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[shepard1038]

It doesn't fit if you do Lotsb before the Suicide mission. Because in the Cabin Scene there is dialogue that is supposed to happen before the Suicide Mission. Where among other things she says"I spent two years mourning you. So if were going to try this, I need to know you're always coming back."

[shepard1038]

I always do is: Overlord, Lotsb, Suicide Mission then Arrival. It makes it more emotional and interesting, because you don't know if your coming back.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

The Cabin Scene from LOTSB is always the last thing I do in my ME2 playthroughs, because I like to imagine it as Shepard saying goodbye to Liara before he turns himself in to the Alliance.

I wish there was something more than that picture frame scene before the SM though. I'll just headcanon that Shepard sends a message off to Liara right before the SM, and seeing as they haven't rekindled their relationship at that point, I imagine the message would be something like "I don't know if you still love me, but I still love you etc etc."

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 26 juillet 2012 - 08:48 .

[shepard1038]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

The Cabin Scene from LOTSB is always the last thing I do in my ME2 playthroughs, because I like to imagine it as Shepard saying goodbye to Liara before he turns himself in to the Alliance.

I wish there was something more than that picture frame scene before the SM though. I'll just headcanon that Shepard sends a message off to Liara right before the SM, and seeing as they haven't rekindled their relationship at that point, I imagine the message would be something like "I don't know if you still love me, but I still love you etc etc."

I prefer lotsb before suicide mission, because Shepard doesn't know that he is coming back.  And it makes it more emotional. You know that doesn't happen in Mass Effect 2. But well is your Game and your mind unless... i can get a hold of some of that indoctrination tech.

Modifié par shepard1038, 26 juillet 2012 - 08:54 .

[JDee3]

If they made a book for Mass Effect or even a CGI kind of movie with all the voice actors and everything they didn't put in the game it would be beautiful.. but wouldn't work because everyone played differently :[ *sigh*

[shepard1038]

If im offline and this page hits 1800 can someone place a photo in my name?

[Han Shot First]

shepard1038 wrote...

It doesn't fit if you do Lotsb before the Suicide mission. Because in the Cabin Scene there is dialogue that is supposed to happen before the Suicide Mission. Where among other things she says"I spent two years mourning you. So if were going to try this, I need to know you're always coming back."

That line works no matter what order you complete LotSB in because the other dialogue changes. If LotSB is completed before the suicide mission the Collectors dominate the conversation and Liara is worried that Shepard may die on the other side of the Omega IV relay. If it is completed after the suicide mission the Reapers dominate the conversation instead, and Liara is concerned that Shepard may die when the Reapers invade.

In the post-ME2 version she says, "When the Reapers finally arrive, you'll dive back into the fray" just before the line you mentioned.

One of the reasons why I like playing LotSB after the suicide mission is that the dialogue is more focused on the overall threat of the Reapers, rather than the Collectors.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:05 .

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

JDee3 wrote...

If they made a book for Mass Effect or even a CGI kind of movie with all the voice actors and everything they didn't put in the game it would be beautiful.. but wouldn't work because everyone played differently :[ *sigh*

I've always wondered what Liara would look like in CGI. Jack, Garrus, Grunt, Thane, Miranda and Ashley have all gotten the CGI treatment, now if only Liara did. :/

[shepard1038]

Han Shot First wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

It doesn't fit if you do Lotsb before the Suicide mission. Because in the Cabin Scene there is dialogue that is supposed to happen before the Suicide Mission. Where among other things she says"I spent two years mourning you. So if were going to try this, I need to know you're always coming back."

That line works no matter what order you complete LotSB in because the other dialogue changes. If LotSB is completed before the suicide mission the Collectors dominate the conversation and Liara is worried that Shepard may die on the other side of the Omega IV relay. If it is completed after the suicide mission the Reapers dominate the conversation instead, and Liara is concerned that Shepard may die when the Reapers invade.

In the post-LOTSB version she says, "When the Reapers finally arrive, you'll dive back into the fray" just before the line you mentioned.

