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[Sarcastic Tasha]

Yeah I don't like the idea of everyone looking badly dubbed if you use a translator. I'd use the subtitle option instead (I'm guessing you can have your translator to show you text instead of dubbing the voices). I tend to think of Shep speaking the galactic trade language to non-humans when appropriate. I imagine that being functional but maybe a little dull.

[CrimsonN7]

moreeman06 wrote...

its ok it happened right when i was getting into a groove on the last pieces of my fic,  so other than a few day delay as i sort this stuff out/get a new external because this is the fifth time it's crashed on me in 3 years/ and going to see Chelsea and PSG play tomorrow will mean i probably won't have it polished up until after the weekend

Ah ok then, still it's a major pain in the ass when that happens though, hope you'll recover most of your data^_^ Cool enjoy the game, I take it you're a blue fan eh, well I'm a Man City fan myself, both of us had a great season. Stuffing United is always fun, beating em to the title in the last  game of the season in the dying minutes of extra time ah life doesn't get any sweeter than that:D Drogba will be a big loss though, great player but you guys got buckets of cash, you'll be alright:lol:

All this talk of cake Doozer and Ravii has made me hungry, ain't it pretty:wizard:



And Liara can wash down that yummy cake with this delightful blue concoction, guaranteed to knock you on your ass;)

[PMC65]

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

Yeah I don't like the idea of everyone looking badly dubbed if you use a translator. I'd use the subtitle option instead (I'm guessing you can have your translator to show you text instead of dubbing the voices). I tend to think of Shep speaking the galactic trade language to non-humans when appropriate. I imagine that being functional but maybe a little dull.

I've had to attend meetings where an earpiece was worn so that the German being spoken was translated in my ear. That got to be a pain because you can hear the speaker talk German as someone is translating in your ear. "Would one of you shut up?" I thought more than once as both were speaking. 

Text would be better or at least less distracting, although it might not always be advisable.

I imagined my Shepards using the trade tongue whenever possible but in conversations on more personal or in-depth in nature they would rely on the translator, as annoying as that would be. It would probably become less annoying the longer you used it though. Hopefully.

EDIT:

Would the translation be in the speakers voice? Probably not. So you would have Garrus talking and the translator would be a robotic woman. Yep, real annoying.

Modifié par PMC65, 22 juillet 2012 - 11:38 .

[shepard1038]

I guess that translators in Mass Effect translate instantaneously. Also take in account that they may be species who know earth's language. I think that translators in Mass Effect are not translated by a person talking instead it uses the voice of the people talking and then translates it on your language. Remember that Mass Effect is more advanced than the technology that we have today. Thats like comparing a mako to a T-90 tank.

Modifié par shepard1038, 22 juillet 2012 - 11:50 .

[PMC65]

You would still have two voices in your head ... so I just chalk it up to magic.

This "it's a game magic device" translates the words in that person's voice to the closest Shepard word. If it has no translation it leaves it as is or picks one close to what the alien meant ... sorta. This can lead to misunderstandings at times but for the most part it works.

The magic makes it where Shepard only hears one voice in a language (s)he understands. It's a game after all.

EDIT:

What language though? Per codex - Human cultures remain linguistically divided. Some converse in Spanish, others in Mandarin, Arabic, Swahili, etc. Every alien race has their own equally broad panoply of languages and dialects.

Modifié par PMC65, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:06 .

[CrimsonN7]

rubynorman wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...




Ha I wonder how true this is? Not true for my femshep though:whistle:

True for my FemShep. Kaidan was my choice until Liara appeared in ME1. Thane romance in ME2 is very tempting but Liara is unresistable.

I introduced ME to a friend and he was hooked. I feel a little guilty because I convinced he to play as FemShep in the first game with some excuses, and another Liara fan was born

Now that's underhanded sneakiness I can get on board with, your friend just needed a little guidance, Liara admires your dedication to the biotic brigade, I salute you:D

by FolksNeedHeroes @ DeviantArt

Lots of fanfics I have read recently have Liara loving to play with Shep's hair, it's quite an exotic thing for her it seems, Shep's not complaining mind:wub:

[shepard1038]

I doubt you could call it magic. More like science fiction. In my opinion Time machines are more science fiction. Though in the future it may be possible to create a device like that. You probably put the language you want to hear it or they are different translator that translate it on certain languages. But i doubt you hear two voices.Bondmate are what asari call their partners. Bosh' tet and Keelah Se' lai are probably words that don't get translated.

Modifié par shepard1038, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:24 .

[Han Shot First]

Is Shepard speaking English or an Asari dialect, and the player just hears it as English?

The Citadel does have a default language for commerce and government. I don't remember if it is ever stated what the origins of the language are, but since the Asari founded the Citadel Council I'd assume the lingua franca for Citadel space would either be an Asari dialect or heavily based on one.

As such Shepard might have had classes in that language both growing up and after joining the Alliance military. It being a part of Alliance military training wouldn't be entirely unheard of, as recruits in the French Foreign Legion aren't required to speak French at enlistment, and are taught the language as part of their training.

I'm not saying that is necessarily the case, but it is at least possible that Shepard is conversing with Liara in either her own language, or in language that isn't her primary dialect but one she is fluent in.

*If* the above is true it might also explain why Tali has an accent, but some Quarians like Kal'Reegar do not. Tali might be speaking the default language of the Citadel, albeit with an accent. Reegar on the other hand may not be fluent, and is speaking a Quarian dialect that is being translated.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:24 .

