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[TheDonk95]

^ Thanks man! Sorry for my ignorance..
I love those pictures so much, especially the short scene in the ending of Liara, I have to say, that if I had to choose my favorite and most memorable reaction from the entire series, it will be this 2 seconds clip. I love it so much, and I'm filled with both sadness and happines when I see it.

[Arcataye]

frudi wrote...

Well, these two pictures where expressly saved to my hdd . Especially the second one, I always loved how Liara looks with the black eyes. I still prefer her with her gorgeous and more expressive blue eyes, but there's just something special and exotic about her when her "eyes do that freaky black eternity thing". 

Well it can't be the exact same one.
But yep, love it. It's just so... alien?

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Man, I still find the Asari ability to go all black eyed for a meld absolutely fascinating. It really is just an incredibly exotic and alien ability and thing to do.

Yeah, same here. I can't think of any alien ability as interesting as the melding, at least nothing comes to my mind right now.

Modifié par Arcataye, 28 juin 2012 - 07:31 .

[PMC65]

Wow this thread has been busy ...

Smackface gunfight scene seems to be a topic that is dividing the crowd ... I must confess that it made me roll my eyes and laugh when I saw it. The Normandy landing there in the middle of all that? So I just rewrote that scene in my head to a shuttle landing with reinforcements and picking up the wounded before they left ... Shepard and Liara had a much quicker goodbye but it seemed longer because of adrenaline and all. The old man telling the story just got that part wrong ... problem with scene for me was solved!

Refusal option made me sad but was really the only way that scene should have played out. It is Shepard refusing to use the crucible and in the end the reapers won yet again. I did choke up when it then showed Liara talking about how it had not worked, how they had failed ... No Liara, it would have worked but Shepard walked away feeling good about herself ... feeling free and all. And no, you did not fail ... Shepard did.

Benedict Arnold DLC (Rogue Reaper)? Don't like traitors so no ... would not buy DLC.

Liked EDI in ME2 but not in ME3 ... It was all that Joker romance part that killed her and him for me. Dumb idea.

Bondmates? Each had their moments when they knew that they loved one another but it wasn't voiced at those moments. Liara realized much faster than EW Shepard ... Think Ruth when she realized that she loved Iggy in Fried Green Tomatoes - she didn't tell Iggy why she was crying which made it more real and beautiful to me.

But these comments above are how I feel and not intended to indoctrinate or demand that others agree ... As it should be.

Loved this f1r3storm ... My two favs together!


Now off to that hike I put off to catch up ... I'll catch up again when I get back.

[fesaefwe]

I like Liara over all the others because unlike Tali and Ash, Liara actually saves your life multiple times, Liara always has sheps back even when ash and tali had moved on with their life. To me, I like Liaras dedication, I admire that in any woman.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...

Wow this thread has been busy ...

Smackface gunfight scene seems to be a topic that is dividing the crowd ... I must confess that it made me roll my eyes and laugh when I saw it. The Normandy landing there in the middle of all that? So I just rewrote that scene in my head to a shuttle landing with reinforcements and picking up the wounded before they left ... Shepard and Liara had a much quicker goodbye but it seemed longer because of adrenaline and all. The old man telling the story just got that part wrong ... problem with scene for me was solved!

Having shuttles be the one to pick them up would make the scene less silly.

The only problem that would cause is that it would mean the Normandy is still enganged in the fleet battle, and would a shuttle really drop off people who needed critical medical attention on a frigate in battle that was most likely constantly on the move?

Refusal option made me sad but was really the only way that scene should have played out. It is Shepard refusing to use the crucible and in the end the reapers won yet again. I did choke up when it then showed Liara talking about how it had not worked, how they had failed ... No Liara, it would have worked but Shepard walked away feeling good about herself ... feeling free and all. And no, you did not fail ... Shepard did.

While I am glad people who wanted to reject the choices finally could so. The only time I would ever consider it would be if my only option was low-EMS destroy.

[AlexMBrennan]

The only problem that would cause is that it would mean the Normandy is still enganged in the fleet battle, and would a shuttle really drop off people who needed critical medical attention on a frigate in battle that was most likely constantly on the move?

You're quite right - these aspects are beyond salvaging. Given that there is no particular reason to put them on the Normandy in the first place (if you didn't want them stuck on that random planet), why not just cut it? They get separated from Shepard when that beam hits and fall back as ordered by Coats. Yet another simple fix that would have been possible if it hadn't been for Bioware's pride.

And yeah, maybe I've played to much Diablo 3 this week.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

The only problem that would cause is that it would mean the Normandy is still enganged in the fleet battle, and would a shuttle really drop off people who needed critical medical attention on a frigate in battle that was most likely constantly on the move?