Ok didn't know that. But what about when you face the Shadow Broker?

Modifié par shepard1038, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:05 .

[Han Shot First]

shepard1038 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

It doesn't fit if you do Lotsb before the Suicide mission. Because in the Cabin Scene there is dialogue that is supposed to happen before the Suicide Mission. Where among other things she says"I spent two years mourning you. So if were going to try this, I need to know you're always coming back."

That line works no matter what order you complete LotSB in because the other dialogue changes. If LotSB is completed before the suicide mission the Collectors dominate the conversation and Liara is worried that Shepard may die on the other side of the Omega IV relay. If it is completed after the suicide mission the Reapers dominate the conversation instead, and Liara is concerned that Shepard may die when the Reapers invade.

In the post-LOTSB version she says, "When the Reapers finally arrive, you'll dive back into the fray" just before the line you mentioned.

Ok didn't know that. But what about when you face the Shadow Broker?

One of the cool things about that DLC is the different dialogue depending on the order it is played.

IIRC if you play LotSB before the suicide mission Liara also mentions Horizon, and if you play it after the suicide mission she mentions Shepard destroying the Collectors instead of the Horizon dialogue.

I'm not sure about the Shadow Broker however. I can't recall if there were differences.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:14 .

[moreeman06]

 Ok you guys I Just finished the last ch. of Recovery.  This will be the final installment other than a small epilogue that will link it to the rest of my head canon.  As i said in the description on DA I'm sorry if it seems rougher than my other ones it's 5am here I've had a crap week and I'm leaving to go to Maine for a few days to relax with my family go fishing, climbing, running, etc...  but enough excuses here's the link for ch.5

I hope you guys all enjoy this one, and I'm sorr for keeping some of you waiting have a nice week and don't go to FTL while I'm gone;)

ch.5
http://moreeman06.de...llery/#/d58rt5x 

I hope you guys enjoy it,  I'll clean it up a bit if it is that rough when i get back and here's the link for the first chapter in case you guys want to read from the begining

ch.1
http://moreeman06.de...llery/#/d55n97i 

[shepard1038]

Han Shot First wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

It doesn't fit if you do Lotsb before the Suicide mission. Because in the Cabin Scene there is dialogue that is supposed to happen before the Suicide Mission. Where among other things she says"I spent two years mourning you. So if were going to try this, I need to know you're always coming back."

That line works no matter what order you complete LotSB in because the other dialogue changes. If LotSB is completed before the suicide mission the Collectors dominate the conversation and Liara is worried that Shepard may die on the other side of the Omega IV relay. If it is completed after the suicide mission the Reapers dominate the conversation instead, and Liara is concerned that Shepard may die when the Reapers invade.

In the post-LOTSB version she says, "When the Reapers finally arrive, you'll dive back into the fray" just before the line you mentioned.

Ok didn't know that. But what about when you face the Shadow Broker?

One of the cool things about that DLC is the different dialogue depending on the order it is played.

IIRC if you play LotSB before the suicide mission Liara also mentions Horizon, and if you play it after the suicide mission she mentions Shepard destroying the Collectors instead of the Horizon dialogue.

I'm not sure about the Shadow Broker however. I can't recall if there were differences.

Wow didn't know that. I ask that, because the Shadow Broker says that the collectors offer still stands and if you
do lotsb after the suicide mission where the Collectors die. It doesn't make any sense.

Modifié par shepard1038, 26 juillet 2012 - 09:27 .

[DanielsMind]

Revan654 wrote...

The Closet thing we will be getting to a Reunion is this:

it's so amazing =')

[lillitheris]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

JDee3 wrote...

If they made a book for Mass Effect or even a CGI kind of movie with all the voice actors and everything they didn't put in the game it would be beautiful.. but wouldn't work because everyone played differently :[ *sigh*

I've always wondered what Liara would look like in CGI. Jack, Garrus, Grunt, Thane, Miranda and Ashley have all gotten the CGI treatment, now if only Liara did. :/

Liara is Computer-Generated Imagery!   /petpeeve

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

lillitheris wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

JDee3 wrote...

