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mavqt wrote...
I always headcanoned that Sheps inplants prolonged (right word?) the cellular regeneration. In turn slowing the aging process. Wishful thinking, I know.

That is a fairly common headcanon, many (though by no means all) has the Lazerus project prolong Shepard's life considerably, from a few decades to coming close to Liara's own longevity.

My headcanon goes in that direction as well though the exact lenght of his lifespan is as of yet undetermined for me.

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eh humans and their weird foods and habits...although - she does have a coffee brewer/pot in her room - but being this is the fictional future, that could be something else entirely. Or she could just have it in there for shepard's sake - knowing her room is the first place she visits when she patrols the ship and how much my femshep enjoys her coffee. Hmm some head canon might be sneaking in here...

or it could have been there when she took the room and simply not bothered removing it *shrug*

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Disagree on what? Having children are a very personal choice and dependent on the relationship it can be good or bad.

Your Shepard may not feel he/she could put a human child into Liara's life ... that is fine.

My Shepard and Liara would never regret having a human child in theirs ... that is fine.

I didn't realize this was an either / or. Image IPB

It is not, just a matter of personal choice, what works for each of us Image IPB

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Biochemist present!
"PMC: EDIT: shepard1038 - That and AIDS ... But I would welcome being proven wrong. In fact, let that be a challenge to the researchers ... Prove me wrong! I dare you! I double-dog dare you! "

Also its theoretically possible to make a gene therapy with viruses that modify your DNA to switch off cancer causing genes or turning on disabled genes. (Genophage anyone?) This manipulation has been done in bacteria, but not neccecarily "cancer genes". I believe i have read an article about mice aswell a few months ago.
I actually hope they will release some more information about asari physiology, iam not too comfortable with headcanoning Liara too much.

About the asari likeness. I think we look of it that way because we humans are genetically quite diverse compared to the other species of ME.

For people that are interested to read about future speculation:
http://www.futuretimeline.net/

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Promises wrote...
I actually hope they will release some more information about asari physiology, I am not too comfortable with headcanoning Liara too much.

I actually find it rather fun to headcanon detail of asari physiology, though I take great effort to try and avoid going against anything we know.

Modifié par Akernis, 29 juillet 2012 - 01:11 .


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Hello everyone,

I'm currently writing a post-ME1 pre-ME2 fic about how everyone handles Shepard's death, and their lives after it, and I'm wondering, besides Shepard, who would you all say Liara's closest friends are out of the crew?

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GenericEnemy wrote...

Hello everyone,

I'm currently writing a post-ME1 pre-ME2 fic about how everyone handles Shepard's death, and their lives after it, and I'm wondering, besides Shepard, who would you all say Liara's closest friends are out of the crew?


Wrex and Liara always seemed pretty tight.

Although if you're looking for someone to try and comfort her after Shepard's death, Kaidan might be a better choice.

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GenericEnemy wrote...

Hello everyone,

I'm currently writing a post-ME1 pre-ME2 fic about how everyone handles Shepard's death, and their lives after it, and I'm wondering, besides Shepard, who would you all say Liara's closest friends are out of the crew?


I always thought of Garrus as a nice guy. (Him keeping to remind people to meet him at the bar after the war.)

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GenericEnemy wrote...

Hello everyone,

I'm currently writing a post-ME1 pre-ME2 fic about how everyone handles Shepard's death, and their lives after it, and I'm wondering, besides Shepard, who would you all say Liara's closest friends are out of the crew?

My guess would be Garrus and Kaiden, she is very familar and relaxed when tallking to Garrus in ME3 so I assume that they are comfortable as friends and if Kaiden is the one to be shot in Udina's coup-attempt Liara says that he was quite friendly to her back in the orignal Normandy and it was nice to have another biotic (possibly besides Shepard) to talk to.

While I would have assumed that she was also good friends with Tali I actually cannot recall it ever being shown that they were close friends, though there was not shown any animosity between them either so that one is a little more unknown.

On the other side Wrex seems to be very happy to have Liara helping him in ME3 so I assume they also got along. 

I think except for Asphly she fell in fine with the squadmembers. concerning the general crew i think that they were considerably more distrusting of her, at least until she gradually proved her loyalty to Shepard and the others. 

So all in all personality wise Kaiden probably was the best candidate for friendship but I always felt that Garrus would be the closest friend to her. Though since Garrus is my Shepard's best friend that might be a little biased on my part. 

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karmensandiego wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

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EW Shepard has no desire to have children with Liara.

