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[Han Shot First]

JayPlays wrote...
A question just sprung to mind. Asari skin, is it smooth or rough?
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I think it is smooth, because I've read that the art team used aquatic creatures as inspiration for the Asari. That, and the Asari appear to be a mammalian species. Since the Asari seem to have evolved from the Thessian equivalent of aquatic mammals, I think their skin would be smooth just like seals or dolphins.

Also, the Asari being soft is mentioned by two Krogan in Mass Effect 2. When Grunt discusses the imprints on how to kill the various species in hand-to-hand combat, he mentions that both humans and Asari are 'soft.' He then adds that you have to work the blade a bit with Turians, and that Quarians apparently have tough hide as well. Since Grunt specifically mentions Asari with humans when naming the 'soft' species, their skin probably isn't much different from ours as far as texture/toughness.

The two Krogan who argue about fish in the Presidium lake will also discuss Asari. One of them will say that he wants to screw the Asari Consort, because it would be 'decadent.' The other is completely disgusted, and complains that the Asari are 'squishy.'

I love how Liara changed from Me1 to 3. Out of all members she changed the most and I like it.

So I do. I love how she evolved from being shy and a bit out of her element when you first meet her in Mass Effect 1, to being confident and assertive in Mass Effect 3. While her personality is different in many ways than her mother, you do see some flashes of Benezia in Liara as the series progresses. Despite her usually kind persona, she isn't someone to be trifled with.

Just ask Nyxeris.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 07 juillet 2012 - 04:31 .

[Ravii]

Han Shot First wrote...

I love how Liara changed from Me1 to 3. Out of all members she changed the most and I like it.

So I do. I love how she evolved from being shy and a bit out of her element when you first meet her in Mass Effect 1, to being confident and assertive in Mass Effect 3. While her personality is different in many ways than her mother, you do see some flashes of Benezia in Liara as the series progresses. Despite her usually kind persona, she isn't someone to be trifled with.

Just ask Nyxeris.

Also in LotSB you see how much stress fall of her shoulders after you helped her. KISSING AND HUGGING TIME.

[lillitheris]

Han Shot First wrote...

Also, the Asari being soft is mentioned by two Krogan in Mass Effect 2. When Grunt discusses the imprints on how to kill the various species in hand-to-hand combat, he mentions that both humans and Asari are 'soft.' He then adds that you have to work the blade a bit with Turians, and that Quarians apparently have tough hide as well. Since Grunt specifically mentions Asari with humans when naming the 'soft' species, their skin probably isn't much different from ours as far as texture/toughness.

Grunt is only talking about the spine, in interest of accuracy. Scales wouldn’t necessarily make one non-soft, as has been mentioned…but I think it’d be noted in the codex if it actually was scales like a snake for example. But who knows.

[ratzerman]

Systemlord Baal wrote...

ratzerman wrote...
and allowed some of her awkwardness to shine through on occasion.

Yepp and that's something I loved about ME3. I mean, Liara changed a lot during the trilogy, mostly on the outside (imo), but in ME3 (and also in LotSB) you could see that she's still in there.

Heh.... yeah, I was shocked the first time I saw her final ME3 model. I was not a fan of some of her "enhancements" but I got used to them eventually. 

[lillitheris]

JadeDragonMTR wrote...

Just uploaded this fanfic, please feel free to comment and PM there.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8295194/1/

I’ll add yours to the big list of fanfic (see link in signature), if that’s OK?

Speaking of, I wonder if I’m missing many…I need some more info from CrazyGreggy, and I think I’m missing the two newer ones from Theodoro. Anyone else’s not in there? If you can, please submit yours there (or here, or PM, if you like) — but only after checking it’s not there! I think the list is closing 300 fics total…

[Theodoro]

Han Shot First wrote...
The two Krogan who argue about fish in the Presidium lake will also discuss Asari. One of them will say that he wants to screw the Asari Consort, because it would be 'decadent.' The other is completely disgusted, and complains that the Asari are 'squishy.'

Compared to the krogan, everyone else that is not Thresher Maws must be squishy to them! :happy:

lillitheris wrote...
Speaking of, I wonder if I’m missing many…I need some more info from CrazyGreggy, and I think I’m missing the
two newer ones from Theodoro. Anyone else’s not in there? If you can, please submit yours there (or here, or PM, if you like) — but only after checking it’s not there! I think the list is closing 300 fics total…

I'll post in the Fanfic thread with details about my newest stories as soon as I can!

Modifié par Theodoro, 07 juillet 2012 - 04:50 .

[Han Shot First]

lillitheris wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Also, the Asari being soft is mentioned by two Krogan in Mass Effect 2. When Grunt discusses the imprints on how to kill the various species in hand-to-hand combat, he mentions that both humans and Asari are 'soft.' He then adds that you have to work the blade a bit with Turians, and that Quarians apparently have tough hide as well. Since Grunt specifically mentions Asari with humans when naming the 'soft' species, their skin probably isn't much different from ours as far as texture/toughness.

