Liara Fans: keep your love blue and true!
#41451
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 07:23
I'm keeping it in my headcanon unless they really knock it out of the park. Translanted? I'm 98.9% keeping it.
IT works for me with my poor Shepard delirious on Earth and struggling to keep her sanity. Will she beat it? Will the reapers be beaten? I have no bloody clue and don't care.
As to canon? Not so cement now once they cut to that old man storyteller ... Shepard's story ... What is real? What is fail in his memory? What is fail in the passing down of the story? It's each of our own calls now. Win - win!
#41452
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 07:27
IliyaMoroumetz wrote...
I just hope that it utterly crushes Indoctrination Theory so soundly that the supporters will cry enough tears to flood the Sahara Desert!
I'm normally not this malicious, but I tend to make exceptions to something so driven by hysteria.
Yeah, it'll be great when you get your wish and we get an ending that says, definitively, that Shepard dies and everyone - including Liara - is stranded for the rest of their miserable lives on that planet and galactic society is doomed.
But hey, at least IT theory wasn't true, right? At least there aren't any outs from this awful ending and you have to accept it as true, every last miserable bit of it!
#41453
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 07:32
With some encouragement from Theo, I finally finished my companion piece to Empty, which is about Liara trying to come to terms with Shepard's death at the hands of the Collectors.
The piece is called 15 Seconds, and is told from Shepard's point-of-view. It details his/her thoughts of Liara over the last 15 seconds of consciousness following the Normandy's destruction. Dying thoughts are incredibly difficult to write, and I have no idea if I've made a complete hash of it or if it's somewhat touching - although I hope it's the latter.
Both are pretty short (600-700 words).
Background: this Shep has had a tragic past, grew up to be an all-swearing Torfan veteran and kind of really has nothing to live for. All changed (gradually) by our favourite Liara, who stole her heart and gave her something to live for (inevitably cheesy like that).
I hope you enjoy
Modifié par noxiuniversitas1, 23 juin 2012 - 07:48 .
#41454
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 07:52
Aristobulus500 wrote...
IliyaMoroumetz wrote...
I just hope that it utterly crushes Indoctrination Theory so soundly that the supporters will cry enough tears to flood the Sahara Desert!
I'm normally not this malicious, but I tend to make exceptions to something so driven by hysteria.
Yeah, it'll be great when you get your wish and we get an ending that says, definitively, that Shepard dies and everyone - including Liara - is stranded for the rest of their miserable lives on that planet and galactic society is doomed.
But hey, at least IT theory wasn't true, right? At least there aren't any outs from this awful ending and you have to accept it as true, every last miserable bit of it!
So, IT is the definitive answer to everything, right? Nevermind all the plot holes that none of the ITers want to even entertain and continue to ignore out of one of the largest, most collective cases of denial I've ever had the misfortune to see. The entire theory is one of the most irritating topics I've ever come across in a combination of silly "evidence" and irritating people that slap it into every thread they click on. So, yes, I really, really hope it's not true. Most of the ITers I've come across have attempted to shove this down my throat so hard that I can't stand to even entertain this theory any longer. My patience for this is paper thin, to be honest. So, I take it back, I now feel something regarding the EC. I desperately hope that Bioware will exercise their writing talents to come up with something other than IT to explain their writing mistakes.
They have the talent, they just picked two of the worst people they could have had to write the ending. They have the creativity to come up with something that is Bioware not something that is barely pieced together by desperate fans. I will be pissed if they pick IT to explain the endings, but luckily the IT doesn't exactly fit their, "We're not fundamentally changing the endings line." I'd love for them to do a rewrite myself, but I accept that they aren't doing that, however ITers don't seem to want to do the same. No matter how you slice it, IT would change the endings. In fact, it would require a whole other ending to be written in order to actually end the game. That's changing the ending, and I really don't see how a case could be made that it isn't.
To be honest, I would prefer the miserable ending over IT. At least then, it would be wrong and no one has to talk about it ever again and I can go back into the Story and Discussion forum without fear that the thread I'm reading will be derailed by the asinine Indoctrination Theory. The miserable ending won't bother me, I won't care because of the headcanon I already have. However, I don't think I'd be able to stand the smugness of ITers if they get what they want. Me? I'll just pretend that no one ever came up with it to begin with. I just want it to go away....