You're quite right - these aspects are beyond salvaging. Given that there is no particular reason to put them on the Normandy in the first place (if you didn't want them stuck on that random planet), why not just cut it? They get separated from Shepard when that beam hits and fall back as ordered by Coats. Yet another simple fix that would have been possible if it hadn't been for Bioware's pride.

I think it goes to show that they did not have any original explanation for how your squadmates ended up on the Normandy. That they really did not truly think certain aspects of the ending through.

But atleast this new scene explaining it is emotional, so that gives it some merit.

[Arcataye]

PMC65 wrote...


Refusal option made me sad but was really the only way that scene should have played out. It is Shepard refusing to use the crucible and in the end the reapers won yet again. I did choke up when it then showed Liara talking about how it had not worked, how they had failed ... No Liara, it would have worked but Shepard walked away feeling good about herself ... feeling free and all. And no, you did not fail ... Shepard did.

It was great to see Liara's memory capsule finally have a purpose.
But I wonder what color the next cycle chose? I guess Synthesis as the kid asks "And that's why we have peace?" -peace with the Reapers?

[DevilBeast]

Han Shot First wrote...

If someone wants EDI to definitely survive their only options are Control or Synthesis. The Red Ending wraps up with 'Maybe she'll eventually be rebuilt. Maybe she won't.' It is a bit open-ended whereas with the other two her survival is guaranteed.

EDI's ultimate survival in the Red Ending being an unknown works for me. Head canon and fanfic can fill in those gaps, at least until Mass Effect IV comes along and establishes a post-Shepard trilogy canon.

Hmmm... I doubt it would be possible to rebuild EDI exactly as she was without a lot of retconing. The codex doesn´t really work in her favor from what it says about A.I.s , and that is only if the files are intact which I highly doubt they are.
But people can headcanon whatever they want if it makes them feel better about the whole ordeal.

[Grubas]

i know its to early for this but here is something new!

"I don't want any tentacled creature inside your mind... except me."

[Goku16]

liara and ashley die in this

[lillitheris]

Lizardviking wrote...

While I am glad people who wanted to reject the choices finally could so. The only time I would ever consider it would be if my only option was low-EMS destroy.

Refuse is a romantic ending.

By which I mean it sounds nice and lofty to reject all reaper stuffs, so long as you can ignore the part where your friends and lover spend the rest of their relatively short lives in constant pain, dread, and grief, numbers ever-dwindling, on the run, knowing they’re going to lose and it’s only a matter of time before an unkind death.

It’s in every way worse than even a low-EMS Destroy…that’s at least a quicker death.

The only case in which I could see it is if RP’ing not believing the Catalyst.

[TMA LIVE]

lillitheris wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

While I am glad people who wanted to reject the choices finally could so. The only time I would ever consider it would be if my only option was low-EMS destroy.

Refuse is a romantic ending.

By which I mean it sounds nice and lofty to reject all reaper stuffs, so long as you can ignore the part where your friends and lover spend the rest of their relatively short lives in constant pain, dread, and grief, numbers ever-dwindling, on the run, knowing they’re going to lose and it’s only a matter of time before an unkind death.

It’s in every way worse than even a low-EMS Destroy…that’s at least a quicker death.

The only case in which I could see it is if RP’ing not believing the Catalyst.

Yeah, instead of sacrificing the geth to kill the Reapers, you sacrifice everyone based on a moral stand, and blind faith that you might beat them, or everyone dies trying.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 juin 2012 - 09:32 .

[AlexMBrennan]

not believing the Catalyst.

Shepard knows that they can't win conventionally (he told this at every turn by Hacket, Liara, etc), so it comes down to this: Catalyst gives you a button, and you lose if you do not press it. You may or may not lose if you do decide to press it. Would you press the button?

[DOsquareZER]

lillitheris wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

While I am glad people who wanted to reject the choices finally could so. The only time I would ever consider it would be if my only option was low-EMS destroy.

Refuse is a romantic ending.

By which I mean it sounds nice and lofty to reject all reaper stuffs, so long as you can ignore the part where your friends and lover spend the rest of their relatively short lives in constant pain, dread, and grief, numbers ever-dwindling, on the run, knowing they’re going to lose and it’s only a matter of time before an unkind death.

It’s in every way worse than even a low-EMS Destroy…that’s at least a quicker death.

The only case in which I could see it is if RP’ing not believing the Catalyst.

