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I really think the guilt about handing Shepard over to Cerberus was not really adressed,, it only comes up if you did not get the "I couldn't let you go". Otherwise LOTSB does not really bother to focus on that one aspect.


Dialogue between Miranda and Liara should have been a given in ME2 IMO. Another thing that always bothered me in ME2 is how Shep never questioned what Cerberus did to his/her body, I know if that was me I'd hound Chakwas to run every test imaginable on me, what they did was unnatural, I would want to know what they put in me:blink: I loved the cabin scene with Liara and Shep but perhaps more dialogue could have been added so both could express how they feel about Shepard's return. Does it bother Liara that what they did to Shepard was unnatural, should there have been some doubt in her mind if Shep could really love her again after Lazarus? Would this guilt of handing over Shep's body to Cerberus cause her to fear that what they had before would be over as Shep would resent her? I know when she tells you how Cerberus got your body you could forgive her or yell at her but it could have been fleshed out more.:whistle:On the other hand could Shepard see Liara truly falling into his/her arms again, would Shepard fear that he/she is now a strange hybrid, how could Liara love what Shep has become? Dialogue from both on these issues would have been interesting and understandable, both would have alot of questions no doubt. Although I like how they addressed that in ME3 when she puts Shep's mind at ease that she knew it was really Shep the first time she touched him/her again:wub: 

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I still want my Blue Babies, I don't understand still why I'm only on two plays just about of Mass Effect 3?

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The overly emotional stuff is the real kicker for me, the only way I've been able to rationalize it is 1) Liara was Shepard's LI 2) Whatever morality Shepard had she or he was a very emotional person 3) Liara in desperation to complete a task that has spiralled from a simple recovery to an all out ground assault on Shadow Broker mercs is purposely drawing out that piece of Shepard she took in the union. Which gives her the emotional strength of a trained military Officer but without Shepard's mind these feelings are utterly lacking in any kind of context, they are just pure anger and stubbornness. She was prepared for one thing but the current scenario is forcing her to her absolute limits and she's quite literally flirting with thoughts that are not her own.

Though that's just what works for me, I'm quite happy and able to pin Liara's personality shift on my own characters. Even my Paragon is the kind of person who would just dig in her heels and flat out refuse to listen to anyone else once she's convinced herself of a course of action and would be reckless in pursuit of that goal.

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adneate wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...
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The overly emotional stuff is the real kicker for me, the only way I've been able to rationalize it is 1) Liara was Shepard's LI 2) Whatever morality Shepard had she or he was a very emotional person 3) Liara in desperation to complete a task that has spiralled from a simple recovery to an all out ground assault on Shadow Broker mercs is purposely drawing out that piece of Shepard she took in the union. Which gives her the emotional strength of a trained military Officer but without Shepard's mind these feelings are utterly lacking in any kind of context, they are just pure anger and stubbornness. She was prepared for one thing but the current scenario is forcing her to her absolute limits and she's quite literally flirting with thoughts that are not her own.


Ha lol that lil Salarian gif is cute, I have alot of words:D Hmm that melding connection that Shep and Liara had is a plausible explanation to her sudden character shift, although would it take an asari months or years to notice subtle or not so subtle changes to their personality from melding with a regular partner or bondmate? Liara and Shep only had a few months together then Shep got spaced.  

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‘They’ are two different groups of people, but please don’t let that get in the way of your ranting.

The concept art does look like a 15-year-old. Still, there’s just no resemblance there in the in-game model. Someone in the laz thread made a properly aged version.


I'm not going to get into this, any further. (Because it  will just turn into an argument.)

Back on Topic:

Yeah I felt they could've done alot more in regards to Shepard ressurection plot. It was a loose end that needed more closure. I mean the breif mention on Chronos wasn't enough.

If you don't  take Liara  to chronos it's even more of a loose end. It was never confirmed if Shepard was the same Shepard, or just a V.I.