#41455
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:02
#41456
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:06
noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
Hello everyone,
With some encouragement from Theo, I finally finished my companion piece to Empty, which is about Liara trying to come to terms with Shepard's death at the hands of the Collectors.
The piece is called 15 Seconds, and is told from Shepard's point-of-view. It details his/her thoughts of Liara over the last 15 seconds of consciousness following the Normandy's destruction. Dying thoughts are incredibly difficult to write, and I have no idea if I've made a complete hash of it or if it's somewhat touching - although I hope it's the latter.
Both are pretty short (600-700 words).
Background: this Shep has had a tragic past, grew up to be an all-swearing Torfan veteran and kind of really has nothing to live for. All changed (gradually) by our favourite Liara, who stole her heart and gave her something to live for (inevitably cheesy like that).
I hope you enjoy
Amazing work again, and I want to say that I definitely recommend everyone read these stories. No matter who your Shepard is, they are relevant, impacting, and emotional - very well-written. My Shepard isn't the Torfan veteran but what is portrayed here is true for him, as well. I hope you'll be writing more of these, Jen!
#41457
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:09
To say you don't like the IT is almost literally to say you approve of the Star Child, you like the galaxy being destroyed, you find Shepard dying awesome, you think it's very fitting that the Normandy crew crashes on Eden and is stuck there.
It is absolutely absurd to me that some people want to take the contradictory stance that the ending we have is awful yet they don't like IT. You really can't have it both ways - because there's no other viable or reasonable out.
Bioware either can't or won't just straight up delete the entire last section of the game to write in a real ending, so you need something that allows them to retcon all of the bad away, to pull a good ending out of this mess. That is literally what the IT is. How do you not comprehend this, how do you not understand this?
Go ahead, try and propose a good, quality ending that actually uses the Star Child, the 3 colored endings, Shepard dying, galactic civilization being destroyed, and the Normandy crew being stranded. I dare you. This is a challenge I promise you that you can not meet - without using the IT.
Because the IT does this. It actually uses them. They are all still there, still present, just turned out to be false and then you get a real ending.
So deal with this. Either accept that you like the current ending, or realize that the IT is the only viable out. You don't have any other choices, unless you can write up a satisfying ending that uses all of the negative traits of the ending, as I said.
#41458
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:10
Well know in four days.MidnightRaith wrote...
Aristobulus500 wrote...
IliyaMoroumetz wrote...
I just hope that it utterly crushes Indoctrination Theory so soundly that the supporters will cry enough tears to flood the Sahara Desert!
I'm normally not this malicious, but I tend to make exceptions to something so driven by hysteria.
Yeah, it'll be great when you get your wish and we get an ending that says, definitively, that Shepard dies and everyone - including Liara - is stranded for the rest of their miserable lives on that planet and galactic society is doomed.
But hey, at least IT theory wasn't true, right? At least there aren't any outs from this awful ending and you have to accept it as true, every last miserable bit of it!
So, IT is the definitive answer to everything, right? Nevermind all the plot holes that none of the ITers want to even entertain and continue to ignore out of one of the largest, most collective cases of denial I've ever had the misfortune to see. The entire theory is one of the most irritating topics I've ever come across in a combination of silly "evidence" and irritating people that slap it into every thread they click on. So, yes, I really, really hope it's not true. Most of the ITers I've come across have attempted to shove this down my throat so hard that I can't stand to even entertain this theory any longer. My patience for this is paper thin, to be honest. So, I take it back, I now feel something regarding the EC. I desperately hope that Bioware will exercise their writing talents to come up with something other than IT to explain their writing mistakes.
They have the talent, they just picked two of the worst people they could have had to write the ending. They have the creativity to come up with something that is Bioware not something that is barely pieced together by desperate fans. I will be pissed if they pick IT to explain the endings, but luckily the IT doesn't exactly fit their, "We're not fundamentally changing the endings line." I'd love for them to do a rewrite myself, but I accept that they aren't doing that, however ITers don't seem to want to do the same. No matter how you slice it, IT would change the endings. In fact, it would require a whole other ending to be written in order to actually end the game. That's changing the ending, and I really don't see how a case could be made that it isn't.
