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Tali may be only one very angry Quarian, but she's an angry Quarian that is very close to Shepard and that would never let her forget who Cerberus really are. She may not present a risk of rebellion, but she'd be there, arguing with Shepard and gnawing at her conscience whenever she might start to get too comfortable with Cerberus' ideologies or methods. That's where Tali's threat to TIM's plans lies; with her around, Shepard is exceedingly less likely to ever 'embrace' Cerberus and their views, even less so with Garrus already around as well.
I mean, TIM's goal was supposedly to keep Shepard away from her old team, alienate her from them and from the Alliance, isolate her, disguise Cerberus' true colours and get her to see them as her only viable option going forward (for the Collector mission and beyond). As if getting Garrus to unexpectedly jeapordise the plan wasn't enough, why would he then bring in one more member of her old crew, the one with by far the most reason to hate Cerberus at that?

As for Liara, I don't really think she has anywhere near the required resources at that point, not for a mission of this scope. Later on as the SB maybe, but not just then and there as just an information broker. She has neither the ship, the personnel nor the money to pay them; heck, she doesn't even have anyone on Illium she trusts enough to hack some terminals for her (I know, that was a far more personally sensitive matter requiring a different level of trust, but it does illustrate that she's nowhere near as powerful at that point as she would later become).


Speaking of power, I see discussion has shifted to Queen Aria and her inevitable return to Omega. I for one can't really get excited about any Retake Omega DLC. I never really cared much for that sh*thole anyway, it can fall right through the Omega 4 relay and straight into the galactic black hole for all the sh*t I give :P. And having to fight swarms of generic Cerberus mooks through its alleys isn't what I'd call sweetening the pot either.
I might change my mind if there's some good Liara content though, I imagine plenty opportunities for verbal (and possibly biotic) jousting between her and Aria :D

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frudi wrote...


Speaking of power, I see discussion has shifted to Queen Aria and her inevitable return to Omega. I for one can't really get excited about any Retake Omega DLC. I never really cared much for that sh*thole anyway, it can fall right through the Omega 4 relay and straight into the galactic black hole for all the sh*t I give :P. And having to fight swarms of generic Cerberus mooks through its alleys isn't what I'd call sweetening the pot either.
I might change my mind if there's some good Liara content though, I imagine plenty opportunities for verbal (and possibly biotic) jousting between her and Aria :D


You may be in luck, because the Leviathan DLC is now confirmed.

If Retake Omega happens at all, it isn't going to be till sometime after Leviathan. Personally I'd rather see a return to Illium than Omega, but would be happy with the addition of any hub world.

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Han Shot First wrote...

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Aria excels at manipulation, and would use her sex appeal to get ahead if necessary, I would see her using sex as another tool to get ahead, she doesn't seem to be the relationship type to be honest.


That was my take on her as well.

I don't think she has a 'healthy' view towards sex and relationships. That isn't to say that Aria wouldn't enjoy sex, just that there would always be undercurrent of manipulation or power politics with her.

Taking Shepard as an example, and I'm only using Shepard as an example since some people wanted Aria to be an LI in ME3, the only way I could see Aria sleeping with Shepard was if she thought it was necessary to cement an Alliance, or if she thought that would sweeten the deal in getting Shepard to retake Omega. Aria certainly wouldn't be the "It's lonley at the top and I just need a hug" type.


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Yup I think the thing with Aria is she is a major control freak and always wants to be two steps ahead of her rivals or business partners, people who want Aria and Shep as possible lovers erm no, goes against Aria's character, she would never mix business with pleasure in regards to a high profile client or allow emotions to cloud her judgement or possibly appear weak to her enemies through a possible romance with Shepard. I would love to see an Omega DLC and would be forever grateful if Liara and Aria had some dialogue scenes together or something, Aria always has a smug cutting remark for any occassion and Liara can bite back too.:D It would be sweet:P

Also Han that's a gorg pic, nice find^_^

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Is this the book Liara was really writing?:lol: I heard the actual book is complete muck though, badly written and so forth, but it's selling like hot cakes.:huh: Meh it's a book that I'll never read anyway, S&M fantasy not my thing.

