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[lillitheris]

doozer12 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...
They’re releasing a DLC that gives everyone the dumb?

(Semi-seriously, perhaps we should end the ending discussion before it gets ugly?)

Shoot the tube on this discussion, lillitheris!  It must be destroyed!!! Save the thread!!
Or do you suggest we control it!  Become the supreme moderator!  Take over BSN and dictate!
Or no! we shall merge it!  all love interest and general topic threads will merge to become one! and live in perfect harmony! and glow in the vibrant glow of 5 star ratings...

<3

[Wulfram]

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

What do you think Liara's flaws are?

She tends to become rather obsessive.

She has a subtle bit of Asari arrogance going on - from her dismissal of other people's forms of sexuality to her seeing falling to the reapers as something that can happen to other peoples worlds.

She tends to shut other people out while grieving.  Not sure if that's a flaw, but it can hurt for someone who loves her.

Since becoming Shadowbroker, she seems to have a rather cavalier attitude to peoples privacy.

[Smugglers Luck]

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Ok, folks, here's a question that PMC and I discussed not too long ago;
What do you think Liara's flaws are?

I had a hard time seeing, perhaps being distracted by the blue, but I also figured that her naivette was a notable flaw and her inexperience around people made her an easy target.

Fast forward to ME2 and lo and behold, (and this is what I recall from PMC's and My conversation) Liara's more concerned about taking down the Shadow Broker because he was better than she was. She don't like being talked down to, as evidenced by Javik's condescending behavior in ME3.

What say you folks?

I wouldn't call these flaws so much as an evolution of her character. She goes from being this naive little archaeologist to this skilled information broker because of certain events which shaped her character and personality. She has personal reasons for going against the Shadow Broker (He tried to sell Shepard's body to the Collectors). She got angry at Javik because he was suggesting something that was completely foreign to her ( the fact that Athame was actually Prothean and the Protheans had helped their people evolve.)

[karmensandiego]

noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

Akernis wrote...
*sigh* I will never understand haters, why can't people just focus on trying to have their own romance improved instead of trying to diminish that of others?
 

I'll try and improve your mood with some Forever As One love tomorrow

Edit: thanks to Karmen, though, I may have to change the rating <_<

Ahem.  You may all thank me now.  I shall take my gratitude it in artwork, hugs, general statements of awe, etc.

[Xilizhra]

frudi wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

But speaking of which... in Synthesis, if Liara preserves Shepard's memories well enough... if Shepard had a greybox, she could be the beneficiary of Liara's recovered memories and perhaps return to life in the same way that Keiji has been confirmed to. Plus be effectively immortal. It may be that she and Liara can have a happy ending in this version after all... especially if the Synthesis alterations allow for them to still have children anyway.

Ugh, don't remind me of the idiocy of the Synthesised Keiji reveal. There's more to a person's mind than just a snapshot of some memories; having them brought back to life from just those is nothing more than waving the space magic wand of bull**** +5.

Well... there's memories, present cognition, and general bodily functions. A sapient greybox continuance would definitely have two of those, as well as the third in some form.

[The Lightspeaker]

frudi wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

But speaking of which... in Synthesis, if Liara preserves Shepard's memories well enough... if Shepard had a greybox, she could be the beneficiary of Liara's recovered memories and perhaps return to life in the same way that Keiji has been confirmed to. Plus be effectively immortal. It may be that she and Liara can have a happy ending in this version after all... especially if the Synthesis alterations allow for them to still have children anyway.

Ugh, don't remind me of the idiocy of the Synthesised Keiji reveal. There's more to a person's mind than just a snapshot of some memories; having them brought back to life from just those is nothing more than waving the space magic wand of bull**** +5.

I'm quite frankly shocked with how far Bioware went with trying to portray Synthesis as the fairy tale happy ending. Apart from Shepard not surviving, it's depicted as more diabetes-inducing than anything that all the pre-EC pro-ending players and particularly 'game journalists' mocked us 'whiny entitled complainers' of wishing for.
I have this nagging feeling that ME3 got the crap ending it did just because someone at Bioware (*cough*Casey*cough*Walters) fell in love with the idea of a technological utopia and decided to shove it down everyone's throats, no matter how badly it fitted in with the rest of the trilogy.

Honestly the one reason I just flat out cannot like synthesis is this: you're violating the bodies of every single person in the galaxy. Without their permission.

How is that NOT a horrifying concept?

[Wulfram]

frudi wrote...

Another off-topic and maybe already mentioned, but Bioware have released the EC sountrack, for free.

New challenge:

Find something that the Control music doesn't make seem ominous.

edit: To be on topic, I tried combining it with the Liara romance scene. Do not do this!

Modifié par Wulfram, 06 juillet 2012 - 10:27 .

[lillitheris]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Honestly the one reason I just flat out cannot like synthesis is this: you're violating the bodies of every single person in the galaxy. Without their permission.

How is that NOT a horrifying concept?

The good folks in the Synthesis threads have interesting ideas.

But yeah, seriously, maybe a cautious step away from the topic? Let’s



And make out— up! I meant up!

[Xilizhra]

And make out— up! I meant up!

I'm up for either... depending, of course, on who's on the other end.

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.

[The Lightspeaker]

Xilizhra wrote...

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.

Retake Shepard's underwear? ;D

[lillitheris]

Wulfram wrote...

Find something that the Control music doesn't make seem ominous.

