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[Akernis]

rubynorman wrote...
"You're alive again. I've got everything I want"
"I knew it was really you the first time I touched you again"

This is bad, I forgot those as well , those are some of those I really love.

[Mavqt]

CrazyGreggy wrote...

frudi wrote...

But it gets harder to stick to your morals when the meta-gamer in you knows the right choice turns out badly...

Unless you played the games blind and agonised over killing the Rachni queen for 5 minutes? Thought long and hard about the value of the captured Reaper tech vs who would be gaining from it.

Some of us DO role play at least the first time through, many do it for all playthroughs.

Stop projecting your decisions/values onto other people and you may acquire the ability to step into someone else's shoes for a moment. Frankly, I don't play for maximum EMS/assets, there are some decisions I simply refuse to make. In fact, since you bring up metagaming, I now deliberately hamper myself after Grissom Academy since the EC showed that putting the kids in the front line gets them killed. Eff the extra 25 war assets, I can win without getting all those young men and women killed.

Call it reverse metagaming if you will. Sometimes the right decision may produce a less beneficial result.

However, I still stand by the argument that saving the DA is both right and the most beneficial.

I'd also argue against lili's "Control is a pure paragon" choice. Once Shepard's removed from body, all those neurochemical emotional triggers gone, once the Normandy crew have succumbed to old age, then even the purest personality is going to start falling into hubris. It was a human mind to start with, with all the human failings, leavened by love, companionship, friends etc. Remove those ameliorating factors, arrogance and corruption will set in. The pure paragon will know this and refuse the power. Even Liara will only live another 900 years or so, what kind of monster could Shepard become in that time?

As hateful as the loss of EDI and the geth is, Destroy is the brutal calculus of war. Sacrifice some so that the rest can live.

I agree with what you say. But this is a Liara thread, not a morality thread

So back to Liara. One of my favourite quotes has to be.

"Shepard, I...I am yours." - True tearjerker:crying:

[Wulfram]

CrazyGreggy wrote...

As hateful as the loss of EDI and the geth is, Destroy is the brutal calculus of war. Sacrifice some so that the rest can live.

I think you're conflating being Paragon with being right.  The brutal calculus of war is a renegade thing, more or less.  Paragons take risks to do what is morally right, they don't write off the deaths of their allies as acceptable casualties when there's an option that allows the possibility of victory without that loss

Anyway, in 900 years when Shepard goes nuts, the galaxy will probably be tough enough to kick the reapers arses back to dark space using conventional means.  Or they could keep the Crucible plugged in, just in case.

[IliyaMoroumetz]

I missed the 1700 page?! NOOOOOOOOO!!

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Returning you to current news ....

[Akernis]

A little happy ending, even Mordin, Legion and Andersson decided to join in.

And of course a certain human and asari enjoying each other's company.

Modifié par Akernis, 01 juillet 2012 - 01:02 .

[noxiuniversitas1]

one-up, Akernis

[DOsquareZER]

How 'bout that, a manshep liara piece to all you sheploo fans. And surprise! Liara found him alive and...more or less well.

[Yuqi]

doozer12 wrote...


How 'bout that, a manshep liara piece to all you sheploo fans. And surprise! Liara found him alive and...more or less well.

That artist see liara as shepards BFF.

 And liara face in this..

[d32f123]

Yuqi wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

*snip*
How 'bout that, a manshep liara piece to all you sheploo fans. And surprise! Liara found him alive and...more or less well.

That artist see liara as shepards BFF.

 And liara face in this..
*snip*

How did you get Liara in that scene? I only got Garrus :\\

[Han Shot First]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I like the Reject Ending because it is one where the Reapers outright win, at least for the current cycle. The game needed at least one ending where Shepard fails.

I also don't understand why some people were suprised by the results. The civilizations of the current cycle are far less technologically advanced than the Reapers, and as such cannot defeat them conventionally. The results of trying to defeat them conventionally were fairly predictable.

Except for, you know, all the other times we defeated Reapers conventionally.

Oh and the time a worm with no technology at all to aid it defeated a Reaper.

In each case it was one Reaper, not a concentrated  fleet of hundreds or thousands of them. Sovereign and the Rannoch Reaper are great examples of why the galaxy could not defeat the Reapers conventionally. In the case of Sovereign an entire fleet was doing little to no damage to it before Shepard was able to bring it's shields down by killing Sovereign's avatar, and it took bombardment from the entire Migrant Fleet to bring down the Rannoch Reaper.

In order for the civilizations of the galaxy to have defeated the Reapers conventionally, Mass Effect 2 would have had to have been a very different game. Most of that game would have had to have been focused on levelling the playing field technologically. By the time the Reapers invade it is too late. Since that didn't happen, ME3 couldn't have ended in any other way other than through the use of a superweapon.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 01 juillet 2012 - 04:28 .

[Yuqi]

d32f123 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

*snip*
How 'bout that, a manshep liara piece to all you sheploo fans. And surprise! Liara found him alive and...more or less well.

That artist see liara as shepards BFF.

