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Brooks Mac wrote...

Is there any other LI's other than liara!!?


Can't spell Liara without LI! ;)

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Not blue enough!!!

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Not enough Liara. So, here’s the still-best custom render:

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And let’s add this.

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Melicamp’s original.

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Melicamp’s original.


Ugh, can we stop posting this one already... I don't like getting associations between Liara and socialism :pinched: *shudders*

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It's also no longer relevant. The line has been held.

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frudi wrote...


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Melicamp’s original.


Ugh, can we stop posting this one already... I don't like getting associations between Liara and socialism :pinched: *shudders*


Socialism???? It´s based upon Rosie the Riveter; a poster in support of the American war effort during WW2. I highly doubt it has anything to do with socialism.

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

Though for ME3 content, I'll definitely agree that the romance needed much more payoff for people who stayed faithful across all three games. Even if it's something as simple as content we already got, just being exclusive to faithful romances. It would also give those scenes more impact and weight, and hell, seems to me that lots of Liara haters would also prefer that too, so why not...


Ha the most venemous Liara haters are a sight to behold in themselves, lets give Liara more content and see how they twist that too, it's always fun to keep poking them, they are pretty ridiculous at the best of times.:lol: Let's give the people what they want, us Liaramancers will be happy for all the right reasons, and they'll get something to do with their hate for a couple of months anyway:P

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Though for ME3 content, I'll definitely agree that the romance needed much more payoff for people who stayed faithful across all three games. Even if it's something as simple as content we already got, just being exclusive to faithful romances. It would also give those scenes more impact and weight, and hell, seems to me that lots of Liara haters would also prefer that too, so why not...


Ha the most venemous Liara haters are a sight to behold in themselves, lets give Liara more content and see how they twist that too, it's always fun to keep poking them, they are pretty ridiculous at the best of times.:lol: Let's give the people what they want, us Liaramancers will be happy for all the right reasons, and they'll get something to do with their hate for a couple of months anyway:P


Well, at least it would give them something new to discuss instead of making the 1000th thread titled "Did Liara mind rape me in the gift scene??" :?

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DevilBeast wrote...

frudi wrote...

Ugh, can we stop posting this one already... I don't like getting associations between Liara and socialism :pinched: *shudders*


Socialism???? It´s based upon Rosie the Riveter; a poster in support of the American war effort during WW2. I highly doubt it has anything to do with socialism.

I know what it's based upon and what it's supposed to represent. Doesn't mean it can't have quite different symbolism for people from other parts of the world.

Modifié par frudi, 11 juillet 2012 - 02:59 .


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Theodoro wrote...
I'd never make a playthrough, even a roleplay playthrough where Shepard cheats on his or her LI, since I'm always playing as a Paragon. The mere concept of cheating on an LI is just... Well, it's a bit lowly for my Shepards.


Agreed, I am always loyal on every single of my playthroughs, never cheated on Liara (or anyone else for that matter in those very rare times where I have tried romancing someone else).
Even when it was at its worst in the first ME2 playthrough where not only did I find out how cold Liara felt but I did not manage to unlock the conversation where she opens up to Shepard I felt really bad at what had happened to her but stayed faithful regardless. When I on the next playthrough got that line where she tells you why she is that way it felt good again, and when LotSB came it the romance became fantastic again Posted Image 

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frudi wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

frudi wrote...

Ugh, can we stop posting this one already... I don't like getting associations between Liara and socialism :pinched: *shudders*


Socialism???? It´s based upon Rosie the Riveter; a poster in support of the American war effort during WW2. I highly doubt it has anything to do with socialism.

I know what it's based upon and what it's supposed to represent. Doesn't mean it can't have quite different symbolism for people from other parts of the world.


You know, I think I’m going to keep posting it since in this reality it’s actually a very well-known symbol that has nothing to do with socialism* and everything to do with empowerment.

@Theodoro: I dunno about you, but I’m still not at all satisfied with the state of things…so it remains relevant.


* I had no political agenda, but if you must inject politics into this** at least be accurate: the different symbolism you may be thinking is that of totalitarianism. Disclaimer: just like George Orwell, I’m an anarcho-syndicalist…

** Like, really, you had to?

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DevilBeast wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Though for ME3 content, I'll definitely agree that the romance needed much more payoff for people who stayed faithful across all three games. Even if it's something as simple as content we already got, just being exclusive to faithful romances. It would also give those scenes more impact and weight, and hell, seems to me that lots of Liara haters would also prefer that too, so why not...


