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[Akernis]

*Sacasm mode* Well thanks guys, there goes my good mood and fanfic inspiration

Theodoro wrote...

Anyway, I don't like to dwell on Liara hate, regardless of the form it is expressed in.

The perfect medicine is more Liara pictures:

*Snip*

Thank you, much better

Modifié par Akernis, 03 juin 2012 - 03:01 .

[Fox In The Box]

Akernis wrote...

*Sacasm mode* Well thanks guys, there goes my good mood and fanfic inspiration

We aim to please.

[MidnightRaith]

Good thing I already knew about vore. Well, really, it's not that great a thing to begin with.... Anyway, now it's not so shocking when I come across it. I can just wince and get out.

[Theodoro]

Akernis wrote...

*Sacasm mode* Well thanks guys, there goes my good mood and fanfic inspiration

Don't let any of this get to you! Making sense or trying to understand this petty hate is something I've given up on a long time ago. All I know is that Liara is my favorite character, and I'm sure that everybody here knows as well as I do why Liara has managed to gain our love, and there may be different reasons for each one, but all that matters is that we are fans of Liara. Even if everybody else hated her would be inconsequential. Just ignore it and don't let it affect what you know is true and that is the fact that you are a fan of Liara.

[Han Shot First]

This was also the atmosphere for me in LotSB, especially at the end, when Liara is crying. I just couldn't handle myself and I almost cried myself. It's very hard for me to see her cry.
So as I said, there is something sad about Liara in Mass Effect 3, that wasn't there in Mass Effect 1.

While I didn't cry, I had a similar reaction with the 'Name in the Stars' scene. I found the whole thing so sad (though touching) that I had to shut off the Xbox and give Mass Effect 3 a break for awhile. There I was, bummed that two fictional characters' lives were being interrupted by war.

Recently it has become cool on the BSN to bash the writers after the ending debacle, but I think they mostly delivered with ME3 and the 'Name in the Stars' scene is a good example. As much as I dislike the ending, I found it to be the most emotional chapter in the series and was totally engrossed in the story and characters up until the last 10 minutes or so.

Yuqi wrote...

Look what I found huzzah!



What is extra awsome about this is, that the artist's shepards BFF is Liara. It is the first pic I have ever encountered of such a thing.(And broshep will always pwn sheploo ;P )

Art by: stonelions via Tumblr

Awesome fanart. I love that one, especially since Liara looks very feminine in that dress and isn't wearing an N7 hoody. She seems more in character than some other fanart out there.

To me that kind of looks like Sheploo with Liara, except with longer hair. It looks like Sheploo as a civilian.

[Akernis]

Theodoro wrote...

Akernis wrote...

*Sacasm mode* Well thanks guys, there goes my good mood and fanfic inspiration

Don't let any of this get to you! Making sense or trying to understand this petty hate is something I've given up on a long time ago. All I know is that Liara is my favorite character, and I'm sure that everybody here knows as well as I do why Liara has managed to gain our love, and there may be different reasons for each one, but all that matters is that we are fans of Liara. Even if everybody else hated her would be inconsequential. Just ignore it and don't let it affect what you know is true and that is the fact that you are a fan of Liara.

Thanks

[Theodoro]

I really love her in that pose (hence the avatar that I chose) - it's another example of how seemingly without trying she can be captured in a rather striking moment in what is otherwise a normal conversation (this being just prior to her release from Therum) that makes for a very nice picture. I love any kind of variation of this.

Yuqi wrote...

Look what I found huzzah!
*snip*
What is extra awsome about this is, that the artist's shepards BFF is Liara. It is the first pic I have ever encountered of such a thing.(And broshep will always pwn sheploo ;P )

Art by: stonelions via Tumblr

This is nice, but the face doesn't quite look like Liara on this fan art, and the dress she wears appears just a bit too human. Something like the dress that she wears in the cabin scene after LotSB would have suited her better, I think.

Modifié par Theodoro, 03 juin 2012 - 03:40 .

[Aristobulus500]

Han Shot First wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Look what I found huzzah!



What is extra awsome about this is, that the artist's shepards BFF is Liara. It is the first pic I have ever encountered of such a thing.(And broshep will always pwn sheploo ;P )

Art by: stonelions via Tumblr

Awesome fanart. I love that one, especially since Liara looks very feminine in that dress and isn't wearing an N7 hoody. She seems more in character than some other fanart out there.

To me that kind of looks like Sheploo with Liara, except with longer hair. It looks like Sheploo as a civilian.

Those clothes - and that dress - don't look bad on her. The color isn't a very good one though - a yellow sun dress on blue skin? Kindof awkward looking.

Also I feel those clothes are a bit too modern and out of place for the ME setting.

I can see an Asari like Liara taking to a sundress though - it's a style well suited for Asari tastes, it's something light and made for comfort, very well suited for casual wear.

