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[TMA LIVE]

There's a difference between "giving it up" right away to Shepard, despite having past relationships where she could have did the same, but didn't, compared to "giving it up" because she just started her first relationship, despite it being too soon, and maybe taking things too far because of lack of experience of being with someone.

And the idea that Liara and Shepard did anything physical before Ilos is ridiculous, because guess what, if I didn't see it happen in game, I have zero interest in someone's head canon.

And on your scale, Liara skipped all those, just to risk getting pregnant with Shepard. Or change her or evolve her mentally. Which as Liara says, is a big deal, and not something done lightly. But if she had past relationships, she does just that with Shepard, but not them.

If Shepard really was her first love, I can at least believe she's probably taking things too far because of it. Which is something that could have happened to anyone. Instead of him being "that good", compared to others.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 22 août 2011 - 06:15 .

[TMA LIVE]

Also, while we're on this topic, do people believe asari can have some form of sex, that isn't mental? That has nothing to do with the mind, and it's all physical?

[Ophiskc]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

I get your point... but for me would be more strange that this clueless girl that never even kissed before go all fiery with me directly to the point, if she never touched anybody in the past i would have expected her to be more shy or unsure, but she seems to know what she's doing

It makes more sense to me. She never thought of being with anyone else. She spend most of her time being alone, and studying. She then spends all kinds of time with you for a few days. And you saved her life. She wants to make a change, and try a relationship. And because this is new to her, she's probably going too fast, and putting too much thought into it. This also could have happened to someone else besides Shepard, if they did the same. It just happened to be Shepard.

Your explanation also makes sense, as it makes sense to me that she could have another relationship before, and thats fine by me. The good thing about this game is that those things are not written on stone, so we both are right in our head canon at the end

Modifié par Ophiskc, 22 août 2011 - 06:16 .

[TheMarshal]

TMA LIVE wrote...

There's a difference between "giving it up" right away to Shepard, despite having past relationships did the same, but didn't, compared to "giving it up" because she just started her first relationship, despite it being too soon, and maybe taking things too far because of lack of experience.

And the idea that Liara and Shepard did anything physical before Ilos is ridiculous, because guess what, if I didn't see it happen in game, I have zero interest in someone's head canon.

And on your scale, Liara skipped all those, just to risk getting pregnant with Shepard. Or change her or evolve her mentally.

So you're saying that a 106 year old asari who has been chaste for over a century suddenly experienced a sexual awakening in herself that she had never before felt all because of Shepard's special brand of Awesome™, and that caused her to jump into the sack with him/her without taking any sort of buildup?  And you prefer that idea to one in which said century-old asari has been in prior relationships, but nothing ever so serious as the one she has with Shepard, and for the first time she feels that she's found someone that she can share that part of herself with?

I'm glad I'm not playing whatever game you're playing.

[Ophiskc]

TMA LIVE wrote...
But if she had past relationships, she does just that with Shepard, but not them.

If Shepard really was her first love, I can at least believe she's probably taking things too far because of it. Which is something that could have happened to anyone. Instead of him being "that good", compared to others.

Well... i didnt had sex with my first love, does that makes me weird? Also i dont consider my second girlfriend more special than the first just because i slept with her.
In general you cant just generalize, because everyone is different in that aspect, Liara too in this context, and we dont really know much about her personal life in the past

[Kadzin]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, while we're on this topic, do people believe asari can have some form of sex, that isn't mental? That has nothing to do with the mind, and it's all physical?

If asari give birth like humans do (and I think they do) then they should have a birth canal of some sort, probably similar to the human one, the real question is does it have the sensory system like the human analog (I really hope i don't have to explain it more then I already did)

And when all else fails... they do have a mouth you know... xD

Btw a new chapter of my story is out, to all who's interested.

[Red Son Rising]

in my canon shepard is liara's first crush, her first love and her lover. at the same time liara's life is turned upside down, her relationship with shepard escalates very quickly and the rapid change from lonely scientist to spectre sidekick has a dramatic effect her decision making process 

Liara's her first intimate relationship could be with the first human shes ever met. its the first time liara would seriously think about a partners lifespan being 10x shorter than her own because shepard wont live for 1000 years. starting a relationship and enjoy time with her first bond mate would be important

liara is also still in her maiden stage: curiosity and impulse could inform her decisions more than logic or reason. shepard also takes liara to strange worlds on a crazy adventure that would satisfy her restless nature much more than studying prothean relics on remote isolated planets

there was no guaranty shepard and her crew would survive the trip to ilos or the upcoming battle with saren. faced with the prospect of dying 900 years too early, its not unlikely that liara would decide to give in to the urge to be with the first person she really cared about before it was too late
[edit] always afraid my 3 line format will be skipped over like a wall-o-text should be:?
[edit] shaved a few words, looks a lil less cluttered. hopefully its still legible 

Modifié par Red Son Rising, 22 août 2011 - 06:44 .

[Ophiskc]

This need more Liara


NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara
NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara 2

[Red Son Rising]

Ophiskc wrote...

