless nights you often had stunning views of one of the great spiral arms of the Milky Way in the night sky. It was sometimes so bright that it would cast shadows on the ground. Being born and raised in a city where you are lucky to see maybe a dozen stars in the sky on a clear night, it was pretty awe-inspiring.

The view of the Milky Way from Mauna Kea:
*snip*

Wow, these are simply beautiful! It's marvellous how from different places on the planet you could get such striking views that are impossible to see elsewhere. These are simply stunning! It must have been gorgeous.

Agreed, those looks amazing, a view like that from Thessia would be absolutly gorgeous.

I can just imagine a little Liara somehwat outside Amali in her chieldhood days or outside Serrice doing her studies simply sitting on the ground and enjoying the comfortingly dark night and beautiful celestial sky Image IPB

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Wow, these are simply beautiful! It's marvellous how from different places on the planet you could get such striking views that are impossible to see elsewhere. These are simply stunning! It must have been gorgeous.


Yeah... just wow. I didn't even know there were nightskies like that. :pinched:

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Tyranniac wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

Wow, these are simply beautiful! It's marvellous how from different places on the planet you could get such striking views that are impossible to see elsewhere. These are simply stunning! It must have been gorgeous.


Yeah... just wow. I didn't even know there were nightskies like that. :pinched:


There aren’t, for the human eye. ()

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Han Shot First wrote...

I would imagine the night sky over Thessia would be beautiful in places where you were away from urban sprawl and there was little or no light pollution.

While I was in the Marines we would occasionally train at the Pohakuloa Training Area on the Big Island of Hawaii. PTA lies between the volcanos Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea, and is right below the observatory on Mauna Kea. It is one of the darkest places in the United States and on clear, moonless nights you often had stunning views of one of the great spiral arms of the Milky Way in the night sky. It was sometimes so bright that it would cast shadows on the ground. Being born and raised in a city where you are lucky to see maybe a dozen stars in the sky on a clear night, it was pretty awe-inspiring.

The view of the Milky Way from Mauna Kea:

*stunning photos that are a shame to snipp out, so I'll replace them with links instead*
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I imagine the night sky on Thessia would look similar in dark places away from the cities, though of course they'd either be looking at a different arm or the same one from a different angle.

Beautiful photos, I would just like to correct or clarify a few details since it also touches on the subject of what a Thessian night sky may look like.

What you see when you look at the subtly glowing shape of the 'milky way' in the night sky is not really one of its spiral arms, but simply the body of the entire galaxy seen edge-on, the faint indiscernible light of its billions of stars fused together into a faint diffused glow. Our galaxy is pretty flat, as all spiral galaxies tend to be, and the concentration of stars increases nearer its centre; that's why the central part of the galactic plane, seen as the 'milky way' from our vantage point on Earth (which itself lies inside the galactic plane), appears so much brighter than the rest of our night sky.
As for our spiral arm, the concentration of stars in it is actually quite low, about one stars per cubic parsec (roughly 35 cubic light years). The stars of the spiral arm are actually what you see when you look in any other direction than at the 'milky way'.

The brightest part of the 'milky way', the galactic core itself, is unfortunately obscured by huge nebulae of opaque interstellar molecular dust, which are present all across the galactic plane. If not for these nebulae blocking our view, the galactic core would shine very bright in our night sky, probably rivalling the brightness of a partial moon.

All this can be applied to speculation what a Thessian night sky might look like. Asari would see their own 'milky way' strewn across their sky, a view quite similar to that on Earth. And depending on their luck, they may have a far less obstructed view of the galactic centre than us, in which case, despite having no moon, Thessian nights may not be as dark as we imagined.

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lillitheris wrote...


There aren’t, for the human eye. ()


Oh. *feels dumb*

That sure seems like an enjoyable hobby though.

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Wow, these are simply beautiful! It's marvellous how from different places on the planet you could get such striking views that are impossible to see elsewhere. These are simply stunning! It must have been gorgeous.