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 11 juillet 2012 - 05:45 .


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*grabs Nook to download*

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*Shudder* I knew Morinth would come back to haunt me in my dreams.:sick: Liara I was thinking of you the whole time I swear it:P

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 11 juillet 2012 - 06:11 .


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"Plus, if I have to suffer that scumbag staring at my ****** one more time I might have to kill him"
Since we we're talking abou Aria thought I'd throw in one of my favourite lines! :P can't say I wouldn't do the same thing though.

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Han Shot First wrote...

You may be in luck, because the Leviathan DLC is now confirmed.

If Retake Omega happens at all, it isn't going to be till sometime after Leviathan. Personally I'd rather see a return to Illium than Omega, but would be happy with the addition of any hub world.

I know about Leviathan rumours and it seems like that's going to be the first SP DLC we get, but I don't really pay much attention to this 'confirmed' news that spread today/yesterday. As far as I can tell it's just some guys IMDB profile got updated with a 'Leviathen' role in ME3, which pretty much anyone can edit anyway.

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Brooks Mac wrote...

"Plus, if I have to suffer that scumbag staring at my ****** one more time I might have to kill him"
Since we we're talking abou Aria thought I'd throw in one of my favourite lines! :P can't say I wouldn't do the same thing though.


Love that bit with Aria too. Another funny line was when Shep asked her how will she convince Bailey to let out Jona Sederis and her response lean on him, take him out to dinner, talk to dirty to him whatever, he'll respect you one from one boy scout to another.:lol: Her lines are gold, that guy was such a smug lil douche, it's never a good idea to insult Aria:whistle:

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Akernis wrote...

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Established terminology:

0. Melding (=telepathy)
1. Joining (+sex)
(2. Bonding (+something entirely different))

I don't think bonding is anything actually related to their mental abilities, isn't bonding simply the act of becoming bondmates?


It could be…I actually meant to write Conception :blush:

Though since I accidentally mentioned it, I do consider Bonding to be something other than filing paperwork, too — registration is but a tiny part of it — so that’s how I’m writing it in Unity [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]



Aria’s a far more complex character than just the Queen of Omega… That’d get boring after a few centuries, anyway.

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I'm starting to wonder, if Liara is the most cheated on LI. I wonder how many 'new' Liara fans would run back to Miranda/whomever, if they got more content. I'm kind of disgusted actually. Ihave to ask is this an English thing?

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Yuqi wrote...

I'm starting to wonder, if Liara is the most cheated on LI. I wonder how many 'new' Liara fans would run back to Miranda/whomever, if they got more content. I'm kind of disgusted actually. Ihave to ask is this an English thing?

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Why would cheating on Liara be an English thing??:huh:

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d32f123 wrote...

It'd be easy for a single ship to get lost... wouldn't it? :P
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Yuqi wrote...
I'm starting to wonder, if Liara is the most cheated on LI. I wonder how many 'new' Liara fans would run back to Miranda/whomever, if they got more content. I'm kind of disgusted actually. Ihave to ask is this an English thing?

English thing? What?

Doubtlessly, Liara and the VS are the most cheated on LIs after Mass Effect 2 because of their disappointing reunions and the new love interests. LotSB might have changed a lot of people's minds, though, so if I had to guess, the VS is the more cheated LI than Liara is - that combined with the trust issues the VS has with Shepard in the first part of ME3.

I'd never make a playthrough, even a roleplay playthrough where Shepard cheats on his or her LI, since I'm always playing as a Paragon. The mere concept of cheating on an LI is just... Well, it's a bit lowly for my Shepards.

@Akernis:
Agree on both accounts. Another great render, and a really fantastic picture.