To be honest, I would prefer the miserable ending over IT. At least then, it would be wrong and no one has to talk about it ever again and I can go back into the Story and Discussion forum without fear that the thread I'm reading will be derailed by the asinine Indoctrination Theory. The miserable ending won't bother me, I won't care because of the headcanon I already have. However, I don't think I'd be able to stand the smugness of ITers if they get what they want. Me? I'll just pretend that no one ever came up with it to begin with. I just want it to go away....
#41459
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:14
noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
Hello everyone,
With some encouragement from Theo, I finally finished my companion piece to Empty, which is about Liara trying to come to terms with Shepard's death at the hands of the Collectors.
The piece is called 15 Seconds, and is told from Shepard's point-of-view. It details his/her thoughts of Liara over the last 15 seconds of consciousness following the Normandy's destruction. Dying thoughts are incredibly difficult to write, and I have no idea if I've made a complete hash of it or if it's somewhat touching - although I hope it's the latter.
Both are pretty short (600-700 words).
Background: this Shep has had a tragic past, grew up to be an all-swearing Torfan veteran and kind of really has nothing to live for. All changed (gradually) by our favourite Liara, who stole her heart and gave her something to live for (inevitably cheesy like that).
I hope you enjoy
Saved them on my hard disk, thank you, will read them while be in plane
#41460
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:18
I hpoe Bioware destroys IT. Most of IT is nonsense make by fans.Aristobulus500 wrote...
If ITers get what they want, you get a real, quality ending, because that's all IT is. A way to write off literally everything bad about the current ending, and write in an entirely new ending.
To say you don't like the IT is almost literally to say you approve of the Star Child, you like the galaxy being destroyed, you find Shepard dying awesome, you think it's very fitting that the Normandy crew crashes on Eden and is stuck there.
It is absolutely absurd to me that some people want to take the contradictory stance that the ending we have is awful yet they don't like IT. You really can't have it both ways - because there's no other viable or reasonable out.
Bioware either can't or won't just straight up delete the entire last section of the game to write in a real ending, so you need something that allows them to retcon all of the bad away, to pull a good ending out of this mess. That is literally what the IT is. How do you not comprehend this, how do you not understand this?
Go ahead, try and propose a good, quality ending that actually uses the Star Child, the 3 colored endings, Shepard dying, galactic civilization being destroyed, and the Normandy crew being stranded. I dare you. This is a challenge I promise you that you can not meet - without using the IT.
Because the IT does this. It actually uses them. They are all still there, still present, just turned out to be false and then you get a real ending.
So deal with this. Either accept that you like the current ending, or realize that the IT is the only viable out. You don't have any other choices, unless you can write up a satisfying ending that uses all of the negative traits of the ending, as I said.
#41461
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:18
I've said in previous posts and I hold to my opinion that in a hypothetical situation, I'd prefer a sad ending that makes sense and fits thematically with the rest of the series than a happy space magic ending. However, seeing as how we apparently won't be getting a good ending that makes sense, might as well make all the space magic result in something happy. That's the difference between the endings of Mass Effect and Lost right now. The former makes no sense and it's depressing and sad, while the latter is still nonsensical but at least it's somewhat of a happy way to end the series, even though it was a cop-out. I'd take the latter over the former.
And why does your hatred towards IT believers blind you to the fact that IT can save Mass Effect? Yes, I too don't like the IT shoved down my throat by some of the more hardcore IT believers that keep on saying 'this is proof, that is proof', but I don't let that affect me, similarly to how a certain character's fanbase, no matter how irritating it might be, does not affect the fact that I like that character. I do not agree with most IT believers and the fact that everything is evidence for them, and I understand where you're coming from, but that is not a reason to hate the IT.
Modifié par Theodoro, 23 juin 2012 - 08:22 .
#41462
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:25
Aristobulus500 wrote...
If ITers get what they want, you get a real, quality ending, because that's all IT is. A way to write off literally everything bad about the current ending, and write in an entirely new ending.
To say you don't like the IT is almost literally to say you approve of the Star Child, you like the galaxy being destroyed, you find Shepard dying awesome, you think it's very fitting that the Normandy crew crashes on Eden and is stuck there.
It is absolutely absurd to me that some people want to take the contradictory stance that the ending we have is awful yet they don't like IT. You really can't have it both ways - because there's no other viable or reasonable out.
