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[Xilizhra]

My own take on Liara, too, is that both my own Shepard (originally named Diana, but now that the name's redundant, I'm considering naming her Jana or Sinead) and she are switches, and can both assume a dominant role but don't really take those outside of the bedroom. Of course, I can see a portion of their lives where they themselves don't really leave the bedroom either, but that's their secluded honeymoon before quietly returning to galactic society.

[Ravii]

I mean VERYYYY HOT and yeah I always enjoyed it in a fic where liara is dominant over shep and gives her direction. ^.^

[Akernis]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

As for Liara... I admit, I do find the concept of domLiara to be rather hot.

Yup. For my Shep as their relationship develops they're both comfortable with either taking the "dominant" role

That would be my take on it as well, that they are equal and that both of them are assertive, neither is actually "dominating" but both may take the lead depending on situation etc.

[PMC65]

karmensandiego wrote...

*hugs PMC*

*hugs back* Was playing ME3 ... sorry for the delay!

Liara is a much more skilled lover then Shepard ... asari have a gift in that area ... and so while Shepard may believe that she is in control it is just an illusion that Liara allows. When Liara does pull back the curtain and shows Shepard her skills ... Shepard is always left a little speechless!  

EDIT: frudi - Ashley was complimenting Liara and that was her response? Not a thank you or a "well, I am young for an asari." No, she highlights the lack of years we live. Factual? Yes. But she could have said it different. Javik also says things that are factual ... does that make him less arrogant? No. Facts do not give a person license to be rude and the comment had it been aimed at you might not have seemed so "factual" but jerkish.

Modifié par PMC65, 07 juillet 2012 - 01:01 .

[Xilizhra]

I agree with most of the other things you said though, especially about liking her even more for her imperfections.
Also a question, it kind of ties into the whole imperfections discussion - iirc you mentioned you played through the Ardat-Yakshi monastery mission a day or two ago and you brought Liara with you. Any comment on the (albeit brief) interaction between Liara and Samara? To me it seemed like Liara had that cold, disdainful tone she sometimes uses when dealing with people or situations she doesn't approve of. Seemed weird to see her talk to a Justicar in a way she otherwise does to the likes of Wreav or Javik (when he pisses her off) or what's-his-name-that-replaces-Kirrahe.

I don't think Liara likes the justicars. At all. I'm not sure why, but I did get a strong vibe of disapproval there.

Yep, I agree, got the same impression from the in-game sex scenes. Even in the ME1 scene it seems like it's her taking charge, at least at the start.
That's why it always bothers me when most fanfic writers portray Liara as a more submissive type.

I think they do because Liara is a virgin in ME1, while Shepard isn't. Also, Shepard is far more extroverted than Liara. However, that's far from all the determining criteria...

[Ravii]

PMC65 wrote...

*hugs back* Was playing ME3 ... sorry for the delay!

Liara is a much more skilled lover then Shepard ... asari have a gift in that area ... and so while Shepard may believe that she is in control it is just an illusion that Liara allows. When Liara does pull back the curtain and shows Shepard her skills ... Shepard is always left a little speechless!  

well said. xD

[Akernis]

Xilizhra wrote...
I don't think Liara likes the justicars. At all. I'm not sure why, but I did get a strong vibe of disapproval there.

I got that as well, I don't think it is that strange; a Justicar follows their code no matter what, and that code is not only extremely strict but only takes consideration for law not individual morals, Samara's code would have her kill her daugther if she did not commit suicide for examble. 

Liara has her own very strong morals that stands apart from the lawful black/white of the Justicar, furthermore at the point of the Adat-Yaksi Monestary  Liara has become the Shadow Broker, which - despite Liara using the position "honestly" and with her morals intact and to help others - is still one of the most illicit positions in the galaxy.

While I am very glad we never get to see it in-game I would not be surprised that if Samara learned Liara's position that the Justicar Code would command her to try to either apprehend or kill Liara, I would never allow that to happen of course, but I would rather not have to fight Samara over it. 

[CrimsonN7]

frudi wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Hmmm. So you think Liara would be on the dominant side there?

