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[Wulfram]

I guess it pays relatively well, isn't seen as shameful in Asari culture and is easy to do for a short period before moving on, fitting into their desire to travel and explore.

Though it can be all that common, because the galaxy doesn't need that many strippers.

[Aristobulus500]

Wulfram wrote...

I guess it pays relatively well, isn't seen as shameful in Asari culture and is easy to do for a short period before moving on, fitting into their desire to travel and explore.

Though it can be all that common, because the galaxy doesn't need that many strippers.

This, too, might be a part of it. Dancing/Stripping are probably seen as easy jobs by the Asari, that let them support an adventurous lifestyle where they roam around the galaxy and various planets seeing the sights. And further, if Asari culture doesn't have a nudity taboo, then as you say, they don't even have to feel ashamed for doing the job.

[lillitheris]

^ Best top.

[PMC65]

rubynorman wrote...

A question to bump up the thread. Why do young Asari spend their time to be strippers ? It's weird IMO :-/

For the chits and giggles?


http://forum.galacti...2-Den-of-Trolls

As to why Liara has not felt the desire to strip as of yet?

1) Not her personality?
2) Matriarch Benezia's upbringing?
3) Secret past?
4) She does ... in Shepard's bedroom.

Sorry, had to go there!

[Aristobulus500]

I think Liara hasn't done it simply because she doesn't want to - she got into archaeology from a young age and that was where she focused, and she did what she could to get into that field as quickly as possible - so there wasn't any time for stripping or dancing. And, being Benezia's daughter likely meant that she was well off enough financially that she didn't even need to do it during her college years to support herself, she could focus entirely on her studies.

And once she graduated? She got into the field! And that gave her all the adventure she wanted, and more money to support it, no reason to strip/dance then.

That's a really cool picture though, I like the painting style and how there's a lot going on in the picture.

[d32f123]

lillitheris wrote...

^ Best top.

Thank you so much

Edit: ah yes the author of the second drawing is rienquedesmoutons

Modifié par d32f123, 21 juin 2012 - 07:03 .

[Akernis]

PMC65 wrote...
As to why Liara has not felt the desire to strip as of yet?

Not her personality?

That would be my guess.
Liara is a very introvert and private person. She might like to dance personally but doing so for the purpose of others watching her does not at all seem like her style, especially not erotic stripper-dancing.
I can easily see her dance but because she enjoys it, possibly casually together with friends or her lover, and not for the sake of others.

But the whole "maidens are strippers or mercenaries" is as said in all likelyhood a stereotype, while there are surely a lot of maidens that becomes mercenaries, or huntresses which is also usually maidens, I can't seem either to be an career for all asari, there must be at least as many that while  adventuous has no desire to go in combat or kill.
And even if there are many asari who take jobs as strippers there are undoudtly equally as many, or likely many more, who would chose other ways to spend their youth.

Modifié par Akernis, 21 juin 2012 - 07:20 .

[moreeman06]

Akernis wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
As to why Liara has not felt the desire to strip as of yet?

Not her personality?

That would be my guess.
Liara is a very introvert and private person. She might like to dance personally but doing so for the purpose of others watching her does not at all seem like her style, especially not erotic stripper-dancing.
I can easily see her dance but because she enjoys it, possibly casually together with friends or her lover, and not for the sake of others.

But the whole "maidens are strippers or mercenaries" is as said in all likelyhood a stereotype, while there are surely a lot of maidens that becomes mercenaries, or huntresses which is also usually maidens, I can't seem either to be an career for all asari, there must be at least as many that while  adventuous has no desire to go in combat or kill.
And even if there are many asari who take jobs as strippers there are undoudtly equally as many, or likely many more, who would chose other ways to spend their youth.

damn how come i always come in late for the party.  My opinion is what Akernis and i guess *shudders* PMC said, although it doesn't help kick the stereotype if you have the Asari you encounter say stuff like oh i just joined Eclipse for the kicks (Samara's Mission) etc...


edit:  and i killed the thread again.....

Modifié par moreeman06, 21 juin 2012 - 07:54 .

[d32f123]

Sure you did xD

[Han Shot First]

rubynorman wrote...

A question to bump up the thread. Why do young Asari spend their time to be strippers ? It's weird IMO :-/

Some do, but it is obviously only a small minority that goes the stripper or the mercenary route. Considering that there are billions of Asari it would be fairly ridiculous if a majority of them were strippers or mercs at some point. The demand for either profession can't be anywhere near that high. And if all the young adults were either strippers or mercenaries Asari civilization would have collapsed long before Mass Effect 1. When human characters make reference to Asari maidens becoming either strippers or mercs (like Joker) I chalk it up to the equivalent of a racial joke based on stereotypes.