If they made a book for Mass Effect or even a CGI kind of movie with all the voice actors and everything they didn't put in the game it would be beautiful.. but wouldn't work because everyone played differently :[ *sigh*

I've always wondered what Liara would look like in CGI. Jack, Garrus, Grunt, Thane, Miranda and Ashley have all gotten the CGI treatment, now if only Liara did. :/

Liara is Computer-Generated Imagery!   /petpeeve

You know what I mean. The fancy, shiny CGI developers use in trailers/films etc.

[lillitheris]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

The Cabin Scene from LOTSB is always the last thing I do in my ME2 playthroughs, because I like to imagine it as Shepard saying goodbye to Liara before he turns himself in to the Alliance.

I wish there was something more than that picture frame scene before the SM though. I'll just headcanon that Shepard sends a message off to Liara right before the SM, and seeing as they haven't rekindled their relationship at that point, I imagine the message would be something like "I don't know if you still love me, but I still love you etc etc."

Also, not to rekindle this particular battle again, but Eevy could not even begin to imagine heading off for the suicide mission before getting something out of Liara, be it a yes or a no. So LotSB always as soon as it’s possible, and then fly back to Hagalaz every couple missions just to hang out.

(The “Unity” backstory goes further in elaborating that…essentially Liara hops between the Normandy and Hagalaz, which becomes a sort of a base of operations as soon as Liara manages to get a good hold of the SB reins and can conceal it well enough. This is done in part for  reasons, and in part because it helps distance Liara from the SB—they pretend it was merely a secondary transport vessel that they captured. Having everybody know about Liara as the SB is such a terrible flaw in writing on BioWare’s part. It’s incredibly dangerous, and realistically no effort would be spared to limit the number of people who know. No matter how trustworthy they are, every additional person multiplies the risk.)

…

And yeah, I know what you mean about movie-quality CGI (like the CGI trailer for ME3). Another term that annoys me is DLC—which just means DownLoadable Content. Most people use it to mean ‘paid’…and also it’s somehow different from a patch, or an extension, or an expansion. People are weird. And so imprecise…

Modifié par lillitheris, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:32 .

[cohina]

FdL_Ananas wrote...

@cohina
I feel very much the same way to be honest.

I guess my biggest problem with videos of that kind is that they tend to leave very little room for personal interpretation and just 'overwrite' everything with their pathos. Not that pathos was bad in general, but my mind just rebels if it feels too 'forced' to feel emotion X. So even if the videos are technically very well made, they quite seldom 'reach' me the way they are trying to do.

You may have a point there, maybe the emotions on the videos feel too forced. Or then it's just that you see someone else's Shepard on those scenes and on top of that they're just kind of loose bits of those scenes, so you miss all the atmoshpere, connection, context and all that you had while playing the same scene in-game, the facts that actually made it emotional to you, it's missing all that stuff. And then ofc when combined with a way too cheesy (love)song, yeah, feels too forced and even over-done maybe?

FdL_Ananas wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

shepard1038 - Just in case you are not asking in jest ... Titanic. *cue Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"*

Yeah ... thanks for that earworm. Now I will need to hear something very loud and very angry to get rid of it ...[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

NOOOO I have horrible memories of hearing someone singing "my heart will go on" on karaoke, drunk,  on a cruise ship Now that's something that calls for that brain bleach.

Also, something I stumbled upon recently. Not sure that's my kind of Liara fandom though ... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Source

...What on earth is...I mean...that thing is real...someone actually has a doll like that?? Why does it look like that, what's wrong with it's face? Just WHY?? You know I'm a bit scared at the moment here

Moreeman wrote...


please i need to know how to refer to Doozer, until you tell me i
guess I'll just refer to it as Canadian as PMC i believe suggested[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Nope, that was me actually ...not that it would actually make any difference who of us said it.

Doozer wrote...

And doozer is a she.