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CrimsonN7 wrote...
Ha lol that lil Salarian gif is cute, I have alot of words:D Hmm that melding connection that Shep and Liara had is a plausible explanation to her sudden character shift, although would it take an asari months or years to notice subtle or not so subtle changes to their personality from melding with a regular partner or bondmate? Liara and Shep only had a few months together then Shep got spaced. 


Well, and this isn't supported by anything in game I'm just filling things in, in this case the lack of a strong connection or the safety of a bondmate is what makes the shift so sudden. In purposely trying to draw those elements out she's slightly overtaken by them, the memories and emotions lack the context of a life. So using my own character for an example Liara would just have the anger and the pure hatred of Torfan, none of the aftermath or soul searching of someone who let revenge consume them and didn't find anything at the end of that path. One union is all it takes to have a part of someone and I'll just say Asari can meditate and really focus on that little piece and draw it out. If Benezia could segment her mind to keep from being totally indoctrinated then hey Liara can channel Shepard to kick heads in and save the guddamn day on Omega.

Though it's a lot of thought for something that either shouldn't have been made or done about 100 times better.

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adneate wrote...
If Benezia could segment her mind to keep from being totally indoctrinated then hey Liara can channel Shepard to kick heads in and save the guddamn day on Omega.

Though it's a lot of thought for something that either shouldn't have been made or done about 100 times better.


*looks at her renegade shep*
*looks at liara*
*looks at shep*
Crap.  :pinched:

lol...actually, i'd buy it.  Speculation and all.  Would make a little bit of more sense with my ren!shep.
*steeples fingers* Good... Good!  Yes liara, let the hate flow through you! wait wrong universe.

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doozer12 wrote...

adneate wrote...
If Benezia could segment her mind to keep from being totally indoctrinated then hey Liara can channel Shepard to kick heads in and save the guddamn day on Omega.

Though it's a lot of thought for something that either shouldn't have been made or done about 100 times better.


*looks at her renegade shep*
*looks at liara*
*looks at shep*
Crap.  :pinched:

lol...actually, i'd buy it.  Speculation and all.  Would make a little bit of more sense with my ren!shep.
*steeples fingers* Good... Good!  Yes liara, let the hate flow through you! wait wrong universe.


I agree. And is this who I think it is?

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doozer12 wrote...

adneate wrote...
If Benezia could segment her mind to keep from being totally indoctrinated then hey Liara can channel Shepard to kick heads in and save the guddamn day on Omega.

Though it's a lot of thought for something that either shouldn't have been made or done about 100 times better.


*looks at her renegade shep*
*looks at liara*
*looks at shep*
Crap.  :pinched:

lol...actually, i'd buy it.  Speculation and all.  Would make a little bit of more sense with my ren!shep.
*steeples fingers* Good... Good!  Yes liara, let the hate flow through you! wait wrong universe.


"These aren't the droids you're looking for"

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Peeked at the NSFW and it always looks like Liara is cheating on EW Shepard to me. "Dear behoova Liara! Get off that woman's lap! You dang easy butt asari you!!!!! I swear I'm going to tell on you!" Image IPB

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PMC65 wrote...

Peeked at the NSFW and it always looks like Liara is cheating on EW Shepard to me. "Dear behoova Liara! Get off that woman's lap! You dang easy butt asari you!!!!! I swear I'm going to tell on you!" Image IPB


Feel the same with every maleshep pic that's posted.

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Peeked at the NSFW and it always looks like Liara is cheating on EW Shepard to me. "Dear behoova Liara! Get off that woman's lap! You dang easy butt asari you!!!!! I swear I'm going to tell on you!" Image IPB


Feel the same with every maleshep pic that's posted.


Male or female for me ... if it's not Elizabeth then it looks weird. That's also why I've only one Shepard that romanced her and one Shepard that romanced Ashley ... Only one Shepard per character or it just feels wrong. Odd, I know. Image IPB

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

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http://mallyxable.de...ction-309177714


Mally always makes Shepard the focus of these shots, not Liara. Kindof makes me not like it as much as I would otherwise. I'm impressed at what he did with the clothing though - I'm really curious to know how he managed to make it look like their clothes are actually half off and open there - I mean, most of all, look at how open Liara's coat is. Even unstrapped.

