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[CrazyGreggy]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Gaaaah too little blue. Anyway, think the first reunion pieces are beginning to surface...


Source

Because you and I didn't rush to put our own out last night, nono.

[Han Shot First]

Lizardviking wrote...


Don't you think they would have tried to repair her (or maybe they did not have the tools)?

I think sticking EDI's name on the wall and showing her in the montage of those that died is a clear message that EDI is gone, and there is no coming back for her.

The Star Brat's dialogue post-EC hints at the possibility of her (and the Geth) being rebuilt at some point. I think Bioware intended for that to be a bit open-ended and up for speculation rather than definitive, so EDI remains 'dead' when the credits roll. Also there is no one on the Normandy with the capabilities of rebuilding EDI. If she were rebuilt at all it would have to occur on a lab somewhere and be carried out by people who have a skillset related to artificial intelligence and robotics.

[Han Shot First]

frudi wrote...


As for flashbacks, I'm properly curious now - does she appear in any others or only when Shepard is shooting at the tube? That one could certainly be explained just as Shepard thinking of EDI because she's convinced that her (Shepard's) decision is going to cost her (EDI's) life.

There was a thread yesterday about which endings people picked and who showed up in their flashbacks. EDI seemed to be showing up in most of those who picked Destroy. I picked destroy as well and got Anderson, EDI, and then Liara. It makes sense that he would think of the two people who close to him who were or would be the most recent casualties (Anderson & EDI), and of course Liara.

[Mike Canary]

Theodoro wrote...

Mike Canary wrote...

 So I made a music video for Liara and Shepard, covering the whole Mass Effect series, and including scenes from the Extended Cut. I figured I'd share it with you guys here. The accompanying song is "Cosmic Love" by Florence +The Machine

I'd love to hear comments and just continue discussing what is probably the coolest romance in video games! 

Mass Effect 3 "Cosmic Love", a Liara/Shepard Music Video

Wow, this is one of the best Shepard and Liara tributes I've seen on YouTube. Very well synched to the music. Excellent job, I loved it!

Hey, thanks! It's great to get feedback, and I worked pretty hard on it. I wasn't sure how people would feel about the choice of music, but it turned out well I guess 

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

frudi wrote...
As for flashbacks, I'm properly curious now - does she appear in any others or only when Shepard is shooting at the tube? That one could certainly be explained just as Shepard thinking of EDI because she's convinced that her (Shepard's) decision is going to cost her (EDI's) life.

Yes. When I tried the destroy option the flashbacks when shooting the tube were Anderson-Mordin-Liara.

During Hackett's speech it was EDI-LEGION-Eve-Thane.

Proof if you doubt me is here.

You can see the subtitles that it is played during Hackett's speech.

[Han Shot First]

One other thing I like about the EC is it has so far seemed to have put an an end to the 'Hurr Durr why is Liara the only character who can't be killed' threads.

Those threads used to annoy me in that Liara could always be killed in Mass Effect 3. Most people were just unaware of it because they either didn't have a Low EMS playthrough or because the squadmates' deaths originally weren't shown. In the original Shepard just regained conciousness and the squadmates were laying dead on the ground nearby, and the bodies could be easily missed.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 juin 2012 - 04:40 .

[kumquats]

Hey, it's not like I didn't want EDI to survive somehow, but it really hit me hard when she popped up during the Hackett speech. Especially since there were rumors she can survive destroy and I had a lot of EMS.
I say: save her in headcanon or fanfiction, but I was a sad kumquats.

[Han Shot First]

If someone wants EDI to definitely survive their only options are Control or Synthesis. The Red Ending wraps up with 'Maybe she'll eventually be rebuilt. Maybe she won't.' It is a bit open-ended whereas with the other two her survival is guaranteed.

