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[Akernis]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Note to self: don't leave the Liara thread, there be Liara-hating monsters.

lol, you're safe here, Akernis

[Mr.House]

I still say that any Liara romancer that picks the lower option is a monster.

[Aristobulus500]

I can't even comprehend someone honestly wanting to choose the lower option, I mean what the ****? It's as cold and heartless as telling Liara you don't want to be around her in the pre-Cronos station scene.

Unless you're doing a specific **** gimmick run, I just don't get it.

[Akernis]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I can't even comprehend someone honestly wanting to choose the lower option, I mean what the ****? It's as cold and heartless as telling Liara you don't want to be around her in the pre-Cronos station scene.

Though i have not actually tried it if I recall correctly Yugi said that in the renegade line Shepard's response is something along the lines of:

"You are in no condition to continue/go on/fight" which is not as bad as I had feared from the paraphrase and at least shows some concern. 
But even so I will take the paragon line every time

Modifié par Akernis, 28 juin 2012 - 02:05 .

[Aristobulus500]

Ah, that's not nearly as bad as the text line makes it sound. Still, it doesn't have a thing on the top response - man I love that one. I really wasn't expecting this, but the work done for Liara in that scene, and in the memorial scene, really is some of the most emotional and moving moments in the series.

It doesn't beat LotSB and the pre-Cronos station scene, but it's a contender.

[adneate]

I was surprised at how perfect sounding the scene was with Shepard saying Liara was everything to her and Liara responding with "I'm yours". I swear I thought of the same exchange between them and Liara definitely is everything to my two Shepards.

It's really awesome when something that seemed to live in your head gets not only put in the game but expertly voiced by two fantastic actresses. It's got to be up there for best moment between Shepard and Liara just because of the raw emotion in the exchange.

[Mr.House]

adneate wrote...

I was surprised at how perfect sounding the scene was with Shepard saying Liara was everything to her and Liara responding with "I'm yours". I swear I thought of the same exchange between them and Liara definitely is everything to my two Shepards.

It's really awesome when something that seemed to live in your head gets not only put in the game but expertly voiced by two fantastic actresses. It's got to be up there for best moment between Shepard and Liara just because of the raw emotion in the exchange.

I love just how protective Shepard was during the scene, right from when she gets her to cover all the way to getting her to the ship and refusing to put her in more danger.

Modifié par Mr.House, 28 juin 2012 - 02:29 .

[adneate]

Mr.House wrote...
I love just how protective Shepard was during the scene, right from when she gets her to cover all the way to getting her to the ship and refusing to put her in more danger.

Indeed I like watching it since it's just great stuff. Also white and blue is the one true colour scheme, heretic!

[Mr.House]

adneate wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
I love just how protective Shepard was during the scene, right from when she gets her to cover all the way to getting her to the ship and refusing to put her in more danger.

Indeed I like watching it since it's just great stuff. Also white and blue is the one true colour scheme, heretic!

LIES! Her and Fiona have to match! I tried to put Fiona in white and blue but it looked meh.

[DOsquareZER]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Ah, that's not nearly as bad as the text line makes it sound. Still, it doesn't have a thing on the top response - man I love that one. I really wasn't expecting this, but the work done for Liara in that scene, and in the memorial scene, really is some of the most emotional and moving moments in the series.

It doesn't beat LotSB and the pre-Cronos station scene, but it's a contender.

Some people really arn't that into or comfortable with the emotionalism of "I love you's" and such soft hearted stuff all the time - they have alternate ways of expressing affection (non abusive ways, just clarifying).  Its a hard thing to conjure and/or adjust to.  Especially a shep with a ruthless background whose 15-20? years give or take used to serious mission/buisness before pleasure.  
Ionno i dont find the "renegade" response all htat cold hearted... but it is sensible - shes not trying to be a jerk just telling it like it is when Liara won't see reason when she's letting her emotions get the better of her type thing.  I can get downright ****y when i get ultra-worried or up tight, shepard could be the same when telling... no... Ordering Liara to go.

But from a paragon romance perspective... your right - nothing really beats LotSB - it will remain classic.  Pre-Cronos comes really close (the finger locking was damn awesome, the kissing animations, and when she catchs the helmet..etc etc)

adneate wrote...
I was surprised at how perfect sounding
the scene was with Shepard saying Liara was everything to her and Liara
responding with "I'm yours". I swear I thought of the same exchange
between them and Liara definitely is everything to my two Shepards.
It's
really awesome when something that seemed to live in your head gets not
only put in the game but expertly voiced by two fantastic actresses.
It's got to be up there for best moment between Shepard and Liara just
because of the raw emotion in the exchange.

Hear, Hear.  I was actually in awe when I heard the I'm yours bit and Liara holding shepard's hand on her cheek.  Ive only heard the femshep side, and the talent is...as always - pretty awesome.  Liara's "your not leaving me behind" line...again, awesome.
Then I proceeded to shake my head with a smirk and muttered "im such a sap for these two..."

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 04:01 .

