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#43501
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Since the asari only copy or replicate their own dna through melding through electrical impulses nothing of the partner is being added that is why asari can reproduce with both men or women because they're not taking any dna from the other partner


The ‘science’ is a bit vague…sometimes the second parent’s DNA comes across as a randomizer on the mother’s; at other times, the selection process is more deterministic…the mother identifies desirable traits, and tries to adjust the resultant DNA to contain similarities.


Up to a certain point they can alter the DNA of her bond-mate. That's how I understand it.

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Something I never understood about Asari reproduction. If an Asari-Human couple were to have kids, what would the Asari baby look like, Facial structure wise? Maybe even height wise? (if the human is fairly short) obviously the baby would be an Asari 100% of the time but how would it look? you wouldn't see an Asari with a Turian shaped Nose if her father/mother was a Turian for example. but if a Human father/mother were to, for example, have a peculiar shaped nose would the Asari have a chance to be born with a similar shaped nose? Same thing with personality, would the baby have a quick-temper if the father/mother had a quick-temper as well?

Just something that's been on my mind today that I couldn't figure out. (sorry for the bad English).




Since the asari only copy or replicate their own dna through melding through electrical impulses nothing of the partner is being added that is why asari can reproduce with both men or women because they're not taking any dna from the other partner


If that were the case (which I remember now) wouldn't all Asari look identical? 



The process somehow randomizes many of the gene sequences that get passed onto the child, so that it is a unique individual rather than a clone of the mother.






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How long do you think Shepard would be hospitalized for following Mass Effect 3? This is assuming of course, that you picked the Destroy ending and Shepard survived it.
 

Even if Shepard survives. (I prefer control myself.) I can't see him or her ever healing completely, from wounds like that. ( Not to mention pyscological damage.) It's likely Shepard has spinal injuries as well, so my thought is that he  or she would be permantly disabled, and declared unfit for duty.(shrugs)



Although I think Shep would probably be in the hospital or rehab facilities for at least several months if not longer, I don't think he or she would be permanently disabled. After all much greater damage was done when Shepard was killed following the attack on the Normandy SR1. They couldn't even tell if Shepard's corpse was male or female at the time, and considering that he or she plumeted to the surface of a planet, the spine had to have been shattered. After the Lazarus Project it is possible that Shepard even has a spine that is either partially or entirely synthetic.

I think Shep probably has many surgeries in store and is going to emerge with a few more synthetic bits, but won't be permanently disabled.

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Han Shot First wrote...
Although I think Shep would probably be in the hospital or rehab facilities for at least several months if not longer, I don't think he or she would be permanently disabled. After all much greater damage was done when Shepard was killed following the attack on the Normandy SR1. They couldn't even tell if Shepard's corpse was male or female at the time, and considering that he or she plumeted to the surface of a planet, the spine had to have been shattered. After the Lazarus Project it is possible that Shepard even has a spine that is either partially or entirely synthetic.

I think Shep probably has many surgeries in store and is going to emerge with a few more synthetic bits, but won't be permanently disabled.


Agreed:P

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considering that he or she plumeted to the surface of a planet, the spine had to have been shattered.

Really? Are you sure? I'd have thought that the biggest concern with planetary re-entry would be planetary re-entry. You know why people are not constantly hit and killed by human-sized asteroids? Because they burn up in the atmosphere.:wizard: So there's clearly space magic at work here and all bets are off when you're using deduction.
Cronos Station logs say that Shepard was clinically brain dead, so they fixed that too. :wizard: Somehow

Let's just pretend that Shepard ended up "merely" clinically dead in a stable orbit, shall we? Less space magic required that way.

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I feel that if they brought Shepard back in ME2 with the Lazarus project they can do it again, the good thing is that Shepard isn't dead, Miranda is still alive and I'm sure that Liara will look for Shepard again, so in my head Miranda will help fix Shepard again, I think it will take some months

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LiarasShield wrote...



Since the asari only copy or replicate their own dna through melding through electrical impulses nothing of the partner is being added that is why asari can reproduce with both men or women because they're not taking any dna from the other partner


If this is really the case,why it even matters if an asari meld with an alien or another asari and why purebloods have a higher risk of having ardat yakshi daughters? It doesnt make sense.

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

 

considering that he or she plumeted to the surface of a planet, the spine had to have been shattered.

Really? Are you sure? I'd have thought that the biggest concern with planetary re-entry would be planetary re-entry. You know why people are not constantly hit and killed by human-sized asteroids? Because they burn up in the atmosphere.:wizard: So there's clearly space magic at work here and all bets are off when you're using deduction.
Cronos Station logs say that Shepard was clinically brain dead, so they fixed that too. :wizard: Somehow

Let's just pretend that Shepard ended up "merely" clinically dead in a stable orbit, shall we? Less space magic required that way.



While I would have preferred that Shepard's body was recovered from orbit, as that would explain why it was mostly still intact, I believe the comics state it was recovered from Alchera. If I'm remembering that correctly, Shep falling planetside would be canon.