And here I've been referring to you as a he the whole time I believe Oh well, I don't think I'm the only one who've done the same thing.



And since we've been discussing Liara and her famous omni-tool here lately, here you go

[Yuqi]

 Seeing the amount of players who dropped ME2 LI, because they 'got less content' really annoys me. (It's like most of them dropped them because there is no sex-scene herp-a-derp.

Does anyone here want to take bets, on how many people will drop Liara,  and run back too the ME2 LI, if there was a romance specific dlc??

Modifié par Yuqi, 26 juillet 2012 - 10:56 .

[rubynorman]

PMC65 wrote...

Shepard did not read the comic Redemption to know what Liara did or has any clue to what she thinks at the point you meet her on Illium. The first time that I played ME2 it was pretty clear based off the little wheel choices that EW Shepard chose that her relationship with Liara was no longer valid.

It had been two years .. Shepard got that. So when Liara didn't say "Shepard! My love!" *cue the Corrs' Breathless* "Nyxeris, I'm leaving for the rest of the day! Shepard, dump your friends and let's go back to my place!" Well ... there it was. Life goes on.

Liara tells Shepard that she is the one who gave Shepard to Cerberus and screwed it up in the game, she barely escaped with her life and lost a friend for it, you don't need Redemption to know how she did it. And Redemption is out of her character, how could Liara behave so reckless in that comic.
I always do LotSB - SM - Overlord - Arrival.

[Brooks Mac]

Psst... Someone should make a big post so it get to 1800.

[Akernis]

Yuqi wrote...

Seeing the amount of players who dropped ME2 LI, because they 'got less content' really annoys me. (It's like most of them dropped them because there is no sex-scene herp-a-derp.

Does anyone here want to take bets, on how many people will drop Liara,  and run back too the ME2 LI, if there was a romance specific dlc??

Some people have a very loose sense of loyalty, though I think that most of us here would keep true to Liara. I know I would, not the least interested in any other romance.

I am not going to quote the enitre discussion about Shepard and Liara's relationship being valid at the begnning of ME2 but for me it certainly is, in LotSB Liara outright states that she consider herself taken so for her I would assume the relationship is alive as soon as she learns that Shepard is too, it might not even have died as even even if she could hardly expect to see Shepard again hope can be a really tenacious thing. The same applies to my Shepard, except Liara downright states "it is over between us" then he considers the relationship between them to still be there. My Shepard is not a fan of "to death do us part"  
When I played it did not even ocour to my that either of them might see the Relationship as being over and I did not get the sense from them in the game either.  
Granted Liara is afraid to open op again after what she has been through but that does not negate the validity of what they share in my opinion. 
In LotSB they clear the air and reconcile their love for each other, but for me the relationship itself was never broken, they simply needed to open up to each other again.

moreeman06 wrote...

karmensandiego wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Moreeman ... Love Dumas, Hugo & Dickens! Add Twain, Christie, Austen and Steinbeck to that mix. Shakespeare never really impressed me outside of Othello ... Yes, I know. I'm a barbarian! Off with me!

I still think Liara would love Agatha Christie ... mysteries, you know.

Yay for Dickens!  And Twain!  And Austen and Steinbeck!

Wow PMC!  You're like my sista from another mista!  If only we could cure you of this one teeny tiny sickness you have...

 
there's only one way to do that, now where is our crackshot commander Akernis

Right here 
Just a few ones today.

*Carefully aims away from doozer*

Modifié par Akernis, 26 juillet 2012 - 11:47 .

[lillitheris]

rubynorman wrote...

And Redemption is out of her character, how could Liara behave so reckless in that comic.

Love makes people—and asari—do strange things.

[Akernis]

lillitheris wrote...

rubynorman wrote...

And Redemption is out of her character, how could Liara behave so reckless in that comic.

Love makes people—and asari—do strange things.

Asari are people as well

And with that we arrive at 1800, happy Liara

Modifié par Akernis, 26 juillet 2012 - 11:57 .