EDI's ultimate survival in the Red Ending being an unknown works for me. Head canon and fanfic can fill in those gaps, at least until Mass Effect IV comes along and establishes a post-Shepard trilogy canon.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Lizardviking wrote...

frudi wrote...
As for flashbacks, I'm properly curious now - does she appear in any others or only when Shepard is shooting at the tube? That one could certainly be explained just as Shepard thinking of EDI because she's convinced that her (Shepard's) decision is going to cost her (EDI's) life.

Yes. When I tried the destroy option the flashbacks when shooting the tube were Anderson-Mordin-Liara.

During Hackett's speech it was EDI-LEGION-Eve-Thane.

Proof if you doubt me is here.

You can see the subtitles that it is played during Hackett's speech.

I think I got EDI - Legion - Thane - Mordin for Hackett's epilogue speech.

In the slideshow, Miranda and Jack are missing so I wondered what happened to them. Weird.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

I think I got EDI - Legion - Thane - Mordin for Hackett's epilogue speech.

In the slideshow, Miranda and Jack are missing so I wondered what happened to them. Weird.

Them not showing up is a bug AFAIK,  I also do not see Zaeed in my control epilogue (perhaps that is a bug too?).

[Theodoro]

I believe the slideshows are made to fit the music, and it's more or less the same length for every high EMS ending, so unfortunately that does not seem to allow the player to see what happens to everybody. While you may see all who have died over the course of the game, there are some who are still alive that are not shown in the epilogue slides because there's no time for them all to appear. That's why I think that there are slides with a certain level of priority that are shown depending on various variables and the rest don't have the time to be put on screen.

[noxiuniversitas1]

CrazyGreggy wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Gaaaah too little blue. Anyway, think the first reunion pieces are beginning to surface...


Source

Because you and I didn't rush to put our own out last night, nono.

lol, I didn't actually rush... if anything I sat on the finished story for over 12 hours (even said in the fanfic writers' thread I was sitting on it). I always dither over publishing one-shots. I'm actually sitting on a few more

[noxiuniversitas1]

Lizardviking wrote...

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

I think I got EDI - Legion - Thane - Mordin for Hackett's epilogue speech.

In the slideshow, Miranda and Jack are missing so I wondered what happened to them. Weird.

Them not showing up is a bug AFAIK,  I also do not see Zaeed in my control epilogue (perhaps that is a bug too?).

It is a bug - Michael Gamble said so on his twitter feed.

[Akernis]

I have a little question I need some opinions on if you guys would help, though it is not related to  the EC. 

When do you guys think that Liara starts to think of Shepard as her bondmate? As soon as they have shared the joining, after the events of LotSB, after the date scene where they proclaim that they want to spend their life together or not until near the ending with the gift scene? or at some other point? 

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
lol, I didn't actually rush... if anything I sat on the finished story for over 12 hours (even said in the fanfic writers' thread I was sitting on it). I always dither over publishing one-shots. I'm actually sitting on a few more

Post them

[Han Shot First]

Akernis wrote...

I have a little question I need some opinions on if you guys would help, though it is not related to  the EC. 

When do you guys think that Liara starts to think of Shepard as her bondmate? As soon as they have shared the joining, after the events of LotSB, after the date scene where they proclaim that they want to spend their life together or not until near the ending with the gift scene? or at some other point? 

I think she starts to feel that way after LotSB. The conversation aboard the Citadel just confirms it. IIRC she says something like, "You are lucky I feel the same way too." So I think it is something she was feeling prior to the Presidium conversation, it just wasn't voiced yet.

[Theodoro]

Akernis wrote...

When do you guys think that Liara starts to think of Shepard as her bondmate? As soon as they have shared the joining, after the events of LotSB, after the date scene where they proclaim that they want to spend their life together or not until near the ending with the gift scene? or at some other point?

Unfortunately, the fact that you have to 'lock in' the romance after Mars and after the Citadel really blurs the line here as to when exactly they become bondmates to one another. I'd like to think that that's the way they start feeling for each other after LotSB, since blue babies and marriage are mentioned, even if it's in a joking manner. It's just so powerful and emotional that I can only see them have this conversation as bondmates. But I don't think they say it to one another until the date scene, but they've always known it. Romanticized, I know, but that's how I think it is.

