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[Silasqtx]

Akernis wrote...

Thanks guys that was just what I needed

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Loved both beam and "dafuq am I doing with this plaque, he's alive let's go find him" scenes.

[kann.nix9mm]

Lizardviking wrote...

kumquats wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Why should she be dead? I can accept her body is dead, okey. But her body is only an avatar. She said this herself. Her body can only function with the Normandy in range because her real self is still inside the Normandys core or bluebox ...

Because I don't think that anyone would put EDI on the memorial wall, with everyone who died, just because the EVA body got destroyed.

I think the destroy wave would kill EDI as a whole, not just her body.

And there is my problem. To be an synthetic is more then zeros and ones its about, how do i put this, its about construction parts and something like this. The core of the Normandy is just some hardware with experimental software. She is still a programm, its just electrizity (was that right? ^^). If that explosion did really destroy her why didnt it destroy the cores of all the other ships? Still makes no sense in my point of view ...

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

kumquats wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Why should she be dead? I can accept her body is dead, okey. But her body is only an avatar. She said this herself. Her body can only function with the Normandy in range because her real self is still inside the Normandys core or bluebox ...

Because I don't think that anyone would put EDI on the memorial wall, with everyone who died, just because the EVA body got destroyed.

I think the destroy wave would kill EDI as a whole, not just her body.

And there is my problem. To be an synthetic is more then zeros and ones its about, how do i put this, its about construction parts and something like this. The core of the Normandy is just some hardware with experimental software. She is still a programm, its just electrizity (was that right? ^^). If that explosion did really destroy her why didnt it destroy the cores of all the other ships? Still makes no sense in my point of view ...

I think it is mentioned in low EMS that the crucible in that case is so damaged that the energy wave is unrefined and therefor will destroy everything.

I guess high EMS means that it will only damage synthethics? Somehow?

[kann.nix9mm]

GreenFlag wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Yeah ... with low EMS you get the killing scene, with high the evac scene ...

But I thinking about evac scene.
Someone can say: "Why Harb doesn't shot to Normandy, it's no sense."
And I actually say: "It doesn't matter, but from my point of view Harb is too busy to shotting on Makos and soldiers."

And her is the problem. He isnt doing a damn thing. Yeah you see at one point a red explosion but no reaperlaser. The entire time you see and you hear nothing of it. Harbi is just idle watching. And yes you can here the marines shooting. There is no logical explanation to not hearing the laser ... So, what the hell is he doing? Is he thinking "oh, Shepard is busy ... I will just wait. The other guys can do what they want .." ...

[Han Shot First]

My impression was that during the course of Mass Effect 1 Liara and Shepard start to care a great deal about each other, but aren't necessarily in love yet. They are just beginning a relationship and haven't reached that point yet. At some point during those few weeks between Mass Effect 1 and the destruction of the Normandy SR1, Liara starts to fall in love with Shepard. Before Liara (or Shepard) gets a chance to voice that, the destruction of the Normandy occurs and Shepard is killed.

Liara then has two years to deal with grief and builds a wall around herself, initially being reluctant to get back into a relationship with Shepard for fear of having to go through that grief all over again. She is also unsure about how Shepard feels about the Lazarus Project, and whether or not Shepard resents the fact that she turned his body over to Cerberus.

Then LotSB happens.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 juin 2012 - 06:12 .

[kann.nix9mm]

Lizardviking wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

kumquats wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Why should she be dead? I can accept her body is dead, okey. But her body is only an avatar. She said this herself. Her body can only function with the Normandy in range because her real self is still inside the Normandys core or bluebox ...

Because I don't think that anyone would put EDI on the memorial wall, with everyone who died, just because the EVA body got destroyed.

I think the destroy wave would kill EDI as a whole, not just her body.

And there is my problem. To be an synthetic is more then zeros and ones its about, how do i put this, its about construction parts and something like this. The core of the Normandy is just some hardware with experimental software. She is still a programm, its just electrizity (was that right? ^^). If that explosion did really destroy her why didnt it destroy the cores of all the other ships? Still makes no sense in my point of view ...

I think it is mentioned in low EMS that the crucible in that case is so damaged that the energy wave is unrefined and therefor will destroy everything.

I guess high EMS means that it will only damage synthethics? Somehow?

But EDI isnt a real synthetic. That body is only an avatar.
ofc i meant with high EMS. WIth low it makes perfect sense. Hacketts ship is stuck somewhere, Normandy too. But with high EMS? Or let me guess, another part for the bad writing wall ... thats way to many ...

Modifié par kann.nix9mm, 28 juin 2012 - 06:10 .

[Arcataye]

I too felt it's in LotSB. And I really loved that she finally said it out loud in London.

"With good friends... or their bondmates."
And the way she smiles right after saying the word.

Modifié par Arcataye, 28 juin 2012 - 06:13 .

[Han Shot First]

And her is the problem. He isnt doing a damn thing. Yeah you see at one point a red explosion but no reaperlaser. The entire time you see and you hear nothing of it. Harbi is just idle watching. And yes you can here the marines shooting. There is no logical explanation to not hearing the laser ... So, what the hell is he doing? Is he thinking "oh, Shepard is busy ... I will just wait. The other guys can do what they want .." ...