If I'm wrong on that, someone please correct me. As that would enable me to head canon Shep being recovered in space. Posted Image


If this is really the case,why it even matters if an asari meld with an alien or another asari and why purebloods have a higher risk of having ardat yakshi daughters? It doesnt make sense.


The game doesn't go into a lot of detail, but IIRC it was stated that the partner's genetic code is somehow used a map that helps randomize gene sequences that get passed onto the child from the mother. If both parents carry the AY defect I suppose rather than that gene being altered to be 'normal,' the defect gets passed onto the child and the child has an increased risk of being a full blown Ardat-Yakshi.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 09 juillet 2012 - 07:27 .


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Han Shot First wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Let's just pretend that Shepard ended up "merely" clinically dead in a stable orbit, shall we? Less space magic required that way.


While I would have preferred that Shepard's body was recovered from orbit, as that would explain why it was mostly still intact, I believe the comics state it was recovered from Alchera. If I'm remembering that correctly, Shep falling planetside would be canon.

If I'm wrong on that, someone please correct me. As that would enable me to head canon Shep being recovered in space. Posted Image


This is what I’ve canoned it as, and explained any inconsistencies as little TIM fibbing.

It’s perfectly feasible that the body would have been significantly damaged, unrecognizably even, while still remaining in orbit/in space, and the cool would have helped preserve it even though she was clinically quite dead.

On the other hand, it’s not particularly feasible that there would be anything but cloning material left from a re-entry.

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just wondering if anyone here has done the palaven mission with dead garrus, at the end liara has the cutest smile i have ever seen :)


Yes.
And I agree, it's the most adorable smile ever. ^.^



Don't know how I missed tihs! How do you kill Garrus? What are the requirements? My whole damn team kept surviving in ME2!:lol:

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I dunno... How effective do you think that armor/shielding is?

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I dunno... How effective do you think that armor/shielding is?


About as effective as the writers need it to be.

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I believe if you didn't do his and some of your crews loyalty mission. I saw a vid where he died during the Normandy beeing attacked by these Drone's.

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I saw a vid on youtube of Garrus being carried away by the seeker swarms as well. His screams were actually kind of horrifying. I regretted even watching it, but then Garrus is also one of my favorite characters.

At any rate, I suppose you could get him killed during that sequence by not doing his loyalty mission, and either bringing an unloyal biotic or someone who is poorly suited for the task even when loyal. (anyone other than Samara or Jack)

I believe Garrus will also die if he is unloyal and is one of the two squadmates brought to face the Human Reaper. If I'm not mistaken, in the cutscene after that battle Garrus will be lying dead in the rubble.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:37 .


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Too much death options in that stupid Collector Base!! I'm glad that my crew will always survive. ^^

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lillitheris wrote...

On the other hand, it’s not particularly feasible that there would be anything but cloning material left from a re-entry.

Not necessarily, it depends mostly on how fast the Normandy was moving relative to the planet when it was destroyed and at what altitude above the atmosphere it happened.

If it wasn't moving very fast, which in-game lore/physics allows when still maintaining an orbit through mass effect fields, than Shepard's body could have survived re-entry relatively intact. In fact, it would probably have been the impact with the surface that did most of the damage, not re-entry itself.

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Han Shot First wrote...

I saw a vid on youtube of Garrus being carried away by the seeker swarms as well. His screams were actually kind of horrifying. I regretted even watching it, but then Garrus is also one of my favorite characters.

At any rate, I suppose you could get him killed during that sequence by not doing his loyalty mission, and either bringing an unloyal biotic or someone who is poorly suited for the task even when loyal. (anyone other than Samara or Jack)

I believe Garrus will also die if he is unloyal and is one of the two squadmates brought to face the Human Reaper. If I'm not mistaken, in the cutscene after that battle Garrus will be lying dead in the rubble.


Yes, but make sure one of them is loyal or you will die I believe. Since there will be no one there to help you into the Normandy.

Modifié par mavqt, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:42 .


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frudi wrote...

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On the other hand, it’s not particularly feasible that there would be anything but cloning material left from a re-entry.

Not necessarily, it depends mostly on how fast the Normandy was moving relative to the planet when it was destroyed and at what altitude above the atmosphere it happened.


It was going really fast, really high!

If it wasn't moving very fast, which in-game lore/physics allows when still maintaining an orbit through mass effect fields, than Shepard's body could have survived re-entry relatively intact. In fact, it would probably have been the impact with the surface that did most of the damage, not re-entry itself.


It’s not the fall, it’s the sudden stop. End result is the same.