[Theodoro]

On the topic of more asari-like casual clothing for warmer days, I did a lot of digging in DeviantArt for ideas, since I think the one Liara wears in the posted fan art is something that I can easily see a human wearing, as well.

In other words, I've been searching for clothes that can only really fit for asari and their lifestyle. I found a few pieces of fan art which caught my attention as to what I think an asari would wear:

Picture #1
Picture #2
Picture #3
Picture #4
Picture #5

What do you guys think? I personally love the one on Picture #1 (as I do the whole picture), but does it seem like something that would be worn for more official and/or festive occasions, rather than to serve as a casual piece of clothing?

Modifié par Theodoro, 03 juin 2012 - 04:01 .

[Akernis]

Theodoro wrote...

I really love her in that pose (hence the avatar that I chose) - it's another example of how seemingly without trying she can be captured in a rather striking moment in what is otherwise a normal conversation (this being just prior to her release from Therum) that makes for a very nice picture. I love any kind of variation of this.

I assumed as much, that was why I picked them .
And I agree Liara has an amazing ability to appear both striking and elegant in otherwise inconspicuous moments without even trying.

Theodoro wrote...

This is nice, but the face doesn't quite look like Liara on this fan art, and the dress she wears appears just a bit too human. Something like the dress that she wears in the cabin scene after LotSB would have suited her better, I think.

Agreed with both points here.
As well as Atristobulus'. There are many colours that can be flattering and suitable for asari and Liara in particular but yellow is not one of them. 
When Liara at the date scene talked about Benezia "She loved to wear yellow, I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world" I recall thinking that I was glad that she did not follow in her mother's footsteps at the former, but did at the latter.

[Wulfram]

The first looks more specifically Asari, while the others look more generically Mass Effecty

Though I guess you'd expect general Mass Effect fashions to tend to follow the lead of Thessia anyway, so I dunno.

[Theodoro]

Akernis wrote...
When Liara at the date scene talked about Benezia "She loved to wear yellow, I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world" I recall thinking that I was glad that she did not follow in her mother's footsteps at the former, but did at the latter.

I like to think that most asari dresses are not strictly one color, or even not ones with a dominant one, but a mixture of different colors instead, mostly two of them. Aria's dress is white and pink, Liara's is purple and red, and the one she wore back on Therum was green and white - at least for the more casual ones. That's why I think that if yellow is used with another color it might not look as odd on the blue skin as a dress that is solely in yellow.

Wulfram wrote...

The first looks more specifically Asari, while the others look more generically Mass Effecty

Though I guess you'd expect general Mass Effect fashions to tend to follow the lead of Thessia anyway, so I dunno.

I dislike the fact that human women and asari seem to share the same fashion. I would have preferred it if they were at least a little more distinct and not that one and the same piece of clothing was slapped on hundreds of NPCs regardless of whether they were human or asari. So, yes, I like your suggestion that this fashion originated from Thessia.

Modifié par Theodoro, 03 juin 2012 - 04:21 .

[Akernis]

Theodoro wrote...

On the topic of more asari-like casual clothing for warmer days, I did a lot of digging in DeviantArt for ideas, since I think the one Liara wears in the posted fan art is something that I can easily see a human wearing, as well.

In other words, I've been searching for clothes that can only really fit for asari and their lifestyle. I found a few pieces of fan art which caught my attention as to what I think an asari would wear:

Picture #1
Picture #2
Picture #3
Picture #4
Picture #5

What do you guys think? I personally love the one on Picture #1 (as I do the whole picture), but does it seem like something that would be worn for more official and/or festive occasions, rather than to serve as a casual piece of clothing?

The first is the best IMO and I could easily see it as casual clothing, perhaps without the jewelry but otherwise.

I do not really like the second for some odd reason and the fifth looks more like an wedding or purely ornamental dress (of course this is likely my western human mentality speaking but still).

The third and the fourth I could also quite easily accept though I think it would be less "Thessian" and more asari style in general, probably worn more by asari beyond Thessia, for example on Ilium and similar places.

Theodoro wrote...

Akernis wrote...
When Liara at the date scene talked about Benezia "She loved to wear yellow, I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world" I recall thinking that I was glad that she did not follow in her mother's footsteps at the former, but did at the latter.

I like to think that most asari dresses are not strictly one color, or even not ones with a dominant one, but a mixture of different colors instead, mostly two of them. Aria's dress is white and pink, Liara's is purple and red, and the one she wore back on Therum was green and white - at least for the more casual ones. That's why I think that if yellow is used with another color it might not look as odd on the blue skin as a dress that is solely in yellow.

True enough, I hadn't thought about that, there was one asari, I think it was on Noveria that wore an nearly exclusively yellow dress and the effect was less than appealing but it might look okay if it was more naturally blending with another colour.

