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[PMC65]

Not into virgins so when she started talking about never "melding" with anyone else I rolled my eyes and thought ... Yep, Kaidan you are my man.

So when the virgin option came up, I picked it and loved how she almost laughs at Shepard and says something about it not working like that for asari. Thank Bacchus! If Bioware had locked her in and had her say, "Oh, yes Commander ... I am a virgin ... you will be my first in everything! Weeeeeeee!" EW Shepard would have walked out and hooked up with Kaidan.

[Akernis]

PMC65 wrote...
So when the virgin option came up, I picked it and loved how she almost laughs at Shepard and says something about it not working like that for asari.

Can you remember what line and when that is? 
The only thing about that subject I can remember she says is that she has never really thought it up untill then. 

[shepard1038]

Off Topic: I was playing and i did what you said and i waited and went to the Apollo Cafe and Liara's
Father appeared so thanks.

[shepard1038]

PMC65 wrote...

Not into virgins so when she started talking about never "melding" with anyone else I rolled my eyes and thought ... Yep, Kaidan you are my man.

So when the virgin option came up, I picked it and loved how she almost laughs at Shepard and says something about it not working like that for asari. Thank Bacchus! If Bioware had locked her in and had her say, "Oh, yes Commander ... I am a virgin ... you will be my first in everything! Weeeeeeee!" EW Shepard would have walked out and hooked up with Kaidan.

When did she says that? Can you say the line?

[CrimsonN7]

PMC65 wrote...

Not into virgins so when she started talking about never "melding" with anyone else I rolled my eyes and thought ... Yep, Kaidan you are my man.

So when the virgin option came up, I picked it and loved how she almost laughs at Shepard and says something about it not working like that for asari. Thank Bacchus! If Bioware had locked her in and had her say, "Oh, yes Commander ... I am a virgin ... you will be my first in everything! Weeeeeeee!" EW Shepard would have walked out and hooked up with Kaidan.

No love for virgins eh, everybody's gotta lose it sometime:D Kidding, but in all seriousness I agree with Aristo, Liara is relatively young in Asari terms, it is not hard to imagine that she was a virgin when Shep meet her. The way she described the union as a truly life altering experience rather than just sex, Liara wasn't going to give up something so personal to just anybody. 

I dunno I found it rather endearing how she stumbled round the fact that she never joined with anyone before. Even if Shepard could detach himself/herself from the emotions that come with something as intimate as sex, if Shepard just approached it as a way to relieve tension I couldn't picture Liara going into a union without any strong emotional connection, sex without love for her wouldn't work. Perhaps it is easier to mask these issues in a non asari union to an extent, but when joined it would be very difficult  to hid these feelings and thoughts. I also liked how forward she became when she went to Shep's cabin before Ilos, so much for being shy eh:wub: Shepard and Liara really just fit perfectly as a couple in my opinion compared to the other love interests, I also think it's really sweet that Shepard is Liara's first, and popping her cherry to the Saviour of the Citadel, that's a good first, Liara choose well, smart girl:P

@PMC65, Kaidan, girl please, good thing you saw the light, how could you say no to that face, when she's knocking down your door for some alone time? Jk

[DevilBeast]

Han Shot First wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

How do you think the Liara romance stacks up againts other characters romances and what you didn't
like about it and what did you like?(note that i didn't ask this question with the intent of flaming other
characters or encourage it i just want to know what you think)

Overall I think she's got the best written romance arc in the series.

That isn't to say it isn't without flaws however, just that I think it is the best of the bunch. I didn't like that in ME3 that Liara still refers to Shepard as a friend, though I can come up with head canon to explain it. I

I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I also wasn't a big fan of the reveal in Mass Effect 1 that Liara is a virgin. Just about every Bioware RPG that has characters that are romanceable by the protagonist, has at least one that is shy and virginal. Mass Effect has two. Meh...I'd rather Bioware  gave characters who are supposed to be adult women life experiences that most adult women have.

Well, according to Liara she´s barely an adult by asari standards.

[moreeman06]

PMC65 wrote...