Modifié par Theodoro, 11 juillet 2012 - 10:53 .


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Woow, this is one is just so excellent:wub:

Edit: Oops, i think i forgot to thank Akernis P: Thanks Akernis! :D

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Theodoro wrote...

Yuqi wrote...
I'm starting to wonder, if Liara is the most cheated on LI. I wonder how many 'new' Liara fans would run back to Miranda/whomever, if they got more content. I'm kind of disgusted actually. Ihave to ask is this an English thing?

English thing? What?

Doubtlessly, Liara and the VS are the most cheated on LIs after Mass Effect 2 because of their disappointing reunions and the new love interests. LotSB might have changed a lot of people's minds, though, so if I had to guess, the VS is the more cheated LI than Liara is - that combined with the trust issues the VS has with Shepard in the first part of ME3.

I'd never make a playthrough, even a roleplay playthrough where Shepard cheats on his or her LI, since I'm always playing as a Paragon. The mere concept of cheating on an LI is just... Well, it's a bit lowly for my Shepards.

@Akernis:
Agree on both accounts. Another great render, and a really fantastic picture.


Maybe I dont understand the dissapointment, since I started with ME2..

I can understand where the V.S is coming from, but they suffered from trainwreck writing in ME3. I'm not sure if the writers knew what they were doing, there. No matter what language, if the writing is inconsistant people get confused. It felt like chunks of writing were missing.

DevilBeast wrote...
Why would cheating on Liara be an English thing??:huh:


It seems more predominent, on the English boards. I'm sorry my multilingual ability is down, because I'm tired, so my thoughts are not coming across correctly.

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Theodoro wrote...

Yuqi wrote...
I'm starting to wonder, if Liara is the most cheated on LI. I wonder how many 'new' Liara fans would run back to Miranda/whomever, if they got more content. I'm kind of disgusted actually. Ihave to ask is this an English thing?

English thing? What?

Doubtlessly, Liara and the VS are the most cheated on LIs after Mass Effect 2 because of their disappointing reunions and the new love interests. LotSB might have changed a lot of people's minds, though, so if I had to guess, the VS is the more cheated LI than Liara is - that combined with the trust issues the VS has with Shepard in the first part of ME3.

I'd never make a playthrough, even a roleplay playthrough where Shepard cheats on his or her LI, since I'm always playing as a Paragon. The mere concept of cheating on an LI is just... Well, it's a bit lowly for my Shepards.


Well I only play as femshep so this has never been an issue for me, even if they were available options for femshep I still would never even consider cheating on Liara because I find her romance arch to be the most rewarding and well thought out one of the series, plus it's a pretty sh*tty thing to do, and kinda immature IMO.<_< All my paragon and renegade Shep's completely faithful, never considered straying once, why would I, yes the reunion was frosty at first but we can work it out and in LOTSB we found out why Liara acted the way she did. She's still the same Liara behind it all, she had her reasons for attempting to push Shep away but couldn't deny the fact that she still loves you even after all the pain she had to endure after your death.:wub:

For Shepard's who were completely faithful I think we should have got much more different content to those who strayed, a few lil tweaks to the dialogue is well and good in all but I would have prefered something more rewarding. I like Miranda, she's a good character but never appealed to me as a love interest, Tali likewise, nice character but no, I have no interest in male love interests personally so the only other who could have turned my Shep's head was Jack but alas she's off limits:(, if she was available I would have just created a separate femshep to romance her, I wouldn't purposely cheat on Liara to be with her, not my style.:whistle:

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Theodoro wrote...

I'd never make a playthrough, even a roleplay playthrough where Shepard cheats on his or her LI, since I'm always playing as a Paragon. The mere concept of cheating on an LI is just... Well, it's a bit lowly for my Shepards.