I have said that EW would like a child of her own. A child that would have features of her parents ... maybe even laugh like her mother, pout like her father. She would like to feel that child move in her stomach. She would want to have (carry, birth & raise) a child of her own. But no blue babies, which is fine since *Liara will not desire children until a few centuries later. The blue baby comments made in-game are these two joking with each other and I find it cute,

*This applies only to my headcanon and others may have Liara wanting children with Shepard.


This is extremely confusing, do you mean that your Shepard has no desire either to stay with Liara since she does not want to have children with her, but wants to have children of her own? I assume you are saying the above in the context that Liara is your LI, and down the line when your Shepard is ready to have children she will go off and have them with someone else. :blink:


I'm always amazed how people do not think that Shepard herself would want to children of her own. If she were with Kaidan no problem ... but with Liara her ovaries are null and void. Image IPB

Why would Shepard have to leave Liara to have her own children? Women have children without males in their life through artificial insemination today. Would that no longer be an option in the future? And if people see Shepard loving Liara's children why not the reverse? Liara would see Shepard's children through 10+ generations potentially ... wouldn't that be amazing?

EDIT: Keep in mind that in my headcanon Liara does not desire children in this stage of her life. She will become a matron in another two centuries when that desire to nest and have children hits her. Others see her as moving into that stage almost 250 years early. To each his own.



Shhhh Shhhh Thessaly77... *pat pat*

Do not try to understand the blue baby hater.  There is no understanding of her.  She's like... like Scientology, like the appeal of Justin Bieber, like those two headed turtles... she's inexplicable.

It's best to just let her be with her delusions and just occasionally poke her or throw blue babies at her.


Sorry for the late reply but thanks for clarifying, PMC. I misunderstood what you meant since you said at the start that Shepard does not want to have children with Liara. I assumed from there that she doesn't want a human child with her as well, so hence the confusion. I love the idea of Shepard and Liara having both human and asari children, yes that would be amazing!

And karmensandiego, hah that's funny :D Also, I don't get Justin Bieber's appeal either!

Modifié par Thessaly77, 29 juillet 2012 - 01:53 .


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Thessaly77 - That's okay ... For some odd reason a FemShep wanting her own children seems to throw people when she is paired with Liara. The first time I said it there were posters that felt her having children over Liara was just awful. Some even felt that female Shepard would make a lousy mother. This was in a stark contrast to femSheps on the Kaidan thread who could keep and even enjoy that part of their womanhood.

Liara does not make all her Shepards masculine. And I can see where she would love a woman that is very feminine.  EW's softness excites her. Of course, my femshep is a Michelle Yeoh type of woman. Spiritual, feminine and deadly. Oh, and both EW & Michelle were ballet dancers in their youth. This is the type of woman who Liara is with in my headcanon.

http://www.kungfu-fa...008/12/344.bmp 

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Lizardviking wrote...

Yuqi wrote...
 And I <3 the freindship scene.

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Wait, is that the paragon version?!

....

You are not the real Yuqi! :o


You're right I'm not, or am I?:bandit:


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But if your ending involves a dead or Reaper Shep, post your head canon on what Liara does after Shepard's death.


Honestly, I have no idea. I'm not a headcannon kind of person,  so i guess you could call me a 'narritive player'. 

That said, with the Control ending, and the 'I will watch over the ones who live on.' line. I always thought the possibility, of Liara encountering AI shepard, probable.

I do have some favorite other-peoples- headcannons, however.
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@PMC
What you wrote about 'Pick your poisen' is now one of my favorite qoutes.

Okay so for those of you who chose death over destruction,(AKA: Control or Synthesis.) What do you think Liara's biggest regret would be; regarding her time with Shepard.

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No blue babies...?:D To be clear i choosed destroy. But i would guess her behavior in lotsb. Not joining Shepard in Mass Effect 2, ect.

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Akernis wrote...

Promises wrote...
I actually hope they will release some more information about asari physiology, I am not too comfortable with headcanoning Liara too much.

I actually find it rather fun to headcanon detail of asari physiology, though I take great effort to try and avoid going against anything we know.


I don't have much of a head canon regarding asari physiology, but whenever it has come up in this thread I found the discussions interesting. I have wondered how the lack of a moon orbiting Thessia might have affected how Asari evolved. Better night vision perhaps?

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The only thing that I love about Liara is that she is voiced by an excellent VA (Ali Hillis.) She does a good job of voicing Liara's character, and I am actually glad that BioWare picked such a good VA to play the voice of Liara. The character wouldn't be Liara without Ali Hillis voicing her.Image IPB

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The only thing that I love about Liara is that she is voiced by an excellent VA (Ali Hillis.) She does a good job of voicing Liara's character, and I am actually glad that BioWare picked such a good VA to play the voice of Liara. The character wouldn't be Liara without Ali Hillis voicing her.Image IPB


I think overall Bioware did a great job with casting for the squadmates. The only one who I found disappointing was Jacob in ME3. His VA was seriously dialing it in for that game.