My guess is it was done in photoshop, it's not an actual model he made or edited.

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Yuqi wrote...

I agree. And is this who I think it is?
*snips*


Yup.  That would be the miss hillis lady woman.  CSI?

Also: That NSFW... looks like "head butted one too many krogan with her face and took part in some botox treatments" femshep wants nothing to do with that tongue even though she has it trapped..? bah cant see. lol that ass though...different story.  I agree with aristo though, the clothing looks...nicely done.

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

NSFW

http://mallyxable.de...ction-309177714


Wow Liara's really taking Dad's advice to heart, not like Shep would object to some indepth study:whistle:People on public computers be warned, asari commando present:P 

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PMC65 wrote...

Male or female for me ... if it's not Elizabeth then it looks weird. That's also why I've only one Shepard that romanced her and one Shepard that romanced Ashley ... Only one Shepard per character or it just feels wrong. Odd, I know. Image IPB


I'm the same, at least with the one per character.

Female/Liara, Male/Tali, Female/Garrus, Male/Jack, Male/Miranda, Male/Ashley.

Ashley/Garrus might change, I'm not too attatched to their romances... hoping for maybe Aria or someone in DLC, lol. Might even romance Traynor instead of Garrus if I ever replay that character.

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Male or female for me ... if it's not Elizabeth then it looks weird. That's also why I've only one Shepard that romanced her and one Shepard that romanced Ashley ... Only one Shepard per character or it just feels wrong. Odd, I know. Image IPB


I'm the same, at least with the one per character.

Female/Liara, Male/Tali, Female/Garrus, Male/Jack, Male/Miranda, Male/Ashley.

Ashley/Garrus might change, I'm not too attatched to their romances... hoping for maybe Aria or someone in DLC, lol. Might even romance Traynor instead of Garrus if I ever replay that character.


Traynor is cute I'll give her that but I can't create a femshep and not romance Liara,  that's heresy:P Broshep gets one rollout for Jack otherwise I'd never bother with him. Although one playthrough I did get ninjamanced by Thane, I thought I was just being friendly:ph34r:  I Had to break his terminally ill heart:whistle:

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Male or female for me ... if it's not Elizabeth then it looks weird. That's also why I've only one Shepard that romanced her and one Shepard that romanced Ashley ... Only one Shepard per character or it just feels wrong. Odd, I know. Image IPB


I'm the same, at least with the one per character.

Female/Liara, Male/Tali, Female/Garrus, Male/Jack, Male/Miranda, Male/Ashley.

Ashley/Garrus might change, I'm not too attatched to their romances... hoping for maybe Aria or someone in DLC, lol. Might even romance Traynor instead of Garrus if I ever replay that character.


Wow! You have been busy! I've only FShep/Liara, MShep/Ash with a sidetrip of Miranda, FShep/Kaidan. No other characters made me want to create a Shepard for them.

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Wow! You have been busy! I've only FShep/Liara, MShep/Ash with a sidetrip of Miranda, FShep/Kaidan. No other characters made me want to create a Shepard for them.


Had an import for each class from ME2.

Femshep/Liara is my female (and real) canon, Male/Shep Tali is my male canon. They're the two I'm really attached to. I'm always tempted to whip them out for a playthrough.

I did enjoy Jack (although the 'goodbye' on Earth is disappointing, hopefully EC will make the relationship feel more rewarding). Miranda's was surprisingly deep & enjoyable though. I did it renegade but I actually felt she'd better suit a paragon/gade. If EC is good, I might replay them. The others, meh, unless (like I said) some more interesting options come out.

Also, I might add. Most of these I've never played past the LI's Earth 'goodbye' (for obvious reasons).

