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#43151
shepard1038

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

How did Shep get any work done?

The easiest but also least pleasurable solution: separate cabins and too much else to worry about to include sex, until Liara decided to go for it in case they never could again.


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Even when Shep has a galaxy to save Liara finds a way, that clever lil minx:P 

Hey its a Mass Effect tradition.

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jlb524 wrote...

*jlb says something*


JLB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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YOU MISSED THE AWKWARDLY PROLONGED GROUP HUG!!!!

#43153
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Wulfram wrote...

I tend to assume the Reaper War actually goes on for at least a couple of months - filled up mostly with the sort of missions that are implied by the planet scanning missions - despite the game sort of implying it only lasts a few days. In which case I can't see Shepard and Liara waiting until just before Cronos.


Indeed (actually game implies quite a while given the whole reunion with Anderson thing on Earth).

Theres no way that Naomi and Liara would be able to keep their hands off each other for more than a few nights. ;)

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Wulfram wrote...

I tend to assume the Reaper War actually goes on for at least a couple of months - filled up mostly with the sort of missions that are implied by the planet scanning missions - despite the game sort of implying it only lasts a few days. In which case I can't see Shepard and Liara waiting until just before Cronos.

Maybe because ME3 is the first Bioware game I've played where the climactic sex scene can happen with someone you already romanced, and it feels a bit odd to have it be so dramatic if it hadn't been the first time in a while, at least. But eh, empirical non-gamist evidence suggests otherwise, and I don't have to be persuaded much into the thought that Liara and Shepard have more sex. And I even realize that Liara needs her own room for other reasons, i.e. the space for her SB computers. I just wish it wasn't treated like some kind of special occurrence when Liara came into Shepard's cabin ever; it made them seem more separated. Then again, Aethtya implies in her conversation that sex is currently happening and Liara doesn't deny it...

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Honestly the one reason I just flat out cannot like synthesis is this: you're violating the bodies of every single person in the galaxy. Without their permission.

How is that NOT a horrifying concept?

You're not violating just their bodies, but their minds as well. How anyone thought this would be a good idea for 'the best ending' is simply beyond my ability to comprehend.

Xilizhra wrote...

frudi wrote...

Ugh, don't remind me of the idiocy of the Synthesised Keiji reveal. There's more to a person's mind than just a snapshot of some memories; having them brought back to life from just those is nothing more than waving the space magic wand of bull**** +5.

Well... there's memories, present cognition, and general bodily functions. A sapient greybox continuance would definitely have two of those, as well as the third in some form.

Even if you could 'transplant' the graybox's content (the contained memories) into another cognitive processor (brain, AI blue-box, whatever), the result would not be the original personality, not even a bad copy of it. It would just be some new random personality with some of the original's memories.
But Synthesis just handwaves the issue away, along with oh so many others, in favour of :wizard:. Puf, dead people back to life, rainbows and ponies for everyone!

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.


They don't call em asari commandos for nothing:whistle:

Well, we've long ago already established that asari don't normally wear underwear :D

CrimsonN7 wrote...

How did Shep get any work done?:wub:

Showers... frequent, long, cold showers :(

Well, more seriously, on the topic of how often Liara and Shep get to 'embrace eternity'. The game doesn't portray time passage during space travel exactly as per canon; they would have had plenty of time for themselves during all those hours or even days long FTL flights between star systems. And communications don't work in FTL either, so no shadow broking for Liara during all those long, boring flights ;)

Modifié par frudi, 06 juillet 2012 - 11:08 .


#43156
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Even as far back as ME1 Liara always liked to take control, just relax Commander.:wub: Maybe it's an asari thing, even Liselle liked to dominate Grayson in Retribution, I guess because they are quite skilled at finding all your hot spots just leave em have at it:whistle:

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Damn a blue goddess.

Comchannel: "Traynor, I have something special to take care of... next mission is delayed... all crew members can do some shore leave."

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Xilizhra wrote...