Grunt is only talking about the spine, in interest of accuracy. Scales wouldn’t necessarily make one non-soft, as has been mentioned…but I think it’d be noted in the codex if it actually was scales like a snake for example. But who knows.

I got the impression that he was talking about how difficult (or easy) it was to get to the spine, but I could also be remembering that dialogue incorrectly. Even so, the other Krogan does refer to the Asari as being squishy. I can't imagine that adjective being used for them if their skin was scaly and tough.

One other thing that I think points to the Asari having soft skin, is that Liara seems to have the same range of facial expressions as humans do. I don't think that would be possible if the Asari had scaly snake-like skin.

[Aristobulus500]

Snakes scales are very sleek and smooth actually, it's not rough or tough. As Akernis said, to touch a snake is actually something very pleasant. It's quite a bit different than a lizard's scales - especially something like an iguana or an alligator or something.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

*brandish a bat at everyone*  Essential Element!!!

[TheDonk95]

^That's exactly how I imagine Liara's skin. Scaly, but still smooth and feeling amazing, just like a snake.

[Han Shot First]

The thing with snakes and other scaled reptiles though, is that scales are not as flexible as skin. For that reason snakes have much smaller scales around their mouths or other parts of their body so that the scales don't restrict flexibility.  In high res images ofLiara's face, the skin pattern doesn't appear to be any smaller than it is on the rest of her body. If she were scaled, she wouldn't be capable of the same range of facial expression as humans.

In another discussion on Asari skin someone had posted images of rhino and elephant skin, and the pattern of Liara's skin actually more closely resembled that than scaled reptiles. Of course, neither rhinos or elephants are soft.

[Han Shot First]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.

They don't call em asari commandos for nothing:whistle:



How did Shep get any work done?

Not to sound like a perv, but Liara's body is totally underrated.

Miranda and Tali get the most mention, but I think Liara has them both beat.

[ratzerman]

Han Shot First wrote...
Miranda and Tali get the most mention, but I think Liara has them both beat.

*suddenly has flashbacks of all the "DEM HIPS" and "DAT ASS" threads*

[Tealjaker94]

Han Shot First wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Speaking of which, I'm glad that Liara didn't have to feel the curse of underwear... a shame that Shepard did.

They don't call em asari commandos for nothing:whistle:



How did Shep get any work done?

Not to sound like a perv, but Liara's body is totally underrated.

Miranda and Tali get the most mention, but I think Liara has them both beat.

Agreed. I personally never got the attraction to Tali. You never know what could be under that suit. Apparently a stock photo.

[Barquiel]

ratzerman wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
Miranda and Tali get the most mention, but I think Liara has them both beat.

*suddenly has flashbacks of all the "DEM HIPS" and "DAT ASS" threads*

Because unlike Miranda or Tali, Liara wears at least light armor

[Aristobulus500]

Han Shot First wrote...

The thing with snakes and other scaled reptiles though, is that scales are not as flexible as skin. For that reason snakes have much smaller scales around their mouths or other parts of their body so that the scales don't restrict flexibility.  In high res images ofLiara's face, the skin pattern doesn't appear to be any smaller than it is on the rest of her body. If she were scaled, she wouldn't be capable of the same range of facial expression as humans.

In another discussion on Asari skin someone had posted images of rhino and elephant skin, and the pattern of Liara's skin actually more closely resembled that than scaled reptiles. Of course, neither rhinos or elephants are soft.

It's worth pointing out then, that Asari are not actually either snakes, nor are they rhinos or elephants. They are Asari!

We're just picking out animals their skin is probably most similar to, but I've never meant to say Asari skin is exactly like a snakes, and I'm sure you don't mean to say that it's exactly like a rhino's or elephants either - precisely because as you say, their skin is really rough and coarse, and doesn't seem to fit the soft and sleek style the Asari likely have.

[ratzerman]

Barquiel wrote...
Because unlike Miranda or Tali, Liara wears at least light armor

YES! I loved being able to put Liara in actual armor again. I can't find a decent picture of it right now, but I had her wearing her "heavy" armor pretty much all the time. She looked incredible in it.

[PMC65]

Akernis wrote...
I really like that one , I so hate the fact that we could not comfort he pproberly after Thessia, that scene was so set up for a quiet embrace where Shepard just holds Liara nad comforts her, and instead we geta pepe talk that more or less amounts to "get back to work".

I actually liked how they handled it because it fit how my Shepards (both romanced & non) would react but for those who would have preferred a more lover version or even non-friendly version ... those could have been options as well.