 And liara face in this..
*snip*

How did you get Liara in that scene? I only got Garrus :

Not my gif. But Ibelive it was mentioned that it wont be your LI, but the person you spoke to most on the ship? With mine it was javik,and he was the person I spoke to most.

I agree with  Han-Shot-First in the above post.

Modifié par Yuqi, 01 juillet 2012 - 05:04 .

[d32f123]

Yuqi wrote...

d32f123 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

*snip*
How 'bout that, a manshep liara piece to all you sheploo fans. And surprise! Liara found him alive and...more or less well.

That artist see liara as shepards BFF.

 And liara face in this..
*snip*

How did you get Liara in that scene? I only got Garrus :

Not my gif. But Ibelive it was mentioned that it wont be your LI, but the person you spoke to most on the ship? With mine it was javik,and he was the person I spoke to most.

I agree with  Han-Shot-First in the above post.

Can't be. I was always talking to Liara and Javik, after every mission, but Garrus appears on this scene 

Modifié par d32f123, 01 juillet 2012 - 05:10 .

[Aristobulus500]

It's based on relationship score, it'll be one of the highest, and I don't thin it'll be your LI or one of the two squadmembers that were on the beam run.

This makes sense because for example, Liara as an LI would never tell Joker to leave Shepard behind, so that's why she'll never appear there if she's the LI.

[d32f123]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

It's based on relationship score, it'll be one of the highest, and I don't thin it'll be your LI or one of the two squadmembers that were on the beam run.

This makes sense because for example, Liara as an LI would never tell Joker to leave Shepard behind, so that's why she'll never appear there if she's the LI.

Well maybe she won't say that, you know, another dialogue line

[Han Shot First]

I did two runs through the beam. The first with James and Javik when I wasn't sure how it would play out, and once with Liara and Garrus. Both times it was with the same player character and Liara was his LI. Both times it was also Ashley who told Joker it was time to go.

So it does appear as if it is never your LI or the two squadmates from the beam rush.

On a side note, Ashley really works well in that scene. Her voice actress did a great job in making Ashley sound as if it was almost painful for her to tell Joker that it was time to go. Ashley also makes sense for that scene, because at that point she should be in command of the Normandy.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 01 juillet 2012 - 05:36 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

d32f123 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

d32f123 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

*snip*
How 'bout that, a manshep liara piece to all you sheploo fans. And surprise! Liara found him alive and...more or less well.

That artist see liara as shepards BFF.

 And liara face in this..
*snip*

How did you get Liara in that scene? I only got Garrus :

Not my gif. But Ibelive it was mentioned that it wont be your LI, but the person you spoke to most on the ship? With mine it was javik,and he was the person I spoke to most.

I agree with  Han-Shot-First in the above post.

Can't be. I was always talking to Liara and Javik, after every mission, but Garrus appears on this scene 

I had Javik and Traynor. makes sense, of a sort, even though I talked to all them after every mission. Javik and Traynor had the least rapport with Shep. Javik was the one to prod Joker and did he look angry. Traynor looked worried, that look of : I wanna get outta here!!! *fidget fidget*

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 01 juillet 2012 - 05:50 .

[rubynorman]

Liara and James were with me on the beam run. Garrus is the one who appeared in that scene, and I'm glad he is the third one who gets out of the Normandy too.


 
No Hope!? by *Mallyxable


Remember the Lost by ~RenderEffect-Dan

[Obsidian Gryphon]

rubynorman wrote...

Liara and James were with me on the beam run. Garrus is the one who appeared in that scene, and I'm glad he is the third one who gets out of the Normandy too.


 
No Hope!? by *Mallyxable

*snip*

Remember the Lost by ~RenderEffect-Dan

*snip*

Nicely done though depressing. Doesn't make sense actually since Liara's onboard the Normandy which indicate a high EMS Destroy choice. Why'd the heck would she be moping after that scene (her smile) at the Memorial Wall?

[DOsquareZER]

around 16:50 for those of you curious to hear Liara telling joker to go.

[rubynorman]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Nicely done though depressing. Doesn't make sense actually since Liara's onboard the Normandy which indicate a high EMS Destroy choice. Why'd the heck would she be moping after that scene (her smile) at the Memorial Wall?

Liara is onboard the Normandy in Synthesis and Control as well. And she put Shepard 's name on the memorial wall in these ending. I guess it was the control ending in these pictures.

[moreeman06]

 OK I'm gonna post this now and I'll probably post it again tomorrow when there's more traffic but here is part 1 of my post EC fic.  the second part is still in the works and I'm sorry for not having it out right away but between apprehension on the part of the EC and soccer related depression  I've been off my game writing wise these past few days.  as i noted in the description though I couldn't come up with a planet better than Terra Nova so if you have any better planets/names to use i will gladly steal them with you permission.

So without further ado i give you

"Recovery ch.1"

This is based on a high EMS destroy ending hope you enjoy.  As i said comments and critiques are greatly appreciated.  and although i prefer them on DA I will be posting it on FF.net with some of my older stories soon when i get the chance to make sure they convert properly to get all you users over there:D

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Modifié par moreeman06, 01 juillet 2012 - 07:01 .