Bioware either can't or won't just straight up delete the entire last section of the game to write in a real ending, so you need something that allows them to retcon all of the bad away, to pull a good ending out of this mess. That is literally what the IT is. How do you not comprehend this, how do you not understand this?
Go ahead, try and propose a good, quality ending that actually uses the Star Child, the 3 colored endings, Shepard dying, galactic civilization being destroyed, and the Normandy crew being stranded. I dare you. This is a challenge I promise you that you can not meet - without using the IT.
Because the IT does this. It actually uses them. They are all still there, still present, just turned out to be false and then you get a real ending.
So deal with this. Either accept that you like the current ending, or realize that the IT is the only viable out. You don't have any other choices, unless you can write up a satisfying ending that uses all of the negative traits of the ending, as I said.
I will not be bullied into accepting a piece of **** to cover a piece of ****. I know how aggressive you can be about things, Aristobulus, but that won't work with me. Neither are something I want to accept, but one is better than the other, and frankly, it is not the Indoctrination Theory. I will write off this series if Bioware cannot make the endings work without IT, because IT is not something that works in a literary sense. You people have twisted Mass Effect lore to fit something that is silly and makes little sense in game lore. IT is not quality. You all want to think that rushed, flawed game design is proof. You want to think that Bioware lied to us about cutting indocrination out of the game, only to include it in the ending. They said that it did not work. I don't know how much clearer they could have made it for y'all.
But, I'm sick of arguing about this. I'm sick to my damn stomach trying to point out all of the horribly obvious clues, hell, statements that point out that Bioware won't do the Indoctrination Theory. No one wants to change their mind for either side. I won't write anything for you. Not because I can't (you want to read something like that, then go on freaking ff.net and do a simple search. There are dozens of fics that fit your demands. It's not as hard as you make it seem.), but because I'm ****ing sick of this whole thing. I'm not playing any games, I'm not going to accept your absolutes and I'm just not going to talk about this anymore.
I'm going to wait for EC and if it proves me wrong, then I'm just going to have to never trust Bioware again. Proves me right, and I'm going to pretend this never happened. Because that's what I want the most as far as this board is concerned. I'm sick of the hostility over this, I'm sick of going to other boards and getting laughed at for even mentioning BSN due to IT and I'm sick of hearing about it. My irritation of Thane's death, of how the asari were treated, of the Cerberus coup and the whole damn endings pale in comparison to how absolutely tired I am of reading, seeing, hearing, whatever about the Indoctrination Theory. I'm done, I just want to wait three days and see what we get.
#41463
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:27
You don't need IT to save Mass Effect. Bioware could make new endings if they wanted to.Theodoro wrote...
I completely agree with Aristobulus and the reasons why I think IT is the only way out of this mess. Regardless of whatever plot holes the IT may open up, the enormous one that is sticking out and is bigger in size than the rest of the plot holes multiplied by a three-digit number is actually filled. Sure, BioWare could make the endings slightly more bearable than what we have now without IT, but they still won't be what I believe Mass Effect deserves. They're still an insult to the franchise and everything we loved about it, and the IT makes all this nonsense go away.
I've said in previous posts and I hold to my opinion that in a hypothetical situation, I'd prefer a sad ending that makes sense and fits thematically with the rest of the series than a happy space magic ending. However, seeing as how we apparently won't be getting a good ending that makes sense, might as well make all the space magic result in something happy. That's the difference between the endings of Mass Effect and Lost right now. The former makes no sense and it's depressing and sad, while the latter is still nonsensical but at least it's somewhat of a happy way to end the series, even though it was a cop-out. I'd take the latter over the former.
And why does your hatred towards IT believers blind you to the fact that IT can save Mass Effect? Yes, I too don't like the IT shoved down my throat by some of the more hardcore IT believers that keep on saying 'this is proof, that is proof', but I don't let that affect me, similarly to how a certain character's fanbase, no matter how irritating it might be, does not affect the fact that I like that character. I do not agree with most IT believers and the fact that everything is evidence for them, and I understand where you're coming from, but that is not a reason to hate the IT.
#41464
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:29
#41465
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:31
Will seeshepard1038 wrote...
You don't need IT to save Mass Effect. Bioware could make new endings if they wanted to.
FINISH HIMVorcha(can't remember your nickname
) wrote...
