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jop, amazing :wub:

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noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
Oh, hi! I'm Jen; fairly new to the thread.. Only been popping in for under 100 pages ;) Are you the same Karmen Sandiego who left such awesome suggestions for Forever as One? If so, apologies for not getting back to you just yet - overseas on vacation atm, but just getting down to answering reviews now. Have to say - I love your suggestions, and one of them in particular (*cough* wedding *cough*) has been a ridiculously popular request! I actually have it written, lol, but have been sitting on it for over a week.


Thought we were going to miss this, did you, Jen? :P Boy, a wedding - I'm very curious to see how you have done it - no doubt you have been sitting on it a lot, it's a very difficult concept because you have to count in the asari factor, too. Very, very looking forward to seeing what you've done!

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lol, Theo! I should have known better ;)

Yeah, that's umm.. The chapter I'm *least* likely to actuall post in the near future, lol. Wrote it in 20 minutes immediately after the 30 or so it took for ch 2, and haven't revisted it since! It needs some TLC, though, as well as some pretty major revisions in concepts before I'll even consider posting it ;)

Plus... If the other half accidentally catches sight of what I've written in ch 2, let alone ch 3, he may just die of shock, lol. Sooo - vacation editing is out of the question ;)

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Yuqi wrote...

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I  frikken loved that vid! YOu did such an excellent job. I did however see it on( what I assume is your) tumblr first. Question: Where did the 'You know I love you. I always will.' come from?Is it exclusive to a new romance? (Props for picking control!)

I notice that the female shepards voice almost cracks, in all of the goodbye scenes.(The romance ones anyway.)


Hey there,
wow, thank you all for you great feedback and for watching my little video *proud*
I´m really happy you guys like it! 

And yes,  you'll get this line "You know I love you. I always will." with Garrus..but I thought it might fit here, too.
To add more feelings xD

I listened to most of the DLC-audio files..I got goose bumps everytime Shepards voice cracked. Awesome work from Jennifer Hale! So authentic....goddess...

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kumquats wrote...

WB for everyone and thank you for telling me about Shepard's/Liara's sex life, I needed the good news.


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noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

lol, Theo! I should have known better ;)

Yeah, that's umm.. The chapter I'm *least* likely to actuall post in the near future, lol. Wrote it in 20 minutes immediately after the 30 or so it took for ch 2, and haven't revisted it since! It needs some TLC, though, as well as some pretty major revisions in concepts before I'll even consider posting it ;)

Plus... If the other half accidentally catches sight of what I've written in ch 2, let alone ch 3, he may just die of shock, lol. Sooo - vacation editing is out of the question ;)

Then we will be looking very forward to seeing when you do post it Image IPB
Jen you do know that as soon as you even think about voicing that sort of thing Theo and I will be on you like hawks for getting to read it Image IPB

Leolein wrote...

I listened to most of the DLC-audio files..I got goose bumps everytime Shepards voice cracked. Awesome work from Jennifer Hale! So authentic....goddess...

It is a shame that Meer is not as emotional with the scene, I very rarely compare the two and am quite happy with Meer's performance in general but Hale's simply sounded astounding in that scene, shame Mark is not as into Liara as Jennifer is Image IPB  

Modifié par Akernis, 03 juillet 2012 - 04:43 .


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lol, Akernis! Yeah but phwoarrr something like this... a reader somewhere is bound to go into a fit of nerdrage at a random point, lol.

And I almost worry Liara's POV will start to get old very quickly. Then again, first-person & present tense is my preferred style for touching / emotionally-invested scenes, so, I dunno...

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Alright fellas, I am happy to show you the long promised picture (if anyone even remembers) of Liara that was painted by my dear mother. I (and my mother, ofcourse) hope you like it! :)
The quality of the picture is REALLY not good, and I apoligize for that.
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http://donk95.deviantart.com/#/d55y1qe

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Akernis wrote...
Then we will be looking very forward to seeing when you do post it Image IPB
Jen you do know that as soon as you even think about voicing that sort of thing Theo and I will be on you like hawks for getting to read it Image IPB
 

Exactly - so announce at your own risk because we'll keeping our eyes and ears open for every little bit of leaked information about any fic of yours and make you release it until you do! :P

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...
And I almost worry Liara's POV will start to get old very quickly. Then again, first-person & present tense is my preferred style for touching / emotionally-invested scenes, so, I dunno...