I'd imagine that Thessia would have its unique view of the Milky Way, as well, especially from somewhere away from the city. The planet itself is not a planetwide city, right? There must be places away from the infrastructure where one could get lost in nature and enjoy such views, though I find it difficult to imagine how that would look like on Thessia since I've always associated it with the city rather than the planet as a whole. Ah, there are just so many things we don't know or haven't seen!


I really doubt Thessia is a planetwide city - the Asari seem like a race that would value natural sights and wonders, and nature as a whole - I mean, even in the main city, you see they kept a wide ocean or lake.

There are no doubt many parts of the planet that are rural, or outright uninhabited, that an Asari could take a trip to, to enjoy getting away from a city for a while.

I do think Thessia would have lots of cool looking sights to see in the wild, and yes, some of the views you'd have of the night sky would be beautiful, and considering Thessia's placement in the galaxy compared to Earth, very different. If they don't have a moon, even more different.

A friend pointed out to me that when the Protheans protected Thessia from an asteroid, the remaining pieces of that should be orbiting Thessia as satellites - those might be visible from the ground, too.

Considering Liara is an archaeologist and spent so much time on her own, she definitely would have an appreciation for just being out in the wild on her own, and would definitely want to do something like get away from it all with Shep, I'd imagine. I think Thessia would have a lot to offer them, even not the cities, basically, for relaxation and such.

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lillitheris wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

Wow, these are simply beautiful! It's marvellous how from different places on the planet you could get such striking views that are impossible to see elsewhere. These are simply stunning! It must have been gorgeous.


Yeah... just wow. I didn't even know there were nightskies like that. :pinched:


There aren’t, for the human eye. ()

While it's true that these images are far more spectacular than what our puny eyes can see, the naked eye view of the milky way in places far removed from light pollution can still be quite breathtaking. Especially if one takes the time to let their eyes completely adjust to the dark, which takes about half an hour to an hour.
I imagine a lot of people living in or near cities are sadly unaware of just how beautiful and awe inspiring a proper view of our night sky really is.

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I really doubt Thessia is a planetwide city - the Asari seem like a race that would value natural sights and wonders, and nature as a whole - I mean, even in the main city, you see they kept a wide ocean or lake.

There are no doubt many parts of the planet that are rural, or outright uninhabited, that an Asari could take a trip to, to enjoy getting away from a city for a while.

I do think Thessia would have lots of cool looking sights to see in the wild, and yes, some of the views you'd have of the night sky would be beautiful, and considering Thessia's placement in the galaxy compared to Earth, very different. If they don't have a moon, even more different.

A friend pointed out to me that when the Protheans protected Thessia from an asteroid, the remaining pieces of that should be orbiting Thessia as satellites - those might be visible from the ground, too.

Yes, I'd like to think that the asari value nature even more than they do their superior technology. It's just that unfortunately we haven't seen or heard how nature on Thessia might look like, unlike Rannoch, for example. I really think that Liara would have loved to get away from the cities while she was young, with Benezia taking her somewhere distant on Thessia, probably a place with ruins for her daughter to explore (after all, she did buy her first history book, so she must have accepted Liara's passion for archeology at the time).

And I had completely forgotten about the Protheans protecting Thessia from an asteroid - I think I have to replay or watch the scene at the temple with Javik again, because a lot of information about the planet and the asari was revealed there, even without counting the hidden Prothean beacon.

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

I really doubt Thessia is a planetwide city - the Asari seem like a race that would value natural sights and wonders, and nature as a whole - I mean, even in the main city, you see they kept a wide ocean or lake.

"The hospitable nitrogen-oxygen atmosphere, temperate-climate and sprawling wilderness of Sanves made the planet a popular tourist destination. Large tracks of untamed forest surrounding the capital drew in millions of sightseers, game hunters, and biologists. The asari, mindful of how rapid expansion has damaged the ecologies of other planets, restricted settlements."

Milky Way / Athena Nebula / Ialessa System / Sanves

It only makes sense they care about their home planet too.