You can actually hear the impact of Harbinger's shots in that scene, so he is still firing. The sound effects just become lower and more distant just in time for Shepard and Liara to talk. (welcome to tropeville)

I think a plausible explanation for Harbinger not firing at the Normandy however is that he had more pressing concerns with the tanks, gunships and dismounted infantry being close to the beam. The Normandy at the moment was not assisting the push and only evacuating wounded, which doesn't make it a priority target. Additionally Anderson was still among the ground team. He'd be just as valuable to Harbinger dead as Shepard, though whether or not Harbinger knew Anderson was there is up for speculation.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 juin 2012 - 06:13 .

[Akernis]

kann.nix9mm wrote...

And there is my problem. To be an synthetic is more then zeros and ones its about, how do i put this, its about construction parts and something like this. The core of the Normandy is just some hardware with experimental software. She is still a programm, its just electrizity (was that right? ^^). If that explosion did really destroy her why didnt it destroy the cores of all the other ships? Still makes no sense in my point of view ...

Don't think to hard about it, space magic is a plot device, it does what the writers wants, when and how they want it and damn the logic.

EDI and the Geth dies because otherwise there would be no point in choosing anything but Destroy. It is a cheap shot but that is.

And I stand by my headcanon that says they survived, it should be really easy  for one the most advanced pieces of technology to target/affect Reapers  only.

Entirely Biological (plants, animals, most individuals) - Ignore
Biological with cybernetics (Biotics, Quarians, etc.) - Ignore
Entirely Synthetic (Geth, EDI, ships, most technology) - Ignore

Bio-Synthetic contruction (Reapers, husks) - Kill

Modifié par Akernis, 28 juin 2012 - 06:21 .

[kann.nix9mm]

Han Shot First wrote...

And her is the problem. He isnt doing a damn thing. Yeah you see at one point a red explosion but no reaperlaser. The entire time you see and you hear nothing of it. Harbi is just idle watching. And yes you can here the marines shooting. There is no logical explanation to not hearing the laser ... So, what the hell is he doing? Is he thinking "oh, Shepard is busy ... I will just wait. The other guys can do what they want .." ...

You can actually hear the impact of Harbinger's shots in that scene, so he is still firing. The sound effects just become lower and more distant just in time for Shepard and Liara to talk. (welcome to tropeville)

I think a plausible explanation for Harbinger not firing at the Normandy however is that he had more pressing concerns with the tanks, gunships and dismounted infantry being close to the beam. The Normandy at the moment was not assisting the push and only evacuating wounded, which doesn't make it a priority target. Additionally Anderson was still among the ground team. He'd be just as valuable to Harbinger dead as Shepard, though whether or not Harbinger knew Anderson was there is up for speculation.

Yeah you hear an explosion. ONE! The one when you leave the cover of the Mako, After that you hear explosion as well, but you cant say they are from the reaperlweapon. Everytime before you could hear the weapon. But not now? Because they focused the conversation? You can hear the weaponfire of the marines, so, why not the ones from harbi? His weapon is damn loud. Something like this you CANT just miss. And btw. you can see the push to the beam stopped. It stopped when Shep and CO retreat to the Normandy ...

[lillitheris]

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

kumquats wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

Why should she be dead? I can accept her body is dead, okey. But her body is only an avatar. She said this herself. Her body can only function with the Normandy in range because her real self is still inside the Normandys core or bluebox ...

Because I don't think that anyone would put EDI on the memorial wall, with everyone who died, just because the EVA body got destroyed.

I think the destroy wave would kill EDI as a whole, not just her body.

And there is my problem. To be an synthetic is more then zeros and ones its about, how do i put this, its about construction parts and something like this.

To be synthetic is to be artificial

For “Unity”, I decreed the energy wave to target specific software, firmware, and hardware signatures. It ‘knows’ the Reaper signatures so those will be targeted. In addition, it has some heuristics for typical AI signature patterns (guessed or maybe collected throughout the years).

I shan’t spoil my take on the consequences…it’s mostly explained in the early chapters.

[kann.nix9mm]

Akernis wrote...

kann.nix9mm wrote...

And there is my problem. To be an synthetic is more then zeros and ones its about, how do i put this, its about construction parts and something like this. The core of the Normandy is just some hardware with experimental software. She is still a programm, its just electrizity (was that right? ^^). If that explosion did really destroy her why didnt it destroy the cores of all the other ships? Still makes no sense in my point of view ...

Don't think to hard about it, space magic is a plot device, it does what the writers wants, when and how they want it and damn the logic.

EDI and the Geth dies because otherwise there would be no point in choosing anything but Destroy. It is a cheap shot but that is.

And I stand by my headcanon that says they survived, it should be really easy  for one the most advanced pieces of technology to target/affect Reapers  only.

