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I think that should have appeared in the dream sequences. I mourned it more than Kaidan.

Now that's mean! Then the Mako should have haunted your Shepard in every dream sequence, make you drive through all those spiky mountains again for hours at a time! Image IPB

Image IPB that would have been a nightmare worhty of the name indeed.

Ajosraa wrote...
I think It would have been a lot better if it was like the voice of some reapers in Shepard's head, taunting him as soon as he gets near the kid. For example the second dream sequence was kinda going in that direction, with the spotlight then reaper sound. And instead of showing the kid catching on fire from nuthing at all, it should have showed something more with a difinitive cause and effect. Like a reaper shoots him, or steps on him, and then Shepard goes "Nooo!", then wakes up.

Or he could just barely save the kid, then have some reaper smash him last second. I think that would have illicited more guilty feelings. Maybe have the kid have the face/s of other people you couldent save, or at least have more of those people represented.

I think that I would have cheered for the Reaper if that happened... I know, I am an evil and terrible person Image IPB.

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^nah, just honest;P

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Talk about a plot point that wasn't really explored.


That's putting it mildly. It's not explored for the character and it's not even explored how Cerberus did it or what they did. The Lazarus project according to the writers is an actual plausible explanation for Shepard changing classes, unlike ME3 which is just a mechanic. What exactly Cerberus did remains a mystery though it's not Reaper tech, they at least ruled that and cloning out.

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adneate wrote...

TrulyInnovative wrote...
Talk about a plot point that wasn't really explored.


That's putting it mildly. It's not explored for the character and it's not even explored how Cerberus did it or what they did. The Lazarus project according to the writers is an actual plausible explanation for Shepard changing classes, unlike ME3 which is just a mechanic. What exactly Cerberus did remains a mystery though it's not Reaper tech, they at least ruled that and cloning out.


I don't think they need to explain it, but it would have been nice if they explored the effects on Shepard better.

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Too bad, I think they could have worked a lot of stuff into the story if Shepard was ressurected with Reaper tech. And what else besides reaper tech could do that? lousy non used point. So much philosophical potential wasted. For the longest time I assumed Cerberus did something like that. But apparently they just rezzed me normally...somehow..

But then that means i would deffinately be fried in the Destroy ending...So maybe its good we did not;P

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Akernis wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
I think that should have appeared in the dream sequences. I mourned it more than Kaidan.

Now that's mean! Then the Mako should have haunted your Shepard in every dream sequence, make you drive through all those spiky mountains again for hours at a time! Image IPB

Image IPB that would have been a nightmare worhty of the name indeed.

Ajosraa wrote...
I think It would have been a lot better if it was like the voice of some reapers in Shepard's head, taunting him as soon as he gets near the kid. For example the second dream sequence was kinda going in that direction, with the spotlight then reaper sound. And instead of showing the kid catching on fire from nuthing at all, it should have showed something more with a difinitive cause and effect. Like a reaper shoots him, or steps on him, and then Shepard goes "Nooo!", then wakes up.

Or he could just barely save the kid, then have some reaper smash him last second. I think that would have illicited more guilty feelings. Maybe have the kid have the face/s of other people you couldent save, or at least have more of those people represented.

I think that I would have cheered for the Reaper if that happened... I know, I am an evil and terrible person Image IPB.


It's ok Akernis I'm with you on the reaper smash thing,  as for the Mako.... well I love it Cortez can keep his stupid hammerhead.:D

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Ajosraa wrote...

Too bad, I think they could have worked a lot of stuff into the story if Shepard was ressurected with Reaper tech. And what else besides reaper tech could do that? lousy non used point. So much philosophical potential wasted. For the longest time I assumed Cerberus did something like that. But apparently they just rezzed me normally...somehow..

I always assumed that Reaper-tech was involved, not that Shepard actualy had Reaper tech in him/her but that the techology had be used or Prothean-tech for that matter, I just don't see conventional science doing it.

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But then that means i would deffinately be fried in the Destroy ending...So maybe its good we did not;P

Phhft we would have been fried anyway, the damn thing even says so itself.
Quite a bit does not make sense after Harbinger and nothing makes sense after TIM.
Lets just pretend the last ten-twenty minuttes didn't happen and anything said and done post TIM (or even Harbinger) just isn't there and instead Crucible goes *bang*, then lots of dead Reaper and Shepard & Liara happy ever after.

