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@lillitheris: I did not know that the Witcher also gave elves the shaft! I will try looking into those books! Thanks for the suggestion!

@FdL_Ananas: Wow, that looks like an actual photograph! (Not that I have any sort of credentials that would allow me to critique your work, but Liara's neck seemed a bit slender for me... that was the only 'break with realism,' I guess, though I'm pretty sure it's only because of the angle of the picture. The highlight in her eye didn't bother me.

@PMC: I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thought Anderson was the worst Councilor ever! After I bumped into him on the Citadel in ME2, I always let the Council pick who would take the seat.... Even the vengeful Shepards, who didn't want anything good to happen to Donnel "You're becoming more trouble than you're worth, Shepard" Udina.

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@ PMC & Batlass8, yep Udina was an inspired choice, how'd that faith in him work out for you:P, kidding, kidding, ugh Udina, slimy lil bast*rd, that renegade bullet option couldn't come quicker:devil:

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I didn't care much for the job Anderson did as a councillor either, but I did sympathise with him. He's a military man through and through, much like Shepard, so I think it's understandable that politics just aren't for him and that he would eventually (sooner, rather than later) come to hate the job. Honestly, it's all Shepard's fault :), she basically forced Anderson into accepting the position in ME1 without even consulting him beforehand. My Shepard actually felt really bad about it afterwards; she would gladly have chosen someone else but the only other choice was Udina whom she didn't trust one bit.

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So first off, before I write the same over and over again, to frudi & Jebel Krong & all you others:
clicky :D

omg, rotflmao =]:lol:. That is so getting bookmarked for future use :lol:

As for the highlight in Liara's eye, are we talking about the light reflecting in her pupil? That didn't bother me at all; if anything, the game has conditioned me to expect there to always be some light reflected in her eyes :P

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Miranda might make a good Councilor…but I’m afraid you’re completely overlooking the thing that’s called politics. It just won’t happen.

The Miranda thread’s got some good discussions on the topic, though (as well as ‘taking Cerberus back’, but don’t get me started on that…)

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Batlass8 wrote...

@lillitheris: I did not know that the Witcher also gave elves the shaft! I will try looking into those books! Thanks for the suggestion!


The backstory Sapkowski has created for the current status of the non-human races is absolutely brilliant, if a little subtle. You won’t be disappointed.



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lillitheris wrote...

Miranda might make a good Councilor…but I’m afraid you’re completely overlooking the thing that’s called politics. It just won’t happen.

The Miranda thread’s got some good discussions on the topic, though (as well as ‘taking Cerberus back’, but don’t get me started on that…)


I don't think she'd WANT to be a Councilor.  She wouldn't want to be hamstrung by needing to play political games in order to get things accomplished.  That's just not her style.

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TheMarshal wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Miranda might make a good Councilor…but I’m afraid you’re completely overlooking the thing that’s called politics. It just won’t happen.

The Miranda thread’s got some good discussions on the topic, though (as well as ‘taking Cerberus back’, but don’t get me started on that…)


I don't think she'd WANT to be a Councilor.  She wouldn't want to be hamstrung by needing to play political games in order to get things accomplished.  That's just not her style.


That too. She’s more Spectre material :)

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For those who follow 'Pressure,' it's been updated.


I can see Miranda being a good Councilor, but I tend to think of Spectres as being a bit too blunt for her tastes. She probably prefers the methods that asari commandos use--infiltration and sabotage--as opposed to the Spectre method of "let's blow everything up and see if that fixes it." (While there are probably a lot of discrete Spectres, the one I 'know' best is Shepard, and subtle, she ain't). I guess Miranda would be more of an asari commando or STG type of Spectre. More assassination than containment?

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I'm curious to hear people's answers:
Post ME3, does Liara stay Shadow Broker? If not, why not, and what else is she doing? If so, how does she keep herself honest without the threat of the Reapers? (And possibly without Shepard's influence).

Personally, I don't see her as abandoning her role as Shadow Broker. Not for a while anyway. I can see her trying to build on her mother's legacy of inter-species cooperation and trying to use her position as Shadow Broker to help 'lesser' species. That might be nice, I think.

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@Crimson N7: The thing about that choice is that Udina's appointment becomes just another one in a long line of terrible decisions the Council is responsible for, lol!!  :P

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Batlass8 wrote...

I can see Miranda being a good Councilor, but I tend to think of Spectres as being a bit too blunt for her tastes. She probably prefers the methods that asari commandos use--infiltration and sabotage--as opposed to the Spectre method of "let's blow everything up and see if that fixes it." (While there are probably a lot of discrete Spectres, the one I 'know' best is Shepard, and subtle, she

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I'm curious to hear people's answers:
Post ME3, does Liara stay Shadow Broker? If not, why not, and what else is she doing? If so, how does she keep herself honest without the threat of the Reapers? (And possibly without Shepard's influence).