Ha the most venemous Liara haters are a sight to behold in themselves, lets give Liara more content and see how they twist that too, it's always fun to keep poking them, they are pretty ridiculous at the best of times.:lol: Let's give the people what they want, us Liaramancers will be happy for all the right reasons, and they'll get something to do with their hate for a couple of months anyway:P


Well, at least it would give them something new to discuss instead of making the 1000th thread titled "Did Liara mind rape me in the gift scene??" :?


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S-so Liara when you shared your memories with me, did you have an ulterior motive behind it?:huh:
Oh Shepard... can't a girl have her secrets too:P But I think we should meld more anyway to put your mind at rest:D

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frudi wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

frudi wrote...

Ugh, can we stop posting this one already... I don't like getting associations between Liara and socialism :pinched: *shudders*


Socialism???? It´s based upon Rosie the Riveter; a poster in support of the American war effort during WW2. I highly doubt it has anything to do with socialism.

I know what it's based upon and what it's supposed to represent. Doesn't mean it can't have quite different symbolism for people from other parts of the world.


True, but I´m pretty sure most people are aware of what the picture represents and view it as such.
I mean, I´m from Europe and I don´t see the socialist symbolism, simply because I know what the poster represents.
Anyway, I think it´s a great picture, really well made, but as someone else stated it has become rather irrelevant, now that the retake movement has more or less been dismantled after the release of the EC.

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Though for ME3 content, I'll definitely agree that the romance needed much more payoff for people who stayed faithful across all three games. Even if it's something as simple as content we already got, just being exclusive to faithful romances. It would also give those scenes more impact and weight, and hell, seems to me that lots of Liara haters would also prefer that too, so why not...


Ha the most venemous Liara haters are a sight to behold in themselves, lets give Liara more content and see how they twist that too, it's always fun to keep poking them, they are pretty ridiculous at the best of times.:lol: Let's give the people what they want, us Liaramancers will be happy for all the right reasons, and they'll get something to do with their hate for a couple of months anyway:P


Well, at least it would give them something new to discuss instead of making the 1000th thread titled "Did Liara mind rape me in the gift scene??" :?


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S-so Liara when you shared your memories with me, did you have an ulterior motive behind it?:huh:
Oh Shepard... can't a girl have her secrets too:P But I think we should meld more anyway to put your mind at rest:D


Now, it would be very rude of me to turn such an offer down when it comes from the blue goddess herself:D:D

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

S-so Liara when you shared your memories with me, did you have an ulterior motive behind it?:huh:
Oh Shepard... can't a girl have her secrets too:P But I think we should meld more anyway to put your mind at rest:D


DevilBeast wrote...

Now, it would be very rude of me to turn such an offer down when it comes from the blue goddess herself:D:D


So what do you think Shepard?;)
Think... you don't have to ask me twice Li:wub:

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Something that came to my mind while reading Theo's fic.


How powerful is an asari baby when she finds her biotic capabilities? Could she throw herself around by casting "Throw" directly at the ground beneath her feet? Or fly by casting "Pull" to the ceiling? As you know they're so lightweight. (Sorry about the ingame terms but it's easier this way.)


@Theo
I haven't seen any fanfics about biotic babies growing up so I'm eager to see what you come up with if you are still going to continue your stories until Shepard's death and beyond.

By the way, they are kind of a continuing story so why are they not in chapters inside one story? I actually read "Across the Stars" by accident as I thought it was one of the "chapters". I don't like Liara/Feron but it was still nicely written. No need to change it, I was just wondering why.

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purplehaybusa wrote...

*snip*

:lol:

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Arcataye wrote...

Something that came to my mind while reading Theo's fic.


How powerful is an asari baby when she finds her biotic capabilities? Could she throw herself around by casting "Throw" directly at the ground beneath her feet? Or fly by casting "Pull" to the ceiling? As you know they're so lightweight. (Sorry about the ingame terms but it's easier this way.)


I've never come across any fics that have talked about this, sounds interesting:happy: Given that they are natural biotics, I don't know, would it be possible that like human biotics they don't truly discover their abilities until they are young children not when they are infants? It's a blank slate really but interesting nonetheless^_^

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* I had no political agenda, but if you must inject politics into this** at least be accurate: the different symbolism you may be thinking is that of totalitarianism.

Sigh...