Theodoro wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

The first looks more specifically Asari, while the others look more generically Mass Effecty

Though I guess you'd expect general Mass Effect fashions to tend to follow the lead of Thessia anyway, so I dunno.

I dislike the fact that human women and asari seem to share the same fashion. I would have preferred it if they were at least a little more distinct and not that one and the same piece of clothing was slapped on hundreds of NPCs regardless of whether they were human or asari. So, yes, I like your suggestion that this fashion originated from Thessia.

Agreed, there was on asari whose casual clothing I really liked, I can't remember her name but she the one in the second game who welcomed you to to Nos Astra and told Shepard where to find Liara. 

Modifié par Akernis, 03 juin 2012 - 04:31 .

[Han Shot First]

Theodoro wrote...

On the topic of more asari-like casual clothing for warmer days, I did a lot of digging in DeviantArt for ideas, since I think the one Liara wears in the posted fan art is something that I can easily see a human wearing, as well.

In other words, I've been searching for clothes that can only really fit for asari and their lifestyle. I found a few pieces of fan art which caught my attention as to what I think an asari would wear:

Picture #1
Picture #2
Picture #3
Picture #4
Picture #5

What do you guys think? I personally love the one on Picture #1 (as I do the whole picture), but does it seem like something that would be worn for more official and/or festive occasions, rather than to serve as a casual piece of clothing?

I love both 1 and 5, and can picture Liara wearing them, though they both seem like something that would be worn on formal occasions. Since both have a less futuristic vibe to them, perhaps they are more traditional Asari formal wear, sort of like how modern Japanese may still wear a kimono on special occasions?

I also like 2 because it has a Mass Effect vibe to it while still looking original.

Those clothes - and that dress - don't look bad on her. The color isn't a very good one though - a yellow sun dress on blue skin? Kindof awkward looking.
Also I feel those clothes are a bit too modern and out of place for the ME setting.

I agree about the color, though I think that is mostly the shade used. I think she could potentially look good in a different shade.

You are right that the clothes seem too modern (21st Century), though I still like it for not featuring a single N7 hoody.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 03 juin 2012 - 04:29 .

[Theodoro]

Akernis wrote...
Agreed, there was on asari whose casual clothing I really liked, I can't remember her name but she the one in the second game who welcomed you to to Nos Astra and told Shepard where to find Liara. 

Yep, here she is.
I like the clothing, as well, and it looks very casual. However, some asari might not be as inclined to show that much of their midriff. That said, it's still something different than what we usually see in Mass Effect, and it could be one of the many variations of casual clothing that is more typical of the asari.

Han Shot First wrote...
I love both 1 and 5, and can picture Liara wearing them, though they both seem like something that would be worn on formal occasions. Since both have a less futuristic vibe to them, perhaps they are more traditional Asari formal wear, sort of like how modern Japanese may still wear a kimono on special occasions?

Come to think of it, maybe asari just prefer to wear more formal clothing most of the time, or that they don't consider it as such like we do? Maybe a part of their culture is to always look respectable, even when among friends and family.

Modifié par Theodoro, 03 juin 2012 - 04:39 .

[TheDonk95]

Han Shot First wrote...

This was also the atmosphere for me in LotSB, especially at the end, when Liara is crying. I just couldn't handle myself and I almost cried myself. It's very hard for me to see her cry.
So as I said, there is something sad about Liara in Mass Effect 3, that wasn't there in Mass Effect 1.

While I didn't cry, I had a similar reaction with the 'Name in the Stars' scene. I found the whole thing so sad (though touching) that I had to shut off the Xbox and give Mass Effect 3 a break for awhile. There I was, bummed that two fictional characters' lives were being interrupted by war.

Recently it has become cool on the BSN to bash the writers after the ending debacle, but I think they mostly delivered with ME3 and the 'Name in the Stars' scene is a good example. As much as I dislike the ending, I found it to be the most emotional chapter in the series and was totally engrossed in the story and characters up until the last 10 minutes or so.


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I agree. The 'Name in the stars' scene was really hard for me. I think I already talked about it, but as I said, just watching Liara talking about Shepard, and how great soldier he is, and with Shepard sitting there and smiling and her, with the music in the background, I could really feel the sadness that was there in the air. There was a strange atmosphere. Sadness mixed with love. That's something I think only Mass Effect can do, and the way it can affect people is amazing. I must say that this scene was difficult for me. Not like the romance scene though. That scene makes me tear up almost everytime I watch it. (I think I talked about my emotions regarding that scene enough).

Modifié par TheDonk95, 03 juin 2012 - 04:50 .

[Fox In The Box]

I... actually think she looks rather nice in the yellow dress. Oh, well. The outfits from those pictures are great, though. Especially 1 and 2.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 03 juin 2012 - 05:05 .

[Tyranniac]

Han Shot First wrote...