I don't speak for everyone but I've always been intrigued by Liara's PoV because there's so much depth there, many things that are different than a human's perception of things. While it's more difficult to portray it, I believe that it can be more interesting, depending on the fic, of course. I'm all for any PoV!

Modifié par Theodoro, 03 juillet 2012 - 05:08 .


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noxiuniversitas1

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@Donk LOVE IT

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TheDonk95 wrote...

Alright fellas, I am happy to show you the long promised picture (if anyone even remembers) of Liara that was painted by my dear mother. I (and my mother, ofcourse) hope you like it! :)
The quality of the picture is REALLY not good, and I apoligize for that.
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http://donk95.deviantart.com/#/d55y1qe


Wow, Donk, this is amazing! Your mother is very talented indeed, I love this - she's captured Liara's expression and Liara's face beautifully. It was well worth the wait!

And I think this capture of her really is ME1 Liara in her finest.

Modifié par Theodoro, 03 juillet 2012 - 05:07 .


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Theodoro wrote...
I don't speak for everyone but I've always been intrigued by Liara's PoV because there's so much depth there, many things that are different than a human's perception of things While it's more difficult to portray it, I believe that it can be more interesting, depending on the fic, of course. I'm all for any PoV!


Ah, cheers for the input - it is currently still Liara, but I might change it. Or... I might just write an entirely separate story from Shep's PoV... kinda like Empty/15 Secs.
Anyway - you'll know when it's up (if ever...) ;).

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Akernis wrote...

Leolein wrote...

I listened to most of the DLC-audio files..I got goose bumps everytime Shepards voice cracked. Awesome work from Jennifer Hale! So authentic....goddess...

It is a shame that Meer is not as emotional with the scene, I very rarely compare the two and am quite happy with Meer's performance in general but Hale's simply sounded astounding in that scene, shame Mark is not as into Liara as Jennifer is Image IPB  


I actually like that Meer is a little bit more composed. I think it is more in character with how he has portrayed Shepard throughout the three games.

In some ways the Male and Female versions of Shepard are different characters by virtue of having different voice actors, who act out the same scenes with slight differences. That doesn't mean however that the Male version of Shep cares about Liara any less.

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I'm happy you like the picture guys :) Thank you.

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I was quite happy with how Mark Meer delivered his lines - it felt natural, and it felt like how a male Commander Shepard would respond. As Han Shot First said, he's more composed in the scene, and I think that he portrays the same amount of emotion - just in a different way.

That's why I think that both Meer and Hale do their lines very well, and I don't think it's a "one or the other" type of scenario. Meer can be very emotional in romance scenes and he does it in a believable manner, just different than Hale's interpretation and I honestly like both.

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TheDonk95 wrote...

Alright fellas, I am happy to show you the long promised picture (if anyone even remembers) of Liara that was painted by my dear mother. I (and my mother, ofcourse) hope you like it! :)
The quality of the picture is REALLY not good, and I apoligize for that.
http://th05.devianta...k95-d55y1qe.jpg

http://donk95.deviantart.com/#/d55y1qe

At first I was like "how can you say it's not good, the painting is brilliant!"... then I realised you meant the picture of the painting wasn't good =] (which I'll have to take your word for, it seems fine to me).

Anyway, the painting... I think it captures ME1 Liara perfectly, I love it.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Leolein wrote...

I listened to most of the DLC-audio files..I got goose bumps everytime Shepards voice cracked. Awesome work from Jennifer Hale! So authentic....goddess...

It is a shame that Meer is not as emotional with the scene, I very rarely compare the two and am quite happy with Meer's performance in general but Hale's simply sounded astounding in that scene, shame Mark is not as into Liara as Jennifer is Image IPB  


I actually like that Meer is a little bit more composed. I think it is more in character with how he has portrayed Shepard throughout the three games.

In some ways the Male and Female versions of Shepard are different characters by virtue of having different voice actors, who act out the same scenes with slight differences. That doesn't mean however that the Male version of Shep cares about Liara any less.