It's a nice thing to think, don't get me wrong, but the tone of the sex scene before Cronus struck me as something they hadn't been doing for a while, and had greatly missed.


That’s just because BioWare couldn’t be arsed to write carried-over romances differently from new ones, and the newbies need to have that development to climax.

#43159
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Even as far back as ME1 Liara always liked to take control, just relax Commander.Image IPB Maybe
it's an asari thing, even Liselle liked to dominate Grayson in
Retribution, I guess because they are quite skilled at finding all your
hots spots just leave em have at itImage IPB

Hmmm. So you think Liara would be on the dominant side there?

That’s just because BioWare couldn’t be arsed to write carried-over
romances differently from new ones, and the newbies need to have that
development to climax.

So how should that scene have gone?

Modifié par Xilizhra, 06 juillet 2012 - 11:11 .


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lillitheris wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

It's a nice thing to think, don't get me wrong, but the tone of the sex scene before Cronus struck me as something they hadn't been doing for a while, and had greatly missed.


That’s just because BioWare couldn’t be arsed to write carried-over romances differently from new ones, and the newbies need to have that development to climax.

I see what you did there :lol: 

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frudi wrote...
And communications don't work in FTL either, so no shadow broking for Liara during all those long, boring flights ;)


Well...it's only boring if you let it be boring. I'm certain my Naomi and Liara found ways to keep themselves entertained. :wub:

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Akernis wrote...

Yeah!! the thread back on track with Liara Image IPB

PMC65 wrote...
Liara does not like people who make her feel foolish or talked down to even though she herself does this ... We sometimes hate the same thing we do ourselves.

When does she do that? I can't seem to remember.


It starts at the beginning ... When Ashley compliments Liara looking great at 106 Liara is quick to say "for a short-lived species ..." Smack! I think asari do this not out of spite or meanness though.

Liara has lines throughout the trilogy that can be rough if you take the right tree choices ... There are many choices in the red path that show Liara to be not so innocent ... and I love that. Shepard and Liara can also argue if you pick the right (or wrong if you don't like conflict in relationships) choices.

I personally like Liara in her haughty and angry moments as it shows her less imperfect sides. Too perfect and a a character becomes boring and/or creepy. Image IPB

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Xilizhra wrote...

That’s just because BioWare couldn’t be arsed to write carried-over romances differently from new ones, and the newbies need to have that development to climax.

So how should that scene have gone?


It should have been a part of a reasonable, established relationship. I had some suggestions in the LI improvements thread.

#43164
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Wulfram wrote...

I tend to assume the Reaper War actually goes on for at least a couple of months - filled up mostly with the sort of missions that are implied by the planet scanning missions - despite the game sort of implying it only lasts a few days. In which case I can't see Shepard and Liara waiting until just before Cronos.

Yeah, I think so too. I never really thought about the flow of time in the game, but that changed since I started writing about my current playthrough. It's hard to say for sure of course, but I think that, for example, trips between systems can easily take up to a few days, even with the speed of FTL travel. And during that time, well... my femshep has finally broken out of the friendzone and into bondmate territory and I like to imagine she and Liara at least sleep in the same bed at night when the opportunity presents itself.

Sorry to barge in so suddenly, by the way. :P I have posted her a few times before, but I mainly stick to reading this topic every once in a while. I loved Liara in ME1, but I lost my interest a bit in since ME2. She had become so... distant. Even after LotSB, she still just treats you as a friend and seldom as something more during the first half of ME3. Maybe it is perfectly explainable, but it bugged me. The scenes at the end (her romance scene, her 'gift' in London and lastly the evacuation) made up for it though. And now that I have begun making up my own "between-mission-interactions" and get to portray her more like a mix between her current personality and how she was during ME1, I really fell in love with her again.

#43165
Xilizhra

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lillitheris wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

That’s just because BioWare couldn’t be arsed to write carried-over romances differently from new ones, and the newbies need to have that development to climax.

So how should that scene have gone?


It should have been a part of a reasonable, established relationship. I had some suggestions in the LI improvements thread.