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 *tears himself away from DAO and MSWord to look at thread*  Yes, I see everyone is still here.  I'm just stopping in to say that I finally finished the third chapter of Recovery,  special thanks to Akernis for being my beta reader and coming up with a solution to a big problem i was having *hi-fives Akernis before giving him a Cain specially modified to fire Blue Babies*  Don't worry this won't hurt any of the babies:D.  Sorry it took so long but i was having some trouble writing this one.  It's longer than the others and It is basically just part 1 of the setup for the end chapter.  I'll try and get the next chapter done quicker that way i can just bombard you guys with ch.4, ch.5, and the epilogue all at once.  Oh and i do need to catch up on the thread again, I swear i'm gone for 2 days and there's ten pages  *grumbles something about FTL speeds*  I shall return, probably tomorrow while I'm bored at work:lol:  Hope you all enjoy.

Recovery ch.3 link

and for those of you that missed the first two chapters

ch.1 link
ch.2 link

#43519
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I haven't played the ECDLC. I'm about to play it tonight or tomorrow. I heard Liara's content was epic and gives you a lot of feelings!

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moreeman06 wrote...
special thanks to Akernis for being my beta reader and coming up with a solution to a big problem i was having *hi-fives Akernis before giving him a Cain specially modified to fire Blue Babies*  Don't worry this won't hurt any of the babiesPosted Image.  


My pleasure *returns high-five, takes Cain and goes hunting for PMC*

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I haven't played the ECDLC. I'm about to play it tonight or tomorrow. I heard Liara's content was epic and gives you a lot of feelings!

It certainly did for me, the first new scene with her particular is fantastic Posted Image, and the other is great as well. 
Even if the ending is still bad (and no happy reunionPosted Image) it is considerably better with the EC, Liara's parts are more than worth having to play the ending again IMO.

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Akernis wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...
special thanks to Akernis for being my beta reader and coming up with a solution to a big problem i was having *hi-fives Akernis before giving him a Cain specially modified to fire Blue Babies*  Don't worry this won't hurt any of the babiesPosted Image.  


My pleasure *returns high-five, takes Cain and goes hunting for PMC*

yesikareyes wrote...

I haven't played the ECDLC. I'm about to play it tonight or tomorrow. I heard Liara's content was epic and gives you a lot of feelings!

It certainly did for me, the first new scene with her particular is fantastic Posted Image, and the other is great as well. 
Even if the ending is still bad (and no happy reunionPosted Image) it is considerably better with the EC, Liara's parts are more than worth having to play the ending again IMO.


*points to akernis's statement*  without giving anything away just listen to Akernis up here, the added Liara content was great.

*looks at Akernis with modified Cain,  puts brown hunting cap and clothes on him*  be vewy vewy quiet i'm hunting PMC.... i mean wabbits *puts finger up to mouth*

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lillitheris wrote...

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Not necessarily, it depends mostly on how fast the Normandy was moving relative to the planet when it was destroyed and at what altitude above the atmosphere it happened.


It was going really fast, really high!

Well, if that's your headcanon, that's fine. All I'm saying is, it's not the only option. The cinematic is, as usual in ME, horrifically unrealistic, so anyone can really make up whatever they want anyway :)

lillitheris wrote...

It’s not the fall, it’s the sudden stop. End result is the same.

My point is, with a low enough re-entry velocity the body would not burn up in the atmosphere. It would eventually hit the ground at something like 200 km/h, slow enough that the body could certainly remain largely intact.


But enough with dwelling on that depressing scene, I'm off to enjoy moreeman's latest chapter ^_^

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Akernis wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...
special thanks to Akernis for being my beta reader and coming up with a solution to a big problem i was having *hi-fives Akernis before giving him a Cain specially modified to fire Blue Babies*  Don't worry this won't hurt any of the babiesPosted Image.  


My pleasure *returns high-five, takes Cain and goes hunting for PMC*


Hey now Akernis, don't you think that's a bit much?  :unsure:I mean a blue baby bombardment of PMC is one thing but siccing the cain on her?  Don't you think she...

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Unless you are Karmen the girly boy ... SHE cares! Posted Image



AKERNIS.  SHE'S OVER HERE.  FOLLOW ME.
 

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So, I'm making my third time through Mass Effect 3.

When you get on the Normandy, Liara has all her Shadow Broker servers and ete. set up in Miranda's old room. So, Where was all this stuff while she was on Mars?

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karmensandiego wrote...

Akernis wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...
special thanks to Akernis for being my beta reader and coming up with a solution to a big problem i was having *hi-fives Akernis before giving him a Cain specially modified to fire Blue Babies*  Don't worry this won't hurt any of the babiesPosted Image.  


My pleasure *returns high-five, takes Cain and goes hunting for PMC*


Hey now Akernis, don't you think that's a bit much?  :unsure:I mean a blue baby bombardment of PMC is one thing but siccing the cain on her?  Don't you think she...

PMC65 wrote...

Unless you are Karmen the girly boy ... SHE cares! Posted Image



AKERNIS.  SHE'S OVER HERE.  FOLLOW ME.
 


*looks up from msWord smiles and shoves brown hunting outfit on Karmen also while handing her a modified Cain*