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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

frudi wrote...

@Lizardviking: sure, it's entirely possible Drew made mistakes; but I'd say it's just as likely that the animators for LotSB made a mistake when they made Vasir's blood blue (or violet or whatever exact shade it is). There's plenty of mistakes in cutscenes anyway and in general lore consistency is sadly not one of ME's strongest points.

I guess it comes down to my own bias. I dislike the idea of Asari having red blood, even though it is a small thing it makes the Asari seems less alien IMO.

[Ajosraa]

We can have both:), blue + red = Violet = compromise YAY! ;P Everyone is happy and in harmony, Let us dance ;P

Modifié par Ajosraa, 21 juin 2012 - 10:55 .

[Akernis]

Aristobulus500 wrote...
Well, the thing is this image was made before ME3 came out. I really like the concept though I think the execution on Liara could've been a bit better - she looks a little...faded? But I am absolutely fascinated by reptiles, especially snakes, so to see Liara casually chilling with a snake like that is awesome, and as Theo said I love that the snake was made purple to seem more exotic, as if it was a Thessian snake or something.

I really agree with you here, especially as I am also very fascinated by reptiles.

Aristobulus500 wrote...
Though I think more than that, while she might do a kind of more tasteful style, she'd probably prefer a style of dancing where Shepard actually dances with her, instead of just her dancing by herself in front of Shepard.

And completely agreeing here as well.

Aristobulus500 wrote...
Asari blood is purple, this is shown off in LotSB.

frudi wrote...
But I'd say it's just as likely that the animators for LotSB made a mistake when they made Vasir's blood blue (or violet or whatever exact shade it is).

It is not just in LotSB though, at any point you shoot an asari in ME2 (especially obvious while sniping Eclipse girls in slow motion) their blood in undeniably a bright purple.

Modifié par Akernis, 21 juin 2012 - 11:02 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

frudi wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

I put both Benezia and Aria at around 700 given they have daughters at 100 years approx.

Samara and Aethyta I would put around 900.

The dossie for Samara and her class skill upgrade (I know, not the best source for lore) states that she has biotics skills compared to a matriach. If she was one, why would the text bother to make that distinction.

In her talk about Morinth she mention she settled down and got children when her matron days came, since Morinth was 40 when she fled and Samara has been chasing her for 300 years. That mean Samara had Morinth when she was around 560. Which seems too far late into her matron years compared to how she told it.

I still think Samara being around the 700 seems like the most likely, I am willing to stretch it out to 800, but 900 seems too unrealistic.

IIRC, Samara had been hunting Morinth for 400, not 300 years. So 400 years of hunting, 40 years before Morinth ran away and say 300+ years before Samara even had Morinth... would put her at least in the 800 year old range, so definitely a matriarch.

Was it 400 years?

I guess that makes it more plausible. I guess it comes down to just how late into her matron stage Samara got Morinth. The way she talked about it I got the impression that she did not get her immediatly, but it did nok take a long time.

[Yuqi]

Theodoro wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...
also has there been any release date set yet for the EC  because I haven't been paying attention all that much

Nope. All we have right now is 'summer' as the release date for the EC.

Here's Chris Priestly's post as to what 'summer' means:

Chris Priestly wrote...

Summer will mean different things to different people. Some people think of it as June, July & August (traditionally teh warmest months). Some people use the astronomical calendar which means summer is between June 20 and September 21 this year.

For Australians, summer runs November, December and January.

Forthe Extended Cut, Summer will refer to when it is done and ready to be released. Could be this month, could be next month, or August or September.

I had to correct this, it just bugged me.

Summer actually runs November, December, January and Febuary. However depending on the weather cycle it can last until mid April.(Aka drought cycle)

The more you know~

[Ajosraa]

And knowing is half the battle....GI Yuqi!....sorry;P

[gisle]

Assuming each one don't deviate from the common life stage norms (matron at 350, matriarch at 700). Here's my attempt at an estimate for characters discussed here.

Aethyta says herself she's "thousand years old and still don't know crap." in ME3 when discussing Benezia with Liara.
Liara says she was a matriarch's daughter in ME1, implying Benezia was a matriarch throghout her childhood. I'd say she's at least 800 by the time of her death.
Samara must be at least 820 (350 years before matron + 40 years of Morinth's childhood + 430 years of being a justicar (Oath of Solitude in 1755 CE)) She saying she's almost thousand implies that she might be in her 900s though.
Aria have a daughter (Liselle) in her first century (ME:Retribution), I'd suggest she's in her late 400s or her 500s.at least.
Falere is 473 years old (She was 42 in 1755 CE (source: SB files / Samara))
Morinth is somewhere between 473-513 (Morinth ran away at age 40 and knew her sisters, falere's age + 40 = 513)

Modifié par Gisle-Aune, 22 juin 2012 - 12:54 .