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Tyranniac wrote...

lillitheris wrote...


There aren’t, for the human eye. ()


Oh. *feels dumb*

That sure seems like an enjoyable hobby though.


You shouldn’t feel silly; as frudi points out, you can still get a very nice view in the boonies. It’s just nothing like the luminosity you can get into photos.

If you can, get a nice little telescope and get out into the sticks; you probably want to be at least 50 km from nearest town, the more the better.

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It seems like Thessia is a pretty good planet to live on. Better than Earth. Except for the darkness at night problem.

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Thessia has only 5.5 billion people - a lower population than modern Earth, so definitely no planetwide city.

They appear to like building big towers, so the cities they do have would be densely populated, leaving lots of room for farms and wilderness.

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Han Shot First wrote...
While our moon stabilizes our axis and prevents wild shifts in seasons, and also slows the spin of the Earth so that we have longer days and less violent winds, it is hard to say what effect the lack of a moon would have on Thessia. We don't know enough about Thessia and how it is interacting with its parent star or sister planets. I'd guess though that it has a stable axis, since intelligent life was able to develop there. It would be harder to imagine that happening if the planet had wild shifts in seasons or frequent ice ages.

Before the Asari developed electricity nights on the planets must have been extremely dark without moonlight. With that in mind, perhaps they have better night vision than humans do.

I guess that the lack of moon could affect Thessia differently than Earth. Seeing as how the asari do survive without apparent problems and are said to be the most developed race, not having a moon has seemingly not prevented or hindered them from advancing. It would be interesting to see how Thessia would look like at night-time. Now that the asari have infrastructure and lighting it shouldn't be a problem for them, but it could still be different than night-time on Earth. Another planet in the system could act as somewhat of a substitute as the brightest spot on the sky instead of a moon.

Edit: And I like the fact that the asari might have adapted to darker environment. That could be one more distinct feature of their species. 

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the seasons are affected by the rotational axis of the planet, not the moon. second thing is the moon should be destabilizing the planet (just a tiny bit)
Are there more concept art works of Thessia? Just curious

edit: well, thessia has a high average temperature, so maybe it's similar to illium, the equator is simply too hot to be inhabited

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Are there more concept art works of Thessia? Just curious

Not much else, but I did find a piece of concept art of the temple on Thessia:

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Thinking about it, one thing that would be pretty common on Thessia would be Eezo mining.

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Except if they're just as dumb as humans and depleted half the planet :P

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Except if they're just as dumb as humans and depleted half the planet :P


They don't seem to be, especially considering Thessia doesn't seem to have Earth's overpopulation problem.

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They don't seem to be, especially considering Thessia doesn't seem to have Earth's overpopulation problem.


Well, that's probably just because they've been colonising enough to take off the pressure.  Plus the whole 350 years until you start having kids thing.

But we know that it still has vast Eezo reserves that effect the price galaxy-wide

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Except if they're just as dumb as humans and depleted half the planet :P

I'm quite sure there are strict laws for eezo mining on Thessia. After all it's an important part of asari. I doubt they would sell it in large quantities as there's eezo to get elsewhere and there's no way some large eezo mining corporation could ever come on Thessia to deplete it. Asari after all are the leaders of the galaxy, so to speak

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Hm, I suppose asari are a bit more... long-term orientated. Then again, so should be krogans. Organic life is chaotic, but that's what makes us fun ^^
(why am I in such a good mood now? strange...)

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I took a picture of Thessia.

Warning: it's huge

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aletto wrote...
Then again, so should be krogans. Organic life is chaotic, but that's what makes us fun ^^


The Asari seemed to be like humans in that they had no natural predators that hunted them on their planet, whereas the Krogan had tons of them. As the codex said before the invention of gunpowder the leading cause of death for Krogan was "Eaten by Predators". Sure they could live 1000 years but almost nobody did so there's no reason to take a long view.

Even the primitive Asari probably lived a couple centuries barring some sort of injury or disease outbreak.