This need more Liara
NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara
NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara 2

the series will never see intimate relationships like that again. thanks fox news for making ME2 and ME3 G-rated, the goddess knows gamers cant handle pg-13 scenes

Ophiskc wrote...

Red Son Rising wrote...
i read somewhere on these blogs that asari 'mothers' can store the 'fathers' genetic dice rolls, always assumed it was true cause it made sense

I dont know... is not said anywhere that they're capable of doing that... Personally i'm sceptical about it, i imagine that is a little complex for them to keep it completely stored in their memories, and they need to be connected at that moment to succeed

after further review [this thread lol] the asari probably dont store genetic dice rolls for later use. if the asari bonding process is similar to human reproductive activities i think its safe to say mating doesnt gauranty pregnacy and can be casual 'just for fun' experiences as well as part of serious relationships and reproduction

[coincidence you posted just now, makes my wall o text above a easier to read] 

[Robhuzz]

Kadzin wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, while we're on this topic, do people believe asari can have some form of sex, that isn't mental? That has nothing to do with the mind, and it's all physical?

If asari give birth like humans do (and I think they do) then they should have a birth canal of some sort, probably similar to the human one, the real question is does it have the sensory system like the human analog (I really hope i don't have to explain it more then I already did)

And when all else fails... they do have a mouth you know... xD

Btw a new chapter of my story is out, to all who's interested.

Well, the Asari certainly have the proper parts for it. Whether it would be enjoyable for an Asari to do it human style, I doubt it...

the series will never see intimate relationships like that again. thanks fox news for making ME2 and ME3 G-rated, the goddess knows gamers cant handle pg-13 scenes

CD Project Red did it. Though those scenes did go a little far. I wouldn't want to see TW2 style scenes in ME3 anyway. But move ME3 style romance scenes a little more towards what they were in ME1 would be most welcome.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 22 août 2011 - 06:39 .

[alex90c]

Ophiskc wrote...

This need more Liara


NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara
NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara 2

wait, those scenes are actually in the game? have I been blind in my past two playthroughs or something?

[Robhuzz]

alex90c wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

This need more Liara


NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara
NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara 2

wait, those scenes are actually in the game? have I been blind in my past two playthroughs or something?

Nah, those are from the ME1 romace scene, they're just obscured by clever camera angles but using the console to activate flycam allows you to move the camera during the romance scene and take those screenshots.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 22 août 2011 - 06:40 .

[TMA LIVE]

TheMarshal wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

There's a difference between "giving it up" right away to Shepard, despite having past relationships did the same, but didn't, compared to "giving it up" because she just started her first relationship, despite it being too soon, and maybe taking things too far because of lack of experience.

And the idea that Liara and Shepard did anything physical before Ilos is ridiculous, because guess what, if I didn't see it happen in game, I have zero interest in someone's head canon.

And on your scale, Liara skipped all those, just to risk getting pregnant with Shepard. Or change her or evolve her mentally.

So you're saying that a 106 year old asari who has been chaste for over a century suddenly experienced a sexual awakening in herself that she had never before felt all because of Shepard's special brand of Awesome™, and that caused her to jump into the sack with him/her without taking any sort of buildup?  And you prefer that idea to one in which said century-old asari has been in prior relationships, but nothing ever so serious as the one she has with Shepard, and for the first time she feels that she's found someone that she can share that part of herself with?

I'm glad I'm not playing whatever game you're playing.

No I'm saying, after not having a relationship out of lack of interest, and being mostly alone for 50 years, she meets someone who saved her life, and starts spending time with him. This same someone could have been anybody. She starts growing feelings, and doesn't understand why. She never been in a relationship before, so she doesn't know how to handle it, and wants to think about it. She then tells you you're special, but because she never been with someone before, she's reserved. Especially since she never did a union, or anything. And a union is a big deal. But because you're the first person she started caring about, and doing so in a risky situation, she wants to risk it with you. The first person she cared about.

Instead of her apparently wanting to only mate with someone she hardly knows, never kissed and never dated, for the first time, after rejecting people for 106 years of her life. Why? Because Shepard's that damn good to "give it up" compared to them, and to give it up before hugging, kissing, dating, and time spent getting to know him. He's so good, he stands out of all the rejected people she dated for 106 years. She could have given him the treatment, but no, he's special. There couldn't be anyone but Shepard for all that time, to give it up to.

I'm glad I'm not playing whatever game you're playing. Because if she did have past relationships, it literally comes off as if she was saving herself for someone like Shepard. And getting to know him more didn't matter compared to others. Instead of her simply not thinking about it, and Shepard was simply her first, or wasn't. And someone like Feron could instead be her first.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 22 août 2011 - 07:36 .

[TheMarshal]

alex90c wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

This need more Liara


NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara
NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara 2

wait, those scenes are actually in the game? have I been blind in my past two playthroughs or something?

It's the normal romance scene from ME1 capured using Flycam to move the camera around and get different perspectives on the same scene.