Well, this should be an interesting read... I'm not sure if it can make it into DLC, but it's things to remember.

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Wulfram wrote...

I tend to assume the Reaper War actually goes on for at least a couple of months - filled up mostly with the sort of missions that are implied by the planet scanning missions - despite the game sort of implying it only lasts a few days. In which case I can't see Shepard and Liara waiting until just before Cronos.


I myself think it's more than that. I don't bother looking at the missions, I think of the amount of effort that went into the Crucile; materials + manpower. I'd give the conflict a 2 year span at the most. *shrug*

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PMC65 wrote...

Akernis wrote...
When does she do that? I can't seem to remember.


It starts at the beginning ... When Ashley compliments Liara looking great at 106 Liara is quick to say "for a short-lived species ..." Smack! I think asari do this not out of spite or meanness though.

"A century may seem like a long time to a short lived spicies like yours but amongst the asari I am barely considered more than  a child..."

I alway took that line as more of her looking down on herself and simply stating facts, but I can see where you are coming from.

Also I agree with you that Liara is far from perfect, her coldness in vanilla ME2 untill you get through to her amongst other things proves that. As you said: nobody is perfect. But we love her even so, or sometimes even more for that.

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With the building of the crucible, traveling, missions, etc the thought of just a few months seems too short for me ... I look at ME3 as a 2-3 year struggle and even that seems short to build that baby. I know, its just a game. : )

As to how often Shepard and Liara do the watusi ... Initially Shepard carried some resentment at Liara not visiting her on Earth. Yes, yes Mars and all. Whatever. EW was hurt and there was no hokey pokey for awhile. Once they worked through that little problem then the war, responsibilities, guilt, etc got in the way and so their sex life was not all that it should be. Bits of heaven are stolen now and then but it is not as often as either one would have liked. Dang those reapers!

EDIT: Akernis - I always headcanoned that after Liara and Shepard grew close she called her on that in a teasing way ... Then in ME3 when Shepard picks on Liara about her age for me it was a flashback to that meeting and it made me smile.

Modifié par PMC65, 07 juillet 2012 - 12:08 .


#43169
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*hugs PMC*

:kissing:

#43170
karmensandiego

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*crickets*

wow...

*looks around*

:huh:

:crying:

:(

*slinks off*

#43171
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Xilizhra wrote...

Hmmm. So you think Liara would be on the dominant side there?


Well if the sex scenes we see in- game are anything to go by then yep, my Shep wouldn't mind letting her be the Commander:whistle: Even the look she gives Shep before she approaches your bed in ME3 man it would make you blush:wub: 

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Out of curiosity I watched all of Femshep's romance goodbyes at the evacuation scene and maybe it's just me but I thought Jen put the most emotion into Liara's.:wub: The two of them just have so much natural chemistry, they really bring out the best in one another in regards to femshep/Liara^_^ Also I heard that Liara is Jen's fav character so that helps too, the woman has impeccable taste;)

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#43172
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karmensandiego wrote...

*crickets*

wow...

*looks around*

:huh:

:crying:

:(

*slinks off*

Don't worry, pauses are frequent. *hugs*

As for Liara... I admit, I do find the concept of domLiara to be rather hot.

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Xilizhra wrote...


Don't worry, pauses are frequent. *hugs*

As for Liara... I admit, I do find the concept of domLiara to be rather hot.


now that I think about it. yes kinda hot ^^

#43174
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Xilizhra wrote...

As for Liara... I admit, I do find the concept of domLiara to be rather hot.


Yup. For my Shep as their relationship develops they're both comfortable with either taking the "dominant" role, but Liara doesn't really get that until after the events of ME1 where she grows in confidence. I had so much fun writing stuff about Liara taking charge into my fic.

Edit: Oh cool, top. Gimme a min.

Edit 2: Try this one:
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Ravii wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


Don't worry, pauses are frequent. *hugs*

As for Liara... I admit, I do find the concept of domLiara to be rather hot.


now that I think about it. yes kinda hot ^^


Only kinda?:o