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Choco Liara! Thanks to Aislinn Trista! :D

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weikle21 wrote...

 Ok, so when i seen this video, i immediately thought of the perfect ending to Liara and femShep's relationship.  I wish they'd put that song as like the "ending" scene where femShep and Liara are finally able to live there lives together and the screen goes black as they set off! God, i'd love that =).  That is my comment by the way ;)

How about Mass Effect just stick to original music instead of paying just for one song for one romance option?

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weikle21 wrote...

 Ok, so when i seen this video, i immediately thought of the perfect ending to Liara and femShep's relationship.  I wish they'd put that song as like the "ending" scene where femShep and Liara are finally able to live there lives together and the screen goes black as they set off! God, i'd love that =).  That is my comment by the way ;)


I'd rather they put in one of Clint Mansell's specially composed music for Mass Effect 3 than use an existing song. As for the final shots, I don't believe Liara and Shepard will really settle down in one place, rather they'd most likely live somewhere but travel around the galaxy all the time. I'd love some shots of Liara and Shepard in casual adventure clothing entering some strange ruins on a grassy planet. Then a shot of the two of them shopping on the citadel, one of their house etc etc. This would really show us they're together but not sitting still but actually doing something with their time together.


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Very nice picture. I love chocolate. And Liara of course...^_^

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I'm hoping the end of your LI story will be a montage of their future together, kinda like what they did at the end of Scrubs (if anyone remembers that one)
Would be a fitting finale to such an epic story too

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PseudoEthnic wrote...

weikle21 wrote...

 Ok, so when i seen this video, i immediately thought of the perfect ending to Liara and femShep's relationship.  I wish they'd put that song as like the "ending" scene where femShep and Liara are finally able to live there lives together and the screen goes black as they set off! God, i'd love that =).  That is my comment by the way ;)

How about Mass Effect just stick to original music instead of paying just for one song for one romance option?

I'd rather the music change because the dymantics of each game changes and the music should reflect that. 

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ladyvader wrote...

PseudoEthnic wrote...

weikle21 wrote...

 Ok, so when i seen this video, i immediately thought of the perfect ending to Liara and femShep's relationship.  I wish they'd put that song as like the "ending" scene where femShep and Liara are finally able to live there lives together and the screen goes black as they set off! God, i'd love that =).  That is my comment by the way ;)

How about Mass Effect just stick to original music instead of paying just for one song for one romance option?

I'd rather the music change because the dymantics of each game changes and the music should reflect that. 


OMG EVERYBODY! Calm down. lol I didn't really want it in the game. Of course i want it to have composed music. Just maybe a tribute video, like that one. Just thinking about how i envisioned an ending when i saw/heard the video damn.

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Choco Liara! Thanks to Aislinn Trista! :D


Nom nom nom. I love chocolate! Thank you :lol:

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I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?


Depends. A pure renegade is a racist trying to make humanity take over, so I guess a pure paragon is more fitting with her. But I think Liara would be best with a paragade or a renegon.

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The way I did it with my renegon is kind of similar to the relationship with Professor X and Megneto in First class, expect add love instead of friendship. Shepard has done a lot of horrible things, but for reasonable reasons (though some unreasonable or questionable). And Liara can go inside her head, feels everything she's been through, and still loves the person inside. She sees the pain, and wants to help Shepard through it. But Shepard won't let her, and going in the opposite direction. She keeps pushing her away.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 21 juin 2011 - 11:57 .


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nice pic
still working on ME2 continuation of my playthrough from me1

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?


I think what TMA said makes good sense.  Obviously a full renegade Shep by necessity probably wouldn't want much to do with Liara...

I like my paragade Shep with Liara. Noble, good intentions, but has made some sketchy decisions in the past, and I think that "melds" well with what BW has given us as canon Liara. Makes them similar on some level and able to relate to and support eachother. ^_^

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I got up to the romance with Miranda, but then did Shadow Broker and thought "this is wrong".  So I told Liara to come over, told Miranda we couldn't do it, and went on.  Do you think it will count for anything in the next game?  I mean Miranda and I never had sex, and prior to the suicide mission, Liara's picture was still face-up, so I hope/think it counts as staying loyal.

