lillitheris wrote...
frudi wrote...
I'm talking about the risk (a chance) of many organics getting killed (by the Reapers) versus the certainty of fewer Geth definitely getting killed (by Shepard).
You’re talking about an absolute certainty of many people getting killed in the most gruesome manner possible, vs. a smaller number of people killed in a manner less so. The Earth was lost. Boom. 11 billion gone.
It is not an absolute certainty that many more people will get killed in Reject, not from Shepard's perspective. The loss of Earth for example would not just instantly result in billions of deaths, if that were the case there'd have been no-one left alive on it any more anyway (for all intents and purposes, the planet's been 'lost' for months now).
I also can't agree that the 'gruesomeness' of the deaths has any relevance here, if for no other reason then because we have no idea how Geth and EDI would experience dying, not in general and even less so by the effects of the Crucible. Dismissing their perception of death as less traumatic is simply arrogant.
lillitheris wrote...
That is the point of the Paragon, is it not? To take the harder, possibly riskier path, because the easier one is guaranteed to be morally wrong?
No.
Please either elaborate or refrain from making meaningless arguments such as that.
lillitheris wrote...
And, again, if you’re concerned about that, you’d choose Control — it avoids killing anyone.
I guess I have to take my own advice from the previous paragraph and expand on why I consider Control an invalid choice.
Mainly it's because I don't believe Shepard 'survives' the transformation, and I don't mean just her physical body which is obviously destroyed. Even if we assume her memories can get perfectly transferred, her mind and personality I believe can not. Changing the substrate on which cognitive processes run would most likely lead to a completely different personality, one that could be not just different from the original, but possibly entirely alien. This is partially supported by the codex, which states that AIs can't just switch hardware, because replacement of their blue box introduces unpredictable variations, resulting in different personalities. Expanding on this, swapping hardly understood biological wetware for totally unknown alien hardware would most likely introduce completely unpredictable and drastic personality changes.
Now, Shepard, depending on how you role-play her, may not necessarily be aware of all this and might just ignorantly accept the Control choice. My Shepard however, she's not as ignorant and is therefore well aware of the dangers of such a proposal. As she has also experienced just how flawed and irrational the current Catalyst is, she's also worried that there might be some fundamental flaw with his hardware or programming, a flaw that she herself might 'inherit' were she to assume his position.
Therefore, my Shepard has no choice but to conclude that there is a very real possibility that assuming Control would result in her becoming as 'corrupted' as the old Catalyst and just continuing the cycle in his place. Or that she might get changed in any number of other ways and use the power of the Reapers for some other similarly horrific purposes. Basically, my Shepard decides that she can't trust the thing that she might become.
It was also implied in the original Control ending that the option might not even work, that Shepard might not even be able to control the Reapers. I think that bit of dialogue was removed in EC, though the taint of its implications is harder to forget. What does still remain though, is the fact that in every single instance Shepard is aware of of anyone arguing for controlling the Reapers, that person turned out to be indoctrinated. The Catalyst even confirms this with regards to TIM; he could not have taken control because they already controlled him. And just after that the Catalyst tries to sweet talk Shepard that she is different, really, honest, she should trust him, she really could take control. Yeah, well, I'll roll with my Shepard not being gullible enough to fall for that.
ugh bah! pah! ... no no, not my choice, no unhappy, depressed Liara for me.
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