[Aristobulus500]

The animations in the pre-cronos station were absolutely impressive. I've seen many games try for just one of those kinds of things, and they always **** it up and make it look mechanical or just have the models clip through eachother or just end up levitating somewhat close to eachother, it's never ever looked right in any game I've played.

But in ME, there, it all looked so right. It was very natural, and their movements fit and just really sold the scene, it really seemed like the right movements for them to make at that time. And it was just, a lot of subtle movements a real person would make, not even significant large movements videogame characters always make.

I especially really liked Liara looked down to lock hands with Shepard - such a natural movement, and I feel other games would've just had her hand float to on top of Shepards in a single movement without her looking or something.

[sharkboy421]

Mr.House wrote...

adneate wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
I love just how protective Shepard was during the scene, right from when she gets her to cover all the way to getting her to the ship and refusing to put her in more danger.

Indeed I like watching it since it's just great stuff. Also white and blue is the one true colour scheme, heretic!

LIES! Her and Fiona have to match! I tried to put Fiona in white and blue but it looked meh.

Your both wrong, its black and red .  But yes, I was floored when I saw this scene.  How Shep instantly runs to Liara's side and then helps her back to the ship.  And how Liara does not want to leave Shepard.  Its all so perfect.  And then Jennifer Hale's delievery of the paragon line, the way her voice is cracking, it was just so perfect for my Shepard and her feelings for Liara.  Liara's response was just as amazing, the pleading look in her eyes and the way she whispers "I am yours".  I'm completely gushing here but I thought the scene absolutely beautiful.

[Yuqi]

Lizardviking wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Who else here chose Control?

(It might just be me, but I swear the English Male V.A shows subtle favortisim towards Tali. Which peeved me because the Italian version actor shows favortisim with Liara.)

I did.

And what was wrong with Mark Meer's preformance during the evac scene? I thought he was pretty great. Have not heard the one with Tali, so maybe he does a better preformance there. Still thinks he does a good job in the Liara version.

He did an okay Job but it felt a bit average to me personally.(Although I'm biased, because most of my brosheps are italian.)

Most Paragon players won't hear the Renegade dialouge for the evac scene, which is a pity. It's not a curel,omg evil, it's a practical response, but also the implications of the statment 'You're in no condition to fight, Liara' is most intresting.

Liara is badly injured, but still capable of fighting. So it's possible, Shepard wasn't just talking about her injuries. 

When she said 'I'am yours' I thought of Zevran in Dao.(He says the exact same line.)

Modifié par Yuqi, 28 juin 2012 - 04:06 .

[DOsquareZER]

Yuqi wrote...
He did an okay Job but it felt a bit average to me personally.(Although I'm biased, because most of my brosheps are italian.)

Most Paragon players won't hear the Renegade dialouge for the evac scene, which is a pity. It's not a curel,omg evil, it's a practical response, but also the implications of the statment 'You're in no condition to fight, Liara' is most intresting.

Liara is badly injured, but still capable of fighting. So it's possible, Shepard wasn't just talking about her injuries. 

*steps back*
*gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasps*
Your not implying that she...   *looks around for moree and the 5B gang* dont make me say it.  No, naah cant be - my Shep wore protection!  Tinfoil hat and everything!
lol man I just took bad graphics for "serious" injuries.  Wasn't going to overanalyze anything again.

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 04:30 .

[Aristobulus500]

What the **** are you guys trying to say. I'm honestly confused and I feel I'm imagining completely different tangents than what you probably mean.

[rubynorman]

Lizardviking wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Who else here chose Control?

(It might just be me, but I swear the English Male V.A shows subtle favortisim towards Tali. Which peeved me because the Italian version actor shows favortisim with Liara.)

I did.

And what was wrong with Mark Meer's preformance during the evac scene? I thought he was pretty great. Have not heard the one with Tali, so maybe he does a better preformance there. Still thinks he does a good job in the Liara version.

You should hear Jennifer Hale's version. It's perfect.
I hear Mark Meer's version and I think it is good, but  Mark Meer's version is better in the Tali scene.

[TheDonk95]

Sorry for the delay, I was sleeping.
Once again Aristobulu, I think you are correct and I agree with you, in shortly, it is much better to have such a powerful and emotional farewell scene like what we got, even if it doesn't make too much sense because it is in the middle of a battlfefield, rather than having a farewell in the radio. It doesn't really have to make alot of sense. Alot of the things in ME don't make any sense. I just ignore these and enjoy the scenes. I don't understand how can anybody think other wise...

Modifié par TheDonk95, 28 juin 2012 - 04:26 .

[adneate]

doozer12 wrote...
Liara's "your not leaving me behind" line...again, awesome. Then I proceeded to shake my head with a smirk and muttered "im such a sap for these two..."

I know, if we both break down and buy DLC I have a feeling it will largely be because those two are in it. I mean it was the reason I bought this game in the first place. I'm hopeless when it comes to those two, they're just great.

doozer12 wrote...
Your not implying that she...

I doubt it probably more her state of mind since the Shepard that chooses that is all rawr bizness! Doesn't want someone being all emotional when they do whatever the hell they think they're going to do up there.