I would be hesitant to guess but the asari near the weapons dealer on Illium says she's 60 years old, it's generally accepted that Asari reach maturity at this age (aka the asari equivalent of an 18 year old human) but Samara also said morinth went on the run when she was 40, also Samara says the ardat yakshi syndrome manifests at maturity. So there's a lot of inconsistency there even though 20 years in asari terms would be like a few weeks in human age.

Samara IIRC also states that Morinth was very young when she struck out on her own. So it may not necessarily be inconsistent. Asari may reach adulthood somewhere between 40 and 60, but typically leave home on the later end of that. If you compare 40 to an 18 year old human it would make sense that 40 was considered a very young age for Morinth to be living independently. An 18 year old human is a legal adult in most countries, but also more often than not still dependent on their parents. That is true even for college students, who often are still being financially supported by their families even if living on campus.

[Theodoro]

Akernis wrote...
That would be my guess.
Liara is a very introvert and private person. She might like to dance personally but doing so for the purpose of others watching her does not at all seem like her style, especially not erotic stripper-dancing.
I can easily see her dance but because she enjoys it, possibly casually together with friends or her lover, and not for the sake of others.

But the whole "maidens are strippers or mercenaries" is as said in all likelyhood a stereotype, while there are surely a lot of maidens that becomes mercenaries, or huntresses which is also usually maidens, I can't seem either to be an career for all asari, there must be at least as many that while  adventuous has no desire to go in combat or kill.
And even if there are many asari who take jobs as strippers there are undoudtly equally as many, or likely many more, who would chose other ways to spend their youth.

I agree completely here, Akernis. It simply doesn't it suit Liara's character. I don't even see her performing something like this for Shepard like some stories like to show she does. 

And the asari are an obvious choice for entertainment in such clubs, so it's not a surprise to see many of them there stripping, but that's only an insignificant part of their entire population. While I can see that some asari would go through such a period during their maiden stage, it's not something that lasts and it's definitely not something characteristic of the race. Similarly to how we see human strippers on the stage, as well - that doesn't mean that all or even most of them are.

frudi wrote...

rubynorman wrote...

A question to bump up the thread. Why do young Asari spend their time to be strippers ? It's weird IMO :-/

Huh,generalising much? It's not like all maidens take up dancing/stripping at some point; I'd actually dare to say only a small fraction of them do- there's only so many dancing/stripping jobs available in the galaxy . 

Agree here, as well. Which brings me to a favorite quote of Mark Twain.
'All generalizations are false, including this one.' :happy:

Modifié par Theodoro, 21 juin 2012 - 08:03 .

[Ajosraa]

Stereotypes usually come from some segment of truth, or else no one would make them.

While im sure its not all asari, or even most, but a noticeable number do happen to go into these professions, for whatever length of time for whatever reason. That then creates a stereotype that other species attach to Asari. Its bound to happen with varying perspectives. I say power too them, if other species will pay to just watch them dance around. ;P But heck, maybe Humans have a bad stereotype too among aliens. Maybe some think humans are similar to the asari, in that we seem to be a sexually active species, since humans tend to be the other large species that you see stripping a lot.

But seperately, perhaps the Asari culturally value dance in general. They seem to have a sophisticated culture, so they might value it in an artistic manner also (though that means it would bleed over into their erotic practices most likely) The whole "stripping" thing just synergises and is easy for them and their grace as a species.

And our perspective as Cmdr. Shepard , as was mentioned, takes us to places that are more seedy and are prone to be full of "those" types of people anyway.



PS. Liara may not be what many consider this type, and so exclude all possiblities of her dancing even in private for Shepard or something. I however disagree. I think this would fit her to dance in private for Shepard. It would follow her private personality, but also her inner passion. She just keeps these things very controlled. You can see that she changes a bit when in private with Shepard.  I just think that some people try to paint Liara as more overly conservative in that reguard then she is, imo.

Also, please excuse any spelling. Sometimes I write quick, and us engineering students tend to all spell bad

Modifié par Ajosraa, 21 juin 2012 - 08:29 .