It’s the “Lux Aeterna” of ominous music.

[Mr.House]

Wulfram wrote...

frudi wrote...

Another off-topic and maybe already mentioned, but Bioware have released the EC sountrack, for free.

New challenge:

Find something that the Control music doesn't make seem ominous.

edit: To be on topic, I tried combining it with the Liara romance scene. Do not do this!

WHY WOULD U DO THAT? That's just asking to get creeped out.

[CrimsonN7]

Xilizhra wrote...

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.

They don't call em asari commandos for nothing:whistle:



How did Shep get any work done?

[Xilizhra]

How did Shep get any work done?

The easiest but also least pleasurable solution: separate cabins and too much else to worry about to include sex, until Liara decided to go for it in case they never could again.

[DOsquareZER]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.

Retake Shepard's underwear? ;D

Im in... where do i sign

New challenge:
Find something that the Control music doesn't make seem ominous.
edit: To be on topic, I tried combining it with the Liara romance scene. Do not do this!

Rofl!!!  That is an interesting challenge..

Modifié par doozer12, 06 juillet 2012 - 10:41 .

[The Lightspeaker]

Xilizhra wrote...

How did Shep get any work done?

The easiest but also least pleasurable solution: separate cabins and too much else to worry about to include sex, until Liara decided to go for it in case they never could again.

Pfff...implying Shepard and Liara didn't go to each other's cabins at night. As if.

I know Naomi did. The beds there are pretty big for a damn good reason. ;D

[PMC65]

Smugglers Luck wrote...

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Ok, folks, here's a question that PMC and I discussed not too long ago;
What do you think Liara's flaws are?

I had a hard time seeing, perhaps being distracted by the blue, but I also figured that her naivette was a notable flaw and her inexperience around people made her an easy target.

Fast forward to ME2 and lo and behold, (and this is what I recall from PMC's and My conversation) Liara's more concerned about taking down the Shadow Broker because he was better than she was. She don't like being talked down to, as evidenced by Javik's condescending behavior in ME3.

What say you folks?

I wouldn't call these flaws so much as an evolution of her character. She goes from being this naive little archaeologist to this skilled information broker because of certain events which shaped her character and personality. She has personal reasons for going against the Shadow Broker (He tried to sell Shepard's body to the Collectors). She got angry at Javik because he was suggesting something that was completely foreign to her ( the fact that Athame was actually Prothean and the Protheans had helped their people evolve.)

Liara does not like people who make her feel foolish or talked down to even though she herself does this ... We sometimes hate the same thing we do ourselves. Liara is far from perfect and I can see her and EW Shepard having some very healthy arguments.

Just made it passed Thessia and man it stung to actually see Shepard lose ... Liara is the last thing on Shepard's mind right now as she has to tell the asari councilor and everyone else that Cerberus has taken their only hope in beating the reapers. Yes Tali and Ash ... go cheer her up while Shepard delivers the not so good news.

[Batlass8]

doozer12 wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.

Retake Shepard's underwear? ;D

Im in... where do i sign

Commando Shepard?  (You were all thinking it). 

[Xilizhra]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

How did Shep get any work done?

The easiest but also least pleasurable solution: separate cabins and too much else to worry about to include sex, until Liara decided to go for it in case they never could again.

Pfff...implying Shepard and Liara didn't go to each other's cabins at night. As if.

I know Naomi did. The beds there are pretty big for a damn good reason. ;D

It's a nice thing to think, don't get me wrong, but the tone of the sex scene before Cronus struck me as something they hadn't been doing for a while, and had greatly missed. Though I could be wrong, and it'd give me another excuse to watch it again... for research purposes, of course.

[CrimsonN7]

Xilizhra wrote...

How did Shep get any work done?

The easiest but also least pleasurable solution: separate cabins and too much else to worry about to include sex, until Liara decided to go for it in case they never could again.

Even when Shep has a galaxy to save Liara finds a way, that clever lil minx:P 

[AlexPorto111]

Hey guys,i just found out that my save got the Liara romance bug,i romanced Liara in me1 and in the LOTSB.But she still says that its been years since they were together in the beginning of ME3 on the first conversation aboard the Normandy.There are some changes on the romance overall?

Also,on Earth,Liara mentioned about the little blue children,she says that always,or its just when you have the LOTSB save?

Modifié par AlexPorto111, 06 juillet 2012 - 10:46 .

[Akernis]

Yeah!! the thread back on track with Liara

PMC65 wrote...
Liara does not like people who make her feel foolish or talked down to even though she herself does this ... We sometimes hate the same thing we do ourselves.

When does she do that? I can't seem to remember.

Xilizhra wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...
Pfff...implying Shepard and Liara didn't go to each other's cabins at night. As if.

It's a nice thing to think, don't get me wrong, but the tone of the sex scene before Cronus struck me as something they hadn't been doing for a while, and had greatly missed.

Nah, they are always that passionate

Oh dear, top, just give me a moment I just have to get someoone *runs off*

Edit: Okay I am back and see who I brought along 

Modifié par Akernis, 06 juillet 2012 - 10:55 .

[Wulfram]

I tend to assume the Reaper War actually goes on for at least a couple of months - filled up mostly with the sort of missions that are implied by the planet scanning missions - despite the game sort of implying it only lasts a few days. In which case I can't see Shepard and Liara waiting until just before Cronos.