[Han Shot First]

The codex states that Asari Matriarchs act as sages and councillors in their communities. While for some that might mean leadership in government, the military, or business, most are probably just heads of extended family groups, sort of like the Asari version of a pater familias without the autocracy.

At any rate, would Samara be considered a Matriarch by the Asari even if she was physically old enough to be one?Is it just about age or is there a cultural aspect attached to it as well? If it is the latter, it could be that Samara is old enough to be a Matriarch but isn't considered one by other Asari because she is a Justicar. In becoming a Justicar an Asari gives up all of her worldly possessions and forswears having children or family. They symbolically cut ties with their past lives and live a solitary existence of completely single-minded devotion to the Code. That seems to run completely counter to the very social aspect of being an Asari Matriarch.

Just speculating, but it might explain why it is said that Samara is as powerful as Matriarch even though she is old enough to be one. There might not necessarily be a lore contradiction.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 22 juin 2012 - 12:40 .

[Yuqi]

Ajosraa wrote...

And knowing is half the battle....GI Yuqi!....sorry;P

missInformation is bad information.

[CrimsonN7]

frudi wrote...

I for one can easily imagine Liara doing something like that for Shepard (and not just because of Rae's Display fic). But then again, I also think that in intimate situations with Shepard she's not as timid or restrained as most people seem to assume. Just going by her two sex scenes (especially the one in ME3), she actually seems quite assertive, in control, like she knows what she wants and what to do about it. There's more to her than just the shy scientist and detached shadow broker

Agreed, Asari are very sensuous, they naturally exude sex appeal and are not timid when it comes to sexual matters, I don't think Liara would have any qualms with putting on a private display for Shepard, for fun and pleasure. My Shep wouldn't object anyway, sit down, shut up, enjoy:wub: Also as a scientist I could imagine Liara doing alot of research before she tests out her new discoveries on Shep, one thing is for certain being with Liara intimately would never get boring:whistle: Damn Rae her work has seriously warped my mind:D 



OT: Really hope the Omega DLC is gonna happen, pity Aria didn't find out that The Illusive Man was responsible for the death of her daughter, if anyone deserved to slowly gut the bast*rd it should have been Aria:devil:

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 22 juin 2012 - 12:47 .

[Ajosraa]

How about some Liara vs Aria scenes in any possible Omega DLC?

That could be interesting I think. They did have the past dealings during the Redemption comic and all. At least some tension or exposition between them would be interesting, especially if it was consering dealings while trying to get Shepard's body. They could even add romance dependent parts to it, if you were a romance to Liara during the time, Like Aria might say something like "you sure were dedicated" To Liara, or something.



PS. OK, Is Aria purple, or blue? Me2 and Me3 seem to disagree. IS this some lighting thing agian like what happened to our Liara on Illium in Me2?

Modifié par Ajosraa, 22 juin 2012 - 01:06 .

[PMC65]

lillitheris wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

I put both Benezia and Aria at around 700 given they have daughters at 100 years approx.

Samara and Aethyta I would put around 900.

The dossie for Samara and her class skill upgrade (I know, not the best source for lore) states that she has biotics skills compared to a matriach. If she was one, why would the text bother to make that distinction.

In her talk about Morinth she mention she settled down and got children when her matron days came, since Morinth was 40 when she fled and Samara has been chasing her for 300 years. That mean Samara had Morinth when she was around 560. Which seems too far late into her matron years compared to how she told it.

I still think Samara being around the 700 seems like the most likely, I am willing to stretch it out to 800, but 900 seems too unrealistic.

I’m not sure where you’re getting the 560 from, but it could be just because I’m tired. I think the average matron stage entry is quoted somewhere between 300 and 350, but it varies.

Asari pass through three climacteric life stages, marked by biochemical and physiological changes:

• The Maiden stage begins at puberty and is marked by the drive to explore and experience. Most young asari are curious and restless.

• The Matron stage of life begins around the age of 350, though it can be triggered earlier if the individual melds frequently. This period is marked by a desire to settle in one area and raise children.

• The Matriarch stage begins around 700 years of age, or earlier if the individual melds rarely. Matriarchs become active in their community as sages and councilors, dispensing wisdom from centuries of experience. Their knowledge and guidance may be one reason why Matriarchs are rarely seen outside asari space.

[CrimsonN7]

Ajosraa wrote...

How about some Liara vs Aria scenes in any possible Omega DLC?