[alex90c]

aw man, Mass Effect 1 sex scene just got even better in my eyes now - the dragon age scenes just seem like a complete joke in comparison, LOL.

[Ophiskc]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, while we're on this topic, do people believe asari can have some form of sex, that isn't mental? That has nothing to do with the mind, and it's all physical?

In my head canon, the primitive tentacle-thing they evolutionated from werent so advance mentally, so they still needed to physicaly connect and stimulate eachother to generate the DNA randomize process.
So yes, for me they still have nerve bundles to cause pleasure, and when they evolutionate more mentally and they could choose the DNA treats, they keep this, who wouldnt?

[Red Son Rising]

Ophiskc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, while we're on this topic, do people believe asari can have some form of sex, that isn't mental? That has nothing to do with the mind, and it's all physical?

In my head canon, the primitive tentacle-thing they [evolved] from werent so advance mentally, so they still needed to physicaly connect and stimulate eachother to generate the DNA randomize process.
So yes, for me they still have nerve bundles to cause pleasure, and when they [evolve] more mentally and they could choose the DNA treats, they keep this, who wouldnt?

there has to be some kind of incentive for sentient beings to mate beyond reproduction. if the mating process isnt inviting, satisfying or desireable there would be little reason to 'do it' beyond the need to further the species

asari were also probably always single sex species, the physical incentive to mate [pleasure] and the biological need to reproduce would have [evolutionated] simultaneously. without both working in concert the asari wouldve had an extremely difficult time developing a sustainable society with significant numbers

[faster red! faster! nobody is gonna read it 9 posts too late like last time]

[TMA LIVE]

Ophiskc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
But if she had past relationships, she does just that with Shepard, but not them.

If Shepard really was her first love, I can at least believe she's probably taking things too far because of it. Which is something that could have happened to anyone. Instead of him being "that good", compared to others.

Well... i didnt had sex with my first love, does that makes me weird? Also i dont consider my second girlfriend more special than the first just because i slept with her.
In general you cant just generalize, because everyone is different in that aspect, Liara too in this context, and we dont really know much about her personal life in the past

You're missing the point. Every romance in ME besides Tali has had sex before. And they all jump in Shepard's bed right after learning about Shepard's feelings. The difference is, they never held anything back for 106 years of living. This is not their first time for anything they've held back for so long, and didn't give to anyone (except Tali, but you've know her for 2 whole games). It's not like you had sex before, but this time, it's something serious like changing your identity or evolving, with a person you barely know. But the people you've already been in a relationship with were not that special, despite knowing them more. And you're doing this at 106.

It just makes Shepard the special one out possible 10 or more people. Instead of him simply being her first, or not.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 22 août 2011 - 07:10 .

[TMA LIVE]

I mean think about it. If Shepard wasn't her first, why would she even have to think about it? Why would she need time? Why would she need to even think about a union? If she did have a relationship before, she'd already clearly have an idea of how to do things, and how to handle things. Instead she rushes into the very important and life changing thing.

[Ophiskc]

TMA LIVE wrote...
It just makes Shepard the special one out possible 10 or more people. Instead of him simply being her first, or not.

Well, for me if she was with someone before was one or two, i dont see in her someone that had many relationships. But as i said, i find both points of view valid, and at the end is up to each of us to make our own game experience

[TMA LIVE]

Kadzin wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, while we're on this topic, do people believe asari can have some form of sex, that isn't mental? That has nothing to do with the mind, and it's all physical?

If asari give birth like humans do (and I think they do) then they should have a birth canal of some sort, probably similar to the human one, the real question is does it have the sensory system like the human analog (I really hope i don't have to explain it more then I already did)

And when all else fails... they do have a mouth you know... xD

Btw a new chapter of my story is out, to all who's interested.

There was a writer who no longer works at Bioware, who said they did have a V, but it was only for reproduction, and not pleasure. However, since he's gone, there's no way to know if that's still true, or if they changed their minds.

[Ophiskc]

TMA LIVE wrote...
There was a writer who no longer works at Bioware, who said they did have a V, but it was only for reproduction, and not pleasure. However, since he's gone, there's no way to know if that's still true, or if they changed their minds

If it wasnt established it never happened as i know at least 15 writers are working for the game, to have one saying something like that seems to be just a personal guessing

[Kadzin]

TheMarshal wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

This need more Liara


NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara
NSFW ME1 Femshep/Liara 2

wait, those scenes are actually in the game? have I been blind in my past two playthroughs or something?

It's the normal romance scene from ME1 capured using Flycam to move the camera around and get different perspectives on the same scene.

Those are definitely some great um... perspectives there...

[TMA LIVE]

Ophiskc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
There was a writer who no longer works at Bioware, who said they did have a V, but it was only for reproduction, and not pleasure. However, since he's gone, there's no way to know if that's still true, or if they changed their minds

If it wasnt established it never happened as i know at least 15 writers are working for the game, to have one saying something like that seems to be just a personal guessing

True.

Though if asari can be pleased physically, we only know touching the spine does the trick.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 22 août 2011 - 07:50 .