[Nharia1]

Nevermind.... Wasn't thinking straight.

Modifié par Nharia1, 28 juin 2012 - 04:39 .

[DOsquareZER]

adneate wrote...

doozer12 wrote...
Liara's "your not leaving me behind" line...again, awesome. Then I proceeded to shake my head with a smirk and muttered "im such a sap for these two..."

I know, if we both break down and buy DLC I have a feeling it will largely be because those two are in it. I mean it was the reason I bought this game in the first place. I'm hopeless when it comes to those two, they're just great.

Haha yea... aint that the truth. *mutters* 
Not so loud, bioware might hear it and decide to take advantage of my money again by appealing to my one and only achilles heel in regards to bioware products.  much to the dismay of all those Liara hate threads *throws head back and cackles malevolently*

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 04:39 .

[Nharia1]

doozer12 wrote...
Haha yea... aint that the truth. *mutters* 
Not so loud, bioware might hear it and decide to take advantage of my money again by appealing to my one and only achilles heel in regards to bioware products.  much to the dismay of all those Liara hate threads *throws head back and cackles malevolently*

You mean like the thread that had Liara pegged as being Indoctrinated? 

[DOsquareZER]

Nharia1 wrote...
You mean like the thread that had Liara pegged as being Indoctrinated? 

Rofl, ohhhh yeaaa... haha that one was rich -  I mean at least it was somewhat creative, and distracted from the static bleh of standard "Liara suxxor, kill liara, zomg liara BW favs" posts. 
It started out with such promise too... /sarcasm

[Yuqi]

doozer12 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...
He did an okay Job but it felt a bit average to me personally.(Although I'm biased, because most of my brosheps are italian.)

Most Paragon players won't hear the Renegade dialouge for the evac scene, which is a pity. It's not a curel,omg evil, it's a practical response, but also the implications of the statment 'You're in no condition to fight, Liara' is most intresting.

Liara is badly injured, but still capable of fighting. So it's possible, Shepard wasn't just talking about her injuries. 

*steps back*
*gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasps*
Your not implying that she...   *looks around for moree and the 5B gang* dont make me say it.  No, naah cant be - my Shep wore protection!  Tinfoil hat and everything!
lol man I just took bad graphics for "serious" injuries.  Wasn't going to overanalyze anything again.

Tinfoil hat FTW!

It's just a possibility, but it stil wouldn't surprise me if they chose that particular ' you're in no condition to fight' statement over somethign else, just so the implication was there.

@LizardViking
Why did you choose control?

Akernis wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I can't even comprehend someone honestly wanting to choose the lower option, I mean what the ****? It's as cold and heartless as telling Liara you don't want to be around her in the pre-Cronos station scene.

Though i have not actually tried it if I recall correctly Yugi said that in the renegade line Shepard's response is something along the lines of:

"You are in no condition to continue/go on/fight" which is not as bad as I had feared from the paraphrase and at least shows some concern. 
But even so I will take the paragon line every time

Sorry, but I'm not a master of the cards. 

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Yuqi wrote...

Liara is badly injured, but still capable of fighting. So it's possible, Shepard wasn't just talking about her injuries. 

When she said 'I'am yours' I thought of Zevran in Dao.(He says the exact same line.)

Uh...are you implying what I think you're implying?  

It's obvious both are injured, I had Liara and Garrus and Garru's armor looked bubbled / burnt. Liara's being the most obvious : blood splashed all over. I'd say Shep jumped the gun. Who wouldn't on seeing a dearly loved other half injured? Instead of telling them to retreat to the back lines, the Normandy was called in. Clearly, she/he wanted them out, Liara particularly, because she/he just didn't want to see her fall in front of her/him.  

bummer.... top ....

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 28 juin 2012 - 04:58 .

[DOsquareZER]

Yuqi wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...
He did an okay Job but it felt a bit average to me personally.(Although I'm biased, because most of my brosheps are italian.)

Most Paragon players won't hear the Renegade dialouge for the evac scene, which is a pity. It's not a curel,omg evil, it's a practical response, but also the implications of the statment 'You're in no condition to fight, Liara' is most intresting.

Liara is badly injured, but still capable of fighting. So it's possible, Shepard wasn't just talking about her injuries. 

*steps back*
*gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasps*
Your not implying that she...   *looks around for moree and the 5B gang* dont make me say it.  No, naah cant be - my Shep wore protection!  Tinfoil hat and everything!
lol man I just took bad graphics for "serious" injuries.  Wasn't going to overanalyze anything again.

Tinfoil hat FTW!

It's just a possibility, but it stil wouldn't surprise me if they chose that particular ' you're in no condition to fight' statement over somethign else, just so the implication was there.

*monty python narration voice* 
Blue baby theorists read the liara thread. 
There was much rejoice. 
*head desks* must of been a hole in that damned hat..(i know, i know - asari reproduction doesn't quite work that way in regards to "accidents", I jest.  horribly.)

Also - slightly OT... did the music that plays when your on the crucible talking to the catalyst and making THE CHOICE..  change a bit from vanilla ME3 ending?

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 05:18 .