Not into virgins so when she started talking about never "melding" with anyone else I rolled my eyes and thought ... Yep, Kaidan you are my man.

So when the virgin option came up, I picked it and loved how she almost laughs at Shepard and says something about it not working like that for asari. Thank Bacchus! If Bioware had locked her in and had her say, "Oh, yes Commander ... I am a virgin ... you will be my first in everything! Weeeeeeee!" EW Shepard would have walked out and hooked up with Kaidan.

Thank Bacchus,  I don't think i've heard that one...  as for Liara being a virgin, i think we have another thing for us to disagree on PMC *queue foreboding music*  just kidding I was fine with viewing Liara as not being a virgin although i don't think she's had more than one partner other than shep her personality just doesn't lend myself to believe that she got around much. Plus as long i was the first to touch that beautiful mind of hers I'm good:)

CrazyGreggy wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...
sorry i normally put full fleshed out thoughts in italics eg.) Tiberius thought She has the most beautiful eyes, in order to differentiate from actual spoken dialogue.  thoughts that weren't fully formed act more like description and don't get any special treatment like that.  Its just how i learned from reading and some creative writing teachers

I learned that the hard way the first time I posted a fic from openoffice to DA, all the formatting went haywire and the italics got lost. I spend a long time checking formatting now, tagging bold/underlined/italics etc. Getting a four-parter up there was hellish, was such a relief that the latest fluff piece only took about 5 minutes to check and upload [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

I enjoyed your latest, my own bugbear (sorry) was the punctuation. Commas migrating from where they should be to where they shouldn't, here and there. Nice to see the start for Tib and Liara, I really should do my own version of Therum for Kira [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

 

Thanks I'm glad you liked it,  and sorry about the comma's it's something I've never been that good at and even though i've gotten better it's still my writing nemesis

[Han Shot First]

DevilBeast wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

How do you think the Liara romance stacks up againts other characters romances and what you didn't
like about it and what did you like?(note that i didn't ask this question with the intent of flaming other
characters or encourage it i just want to know what you think)

Overall I think she's got the best written romance arc in the series.

That isn't to say it isn't without flaws however, just that I think it is the best of the bunch. I didn't like that in ME3 that Liara still refers to Shepard as a friend, though I can come up with head canon to explain it. I

I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I also wasn't a big fan of the reveal in Mass Effect 1 that Liara is a virgin. Just about every Bioware RPG that has characters that are romanceable by the protagonist, has at least one that is shy and virginal. Mass Effect has two. Meh...I'd rather Bioware  gave characters who are supposed to be adult women life experiences that most adult women have.

Well, according to Liara she´s barely an adult by asari standards.

Asari seem to reach adulthood somewhere between about 40 and 60 years old. We aren't told in game when exactly an Asari is legally considered an adult, but we can guess that it is somewhere between those years since Morinth ran away from home in her 40s, and the girl looking to join Eclipse on Illium says something about being 60 years old and finally out from under her mother's roof. Also of course we know that Liara worked as an archaeologist for 50 years prior to Mass Effect 1, when she was 106. That would make Liara 56 at the time she first got started in her career.

So while she is still very young adult by Asari standards she isn't quite as young as Tali, who was still a teenager in Mass Effect 1. While it is a bit hard to compare the Asari life stages to human ones, I think 106 in Asari years seem to be roughly equivalent to a human in their early to mid twenties. She certainly wasn't too young to have had prior partners, so lack of them would then have to be due to either to a conscious choice on her part, or circumstances working against her.

While I wasn't a big fan of the virgin reveal, I do think it is plausible at least for the reasons Aristobulus stated.
 
Also while I like the more 'womanly' Liara of LotSB and ME3 than the more girlish version in Mass Effect 1 (to be clear, I'm talking the whole picture here and not just sexual experience), I do wish Liara had some more dialogue about her past. Did she date other Asari while at university, but break it off before it got too serious for fear of being in a relationship that could potentially produce a child that would face the same ridicule as she did, for being a pureblood? Or did the stigma of her own pureblood background make her a poor prospect as far as her classmates were concerned? I can see ether one serving to prevent or submarine relationships before they got very far.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 08 juin 2012 - 04:24 .