[PMC65]

moreeman06 wrote...

damn how come i always come in late for the party.  My opinion is what Akernis and i guess *shudders* PMC said, although it doesn't help kick the stereotype if you have the Asari you encounter say stuff like oh i just joined Eclipse for the kicks (Samara's Mission) etc...

You may not agree with me ... the universe will collapse or something.

But Liara would have been good at it!

*remembers her dancing at Flux*


geektruth64.deviantart.com

[Han Shot First]

Aristobulus500 wrote...
all it is is a different angle taken using flycam in the sex scene, but it's good at showing off just how...detailed Liara's model is, as always. I can't get over it - it's strange that they put all this effort into her model when normally you see so little of it, you HAVE to use flycam to see how much detail they did.

I love the new skin details personally. I know a few people didn't like it, but I thought it made her look more alien without making her less attractive. Win-win in my book.

[d32f123]

Ehhmmm... what's flycam?

[Theodoro]

PMC65 wrote...
*snip*
geektruth64.deviantart.com

I'll admit that I really like this Liara manipulation. The purple color of the snake puts an emphasis on its alien nature as it is probably made to look as if it's from Thessia or other asari world. At least the effort was put. Would have been nice if Liara's more purplish look in ME3 was used, though.

d32f123 wrote...

Ehhmmm... what's flycam?

It's a tweak available for PC. By adding additional lines in Coalesced.bin, you can assign keys to be able to move the camera around at any given point, including cutscenes and gameplay.

Link here and here.

Modifié par Theodoro, 21 juin 2012 - 08:18 .

[d32f123]

Theodoro wrote...

It's a tweak available for PC. By adding additional lines in Coalesced.bin, you can assign keys to be able to move the camera around at any given point, including cutscenes and gameplay.

Link here and here.

Looks like another thing to do when I'll be back in Russia, thank you!

[TheDonk95]

How I love it when this thread is on railed and we talk about Liara and the Asari and not about some bullsh*t IT or something like that. Let's try to keep it that way.

[Ajosraa]

It might be interesting to note that Asari blood is Violet color, and so is the snake.


Great..now Im thinking, what does a Thessian snake look like..humm..  Biotic snakes? Yikes!

Modifié par Ajosraa, 21 juin 2012 - 08:33 .

[Theodoro]

TheDonk95 wrote...

How I love it when this thread is on railed and we talk about Liara and the Asari and not about some bullsh*t IT or something like that. Let's try to keep it that way.

Tell me about it. This is almost the only place free from character bashing, flaming and heated disputes over what the correct ending is and what fan theory is "proven" to be true like the IT. Not saying that there are no other places in the forum where you're free from that (the Fanfic Writers' Support Thread, for instance) but most of the spoiler forums are full of this negativity.

And now some Liara:

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

Modifié par Theodoro, 21 juin 2012 - 08:33 .

[d32f123]

Ajosraa wrote...

It might be interesting to note that Asari blood is Violet color, and so is the snake.


Great..now Im thinking, what does a Thessian snake look like..humm..  Biotic snakes? Yikes!

Yeah, and if you'll anger it, then it'll spam you with biotic throws or warps

[DirtySHISN0]

d32f123 wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...

It might be interesting to note that Asari blood is Violet color, and so is the snake.


Great..now Im thinking, what does a Thessian snake look like..humm..  Biotic snakes? Yikes!

Yeah, and if you'll anger it, then it'll spam you with biotic throws or warps

Spits reave.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Seeing this thread alive makes me glad!

PMC65 wrote...
1) Not her personality?
2) Matriarch Benezia's upbringing?

These two. Liara seems to be somewhat of an introvert (spelling?) and I imagine that Benezia also raised her expecting her to be something greater and rise above other maidens.

TOP! GIve me a second.

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

Modifié par Lizardviking, 21 juin 2012 - 08:49 .

[moreeman06]

PMC65 wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

damn how come i always come in late for the party.  My opinion is what Akernis and i guess *shudders* PMC said, although it doesn't help kick the stereotype if you have the Asari you encounter say stuff like oh i just joined Eclipse for the kicks (Samara's Mission) etc...

You may not agree with me ... the universe will collapse or something.

But Liara would have been good at it!

*remembers her dancing at Flux*


geektruth64.deviantart.com

damn it PMC and now you put this image in my brain *shakes brain to get rid of daydream*,  well that ashley ummm.... yeah.... damn its too hot here for me to even think of an insult for you....  *takes out suitcase*  I'm just gonna pack my things for the impending apocalypse now:P

also has there been any release date set yet for the EC  because I haven't been paying attention all that much