Cheating on Liara never even crossed my mind when I played the game long before LotSB. I didn't even think about the possibility of Liara romance getting "fixed" in some DLC or ME3, but that was still my choice. I play games with the mind-set of "what would I do". I find all games more immersive that way too.

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Arcataye wrote...
Cheating on Liara never even crossed my mind when I played the game long before LotSB. I didn't even think about the possibility of Liara romance getting "fixed" in some DLC or ME3, but that was still my choice. I play games with the mind-set of "what would I do". I find all games more immersive that way too.

It has never crossed my mind, either. And I'm glad to see that even despite everything in ME2, before LotSB was ever released, we get the scene of Shepard looking at Liara's picture right before the Suicide Mission - that he/she still believes that things can work, that there's still hope, and that it's Liara who is his/her main driving force and what Shepard would be fighting for when facing the Collectors. Because that's certainly how I felt.

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For Shepard's who were completely faithful I think we should have got much more different content to thosewho strayed, a few lil tweaks to the dialogue is well and good in all but I would have prefered something more rewarding.

I agree completely. For a Shepard and Liara who've been in love for three years, there should have been more to the romance - or some things, like the London gift scene for the example, should have been exclusive only to faithful Shepards. Their bond would be much, much stronger if it all started in ME1 and they remained true to each other throughout the trilogy.

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Yeah, even before LotSB came out, I also never considered cheating on Liara. It was just not something my Shep was going to do, even if Liara was being cold and distant - she hadn't broke it off with him yet - and that kiss alone she shared with him on Illium, the way she talked about what she had gone through, how distressed it had made her - it made it clear enough she still wanted to be with Shepard, just felt she couldn't be. So whatever the difficulties were, however mad I was at the Illium encounter, I would wait.

And it paid off, when LotSB came and I got to finally reconcile with Liara and talk to her about her feelings and her and Shepard's relationship, and just got to have a softer heart-to-heart with her and not through the lens of Shepard cheating on her either. It was just them, just about them.

Though for ME3 content, I'll definitely agree that the romance needed much more payoff for people who stayed faithful across all three games. Even if it's something as simple as content we already got, just being exclusive to faithful romances. It would also give those scenes more impact and weight, and hell, seems to me that lots of Liara haters would also prefer that too, so why not...

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I always stayed loyal to Liara and so far she has been my only ever LI. However, I'm planning on starting a new ME2 playthrough and romancing Miranda for the paramour achievement, it pains me to do so, but I want 100%!

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

Yeah, even before LotSB came out, I also never considered cheating on Liara. It was just not something my Shep was going to do, even if Liara was being cold and distant - she hadn't broke it off with him yet - and that kiss alone she shared with him on Illium, the way she talked about what she had gone through, how distressed it had made her - it made it clear enough she still wanted to be with Shepard, just felt she couldn't be. So whatever the difficulties were, however mad I was at the Illium encounter, I would wait.

And it paid off, when LotSB came and I got to finally reconcile with Liara and talk to her about her feelings and her and Shepard's relationship, and just got to have a softer heart-to-heart with her and not through the lens of Shepard cheating on her either. It was just them, just about them.

Though for ME3 content, I'll definitely agree that the romance needed much more payoff for people who stayed faithful across all three games. Even if it's something as simple as content we already got, just being exclusive to faithful romances. It would also give those scenes more impact and weight, and hell, seems to me that lots of Liara haters would also prefer that too, so why not...

Yeah, additional content for those guys who stayed faithful would be really nice :happy:

Edit: Damn, I guess this is really nice for me that I started playing Mass Effect series when the ME3 came out, and by that time LotSB was already out, so i had no even thought about cheating on Liara, though i think i'd never have thoughts like that even if LotSB wasn't out.

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Same here, I also NEVER played with my thoughts on cheating Liara. Since the first time I played ME there is only Liara for me. Every playthrough I romance her because thats what it is. She has the most charisma and I feel only connected to her.

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Is there any other LI's other than liara!!?