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CrimsonN7 wrote...
Traynor is cute I'll give her that but I can't create a femshep and not romance Liara,  that's heresy:P Broshep gets one rollout for Jack otherwise I'd never bother with him. Although one playthrough I did get ninjamanced by Thane, I thought I was just being friendly:ph34r:  I Had to break his terminally ill heart:whistle:


Speaking of which if you break it off with Thane in ME2, he mentions the breakup  in ME3. KiraMK2  pourposfully broke his heart though :innocent: 

doozer12 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

I agree. And is this who I think it is?
*snips*


Yup.  That would be the miss hillis lady woman.  CSI?

Also: That NSFW... looks like "head butted one too many krogan with her face and took part in some botox treatments" femshep wants nothing to do with that tongue even though she has it trapped..? bah cant see. lol that ass though...different story.  I agree with aristo though, the clothing looks...nicely done.


Yeah I think it's from CSI or  maybe Law and Order?

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Male or female for me ... if it's not Elizabeth then it looks weird. That's also why I've only one Shepard that romanced her and one Shepard that romanced Ashley ... Only one Shepard per character or it just feels wrong. Odd, I know. Image IPB


I'm the same, at least with the one per character.

Female/Liara, Male/Tali, Female/Garrus, Male/Jack, Male/Miranda, Male/Ashley.

Ashley/Garrus might change, I'm not too attatched to their romances... hoping for maybe Aria or someone in DLC, lol. Might even romance Traynor instead of Garrus if I ever replay that character.


Garus  has the best goodbye scene..

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Yuqi wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...
Traynor is cute I'll give her that but I can't create a femshep and not romance Liara,  that's heresy:P Broshep gets one rollout for Jack otherwise I'd never bother with him. Although one playthrough I did get ninjamanced by Thane, I thought I was just being friendly:ph34r:  I Had to break his terminally ill heart:whistle:


Speaking of which if you break it off with Thane in ME2, he mentions the breakup  in ME3. KiraMK2  pourposfully broke his heart though :innocent: 


On the subject of Thane, it was pretty lousy how Thanemancers got shafted in ME3, not only was his death scene one of the most moving heart-wrenching bits I've ever witnessed in a videogame but the whole romance arch was horribly inadequate and short.:huh:

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Yuqi wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Male or female for me ... if it's not Elizabeth then it looks weird. That's also why I've only one Shepard that romanced her and one Shepard that romanced Ashley ... Only one Shepard per character or it just feels wrong. Odd, I know. Image IPB


I'm the same, at least with the one per character.

Female/Liara, Male/Tali, Female/Garrus, Male/Jack, Male/Miranda, Male/Ashley.

Ashley/Garrus might change, I'm not too attatched to their romances... hoping for maybe Aria or someone in DLC, lol. Might even romance Traynor instead of Garrus if I ever replay that character.


Garus  has the best goodbye scene..

IMO Tali has the best date scene on Rannoch. Garrus's date scene is in the second place. Liara has .. "friendzoned" date scene. But I think Liara's goodbye scene is the best.

Aristobulus500 wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

NSFW

http://mallyxable.de...ction-309177714


Mally
always makes Shepard the focus of these shots, not Liara. Kindof makes
me not like it as much as I would otherwise. I'm impressed at what he
did with the clothing though - I'm really curious to know how he managed
to make it look like their clothes are actually half off and open there
- I mean, most of all, look at how open Liara's coat is. Even
unstrapped.

My guess is it was done in photoshop, it's not an actual model he made or edited.


I want to know how he did that too.

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Peeked at the NSFW and it always looks like
Liara is cheating on EW Shepard to me. "Dear behoova Liara! Get off
that woman's lap! You dang easy butt asari you!!!!! I swear I'm going to
tell on you!" Image IPB

I feel more comfortable seeing Liara with my Shepard too. After 4 hours messing around, finally I have succeeded at recreating my own Shepard. Goodbye Jane Shepard :devil:

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Allright, I'm back and i thank you guys for providing me the author :P