Shepard has just been beaten by an idiot and lost the one missing piece to the weapon that appears to be their only hope in defeating the reapers. She is in a dark place and comforting someone else is really not on the top of her list. She is snapping at both Joker and EDI and in my headcanon she is snapping at everyone else.

It was hard watching her report in to both the asari councilor and Alliance brass that she.had.failed.

Cut to her seeing Ash who tells her that Liara is hurting and offers to comfort her ... thanks Ash! Then Tali asks Shepard to talk to her and really Shepard is pretty raw herself in this moment. When Shepard talks to Liara she is pep talking herself as much as she is Liara and both women need to be put back in the fight not hugging & crying. So Shepard gives her a soldier's speech which helps both of them. They can hug and cry later.

I also thought it showed how much of an asari Liara was ... here she had seen worlds fall, husks being made of all the other species but the war did not really seem to impact her until her own people and world were touched. She, like the other asari, did not believe that they would fall to anything ... arrogance? Who knows. As she looked at the asari husk in such horror ... horror that her people were being turned into those things ... her people. Never mind that she had been fighting human, turian and god knows what else husks ... it did not offend her or anger her until it was her kind. I tip my hat at Bioware for that even though it makes non-Liara fans all wacky-doodle at her for it. For me it was keeping in line with the asari mind set of their superiority. 

[lillitheris]

PMC65 wrote...

Akernis wrote...
I really like that one , I so hate the fact that we could not comfort he pproberly after Thessia, that scene was so set up for a quiet embrace where Shepard just holds Liara nad comforts her, and instead we geta pepe talk that more or less amounts to "get back to work".

I actually liked how they handled it because it fit how my Shepards (both romanced & non) would react but for those who would have preferred a more lover version or even non-friendly version ... those could have been options as well.

Sometimes it seems that they actually forgot they were making a game, not a movie. Games can have various options!

I love the story you wove for yourself for it…but ultimately it’s just that no matter how good the story is, it’s not going to fit right for all Shepards.

[mumba]

With Benezia's bloodline, I think its a safe assumption that Liara has the nicest body, (for my preferences anyway) The hourglass look is perfect IMO. 
I always laugh when I think of the  fact that Bioware used camera angles to expose Miranda's "Dat ass" throughout ME2 and ME3. 

[PMC65]

lillitheris wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Akernis wrote...
I really like that one , I so hate the fact that we could not comfort he pproberly after Thessia, that scene was so set up for a quiet embrace where Shepard just holds Liara nad comforts her, and instead we geta pepe talk that more or less amounts to "get back to work".

I actually liked how they handled it because it fit how my Shepards (both romanced & non) would react but for those who would have preferred a more lover version or even non-friendly version ... those could have been options as well.

Sometimes it seems that they actually forgot they were making a game, not a movie. Games can have various options!

I love the story you wove for yourself for it…but ultimately it’s just that no matter how good the story is, it’s not going to fit right for all Shepards.

That is why I said that a more lover or non-friend version could have been options as well. There wasn't really many options in ME3 ... you pick a path and bam 20 minutes later you get to pick again.

But I only shared my headcanon to explain why that scene worked for me ... others have different Shepard & Liara's as we can see reading this thread.  

[lillitheris]

^ Precisely!

…

I’m clearly having a bad communication day today.

[Akernis]

PMC65 wrote...
*snip*

I don't agree with that, but to each his/her own.
I think the option should most definately have been there, those who do not want it can avoid taking it, they could have had the pep talk be a renegade interrupt and the hug be a paragon interrupt, one following after the other if the first was not chosen.
I think that both could have used the embrace (well my Shep anyway), Shepard taking as much strenght from Liara's pressence as vice versa.

Edit: it seems I misunderstood some of what you meant, I don't agree with the asari mindset thing you said but as you said more options are definately needed.

Modifié par Akernis, 07 juillet 2012 - 05:59 .

[DOsquareZER]

I actually agree with PMC's interpretation of it - it's close to resembling my own head canon of the events. It just makes more sense to me then the touchy feely, lovey dovery hug it out scenario.
aww damn it crappy top.

Liara's inner renegade is poking through - that cheater...

by leeny-pie @ deviantart.

Also a little IG screenshot magic for your viewing pleasure.  classic LotSB.

Modifié par doozer12, 07 juillet 2012 - 06:08 .

[JadeDragonMTR]

lillitheris wrote...

JadeDragonMTR wrote...

Just uploaded this fanfic, please feel free to comment and PM there.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8295194/1/

I’ll add yours to the big list of fanfic (see link in signature), if that’s OK?

Speaking of, I wonder if I’m missing many…I need some more info from CrazyGreggy, and I think I’m missing the two newer ones from Theodoro. Anyone else’s not in there? If you can, please submit yours there (or here, or PM, if you like) — but only after checking it’s not there! I think the list is closing 300 fics total…

Great! Please feel free to add. Thanks!