Pretty much this.  I hated the catalyst - trust me i did but given the "choice" with the refuse and its consequences after being told and shown the reapers can't be beaten conventionally...it was up to shepard to bite the bullet (or die and let the next cycle choose a color), sacrifice integrity and all her principles, take a huge frakin' risk and make the tri-colour choice, and beat herself up over it later for going against everything she thought she stood for.  At least the galaxy doesn't have to pay the price for it, just shep.  I view refuse much the same way I view synthesis (only with a lot less disgust).. but im still forcing an unfortunate and possibly needless situation on an entire galaxy all for the sake of one individuals (shepards) moral integrity, listening to reckless emotion(s) rather than ruthless "logic" and common sense when analyzing the data we had at hand...(im not using IT)

Yea no.  As much as it wouldve hurt and drove my shepard insane afterwards, at least she'd be the only one paying for it. The catalyst made sure to torturously wound my shepard before his demise by forcing the action of picking one of his options though...little sadistic bastard.

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 10:42 .

[Yuqi]

TMA LIVE wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

While I am glad people who wanted to reject the choices finally could so. The only time I would ever consider it would be if my only option was low-EMS destroy.

Refuse is a romantic ending.

By which I mean it sounds nice and lofty to reject all reaper stuffs, so long as you can ignore the part where your friends and lover spend the rest of their relatively short lives in constant pain, dread, and grief, numbers ever-dwindling, on the run, knowing they’re going to lose and it’s only a matter of time before an unkind death.

It’s in every way worse than even a low-EMS Destroy…that’s at least a quicker death.

The only case in which I could see it is if RP’ing not believing the Catalyst.

Yeah, instead of sacrificing the geth to kill the Reapers, you sacrifice everyone based on a moral stand, and blind faith that you might beat them, or everyone dies trying.

Sounds like something a pure Paragon would do.(Dodges Tomatoes.)

Has anyone uploaded the evac scene with freckleshep yet? If so could someone share a link.

[Grubas]

Grubas wrote...

i know its to early for this but here is something new!

"I don't want any tentacled creature inside your mind... except me."

Guys/gurls i said this is new. dammit. looking for attention.

[DOsquareZER]

Yuqi wrote...

Sounds like something a pure Paragon would do.(Dodges Tomatoes.)

*snickers*
*high fives yuqi*

Grubas wrote...
i know its to early for this but here is something new!
"I don't want any tentacled creature inside your mind... except me."
Guys/gurls i said this is new. dammit. looking for attention.

So i guess a threesome with aria is out of the question huh....*sighs* very well.

Modifié par doozer12, 28 juin 2012 - 10:15 .

[Arcataye]

Grubas wrote...

Guys/gurls i said this is new. dammit. looking for attention.

We "talked" about it a few pages back already, like 10 or 20.

[Barquiel]

TMA LIVE wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

While I am glad people who wanted to reject the choices finally could so. The only time I would ever consider it would be if my only option was low-EMS destroy.

Refuse is a romantic ending.

By which I mean it sounds nice and lofty to reject all reaper stuffs, so long as you can ignore the part where your friends and lover spend the rest of their relatively short lives in constant pain, dread, and grief, numbers ever-dwindling, on the run, knowing they’re going to lose and it’s only a matter of time before an unkind death.

It’s in every way worse than even a low-EMS Destroy…that’s at least a quicker death.

The only case in which I could see it is if RP’ing not believing the Catalyst.

Yeah, instead of sacrificing the geth to kill the Reapers, you sacrifice everyone based on a moral stand, and blind faith that you might beat them, or everyone dies trying.

My Shep would never pick "refusal", but here is an interesting article about it...

http://www.forbes.co...of-mass-effect/

[Apathy1989]

So what has been the Liaramancers response to EC? Looking forward to blue babies?

Is Liaras goodbye as tear wrenching as Talis?

[Grub Killer8016]

I was caught surprise by Liara in ME1. I went for her and stayed with her in all ME games. To be honest, if I were alive in the ME universe, she'd be my girl

[PMC65]

Goku16 wrote...

liara and ashley die in this

That was sad to watch but at least the Liara can't die complaint is really now void ... she can and does if you want. Of course, I'm not holding my breath that this makes them happy. They will counter that she can't die sooner though or you have to have low EMS or [put complaint here]. Oh, well. Life goes on. 

EDIT: top of page? Aaargh!


firsthour.net

Modifié par PMC65, 28 juin 2012 - 10:29 .

[Akernis]

Apathy1989 wrote...
So what has been the Liaramancers response to EC?

Better than without it, generally an extremely happy response with the evac scene (or Liara's part in it, even if some likes to complain about some illogical points about the normandy) and the not-quite-putting-the-plaque-on-the-wall scene. Highly annoyed that we did not get a reunion scene, but most of use are getting good at headcanon and imagining by now and this time they even made it easy for us with the Normandy take-off.

Apathy1989 wrote...
Looking forward to blue babies?

Yes, even if we did not see it.

Apathy1989 wrote...
Is Liaras goodbye as tear wrenching as Talis?

I have not seen Tali's but Liara's were absolutely phenomenal, so beautifully emotional