Akernis wrote...

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
lol, I didn't actually rush... if anything I sat on the finished story for over 12 hours (even said in the fanfic writers' thread I was sitting on it). I always dither over publishing one-shots. I'm actually sitting on a few more

Post them

Agreed. Post them now!

Modifié par Theodoro, 28 juin 2012 - 06:03 .

[Han Shot First]

But I don't think they say it to one another until the date scene, but they've always known it. Romanticized, I know, but that's how I think it is.

I think that is realistic.

I think for most people who have been in love with someone at some point in their lives, you don't really voice it at the moment you first realize it. That reveal is kind of big deal, so I think people tend to wait for when the timing is right and also when they are reasonably certain the other person is on the same page.

[moreeman06]

kumquats wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Why should she be dead? I can accept her body is dead, okey. But her body is only an avatar. She said this herself. Her body can only function with the Normandy in range because her real self is still inside the Normandys core or bluebox ...

Because I don't think that anyone would put EDI on the memorial wall, with everyone who died, just because the EVA body got destroyed.

well what i was thinking when i stated the question originally was that the Blue Box would still be mostly intact although something like the RAM or whatever its equivalent is in the ME Universe would be damaged meaning that they wouldn't be able to activate EDI so for all they know she is dead.  But I still think you would be able to repair her fully although she might have a bit of amnesia about the battle because of the RAM getting fried.   I mean if they can rebuild/repair the Citadel and the Relays how hard would it be to repair something that is only partially reaper tech and not completely Reaper Tech.  and yes i believe that her personality and memory would basically be intact minus from whatever point in the battle her Ram contained

[Aristobulus500]

I think Liara doesn't really think of Shepard as a bondmate until LotSB. She's certainly in love with him in ME1, but she can't be sure of how serious Shepard takes the relationship with her, and how much he wants to be with her, until LotSB where he makes it very clear he doesn't just consider her a fling and that she is actually very important to him, considering by this point he's had ample opportunities to break it off and move on.

And this shows in the dialogue, with how casually she just talks about aspects of their relationship and the future, with the way she mentions blue babies and such. It's in a joking manner, but not in a way that the idea of having babies and a future like that with Shepard is a joke - it's very much meant to show that she does desire that with Shepard.

[Robhuzz]

Unfortunately, the fact that you have to 'lock in' the romance after Mars and after the Citadel really blurs the line here as to when exactly they become bondmates to one another. I'd like to think that that's the way they start feeling for each other after LotSB, since blue babies and marriage are mentioned, even if it's in a joking manner. It's just so powerful and emotional that I can only see them have this conversation as bondmates. But I don't think they say it to one another until the date scene, but they've always known it. Romanticized, I know, but that's how I think it is.

I feel you should not take that scene too literally. Sure there's the lock in moment but that's mostly from the player point of view. For Liara I think she really starts considering Shepard to be her bondmate after Lotsb in the Cabin scene. Before that they were incredibly close of course but not THAT close.

The citadel scene is really the one where she just confirms that she wants to spend the rest of her life with Shepard. That to me is as good as saying she considers Shepard to be her bondmate already. In the end it doesn't matter however, because they feel that way about eachother now, and now is the first real time they can truly be together since meeting eachother almost 3 years ago.

What I would've loved to see in a reunion scene is a nice reference to the Lotsb cabin scene. I pictured Liara visiting Shepard in hospital and saying she can't believe Shepard is still alive, with Shepard asking Liara if she doesn't remember what he said before... about always coming back. Would certainly put a smile on my face.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 28 juin 2012 - 05:59 .

[Arcataye]

Lair of the Shadow Broker unpacked: 1.87 GB
Extended Cut unpacked: 2.38 GB

LotSB had way more content in my opinion, even tho the EC movie files alone are 1.30 GB I still wonder why. Bad compressing?

Modifié par Arcataye, 28 juin 2012 - 06:01 .

[Akernis]

Thanks guys that was just what I needed