Well if the sex scenes we see in- game are anything to go by then yep, my Shep wouldn't mind letting her be the Commander:whistle: Even the look she gives Shep before she approaches your bed in ME3 man it would make you blush:wub:

Yep, I agree, got the same impression from the in-game sex scenes. Even in the ME1 scene it seems like it's her taking charge, at least at the start .
That's why it always bothers me when most fanfic writers portray Liara as a more submissive type.

Yeah my Shep is just putty in her hands, yes ma'am anything you say, perfectly happy to let Liara take the reins, she knows what she's doing, all asari do, ahem best lay in the galaxy:whistle: I think Rae's work just shows how assertive Liara can be:wub: 



Poor Shep trying to catch her breath after another vigorous workout:P Jeez T'Soni give me a minute;)

[Xilizhra]

For some reason, I just got a mental image of some kind of battle where someone's trying to kill Liara, and Shepard and Aethyta join forces to protect her. Along with Liara herself being in the battle, of course.

Although, regarding Samara, she can easily find out about Liara being the Shadow Broker if she goes aboard the ship.

[PMC65]

I thought Liara seem to respect the justicars in ME2 when she talks to Shepard but in ME3 her attitude towards Samara is not so nice. I think that may have more to do about Samara as a mother though then her being a justicar.

[Yuqi]

FdL_Ananas wrote...


Don't know if it would necessarily have to be the "complete dump", but other than that I agree. Would have been nice if there was a bigger difference between the two paths. Guess it's just one more of many instances where the game suffered from the discrepancy between BWs ambition and budget.

It was annoying because I had saves just to see the 'consequences of a **** Shepard, and you get pretty much nothing.

Unless you dumped Miranda in ME3...then..YOUR A BAD PERSON!

Re:Thane
HE was going to die, it was inevitable. Whats funny is if you dump him in ME2, he mentions it  in ME3 by saying 'We both knew this would hapen siha."(or something along those lines)

PMC65 wrote...

Liara has lines throughout the trilogy that can be rough if you take the right tree choices ... There are many choices in the red path that show Liara to be not so innocent ... and I love that. Shepard and Liara can also argue if you pick the right (or wrong if you don't like conflict in relationships) choices.

I personally like Liara in her haughty and angry moments as it shows her less imperfect sides. Too perfect and a a character becomes boring and/or creepy. 

^ Which is why I prefer  the Renegade romance..(With the exception of the break-up and really bad lines.)
I didn't even mind the EC 'youll just slow me down' line. Renegade in ME3 makes a much better soldier in parts.

Wrex Showdown is my favorite Renegade moment.(great writing which most will never see..)

[CrimsonN7]

Xilizhra wrote...

Although, regarding Samara, she can easily find out about Liara being the Shadow Broker if she goes aboard the ship.

I would have been pretty stoked if there had been some little dialogue scene between these two, anything regarding asari culture always peaks my interest and I would have loved to have known what Samara thinks of Liara and Shep's bond? Also how would Liara greet a Justicar, how do the younger asari interact with the elders of their communities, what is expected of them, if they defy their elders wishes what are the consequences as we know they greatly respect the wisdom of the Matriarchs and so on. Samara was one of my fav squadmate from ME2, I loved hearing her stories and otherworldly wisdom, such an interesting character.

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:06 .

[karmensandiego]

PMC65 wrote...

karmensandiego wrote...

*hugs PMC*

*hugs back* Was playing ME3 ... sorry for the delay!

Hmph.  Don't let it happen again.


I wanted to find a good "dominant Liara" pic to contribute but I kinda thought after how googling "Liara Omni-Tool" turned out, it probably wouldn't be a good idea.

But I did find this!  I thought it was cute.

[PMC65]

Yuqi - I saw the Wrex showdown and it is funny but sad. I normally pick the harder lines when dealing with the krogan and turian and the softer lines when dealing with the asari and salarian ... I just think that the K&T would respect strength (renegade) and the A&S diplomacy (paragon).

With Liara I like a good mix ... getting her angry on Illium in ME2 is sexy! And now I am thinking of that scene in Italian! Would the word delizioso fit?

EDIT:      karmen ... don't google liara + javik either!

Modifié par PMC65, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:10 .