As much as I hate to say it, Benezia had atrocious voice acting as well. But thankfully she wasn't a squadmate.

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Hey now! Benezia was voiced by Marina Sertis, aka Counselor Troy on ST: TNG, and Demona from Gargoyles if you were a kid/teen of the 90s, and I think she did a fantastic job as Benezia.

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Wow I haven't checked the thread in a while and the topics have been all over the place.

FdL_Ananas wrote...

Think I should post a quick correction to my last post after further investigation.

Naked asari / Liara and 'naked standard human female' / Ash are of the same overall height and have technically the same body model but the proportions are actually different. A picture says more than ...
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That long neck ... ^_^
Compared from chin to top of the head Liara 'wins' by roughly 1cm btw, thanks to her crests.
So much for what the game tells us about the height difference. Now back to the actually important topics.  ;)


Why did you censor these? If these are just the in game models, then there's nothing to actually censor so why bother?

But I'm not really surprised by this - Liara - and the Asari in general, especially in ME3 - seem to have unique textures but not unique models. Very few people seem to have unique models.

It's through the use of texture that they make Liara seem incredibly different from other characters and even other Asari, and they do a really good job at it.

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AlexMBrennan wrote...


(it isn't bad for you in the future so why the hell wouldn't you smoke?).

For the record, that's a logical fallacy known as privileging the hypothesis - why should people, en masse, take up smoking *in particular*?

And yeah, I don't like that picture.The tobacco industry has enough publicity without you contributing to it. Creating positive associations (by magic smoking magically safe, forgetting that the reason people smoke is that they're addicted to the nicotine) is unnecessary and unwanted.


Pretty serious today? You must have hated all the cigs burning on the Normandy in ME3 then. I guess you could just say they were pot. My friends who foam at the mouth over tobacco are pushing to legalize marijuana which I find weird but ... such is life.


Given my avatar, I have to weigh in on this topic.

First of all, it's not at all ridiculous to be very anti-tobacco but very pro-marijuana. I'm a firm supporter of marijuana, but I can't stand tobacco and I never encourage using it - I've had people make edits for me of Liara smoking tobacco cigars (there's one of her wearing shades smoking a cigar) that I won't use because I don't condone tobacco smoking and I don't like to see Liara smoking tobacco. (My avatar is Liara smoking weed, not tobacco, for the record)

But I fully endorse weed and can very easily see her smoking it, and that's because I know the difference between the two - tobacco is extremely harmful and even physically addicting, and weed isn't. It's just that simple and I could go into more detail, but that's the short version of it, and it's why people can support weed and still be against tobacco and not be hypocrites and it's not weird at all.

I see Liara as being intelligent and knowledgeable about any substance she'd use as well, so I see tobacco as out of character for her because she'd never start, but by the same token she'd know weed is harmless and the effects of it, and how to use it responsibly, so she wouldn't have any problems with it.

Liara also seems like she has a very strong character and so I don't see her getting mentally addicted to weed and unable to control herself and put it down when she needs to - and this is the biggest issue I've seen when it comes to any harms from weed - whether or not you have the strength of will to put it down when you have other responsibilities or if you let yourself get addicted. Some people do, some people don't.

But a question - I never actually saw these apparent cigarettes around the Normandy, can anyone tell me where to look, or post some screenshots? I reasoned out Liara's substance use and disuse all on my own, so to hear there actually was something in the game? And I somehow missed it completely? Just interesting.

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The only thing that I love about Liara is that she is voiced by an excellent VA (Ali Hillis.) She does a good job of voicing Liara's character, and I am actually glad that BioWare picked such a good VA to play the voice of Liara. The character wouldn't be Liara without Ali Hillis voicing her.Image IPB


I think overall Bioware did a great job with casting for the squadmates. The only one who I found disappointing was Jacob in ME3. His VA was seriously dialing it in for that game.

As much as I hate to say it, Benezia had atrocious voice acting as well. But thankfully she wasn't a squadmate.

Benezia is Liara's mom right?Image IPB I think that I have heard characters mention her in ME3, I don't know what her VA sounds like in the first ME because I have a PS3, but I will take your word for it.Image IPB 

I have to admit that part of the reason why I love Liara's VA so much is because she voices Lightning in the Final Fantasy 13 games. I don't like Liara's VA just because she is the VA for Lightning too, if her voice sounded like she was reading from a script, not emotional/real, or really bad then I wouldn't like Liara's VA at all. Luckily Liara has a proffessional VA voicing her!Image IPB

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Han Shot First wrote...