I doubt even the most battle hardened solider wouldn't stutter, tear up or choke when saying goodbye to your (for RP sake lets say) true love when facing certain death. Just to clarify I'm not saying a full-on emotional wreak.

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mavqt wrote...
I doubt even the most battle hardened solider wouldn't stutter, tear up or choke when saying goodbye to your (for RP sake lets say) true love when facing certain death. Just to clarify I'm not saying a full-on emotional wreak.

But he does choke up when saying goodbye to Liara - if you watch the video of the goodbye scene between Shepard and Liara, you will see that he does. It's just not as evident as in FemShep's case, and that's perfectly normal. You can't expect it to be one hundred per cent the same. His goodbye is just as emotional.

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Theodoro wrote...

mavqt wrote...
I doubt even the most battle hardened solider wouldn't stutter, tear up or choke when saying goodbye to your (for RP sake lets say) true love when facing certain death. Just to clarify I'm not saying a full-on emotional wreak.

But he does choke up when saying goodbye to Liara - if you watch the video of the goodbye scene between Shepard and Liara, you will see that he does. It's just not as evident as in FemShep's case, and that's perfectly normal. You can't expect it to be one hundred per cent the same. His goodbye is just as emotional.


Haven't seen the MShep goodbye. Sorry I misunderstood Hans' comment, my bad.:(

(Never could get immersed with Mark Meer, it's hard for me to point out the reasons why.):?

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@TheDonk95: I love it. Especially Liara's eyes, your mother captured them perfectly. It's really worth the wait. Thank you.
I feel a little envious because you have such a great painting of Liara on your wall. XD

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@Donk I really like your picure and hope your mom will continue drawing Liara. ;)

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mavqt wrote...

I doubt even the most battle hardened solider wouldn't stutter, tear up or choke when saying goodbye to your (for RP sake lets say) true love when facing certain death. Just to clarify I'm not saying a full-on emotional wreak.


Not necessarily.

While Shepard and Liara's relationship might be a bit uncommon when compared to real world military experience, the bonds between soldiers or Marines can often be like those between brothers, particularly in combat.  While the love of a wife or girlfriend is certainly different than the love felt towards a brother, losing a brother or sister you were close to would be no less profound. If you look at real world military experience during wartime, expressions of grief more often come in moments of quiet reflection rather than in the heat of battle.

This short video clip I think might be relevant:

The War - I Killed Men


While he is talking about the emotional reaction to having taken lives rather than a reaction to the loss of a comrade, I think similar psychological factors are in play in suppressing the emotional reaction until the mission is over.

Male Shep also does express emotion in that farewell scene, it is just much more subtle.

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Han Shot First wrote...

mavqt wrote...

I doubt even the most battle hardened solider wouldn't stutter, tear up or choke when saying goodbye to your (for RP sake lets say) true love when facing certain death. Just to clarify I'm not saying a full-on emotional wreak.


Not necessarily.

While Shepard and Liara's relationship might be a bit uncommon when compared to real world military experience, the bonds between soldiers or Marines can often be like those between brothers, particularly in combat.  While the love of a wife or girlfriend is certainly different than the love felt towards a brother, losing a brother or sister you were close to would be no less profound. If you look at real world military experience during wartime, expressions of grief more often come in moments of quiet reflection rather than in the heat of battle.

Male Shep also does express emotion in that farewell scene, it is just much more subtle.


Very true, must of slipped my mind. I guess it has something to do with the battle pausing (sort of) while they are saying their goodbyes.

Also I misread your ealier post. (See reply my to Theodoro a few posts up)

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Han Shot First wrote...

This short video clip I think might be relevant:

The War - I Killed Men


While he is talking about the emotional reaction to having taken lives rather than a reaction to the loss of a comrade, I think similar psychological factors are in play in suppressing the emotional reaction until the mission is over.

Male Shep also does express emotion in that farewell scene, it is just much more subtle.


My Uncle, cousins and friends (in the army) have told me very simular stoires.

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I think that Mark Meer did an incredible job with Shepard's voice, both in the emotional and combat scenes. Very good voice acting.

And thanks you guys about the compliments on the painting!