[PMC65]

Magic or science fiction ... If it requires me to suspend a little reality to play, I'm game. If I wanted reality I'd put down the book, controller, pencil, etc. : )

EDIT: Han - that is an interesting choice. I prefer the translators with a dash of trade tongue but I could see that working in other players' universes.

I might even use it in one of my non-canon Shepard world. Thanks!

Modifié par PMC65, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:28 .

[shepard1038]

Though it is possible that after the war Shepard and Liara learn each other languages.

[CrimsonN7]

I think the melding in ME had alot to do with this, unrequited love is painful. Well my Shep only has eyes for Liara, sorry Kaidan you gotta guard the bomb mate:whistle:

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 23 juillet 2012 - 12:40 .

[PMC65]

shepard1038 - That's what I see as well ... Both start to learn each other's language although Liara's Armali is harder to learn for Shepard. Liara has a gift of tongues in my headcanon so she is quicker in that area. Shepard can't be the best at everything!

I have a new wallpaper ...



and full size image is here: v3par.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-Liara-Wallpaper-316379645
by ~v3par

He just posted this here ... http://social.biowar.../index/13282645

It's rough posting when the internet is crawling where I'm at. 3G! Ugh!

Modifié par PMC65, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:50 .

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

 Hmm...I think I may have a new wallpaper now too. 

[Yuqi]

art by sumikooneesan.

Who else picked control?And do you think Liara would aprove of a reaper shepard?

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Yuqi wrote...

Who else picked control?And do you think Liara would aprove of a reaper shepard?

I would totally choose Control if the epilogue was like this:

 

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:01 .

[PMC65]

Yuqi - I have a Shepard that would pick control but she is not with Liara.

But no matter which Shepard, I headcanon that only Shepard will ever know what happened up there while the galaxy will only see the outcome. So if EW Shepard had picked control, Liara would have seen the war cease, the reapers helping to rebuild and nothing else. She would miss Shepard but believe that he/she started the crucible and that was the result of it. She would never know about the other choices so ... no judgement or regret.

Just my headcanon though.

[karmensandiego]

I'M CAUGHT UP AGAIN!!!!

WOO HOO!!! :O:O:O:O

GAH!   YUQI!!!  WTH???  WHAT'S UP WITH THE NEW AVATAR????

[karmensandiego]

Yuqi... you make Liara cry with your new avatar...

[JDee3]

@Yuqi
I chose control. It wasn't easy. I figured Liara would be sad but would understand because she always seemed to be at the same level as my Shepard when it came to what was the right thing to do and seemed to be the supportive type with whatever Shepard did

As for what she would do in the future.. not really sure. My closest guess is she would work closely with the Reapers in rebuilding and everything


Edit:
OH and for how Liara would know the Reapers are Shepard (if she didn't believe) I would tell her something only Shepard would know.. like mentioning little blue children :]

Modifié par JDee3, 23 juillet 2012 - 05:11 .

[CrimsonN7]

Yuqi wrote...



art by sumikooneesan.

Who else picked control?And do you think Liara would aprove of a reaper shepard?

Nice pic Yuqi, also for a self confessed Renegade to pick control that seemed kinda different since control is a major paragon option and for the ultimate decision of the series it is a big paragon choice, essentially playing nice with the Reapers, we're all friends now lets clean up this mess. Eck it's not as bad as synthesis but playing nice with the Reapers that sh*t don't fly with me, I set out to destroy them, I'm gonna finish what I started. Also living an eternal existence like that for me is a fate worse than death, having complete infinite power like that could result in absolute power corrupts absolutely, your intentions in the beginning are admirable and good but too much power is a slippery slope when you don't have anyone to reign you in:whistle: I rather we be masters of our own destiny, shove your logic starkid I have enough faith in future generations to remember what Shep fought to save.

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:07 .

[shepard1038]

Yuqi
How dare you bring a banshee avatar in the Liara thread.

[Aristobulus500]

Is it just me, or in that wallpaper - Liara looks like she's summoning up clothes via a magical girl transformation. Because of the way the guy made the biotic effect look.

[PMC65]

shepard1038 wrote...

Yuqi
How dare you bring a banshee avatar in the Liara thread.

What? Banshees are sexy! Oh, and anatomically correct. 

 

Karmen ... stop staring so close! You should be ashamed!

And because I haven't seen this in a while ...

[karmensandiego]

PMC65 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Yuqi
How dare you bring a banshee avatar in the Liara thread.

What? Banshees are sexy! Oh, and anatomically correct. 

 

Karmen ... stop staring so close! You should be ashamed!

Hmmm?  What?  Huh?  Did you say something PMC? 

HEY.  I'M ONLY STUDYING IT FOR BIOLOGY'S SAKE.

IT'S FOR BIOLOGY.

FOR SCIENCE.

LIARA LOVES SCIENCE.

I'M DOING IT FOR LIARA.






ETA:  uh oh... ToP and here I am studying Banshees...  this is so embarassing... uh here guys, look at this!

Modifié par karmensandiego, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:29 .

[Aristobulus500]

Isn't it weird that they made a Banshee of all things anatomically correct, and left Liara looking like a barbie doll?

And EDI, for that matter.

I guess they figured nobody would actually look that closely on the Banshee. And EDI.