That could be interesting I think. They did have the past dealings during the Redemption comic and all. At least some tension or exposition between them would be interesting, especially if it was consering dealings while trying to get Shepard's body. They could even add romance dependent parts to it, if you were a romance to Liara during the time, Like Aria might say something like "you sure were dedicated" To Liara, or something.



PS. OK, Is Aria purple, or blue? Me2 and Me3 seem to disagree. IS this some lighting thing agian like what happened to our Liara on Illium in Me2?

In regards to the novels they say that Aria has a more  violet hint to her skin tone than blue, in the comics she's violet in the games though she does have a kind of mixed violety blue complexion to her. If people go by the games alone we only see her in the club so under that lighting it can be difficult to distinguish. So her complexion is more violet than blue, her daughter Liselle had a more typical asari blue complexion and Grayson wondered if that had something to do with Aria's age too.

I would love to have some interactive dialogue between Aria and Liara, my two favourite Asari, in the comic we only got a brief run in, would have loved more myself:D

[Ajosraa]

But in the Purgatory bar in ME3, she looks basicly just..blue.

If that is in error, It could be yet another sign of Me3 being rushed, and the developers "forgetting" yet another detail.

This is what happens when there are no engineering people around...people who care about such details. And Casey Hudson, as a former mechanical engineering student, should have understood this. For shame. ;P


But besides all that personal angst ;P , I think an Aria/ Liara encounter would be full of creative oppertunity.

Modifié par Ajosraa, 22 juin 2012 - 01:26 .

[CrimsonN7]

Ajosraa wrote...

But in the Purgatory bar in ME3, she looks basicly just..blue.

If that is in error, It could be yet another sign of Me3 being rushed, and the developers "forgetting" yet another detail.

This is what happens when there are no engineering people around...people who care about such details. And Casey Hudson, as a former mechanical engineering student, should have understood this. For shame. ;P


But besides all that personal angst ;P , I think an Aria/ Liara encounter would be full of creative oppertunity.

I would just imagine it's the clubs lighting really, like going into any club people look much different in the dark. Aria is a violet toned asari I'd go by the comics and novel as my canon sources. Bioware dropped the ball on numerous occassions in ME3, the more I replay the game the more this sad fact is hammered home<_< But it won't deter me though as I love the Mass Effect universe and I'm thankful to Bioware for creating it^_^

[Han Shot First]

Ajosraa wrote...

But in the Purgatory bar in ME3, she looks basicly just..blue.

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The Blue Suns' merc leader on the Citadel also says something about getting Aria's 'blue ass' into bed with him. My immediate reaction was, "Wait...isn't she purple?"

[Ajosraa]

Han Shot First wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...

But in the Purgatory bar in ME3, she looks basicly just..blue.

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The Blue Suns' merc leader on the Citadel also says something about getting Aria's 'blue ass' into bed with him. My immediate reaction was, "Wait...isn't she purple?"

ya lore fail, and they dare claim artistic integrity.
 
Oh and, Stop wearing that stupid bonnet Mack Walters, your going bald isent hidden from anyone. Rogain Rogain!

sorry;P

[CrimsonN7]

Han Shot First wrote...

The Blue Suns' merc leader on the Citadel also says something about getting Aria's 'blue ass' into bed with him. My immediate reaction was, "Wait...isn't she purple?"

I loved Aria's response to his delusion of getting her into his bed:D As if Aria would crawl into bed with some second rate criminal like him:P I'd chalk that remark down to a derogatory insult myself just because she's an asari. Also Aria is a major control freak, if she wanted something or someone she would just take it, she wouldn't ask and I'd imagine she would be very selective on who she'd invite into her bed too:whistle:

[CrimsonN7]

frudi wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

I loved Aria's response to his delusion of getting her into his bed:D As if Aria would crawl into bed with some second rate criminal like him:P

I can just imagine Shepard going back to that ******, shattering his delusions of getting Aria's blue ass into bed and then, just to rub it in, adding something like "And FYI, since you'll never be lucky enough to find out for yourself, even the blue asari have purple asses"

Considering the asari are known to be the best lay in the galaxy and Liara's always open to suggestions and she's on the Normandy 24/7, me thinks Shep is over-sexed, ah good complaint:whistle:



Liara insists Shepard:wub: Like my Shep would put up much of a resistance anyway:whistle:

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 22 juin 2012 - 02:46 .

[thepassingplayer]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...

humm..True, you got me there:) I guess they stay home. Or went to Space Florida, or something;P

Be nice to your kids, Liara and Shep... they'll choose yer nursing home.

New Tempa.

Btw, has this been covered somewhere in the 6k+ pages here - do asari get MC's?  Do they have it for 500 years before menopause kicks in?