Recently it has become cool on the BSN to bash the writers after the ending debacle, but I think they mostly delivered with ME3 and the 'Name in the Stars' scene is a good example. As much as I dislike the ending, I found it to be the most emotional chapter in the series and was totally engrossed in the story and characters up until the last 10 minutes or so.

Nice to hear. It's important we don't forget this. 

[TheDonk95]

Theodoro wrote...

On the topic of more asari-like casual clothing for warmer days, I did a lot of digging in DeviantArt for ideas, since I think the one Liara wears in the posted fan art is something that I can easily see a human wearing, as well.

In other words, I've been searching for clothes that can only really fit for asari and their lifestyle. I found a few pieces of fan art which caught my attention as to what I think an asari would wear:

Picture #1
Picture #2
Picture #3
Picture #4
Picture #5

What do you guys think? I personally love the one on Picture #1 (as I do the whole picture), but does it seem like something that would be worn for more official and/or festive occasions, rather than to serve as a casual piece of clothing?

Wow. Those dresses look amazing on her. I hope there would have been such a casual dress for Liara in ME3 because she looks so nice like this. The 3rd and 4th ones really look like the scientist dress from ME1.

[Han Shot First]

TheDonk95 wrote...


I agree. The 'Name in the stars' scene was really hard for me. I think I already talked about it, but as I said, just watching Liara talking about Shepard, and how great soldier he is, and with Shepard sitting there and smiling and her, with the music in the background, I could really feel the sadness that was there in the air. There was a strange atmosphere. Sadness mixed with love. That's something I think only Mass Effect can do, and the way it can affect people is amazing. I must say that this scene was difficult for me. Not like the romance scene though. That scene makes me tear up almost everytime I watch it. (I think I talked about my emotions regarding that scene enough).

The 'Name in the Stars' scene may be my favorite in the entire series.

Liara's Farewell gift was close though. I also liked how in the farewell she seemed to have matured. There aren't any tears, just "I love you. Now, lets do what needs to be done."

Considering how devastated Liara was after Shepard was killed when the SR1 was destroyed, if that farewell had happened at some point prior to ME2 I don't know that Liara would have been able to hold back the tears. I don't want to say that the period of grief she went through before hardened her, only that it led to acceptance and her being better able to manage it.

Come to think of it, maybe asari just prefer to wear more formal clothing most of the time, or that they don't consider it as such like we do? Maybe a part of their culture is to always look respectable, even when among friends and family.

Either way, I imagine Liara would be quite fashionable when not busy digging in ruins or trying to save the galaxy.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 03 juin 2012 - 05:02 .

[TheDonk95]

The 'Name in the Stars' scene may be my favorite in the entire series.

Liara's Farewell gift was close though. I also liked how in the farewell she seemed to have matured. There aren't any tears, just "I love you. Now, lets do what needs to be done."

Considering how devastated Liara was after Shepard was killed when the SR1 was destroyed, if that farewell had happened at some point prior to ME2 I don't know that Liara would have been able to hold back the tears. I don't want to say that the period of grief she went through before hardened her, only that it led to acceptance and her being better able to manage it.

Yeah, that scene also made me cry (yeah I'm a pretty emotional guy), you pointed out here excatly what I think about her in that part of the game. You can see that she has become more of a woman than she was before. You can see how she is more mature. She understand she needs to be strong because these are very dark times and Shepard and the galaxy needs her at her best to help the wounded and assist in battle. And if she was able to hold back her tears when she obviously know that if he won't take her with him as a squad member, this is the last time that she sees him, it means that she is really alot stronger.

Modifié par TheDonk95, 03 juin 2012 - 05:09 .

[TrulyInnovative]

Arcataye wrote...

Oh and if someone hasn't yet read Wingedmoggy's comics, here is the gallery for all of them.

Thanks for the link, there was some great stuff there!

[Theodoro]

The time capsule is easily the most beautiful scene with Liara. While one of the functions of the device is to preserve the memory of Shepard and it seems to be the main topic of the scene, I believe that it was written mostly for Liara. Her care, consideration and devotion that compelled her to work on the time capsule for so long and the love with which she does it and the excitement of the prospect of showing it to Shepard really speaks more than words can about what kind of a person she is. If there is one scene that really reaffirms why I think Liara is so incredible, it's this one. It was written beautifully. My only gripe is that it should have been a tad different if Liara is Shepard's love interest, specifically the end of the scene when they talk about being good friends. But I can overlook that.

Modifié par Theodoro, 03 juin 2012 - 05:17 .

[TheDonk95]

@Theodoro, yeah there were alot of scenes in ME3 that even though you romanced her in all games and stayed loyal to her, she still calls you her "friend" =/

[Fox In The Box]

I have heard many people say that their beloved is also their best friend. Maybe Liara's sentiment is something similar? Or maybe it's a writing error.