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as for the Mako.... well I love it Cortez can keep his stupid hammerhead.Image IPB

I didn't really have a particular attachment or disdain to either vehicle. I disliked the tarrain in the first game but not the mako, Kaelis was actually a fairly good driver. Likewise with the Hammerhead, it was a fine vehicle but nothing more than that.

But I still crown the taxi as the best vehicle of all time, if for nothing else then the great chase and the hilarious conversation taking place inside. But next time I want weapons installed Image IPB.

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I don't think they need to explain it, but it would have been nice if they explored the effects on Shepard better.


The two are linked though the physical alteration has an effect on the character, if you woke up in a hospital tomorrow and I told you it's been years since you were "alive" and now you can crush stainless steel bars with your barehands, run 50 km/h without getting tired and would have a 500 year lifespan that would have a huge impact on you.

The dying thing isn't something anyone can wrap their head around, it's just there. Even the cut conversation with Ashley about it didn't really go anywhere because there's no place for it to go, unless you want to inject God and religion into Mass Effect's world. The whole trans-human stuff can go lot's of places, mainly because if you radically alter someone like that it changes what they are on a fundamental level. They can no longer identify as human since they no longer live like them. Which could have been great to have Shepard, this supposed symbol of humanity be altered to the point of not being "human".

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Akernis wrote...
Lets just pretend the last ten-twenty minuttes didn't happen and anything said and done post TIM (or even Harbinger) just isn't there and instead Crucible goes *bang*, then lots of dead Reaper and Shepard & Liara happy ever after.

It's amazing how such an ending, so, so much simpler, would have worked so much better than what we have. I would have been completely fine without a big 'twist' in the end. And with how BioWare were pressed for time to complete the game, they should have gone for this route instead instead of trying to come up with a twist too hard and ended up ruining the universe in the end.

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Akernis wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...
But then that means i would deffinately be fried in the Destroy ending...So maybe its good we did not;P

Phhft we would have been fried anyway, the damn thing even says so itself.

I've thought about the destroy ending and about how the hell does the Crucible seperate between Reaper tech and "normal" tech.
Are Shepard's implants reaper tech? I don't think they are. But anyways, the kid says that even Shepard is partly synthetic because of the implants. But does Shepard's implants think for theirselves? Does his implants have a soul? No. So that means that the Crucible destroys all tech, not just Reaper.
Also that the Normandy breaks down and the Relays explode support that. And the Stargazer scene being 10,000 years after the game and they'll get to the stars "...one day, my sweet.". They seem to have knowledge of all the stars and the worlds out there in the galaxy but they haven't advanced enough in those ten thousand years? Talk about slow!
My brain hurts thinking about all of that, so weird. :unsure:


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Much better :)

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Don't try to make any sense out of the ending, Arcataye - I think we'll all go crazy if we try to explain the minefield of plot holes that it left us to "speculate" about.

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We can all agree that Bioware seriously f*cked up the ending... Don't try to find any kind of sense after the space elevator part (and even before)..

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TheDonk95 wrote...

We can all agree that Bioware seriously f*cked up the ending... Don't try to find any kind of sense after the space elevator part (and even before)..


Eh, the ending was pretty bad, but it's salvageable if Bioware puts in a little work. IMO most of ME3 was incredibly well done.

I just want a little more Liara in the EC, is all. ^_^

Modifié par fluffywalrus, 05 juin 2012 - 07:57 .


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fluffywalrus wrote...

TheDonk95 wrote...

We can all agree that Bioware seriously f*cked up the ending... Don't try to find any kind of sense after the space elevator part (and even before)..


Eh, the ending was pretty bad, but it's salvageable if Bioware puts in a little work. IMO most of ME3 was incredibly well done.

I just want a little more Liara in the EC, is all. ^_^


I also think that Bioware did an absolutley amazing job on 85% of the game. 10% is London and Vancouver, and 5% is 'minor' things like the journal...
And I also hope that there will be more blue in the EC, although I don't get my hopes too high, since Bioware and the other fans thinks that there has been enought of Liara in ME3 (and we all know you can never get enought of her) :)

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TrulyInnovative wrote...

Speaking of PTSD, it's amazing how together Shepard is in the game considering (s)he was, well, resurrected. Talk about a plot point that wasn't really explored.


…Well, the thing is, the whole suffocating thing surely sucked, but apart from that she just woke up in a hospital later. Shepard could conceivably have the least problems with the resurrection out of the entire crew.

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TrulyInnovative wrote...

http://dl.dropbox.co...t3 Liara 05.jpg


Holy smokes. What a genuinely amazing screenshot.