Stop talking about IT or Conrad Verner dies!
*WOOAH*
Modifié par d32f123, 23 juin 2012 - 08:35 .
#41466
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:34
Nah you can kill him.lol He bothers my shepard to much and i don't care much for him.kumquats wrote...
Stop talking about IT or Conrad Verner dies!
#41467
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:36
kumquats wrote...
Stop talking about IT or Conrad Verner dies!
The man is as good as dead, if that's the demand you're going to make....
#41468
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:38
LOLkumquats wrote...
Stop talking about IT or Conrad Verner dies!
*snip*
Oh god
#41469
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:38
MidnightRaith wrote...
I will not be bullied into accepting a piece of **** to cover a piece of ****. I know how aggressive you can be about things, Aristobulus, but that won't work with me. Neither are something I want to accept, but one is better than the other, and frankly, it is not the Indoctrination Theory. I will write off this series if Bioware cannot make the endings work without IT, because IT is not something that works in a literary sense. You people have twisted Mass Effect lore to fit something that is silly and makes little sense in game lore. IT is not quality. You all want to think that rushed, flawed game design is proof. You want to think that Bioware lied to us about cutting indocrination out of the game, only to include it in the ending. They said that it did not work. I don't know how much clearer they could have made it for y'all.
Slow the **** down. Chill your ****ing pill. You've put a bunch of words into my mouth that I never said, about the IT. If you've read my posts before to say you know how I act, then you should know my stance on the IT.
I never said it was well written, I never said it was something Bioware cleverly intended, I don't think it's a masterpiece. I know some people think this, but I'm not one of them. Let me clarify for you my stance on the IT but you clearly think that I believe something other than what I do.
IT is not well written. It's not even about being well written. It's not a clever web constructed by Bioware - the truth is originally they did plan on having indoctrination play into the ending, but they decided to scrap that - but in scrapping it, all they did was scrap the indoctrination as it played out in the end, with TIM specifically controlling Shepard and you having to fight it. They left in a bunch of hints throughout the game and didn't bother removing them though.
Even if IT was something Bioware ran with, though, I wouldn't say that it was a master plan by Bioware - even if they claimed it was. Even if it got used, I would believe that they simply used it for what it is - an out from the hole the current ending has them in. They weren't intending the current ending to blow up on them like this, and for the IT to be planned like this, they would've had to, and that's absurd.
But hell, forget all of this - when I say I buy into the IT, I'm not talking about all that **** strung out throughout the game, I don't concern myself with that. The IT is, for me, a sequence that plays out like this - Shepard runs to Citadel beam. Shepard gets blasted by Harbinger. The blast knocks him unconscious and while he's on the ground unconscious Harbinger induces the current ending as an indoctrination attempt - everything from Shepard getting up and facing Marauder shields and on, is the dream. Before that? Not a dream. Then, Shepard chooses Destroy, wakes up in the rubble...and this is what I mean when I say IT is an out.
At this point, I say that Shepard wakes up for real and Harbinger is still there, his squad is still there, he hasn't gotten to the Citadel beam yet. The Star Child and all of that never actually happened and when Shepard approaches the beam this time, something entirely different can happen. The Star Child, and the 3 colored endings, don't have to actually exist! The Catalyst can be something entirely different!
That's what the IT is about, providing that out. Sure, it's not good writing, but ****, you can't use the original ending and make something from it that is good writing.
I know some IT fans like to point to weird **** throughout the game and say there's indoctrination happening all throughout the game, but I don't buy into that. It's too weird, and doesn't have any payoff, and doesn't make sense. The truth is all that weird **** throughout the game is just leftovers from a plot they scrapped and forgot to scrub everything out of the game, so in its' current form it's meaningless, the only part of the IT I use is, as said, the part from when Shepard gets blasted by Harbinger.
#41470
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:47
shepard1038 wrote...
You don't need IT to save Mass Effect. Bioware could make new endings if they wanted to.
Oh of course. It's absolutely in Bioware's power to just straight up scrap the entire last 1/4 of the game and just write something entirely new.
Thing is, they won't do that. It would be the best option, of course I would vastly prefer them just flat out deleting the endings we have and just making new ones, rather than to attempt to build a good ending out of the mess that is the current endings.