Entirely Biological (plants, animals, most individuals) - Ignore
Biological with cybernetics (Biotics, Quarians, etc.) - Ignore
Entirely Synthetic (Geth, EDI, ships, most technology) - Ignore

Bio-Synthetic contruction (Reapers, husks) - Kill

Spacemagic is just another way of bad writing ... its the worst kind. I can except the Geth plattforms dying, i can except the Avatar of EDI dying. But the programms? And btw. Tali said something about several Quarians excepting GethAIs in their suits. WHats happening with them? Only progremms remember.
Yeah, my headcanon is destroy with surviving them all. But i cannot except bad writing for all that ****. They made Kotor, BG and so on. What in Gods sake did EA do to them to drop so much in quality?

[DOsquareZER]

kann.nix9mm wrote...
Yeah you hear an explosion. ONE! The one when you leave the cover of the Mako, After that you hear explosion as well, but you cant say they are from the reaperlweapon. Everytime before you could hear the weapon. But not now? Because they focused the conversation? You can hear the weaponfire of the marines, so, why not the ones from harbi? His weapon is damn loud. Something like this you CANT just miss. And btw. you can see the push to the beam stopped. It stopped when Shep and CO retreat to the Normandy ...

Really... this bugs you? ... *scratchs head* ok.

Bolded the answer to your own issue.
Dialogue.  You can not hear it, Liara and shep are kind of soft spoken for paragon lines (male shep anyways).  Had to tone it down (not get rid of it entirely) for the sappy romance scene to have the full effect.  Harbys honks and weapons perhaps made it too loud - dont know, dont really care at this point anymore.  Its fictional entertainment not realism.
The march of the men still move forward - speculation, some stop to see wtf shepard is doing Im sure or are too terrfied to push forward and take cover behind whatever they can find - but theres really no point in inserting more data packets into the EC for background drama to be happening while the thing they want you to pay attention to happens.  The camera positions after getting Liara/crew on normandy doesn't really show anything anyways, maybe a glitchy mako in the background - whoop de doo.

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 06:57 .

[Tealjaker94]

Sharing the wealth from the story and campaign section.

[Tealjaker94]

frudi wrote...

*snip*
by mallyxable 

edit: lol @  Tealjaker94

Let's be honest, this picture deserves multiple posts.

[Arcataye]

frudi wrote...

Arcataye wrote...

I too felt it's in LotSB. And I really loved that she finally said it out loud in London.

"With good friends... or their bondmates."
And the way she smiles right after saying the word.

You're welcome  

And then...





And I like how she smiles before the meld, but when she starts it her face looks just a bit more blank. Like she's in another world. Well yeah she is.

[DOsquareZER]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

frudi wrote...

*snip*
by mallyxable 

edit: lol @  Tealjaker94

Let's be honest, this picture deserves multiple posts.

Agreed.

Edit:  Also whoever asked where this image was from a few pages back ---

its over yonder http://ask-marie-shepard.tumblr.com/

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 07:04 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

doozer12 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

frudi wrote...

*snip*
by mallyxable 

edit: lol @  Tealjaker94

Let's be honest, this picture deserves multiple posts.

Agreed.

[Aristobulus500]

Man, I still find the Asari ability to go all black eyed for a meld absolutely fascinating. It really is just an incredibly exotic and alien ability and thing to do.

[TheDonk95]

AnnikaShepard wrote...

TheDonk95 wrote...

AnnikaShepard wrote...

 I know you've been talking about this all the time but I just have to write this anyway.

The evacuation scene with Liara is so emotional that it made me cry. So beautiful, sad, so honest. I had to stop the game and just cry for a while. The look on her face...
I thought nothing could be sadder than that until the last scene at the memorial wall was played. Then I just cried my eyes out. For me destroying the Reapers is the one and only option, so Liara being really sad at first and then the ''Shepard is still alive somewhere'' -look really brought up feelings. Absolutely beautiful.
Thanks Bioware for fixing the endings.

I hear you bro. I cried the first three times I watched that scene, and I still tear everytime I do, or even seeing Liara's sad expressions in that scene. I cry alot of times in video games/books/movies/ real life. I'm an emotiona guy.

And thanks for trying to cheer me up, Jen, but I can't help it

I've been really sad past two days now, thanks to Liara's expressions even though I really liked the ending.
I cried a little when Anderson died and when Thane died as well, but the new scenes with the EC: no words to describe the emotional pain. I miss Liara so much.

I'm an emotional gal.

You won
But with all seriousness, it's good knowing you're not the only person here who gets emotional easily

God I hate missing discussions..

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http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8004/liara.png [/img]

The images don't work again...<_<

Modifié par TheDonk95, 28 juin 2012 - 07:16 .

[Akernis]

Picture repost spam

Tealjaker94 wrote...

That is wonderful

Arcataye wrote...

frudi wrote...

And I so love all three of these

frudi wrote...
I always loved how Liara looks with the black eyes. I still prefer her with her gorgeous and more expressive blue eyes, but there's just something special and exotic about her when her "eyes do that freaky black eternity thing". 

Exactly my thoughts

Modifié par Akernis, 28 juin 2012 - 07:22 .