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It's odd her transformation from ME1 to ME2. From naive research scientist who doesn't like being around people to an underworld information broker. To be honest it was a very unrealistic leap, one which kinda ruined any kind of immersion into her story and background. By then I was kinda, "ok, whatever, sure ...".

I do love her personality in ME1 and if she was human would be the number one choice each time.


Well, you have to consider that she went from a scientist who worked in isolation to working on Shep's team, which really changed her.  And then she was working in society for two years.  After not being a social person for so long, and then being thrust into society, she's going to change.

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I cheated once out of curiosity, but she took it so well I felt bad. Haven't had the heart to cheat since.


Since she takes it pretty well in ME2 (not on the balcony obviously, but on the shadow broker ship) I'm actually very curious as to how she confronts Shepard about it in ME3. BW already said it would have 'dire reprecussions coming at the worst possible time' although I'm really wondering what this means for Liara.

For Ashley I could imagine her dumping Shepard without a mercy, same goes (I think) for Miranda and possibly kaiden. For others, including Liara, I'm unsure and curious...


Well, I've never done it personally, but here's a vid of the love triangle in ME1, and she's pretty calm about it:

Modifié par Son of Illusive Man, 22 juin 2011 - 03:57 .


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TMA LIVE wrote...

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?


Depends. A pure renegade is a racist trying to make humanity take over, so I guess a pure paragon is more fitting with her. But I think Liara would be best with a paragade or a renegon.


No! Renegade with Liara all the way.
My Renegade is a Spacer, the goal of the mission is all that matters to her. Torfan for example is a sore spot for her. If she is on a mission, she is not patient person, she is a real hardass if you want.
I think Liara is the ultimate Paragon in ME1.
They balance each other out, Liara' story arc is just perfect for this kind of romance. When they get back together in LotSB it's like they finally meet eye on eye. Liara doesn't see the universe as idealistic as before and my Renegade tries to be more friendly to the crew.

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?


Mostly paragon for ME1 since Liara seems to be almost pure paragon in ME1. For ME2/Lotsb Liara a paragade would suffice. In order to fit Liara's character best, Shepard would still have to be compassionate like Liara but understand that sometimes sacrifices are neccesary to achieve a greater goal. This last example is, I think, an example of a proper paragade Shepard.

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?


To be honest, it would depend on what story you are trying to tell and your own colors that you bring to the table. 

If I had to look at what was the best fit for my Liara ....

It was my paragade .... I had planned on her going solo in the game, but Liara found that particular Shepard to be "catnip" and there was no escaping. My Shepard still tries to run, but asaris are great at patience, observations and seduction.

My renegade pounced on Kaiden and my paragon went ga-ga over Ashley ... Neither of these Shepards looked twice at Liara. It was because of who these Shepards were in personality, needs and wants that determined their Posted Image and what would fit their stories.

Please note that Liara was not attracted to either the [color=#ff0000">R or the ]P[/color][/b] .... She found the renegade too "human = bully" and while she admires her strength, she is also scared of her ... She absolutely loves & respects my paragon Shepard like a big brother and he is very protective of her.

This is where options (romanceable) doesn't mean "have-to's" to me.

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?


Paragade or Renagon (Paragon also but I am not a huge fan of it). Renegade is either an unlikeable jackass. Or cold and ruthless to the bone.

Shepard is in the end a good-guy (Renagon bit more of an anti-hero though) that is not afraid to "shoot the dog" if he feel that it is necesary. An attitude that I like to think Liara picks up during ME1.

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I have a Liara romance related question: What type of Shepard is best for Liara? A paragon or a renegade?


Colonist/Sole Survivor Paragade.

Liara is good for this Shepard.  In a way no one else can, she understands him.