But Bioware won't do that. They've said they won't. In that case, IT is all we're left with, it's the only way I've heard, that still meets all the requirements of things Bioware wants to keep in about the current ending, and still allows for a good ending to exist.
If Bioware would just drop the current ending entirely we wouldn't need the IT, but well...
#41471
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:47
What is that?lolrubynorman wrote...
LOLkumquats wrote...
Stop talking about IT or Conrad Verner dies!
*snip*
Oh god
#41472
Guest_frudi_*
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:51
Guest_frudi_*
Re: IT: just let the argument go, at least for now. Bioware have now repeatedly said that EC will not give a definitive answer regarding IT, they have repeated this several times even yesterday. So just forget about IT for now, wait for EC, see what it brings and then you/we can all go back to arguing about IT in the appropriate threads.
#41473
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:54
I didn't mean scraping the endings. I meant implement various endings if bioware wanted that ranged from badto a happy endingAristobulus500 wrote...
shepard1038 wrote...
You don't need IT to save Mass Effect. Bioware could make new endings if they wanted to.
Oh of course. It's absolutely in Bioware's power to just straight up scrap the entire last 1/4 of the game and just write something entirely new.
Thing is, they won't do that. It would be the best option, of course I would vastly prefer them just flat out deleting the endings we have and just making new ones, rather than to attempt to build a good ending out of the mess that is the current endings.
But Bioware won't do that. They've said they won't. In that case, IT is all we're left with, it's the only way I've heard, that still meets all the requirements of things Bioware wants to keep in about the current ending, and still allows for a good ending to exist.
If Bioware would just drop the current ending entirely we wouldn't need the IT, but well...
#41474
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:03
shepard1038 wrote...
I didn't mean scraping the endings. I meant implement various endings if bioware wanted that ranged from badto a happy ending
Well, the thing is, how? How do you implement a scale of good - to - bad endings like ME2 had, if you both don't just ignore the current endings, and you won't use the IT in any form? I'm honestly curious, I can't see an answer to this.
Of course a scale of triumphant to defeat endings are what I want the most, I've said that multiple times, but it's just, how do you allow them to happen?
#41475
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:05
Aristobulus500 wrote...
If ITers get what they want, you get a real, quality ending, because that's all IT is. A way to write off literally everything bad about the current ending, and write in an entirely new ending.
To say you don't like the IT is almost literally to say you approve of the Star Child, you like the galaxy being destroyed, you find Shepard dying awesome, you think it's very fitting that the Normandy crew crashes on Eden and is stuck there.
It is absolutely absurd to me that some people want to take the contradictory stance that the ending we have is awful yet they don't like IT. You really can't have it both ways - because there's no other viable or reasonable out.
Bioware either can't or won't just straight up delete the entire last section of the game to write in a real ending, so you need something that allows them to retcon all of the bad away, to pull a good ending out of this mess. That is literally what the IT is. How do you not comprehend this, how do you not understand this?
Go ahead, try and propose a good, quality ending that actually uses the Star Child, the 3 colored endings, Shepard dying, galactic civilization being destroyed, and the Normandy crew being stranded. I dare you. This is a challenge I promise you that you can not meet - without using the IT.
Because the IT does this. It actually uses them. They are all still there, still present, just turned out to be false and then you get a real ending.
So deal with this. Either accept that you like the current ending, or realize that the IT is the only viable out. You don't have any other choices, unless you can write up a satisfying ending that uses all of the negative traits of the ending, as I said.
What is that first sentence then? It can't be a "good, quality ending" if you think it's piece of **** too. That's completely contradictory. Everything else, you write as an ultimatum and say things like "how do you not comprehend this, how do you not understand this?" I understand perfectly what IT wants to do and what it could do to the entire industry. I've thought long and hard about what IT does. How the hell am I supposed to take this post?
Second bold is you putting words into my mouth and others. Quite blantantly as well.
Third is a challenge and you say as much. A challenge that quite a number of people have met. There's even one fic that you see nearly every day in a signature that fits your challenge to the letter. Give you a hint: part of the title is Unity. Good too, so you can't say it's not done poorly.
So, write a post that's comes off as hostile, and I get hot as well. Don't sit there and try to tell me to calm down, sir. Think about what you post and how it will be received. Personally, I don't respond well to being told what to think and that's exactly what this post does.





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