It's not about totalitarianism, if you want to nitpick it would be about totalitarian socialism. You know, the only kind that has ever existed. Hence why people that have any experience with it probably don't see the need to explicitly qualify socialism as totalitarian.

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** Like, really, you had to?

I genuinely thought of it just as an innocent joke. I did not expect people to get this excited at the mere mention of socialism.



As for what exactly caught my eye about that HTL poster. The motif, colour scheme and even the slogan are all unfortunately reminiscent of the type of political propaganda posters anyone who ever lived in a socialist country would recognise. I'm not actually big on symbols, if I have something against them I generally just ignore them or alternatively make fun of them. Though, since people seem to be taking my comments as an attack on their values or something, I should probably clarify I don't have anything against Rosie's posters, my comments were directed squarely at the HTL version.

It's just that the author of this particular Liara re-creation chose an unfortunate combination of elements, one that in me evoked a different association than intended. I commented on it, mostly as a joke, and unfortunately things got kind of out of hand. Lesson learned, in the future assume people have no sense of humour when it comes to politics or symbols... :unsure:

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frudi wrote...

It's not about totalitarianism, if you want to nitpick it would be about totalitarian socialism. You know, the only kind that has ever existed. Hence why people that have any experience with it probably don't see the need to explicitly qualify socialism as totalitarian.


There are an awful lot of democratic socialist parties out there, many of which have ruled their countries without implementing anything resembling totalitarianism.

Given Mr Elkoss' complaints about Asari taxation, I'd guess the United Asari Republics tend towards socialism.  Though no doubt their companies get around this by having headquarters in Ilium.

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The Liara fan thread has taken to discussing politics.

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

Arcataye wrote...

Something that came to my mind while reading Theo's fic.


How powerful is an asari baby when she finds her biotic capabilities? Could she throw herself around by casting "Throw" directly at the ground beneath her feet? Or fly by casting "Pull" to the ceiling? As you know they're so lightweight. (Sorry about the ingame terms but it's easier this way.)


I've never come across any fics that have talked about this, sounds interesting:happy: Given that they are natural biotics, I don't know, would it be possible that like human biotics they don't truly discover their abilities until they are young children not when they are infants? It's a blank slate really but interesting nonetheless^_^

Me neither, I wish there were some. Yeah, born as natural biotics. I think they do have some powers as infants but do not acknowledge them until a bit older. Mischievous toddlers with biotics. :blink:

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frudi wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

* I had no political agenda, but if you must inject politics into this** at least be accurate: the different symbolism you may be thinking is that of totalitarianism.

Sigh...

It's not about totalitarianism, if you want to nitpick it would be about totalitarian socialism. You know, the only kind that has ever existed. Hence why people that have any experience with it probably don't see the need to explicitly qualify socialism as totalitarian.

lillitheris wrote...

** Like, really, you had to?

I genuinely thought of it just as an innocent joke. I did not expect people to get this excited at the mere mention of socialism.



As for what exactly caught my eye about that HTL poster. The motif, colour scheme and even the slogan are all unfortunately reminiscent of the type of political propaganda posters anyone who ever lived in a socialist country would recognise. I'm not actually big on symbols, if I have something against them I generally just ignore them or alternatively make fun of them. Though, since people seem to be taking my comments as an attack on their values or something, I should probably clarify I don't have anything against Rosie's posters, my comments were directed squarely at the HTL version.

It's just that the author of this particular Liara re-creation chose an unfortunate combination of elements, one that in me evoked a different association than intended. I commented on it, mostly as a joke, and unfortunately things got kind of out of hand. Lesson learned, in the future assume people have no sense of humour when it comes to politics or symbols... :unsure:


Well, it´s understandable that you might regconize certain symbolisms based upon your own nation´s culture and history (I don´t know where you are from but I reckon it´s in Eastern Europe, correct??). It´s just that to many (Americans especially) RtR symbolizes strength during a time of hardship and to many women, even in this day, she´s also a symbol of women empowerment.
So, maybe it can, unfortuanately, offend some when you liken it to something it isn´t.

But anyway, you are right; let´s keep politics out of this thread and instead have some more Liara (paired with some Mrs. Hillis. I think she needs her recognition too^_^):

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I apologize for the poor resolution:?

Edit: Oh, **** top.. ehmmm...

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Even natural biotics like the Asari need both amps and training to be really effective, don't they? So kids wouldn't be too problematic.