[Yuqi]

doozer12 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

BF went to E3, and the Wii U version is confirmed to be........lame.

AND FOR TEAM RENEGADE!!

Ew.  Double ew.  and left click support for renegade... *insert lame bro fist gif here because I cant find my screenshots*

Woot Go Team Renegade.





@

Crimson N7

I agree Shepard is hawt with those scars!  And you're right , Paragons don't get some of the best lines in the Game.

Liara: It's just difficult seeing you get shot at out there..(Renegade exclusive line )

Modifié par Yuqi, 08 juin 2012 - 04:40 .

[Aristobulus500]

I would have loved it if you got to learn more Liara's past, especially her time in college and when she was just starting as an archaeologist.

Again, this all comes back to what a missed opportunity Thessia was - it just - we could've gotten to explore places from her past, there. Explored the college she went to, and gotten scenes/dialogue where she talked about it, especially for an LI. There really was an opportunity!

Ugh.

[shepard1038]

@Yuqi
Well but paragons are more heroic.

[Han Shot First]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I would have loved it if you got to learn more Liara's past, especially her time in college and when she was just starting as an archaeologist.

Again, this all comes back to what a missed opportunity Thessia was - it just - we could've gotten to explore places from her past, there. Explored the college she went to, and gotten scenes/dialogue where she talked about it, especially for an LI. There really was an opportunity!

Ugh.

One of the cities on Thessia should have been a visitable hub early in the game, especially since in ME3 there is only one visitible hub (The Citadel) whereas ME2 had Omega, Illium, and a smaller version of the Citadel. The player would spent a good portion of the game running missions out of there (just like Omega or Illium in ME2) and hopefully gettng attached to the setting and the characters who populate it, only to come back later as the Reapers are destroying it all.

It would have given the Priority: Thessia mission more emotional impact.

[MidnightRaith]

Ding! Finally hit level 60 in ME1! I'm soooo close to beating it so I can move to ME2....

[Han Shot First]

MidnightRaith wrote...

Ding! Finally hit level 60 in ME1! I'm soooo close to beating it so I can move to ME2....

Congrats!

Just out of curiosity are you relatively new to Mass Effect 1, or revisiting an old game?

[Yuqi]

shepard1038 wrote...

@Yuqi
Well but paragons are more heroic.

Bleh, and  they're also more idiotic.I find it painfully difficult to go through a pansy-paragon playthrough..

[Theodoro]

I actually think that in Liara's case, her being a virgin only makes her romance with Shepard even more special.

Don't forget that most asari don't think of sex as other races do. She tells you the reason why that is so. For them, that is something special that changes their lives, and the reason for that is their ability to join with their partners. And it's not like Liara's wanted to do that all her life. She says that she hasn't even thought about it before meeting Shepard. He/she's the first person that sparks that interest and desire in her. As I said, that makes the romance arc even more special, and puts an emphasis on the importance of asari joining and how it's not something done lightly as opposed to casual sex.

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I would have loved it if you got to learn more Liara's past, especially her time in college and when she was just starting as an archaeologist.

Again, this all comes back to what a missed opportunity Thessia was - it just - we could've gotten to explore places from her past, there. Explored the college she went to, and gotten scenes/dialogue where she talked about it, especially for an LI. There really was an opportunity!

Ugh.

Agreed there. I also wanted to learn more about the time she spent with Benezia and what kind of mother she was to her. We do get a bit of information about that, but it's something that I wish was explored further.

Modifié par Theodoro, 08 juin 2012 - 05:27 .

[Ajosraa]

About the whole paragon/renegade thing. Id have to define myself as a Paragade. I pick most of the Paragon choises because Im trying to play a mature leader of a team, am a bit altruistic and want to help people, and is a nice person most of the time. But sometimes some things just make my Shepard snap, and he would pick the renegade line. For example I love the line with Liara when first discussing her father, "I never get to tell you anything", and I also think punching Admiral Garrell to be appropriate.