Final Fantasy 13 Fangirl wrote...

The only thing that I love about Liara is that she is voiced by an excellent VA (Ali Hillis.) She does a good job of voicing Liara's character, and I am actually glad that BioWare picked such a good VA to play the voice of Liara. The character wouldn't be Liara without Ali Hillis voicing her.Image IPB


I think overall Bioware did a great job with casting for the squadmates. The only one who I found disappointing was Jacob in ME3. His VA was seriously dialing it in for that game.

As much as I hate to say it, Benezia had atrocious voice acting as well. But thankfully she wasn't a squadmate.


@Han
I felt it was more the lines themselves rather than Jacob's VA.  He just did not feel like the same character.

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I completely agree on all points.  Liara would not be Liara without the lovely Ali Hillis.  She is one of the main reasons why both Liara and Lightning have become two of my favorite characters. 

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sharkboy421 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Final Fantasy 13 Fangirl wrote...

The only thing that I love about Liara is that she is voiced by an excellent VA (Ali Hillis.) She does a good job of voicing Liara's character, and I am actually glad that BioWare picked such a good VA to play the voice of Liara. The character wouldn't be Liara without Ali Hillis voicing her.Image IPB


I think overall Bioware did a great job with casting for the squadmates. The only one who I found disappointing was Jacob in ME3. His VA was seriously dialing it in for that game.

As much as I hate to say it, Benezia had atrocious voice acting as well. But thankfully she wasn't a squadmate.


@Han
I felt it was more the lines themselves rather than Jacob's VA.  He just did not feel like the same character.

@FF13Fangirl
I completely agree on all points.  Liara would not be Liara without the lovely Ali Hillis.  She is one of the main reasons why both Liara and Lightning have become two of my favorite characters. 


Agreed, Lightning is also my favorite character!Image IPB As for Liara, well, I hate to admit this on a Liara Fan Forum but I honestly have to say that I very much dislike her character. I think what I don't like about her is her personality and character. Since her VA is good she isn't on my "Top Ten Most Annoying ME Characters List." I love Liara as just Shepard's friend, but hate her as Shepard's lover to be honest.

P.S. I don't like her personality and character very much, but I think that she is still a very good character in the ME universe (just not one of my favorites.) Liara fans, please don't hate me for my honesty. I didn't mean to offend you.Image IPB

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Have you TRIED the romance? I can't really see how someone can dislike Liara's romance after going through LotSB with a Liara loyal Shepard.

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Have you TRIED the romance? I can't really see how someone can dislike Liara's romance after going through LotSB with a Liara loyal Shepard.

Nope haven't tried it, but I have watched every single Liara romance scene in ME2 and ME3 on Youtube. I like to picture Liara as Shepard's friend, I like her as a friend to Shepard better (because Miranda is Shepard's LI to me, lol!) Still like Liara, just can't accept her as Shepard's LI, sorry.Image IPB

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It's all good^^.  Everyone has their own taste.

I actually played FF13 before I played ME and absolutely fell in love with Lightning right away.  And then the same thing happened with Liara when I played ME but at first I had no idea the two shared the same VA.  That is partially due to the two being vastly different characters but a large element of that does belong to Ms. Hillis's work.  She really does create a distinct voice for both characters and I think that shows her talent as a VA.  (I think she is also a really good film actress as well.  If you haven't seen "Nesting" yet you should.  Ms. Hillis is wonderful in it.)

Needless to say, I was beyond excited when I found out Liara and Lightning had the same VA.  It made me love them both even more. 

P.S.  Who is on your "10 Most Annoying ME Characters" list? :P

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But a question - I never actually saw these apparent cigarettes around the Normandy, can anyone tell me where to look, or post some screenshots? I reasoned out Liara's substance use and disuse all on my own, so to hear there actually was something in the game? And I somehow missed it completely? Just interesting.


There it is.

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Probably been pointed out before, but that cigarette is there before that scene even happens.

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Agreed, Lightning is also my favorite character!Image IPB As for Liara, well, I hate to admit this on a Liara Fan Forum but I honestly have to say that I very much dislike her character. I think what I don't like about her is her personality and character. Since her VA is good she isn't on my "Top Ten Most Annoying ME Characters List." I love Liara as just Shepard's friend, but hate her as Shepard's lover to be honest.

P.S. I don't like her personality and character very much, but I think that she is still a very good character in the ME universe (just not one of my favorites.) Liara fans, please don't hate me for my honesty. I didn't mean to offend you.Image IPB


So... what's the purpose of being here if you don't like the character?  The only logical conclusion I can come to is that you've come to troll and that's it.

If I'm wrong, then so be it, but until proven otherwise, that's the only conclusion I can come to.