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Akernis wrote...

*snip*

moreeman06 wrote...
as for the Mako.... well I love it Cortez can keep his stupid hammerhead.Image IPB

I didn't really have a particular attachment or disdain to either vehicle. I disliked the tarrain in the first game but not the mako, Kaelis was actually a fairly good driver. Likewise with the Hammerhead, it was a fine vehicle but nothing more than that.

But I still crown the taxi as the best vehicle of all time, if for nothing else then the great chase and the hilarious conversation taking place inside. But next time I want weapons installed Image IPB.


I just saw this, and hey you have a fare meter that's weapons enough 

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lillitheris wrote...

TrulyInnovative wrote...

Speaking of PTSD, it's amazing how together Shepard is in the game considering (s)he was, well, resurrected. Talk about a plot point that wasn't really explored.


…Well, the thing is, the whole suffocating thing surely sucked, but apart from that she just woke up in a hospital later. Shepard could conceivably have the least problems with the resurrection out of the entire crew.


The entire intro level of ME2 is just hilarious to me. Shepard's just been put back together from a rather horrifying death alone in space, and the first thing she wakes up to is an entire space station filled with robots trying to kill her. Oh, and when she does find someone to help her,  they turn out to be working for those friendly neighbourhood terrorists responsible for Akuze. Poor girl just can't catch a break.

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moreeman06 wrote...

Akernis wrote...
But I still crown the taxi as the best vehicle of all time, if for nothing else then the great chase and the hilarious conversation taking place inside. But next time I want weapons installed Image IPB.


I just saw this, and hey you have a fare meter that's weapons enough 

But, but... ahhh you never let me have any fun Image IPB... I wanted a Thanix cannon mounted on that tiny little vehicle Image IPB, that would teach anyone to cut in front of Shepard when he is driving with Liara Image IPB

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TrulyInnovative wrote...

Speaking of PTSD, it's amazing how together Shepard is in the game considering (s)he was, well, resurrected. Talk about a plot point that wasn't really explored.


Honestly, they could have had counseling sessions with Kelly Chambers, a favorite of mine despite the unwarranted hate she gets from the fanbase, to help deal with that.  However, I think they either didn't plan that at all or any proposed content got cut.

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

TrulyInnovative wrote...

Speaking of PTSD, it's amazing how together Shepard is in the game considering (s)he was, well, resurrected. Talk about a plot point that wasn't really explored.


Honestly, they could have had counseling sessions with Kelly Chambers, a favorite of mine despite the unwarranted hate she gets from the fanbase, to help deal with that.  However, I think they either didn't plan that at all or any proposed content got cut.


That... is very true. Why didn't they do that?!

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Akernis wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

Akernis wrote...
But I still crown the taxi as the best vehicle of all time, if for nothing else then the great chase and the hilarious conversation taking place inside. But next time I want weapons installed Image IPB.


I just saw this, and hey you have a fare meter that's weapons enough 

But, but... ahhh you never let me have any fun Image IPB... I wanted a Thanix cannon mounted on that tiny little vehicle Image IPB, that would teach anyone to cut in front of Shepard when he is driving with Liara Image IPB


haha that would teach them although I'm not sure Liara would even get into the taxi with that on it, atleast not while Shepard's driving.  maybe she could drive and we can give Shepard one of those little playschool steering wheels that you give toddlers to play with on long trips

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^ Hahaha that is genius... I can imagine Liara driving with full adrenaline while Shepard is next to her with a toy steering wheel going: 'VROOM VROOM BEEP BEEP'..

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TheDonk95 wrote...

^ Hahaha that is genius... I can imagine Liara driving with full adrenaline while Shepard is next to her with a toy steering wheel going: 'VROOM VROOM BEEP BEEP'..


Liara:  Shepard calm down we won't be there for a few hours
Shepard:  Faster, Faster.  *honks toy horn*  Beep Beep

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moreeman06 wrote...
haha that would teach them although I'm not sure Liara would even get into the taxi with that on it, atleast not while Shepard's driving.  maybe she could drive and we can give Shepard one of those little playschool steering wheels that you give toddlers to play with on long trips

What, are you saying that Shepard is a bad driver? there is nothing wrong with Shepard's driving, he can both drive and fire at the same time, that is more than most can say Image IPB

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Okay my Shepard does not drive that bad... at least not always... he is just a very enthusiastic and alternatively smooth driver...

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