Personally, I don't see her as abandoning her role as Shadow Broker. Not for a while anyway. I can see her trying to build on her mother's legacy of inter-species cooperation and trying to use her position as Shadow Broker to help 'lesser' species. That might be nice, I think.


Lol Batlass "let's blow everything up and see if that fixes it", my Shep in a nutshell:lol:

About Liara after the war like you I don't think she will abandon her SB role immediately afterwards, I can see her staying on for a few more years, helping the different races get back on their feet again. When she accomplishes that she will probably dissolve the network altogether, perhaps not trusting anyone else with the control it wields or if Feron proves capable enough she may hand over the reins to him.:whistle:

She took the role to help Shep but it wears on her and I think at heart she would prefer to return to her roots, teaching at Serrice University perhaps in the future, settling down with Shep, having a normal life again.^_^ 

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This is kind of weird for me to asked but it's kind of on topic.

I'm going to start writing a Fic Femshep/liara(Pre ME 1, back story stuff), Got most of what I want to write sort of planned out. I was thinking would it be a good idea if I had her in her first relationship (with a asari, of cause), with the girlfriend pushing for her to "Take the next step" but having her decline and run away in a emotional wreak to a dig (Therum or some other location depending at what time I decide to write it in).

I'm not entirely sure if it would be out of character or not. I also thinking on putting in the conversation when she says "I haven't done 'this' before" but rewording it to fit.

Most likely a rubbish idea. *stares at the bin*

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Batlass8 wrote...
I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I'm curious to hear people's answers:
Post ME3, does Liara stay Shadow Broker? If not, why not, and what else is she doing? If so, how does she keep herself honest without the threat of the Reapers? (And possibly without Shepard's influence).

Personally, I don't see her as abandoning her role as Shadow Broker. Not for a while anyway. I can see her trying to build on her mother's legacy of inter-species cooperation and trying to use her position as Shadow Broker to help 'lesser' species. That might be nice, I think.


Same here with the thoughts about her beeing the Shadow Broker from Batlass8 and CrimsonN7. After that I think she will move with Shepard together and finally live their happy and relaxed life. After all they both want to spent their life together. I can see Liara and Javik writing that book they talked about and they both searching for unkown prothean ruins and study them. Also Javik needs a job as he said and I think they both would make a great researchteam.

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mavqt wrote...

This is kind of weird for me to asked but it's kind of on topic.

I'm going to start writing a Fic Femshep/liara(Pre ME 1, back story stuff), Got most of what I want to write sort of planned out. I was thinking would it be a good idea if I had her in her first relationship (with a asari, of cause), with the girlfriend pushing for her to "Take the next step" but having her decline and run away in a emotional wreak to a dig (Therum or some other location depending at what time I decide to write it in).

I'm not entirely sure if it would be out of character or not. I also thinking on putting in the conversation when she says "I haven't done 'this' before" but rewording it to fit.

Most likely a rubbish idea. *stares at the bin*


Hold that thought, some of the other posters here who write fanfic would be better to advise you on this. I think PMC her background story to Liara had a similar issue, she was in a long-term relationship with an older asari who was also pressuring her to meld but Liara didn't feel ready to give herself to her yet. I liked this twist myself, it's different and plausible. Liara when she meets Shep is still a melding virgin as it is in game too.;)

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

mavqt wrote...

This is kind of weird for me to asked but it's kind of on topic.

I'm going to start writing a Fic Femshep/liara(Pre ME 1, back story stuff), Got most of what I want to write sort of planned out. I was thinking would it be a good idea if I had her in her first relationship (with a asari, of cause), with the girlfriend pushing for her to "Take the next step" but having her decline and run away in a emotional wreak to a dig (Therum or some other location depending at what time I decide to write it in).

I'm not entirely sure if it would be out of character or not. I also thinking on putting in the conversation when she says "I haven't done 'this' before" but rewording it to fit.

Most likely a rubbish idea. *stares at the bin*


Hold that thought, some of the other posters here who write fanfic would be better to advise you on this. I think PMC her background story to Liara had a similar issue, she was in a long-term relationship with an older asari who was also pressuring her to meld but Liara didn't feel ready to give herself to her yet. I liked this twist myself, it's different and plausible. Liara when she meets Shep is still a melding virgin as it is in game too.;)


I've been noting any ideas that have popped in my head all day got 5 A5 pages filled, not all Liara but yeah.