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Ah mysterious Paragades and Renegons...never had any options for this alignment in my game. :(

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I'm late actually. Back in ME1, I thought Liara's a good kid. Smart, beautiful and naive in a sweet way but I never did have my femShep link up with her (I totally did not make a guy Shep at all in numerous playthrough until mths after ME2 appeared, just for the sake of having Ashley around for #3. For some reason I couldn't take to the guy Shep, no matter how hard I try. I had no such problems with other games though. I still have no guy Shep completed for ME2, probably would take mths again after ME3 appears)

So I was very much impressed that she went through so much to retrieve Shep (whatever Kaiden was doing??!!! Sleeping?) And her statement, that she couldn't let Shep go,  at their reunion in Ilium was touching. In LotSB, I was definitely very taken with their banter and the nice aftermath. After some thought, I finally decided to do a femShep + Liara combo, the Liara character is standing out so much heads above from the rest that I can't ignore it.  Posted Image 

The romance kickstarts and dialogue is interesting, raised a laugh or two (blue chidlren? Posted Image)  In any case,  this combo outbeats the rest with its interesting and entertaining writing + gameplay (really love the car chase & Shep's annoyance with Liara's unconcern for her diving out of the window) for ME and ME2.

It's inevitable that Liara would lose Shep again. If they're lucky, they would have years together. By then, Liara would be older and able to deal with it.

Get married? I dunno, it would be nice but I'd just be happy if at the end of ME3, they're together. That's good enough. Of course, if BW goes further, no complaints. Posted Image   I've no doubt Shep would keep a low profile and continue to do what she/he's good at; being a commander. 

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Quick question about Renagons/Pragedges. What is the general rule? One bar full the other more than 40%.

ME2 you can not do a "pure" paragon run. You always get renegade points some place, which bothered me at first. Now, I no longer care.

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ladyvader wrote...

Quick question about Renagons/Pragedges. What is the general rule? One bar full the other more than 40%.

ME2 you can not do a "pure" paragon run. You always get renegade points some place, which bothered me at first. Now, I no longer care.


I do not think there is any real definition for it. Althrough for me it means that you have a mixture of renegade and paragon decisions (and I am talking about major choices here). Attitude plays a small part though.

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ladyvader wrote...

Quick question about Renagons/Pragedges. What is the general rule? One bar full the other more than 40%.

ME2 you can not do a "pure" paragon run. You always get renegade points some place, which bothered me at first. Now, I no longer care.


The way I remember it's:

Paragon: >90% paragon bar
Paragade: >60% paragon/40% renegade

Renegade, Renagon same as above though switch paragon/renegade (of course)

The problem I have with this is that a PROPER paragade/renagon (neither of the alignment bars is full) gets slapped in the face by losing the loyalty of 2 squadmembers in ME2 as well as miss out on some other high level charm/intimidate options. I sincerely hope BW fixes this problem to make a paragade (or even 50/50 characters) not miss out on stuff. Right now we're basicly forced to choose paragon/renegade right from the start and be punished if we stray away from this path too often.

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Thanks for those that replied. I always ended up with one bar full either way.

@Robhuzz That is a problem of trying to be neutral. You don't get all the charm/intimidate dialogue.

Back on topic.....Paragon Shepard fits my Shepard best with Liara. Shepard isn't above telling a certain Sgt. that "You're working too hard." There are times you just have to do what needs to get done. Liara seems to understand that concept quite well.

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ladyvader wrote...

Quick question about Renagons/Pragedges. What is the general rule? One bar full the other more than 40%.

ME2 you can not do a "pure" paragon run. You always get renegade points some place, which bothered me at first. Now, I no longer care.


It's more about how you choose to align yourself rather than the points involved.  The point spread can fluctuate greatly.  Most people lean toward getting their bars to meet as halfway as possible without breaking their intended roleplay; but it's not a rule of thumb.  

Paragades are generally mindful of their allies, but aren't always the most polite to others.  They ultimately get the job done the right way, but are more willing to cut corners and make sacrifices when needed.  

Renegons get the job done; but you may not like the result.  They are still capable of compassion and respect, but are less worried about the consequences of their actions.

My personal opinion: there's a thin line between the two.