[karmensandiego]

PMC65 wrote...

Yuqi - I saw the Wrex showdown and it is funny but sad. I normally pick the harder lines when dealing with the krogan and turian and the softer lines when dealing with the asari and salarian ... I just think that the K&T would respect strength (renegade) and the A&S diplomacy (paragon).

With Liara I like a good mix ... getting her angry on Illium in ME2 is sexy! And now I am thinking of that scene in Italian! Would the word delizioso fit?

EDIT:      karmen ... don't google liara + javik either!

My impulse control being what it is, you know I had to do it...

I didn't see anything bad!  What am I looking for?

I did find this and laughed out loud.

[moreeman06]

karmensandiego wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Yuqi - I saw the Wrex showdown and it is funny but sad. I normally pick the harder lines when dealing with the krogan and turian and the softer lines when dealing with the asari and salarian ... I just think that the K&T would respect strength (renegade) and the A&S diplomacy (paragon).

With Liara I like a good mix ... getting her angry on Illium in ME2 is sexy! And now I am thinking of that scene in Italian! Would the word delizioso fit?

EDIT:      karmen ... don't google liara + javik either!

My impulse control being what it is, you know I had to do it...

I didn't see anything bad!  What am I looking for?

I did find this and laughed out loud.

Biotic God gets the ladies....  Tiberius is gonna have some words with him...  Oh well time to go finish up the next ch. of my fanfic or play DAO not sure which yet...

[CrimsonN7]

karmensandiego wrote...


My impulse control being what it is, you know I had to do it...

I didn't see anything bad!  What am I looking for?

I did find this and laughed out loud.

OMG It's the Biotic God, I think he died and went to heaven, us mere mortals were never ready for his greatness:lol: Although in that scene Yuqi the renegade option is epic, and Jack's "that was mean but damn funny" line makes me lol whenever I take her with me:D

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:25 .

[PMC65]

karmen - You missed some 3D stuff ... Wheelbarrow pics for starter.

Moving now to Cronos Station and plan on taking Liara this time ... took James the first time.

[Yuqi]

PMC65 wrote...

Yuqi - I saw the Wrex showdown and it is funny but sad. I normally pick the harder lines when dealing with the krogan and turian and the softer lines when dealing with the asari and salarian ... I just think that the K&T would respect strength (renegade) and the A&S diplomacy (paragon).

With Liara I like a good mix ... getting her angry on Illium in ME2 is sexy! And now I am thinking of that scene in Italian! Would the word delizioso fit?

EDIT:      karmen ... don't google liara + javik either!

Killing Samara and falere  makes her mad. I can never bring myself to do it.. Hmmn I always just use Renegade most of the time, I dont really take a neautral position on anything in me3.(Because you can't..cough)

I guess delizioso would fit, but I'd use: assolutamente divino:wub:

Edit: Why has nobody uploaded the freckleshep/liara romance (Run to the beam.) yet?

Modifié par Yuqi, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:45 .

[d32f123]

karmensandiego wrote...
I did find this and laughed out loud.

*snip*

aha

Modifié par d32f123, 07 juillet 2012 - 03:10 .

[LanceSolous13]

Hello Liara Fans.

So, I'm wiritng a fan fic to basically continue where a High EMS Destroy left off with Shepard's recovery and his friends sort of being by his side for the recovery.

I'm coming to you guys for a bit of help. During my play through the series, I never could get that into Liara's character. Anyways, I really want to do her character justice in the fic for fans of her character, but I'm having trouble writing her.

I was hoping you guys might give me some insight into her character and some advice on how to write her since you guys are her Fanbase.

The help would be much appreceated.

[d32f123]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Hello Liara Fans.

So, I'm wiritng a fan fic to basically continue where a High EMS Destroy left off with Shepard's recovery and his friends sort of being by his side for the recovery.

I'm coming to you guys for a bit of help. During my play through the series, I never could get that into Liara's character. Anyways, I really want to do her character justice in the fic for fans of her character, but I'm having trouble writing her.

I was hoping you guys might give me some insight into her character and some advice on how to write her since you guys are her Fanbase.

The help would be much appreceated.

I think guys who can help you are offline, wait a little bit