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Same here with the thoughts about her beeing the Shadow Broker from Batlass8 and CrimsonN7. After that I think she will move with Shepard together and finally live their happy and relaxed life. After all they both want to spent their life together. I can see Liara and Javik writing that book they talked about and they both searching for unkown prothean ruins and study them. Also Javik needs a job as he said and I think they both would make a great researchteam.


My canon Shep made Javik touch the shard so am yeah he's going to kill himself if the war won't kill him first. Bummer:unsure:

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

My canon Shep made Javik touch the shard so am yeah he's going to kill himself if the war won't kill him first. Bummer:unsure:

 *snip*


What does he say if he doesn't touch the shard? Haven't tried it yet.

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

Ravii wrote...

Same here with the thoughts about her beeing the Shadow Broker from Batlass8 and CrimsonN7. After that I think she will move with Shepard together and finally live their happy and relaxed life. After all they both want to spent their life together. I can see Liara and Javik writing that book they talked about and they both searching for unkown prothean ruins and study them. Also Javik needs a job as he said and I think they both would make a great researchteam.


My canon Shep made Javik touch the shard so am yeah he's going to kill himself if the war won't kill him first. Bummer:unsure:



I like Javik. I could never let him touch that shard and relive that memories. :P

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Shepard says to Javik "There is a saying. Let old ghosts rest." than Javik says "There is wisdom after all in that cycle".
That's not 100% what they talk about but in short. ;)

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mavqt wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

My canon Shep made Javik touch the shard so am yeah he's going to kill himself if the war won't kill him first. Bummer:unsure:

 *snip*


What does he say if he doesn't touch the shard? Haven't tried it yet.

That He'll probably help Liara write a book called "Journeys with a Prothean" and Explore the Galaxy as he never had a chance to do so in his life. 

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Ravii wrote...

*snip*

I can see Liara and Javik writing that book they talked about and they both searching for unkown prothean ruins and study them. Also Javik needs a job as he said and I think they both would make a great researchteam.


^^^Someone, write this fanfic!!

Oh my sainted aunts!  Now I want ME4 to be a spinoff where these two have a cross between Indiana Jones-like adventures and a buddy cop movie.  (Varren squadmate, yessss).  I can't ever imagine Liara and Javik really being friendly and warm towards each other, but as barely-civil-yet-brilliant-daring-and-successful adventuring archeologists, they would be a total win! 

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mavqt wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

My canon Shep made Javik touch the shard so am yeah he's going to kill himself if the war won't kill him first. Bummer:unsure:

 *snip*


What does he say if he doesn't touch the shard? Haven't tried it yet.


Yeah I like to do different outcomes in numerous playthroughs, am Shep tells him to forget the past, let old ghosts rest or something, right now is not a good time to re-open old wounds basically, Javik agrees with him saying there is some wisdom left in this cycle. Even though the outcome of him touching the shard is grim I still prefer him to remember the good and bad times myself.:whistle:

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Batlass8 wrote...

Ravii wrote...

*snip*

I can see Liara and Javik writing that book they talked about and they both searching for unkown prothean ruins and study them. Also Javik needs a job as he said and I think they both would make a great researchteam.


^^^Someone, write this fanfic!!

Oh my sainted aunts!  Now I want ME4 to be a spinoff where these two have a cross between Indiana Jones-like adventures and a buddy cop movie.  (Varren squadmate, yessss).  I can't ever imagine Liara and Javik really being friendly and warm towards each other, but as barely-civil-yet-brilliant-daring-and-successful adventuring archeologists, they would be a total win! 


Haha nice, can you show me that fic? Yeah, I think it will take a loong time and a lot of teasing each other till they can stand side by side without a smirk of 'I dont like you'.

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Javik has a secret soft spot for the primitives of this cycle:D, sorry girls Auntie Tali can't make it today;)

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Batlass8 wrote...

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I'm curious to hear people's answers:
Post ME3, does Liara stay Shadow Broker? If not, why not, and what else is she doing? If so, how does she keep herself honest without the threat of the Reapers? (And possibly without Shepard's influence).


Funny you should ask… ^_^

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I... don't know. I don't dislike Javik precisely, but I really don't like him enough to let him be around Liara. Or any asari, really. He's a good soldier, but that kind of strikes me as being all.

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I too was caught by surprise by Liara on my first play through. I romanced Ashley and as I learned more about her did not like her very much. On the second play through of all three games in the series I was Liara all the way. I believe I may have had every conversation possible with her or at the very least certainly tried. Liara is a fasinating character and I love the job they did in her development from MEI to ME3. I little disappointed she was not more involved in ME2.

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