And Yuqi stop making fun of my Paragon side, were not all panzies;P

Your hurting my feelings


Humm..I found this comic and I think its pretty funny, If not a little creepy in the last panels;P But that is part of its charm I suppose.

http://th08.devianta...ile-d4uy4o8.jpg

Modifié par Ajosraa, 08 juin 2012 - 05:37 .

[moreeman06]

Ajosraa wrote...

About the whole paragon/renegade thing. Id have to define myself as a Paragade. I pick most of the Paragon choises because Im trying to play a mature leader of a team, am a bit altruistic and want to help people, and is a nice person most of the time. But sometimes some things just make my Shepard snap, and he would pick the renegade line. For example I love the line with Liara when first discussing her father, "I never get to tell you anything", and I also think punching Admiral Garrell to be appropriate.

And Yuqi stop making fun of my Paragon side, were not all panzies;P

Your hurting my feelings


Humm..I found this comic and I think its pretty funny, If not a little creepy in the last panels;P But that is part of its charm I suppose.

http://th08.devianta...ile-d4uy4o8.jpg

hahaha, a little creepy, but it is sheploo atleast the artist didn't draw the rapeface

[Ajosraa]

Liara looks great in purple, good contrast imo

http://th03.devianta...h64-d3em9wy.jpg

[Han Shot First]

Ajosraa wrote...

Liara looks great in purple, good contrast imo

http://th03.devianta...h64-d3em9wy.jpg

She looks great out of purple too it seems.

[moreeman06]

Ajosraa wrote...

Liara looks great in purple, good contrast imo

http://th03.devianta...h64-d3em9wy.jpg

DAMN *rolls tongue back into mouth*  I agree that Liara does look good in that particular vibrant shade of purple.  I do have to ask what the background is it looks more coruscant than thessia to me

[Han Shot First]

moreeman06 wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...

Liara looks great in purple, good contrast imo

http://th03.devianta...h64-d3em9wy.jpg

DAMN *rolls tongue back into mouth*  I agree that Liara does look good in that particular vibrant shade of purple.  I do have to ask what the background is it looks more coruscant than thessia to me

Wait, there was a background?!



*looks again*


That looks like Illium.

[Ajosraa]

One more, from the front this time:) more NSFW but still classy.

http://fc01.devianta...h64-d3fmm3i.jpg

I really do think she goes good with that particular shade of purple. I would get purple sheets on Shepard's bed if I could;P. Also Asari blood is violet in color...somehow im reminded of it, and it makes it more passionate, since the color of passion for humans is typically red. So I thought that might work that way for Asari in their history and how they might perceive colors, but who knows;P


And dagnammit Liara and Shepard could use some time in a nice hottub like that, after all they've been through.

Edit: The Background is supposed to be Illium

Annnd...why not include a nice picture of Ali Hillis, who brought our favorite character to life;P

Modifié par Ajosraa, 08 juin 2012 - 06:18 .

[moreeman06]

Ajosraa wrote...

One more, from the front this time:) more NSFW but still classy.

http://fc01.devianta...h64-d3fmm3i.jpg

I really do think she goes good with that particular shade of purple. I would get purple sheets on Shepard's bed if I could;P. Also Asari blood is violet in color...somehow im reminded of it, and it makes it more passionate, since the color of passion for humans is typically red. So I thought that might work that way for Asari in their history and how they might perceive colors, but who knows;P


And dagnammit Liara and Shepard could use some time in a nice hottub like that, after all they've been through.

Edit: The Background is supposed to be Illium

ok well that makes sense as to why it's grittier and han ninja'd you a bit on it.   and i agree nice hottub  for them would be appreciated.  and i like the reasoning for the violet.

edit: top
 
by:  Ian-Coast  "Liara's Memories"  
http://ian-coast.dev.../47911579&qo=82 

Modifié par moreeman06, 08 juin 2012 - 06:20 .

[Ajosraa]

I think i added this picture of Ali late in that post, So ill just post it again;P  Ty Ali for putting up with us(us fans), and doing such a good job voicing our favorite character

Modifié par Ajosraa, 08 juin 2012 - 06:22 .