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Liara Fans: keep your love blue and true!

Débuté par Grunt Lord , juin 13 2011 05:04

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:45

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ratzerman wrote...

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I can't see how, in a game that touts multiple endings, marriage, old age and a lot of little blue children would not be an option.

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


There is no way they would do that, they already confirmed that you could lose to the Reapers also this is not the only ending, I bet there are tons of endings to this game. ;)

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Liara pic and one of my very old shepards :D

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:46

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ratzerman wrote...

pf17456 wrote...

I can't see how, in a game that touts multiple endings, marriage, old age and a lot of little blue children would not be an option.

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


If Shepard dies in all endings i think it would kill the purpose of future DLC, or replayability for some, i'm still looking forward for a "happy" ending

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I would love a DLC were you get to choose what happens with you and your LI after defeating the reapers

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:48

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ratzerman wrote...

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


There's still a chance...but Shepard won't get to see her.  :crying:

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:48

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Combined ME1& 2 I think I'm close to 40 plays (just beating my Wardens and Hawkes). Also I beg of you PLEASE STOP THE PYRAMID QUOTES. DX

It'll get the thread locked. Which makes Liara sad...

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:52

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jlb524 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


There's still a chance...but Shepard won't get to see her.  :crying:

Well, yeah.... that's true. I guess you could say that Shep might live on in a way, having joined with Liara. Doesn't make me feel any better, but....
:unsure:

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:54

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ratzerman wrote...
I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


After the Universal disappointment and anger that was Fallout 3's forced player death ending I have doubts that anyone would ever be stupid enough to repeat what Bethesda did in that game. Even Bethesda recognized that the ending was a mistake and changed it with the Broken Steel DLC.

You can't always kill the player character at the end of the game without it feeling very, very, very, contrived and forced. It's basically a giant FU to the player.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:56

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Ophiskc wrote...
If Shepard dies in all endings i think it would kill the purpose of future DLC, or replayability for some, i'm still looking forward for a "happy" ending

At Gamescom, Mike Gamble said that they're approaching DLC differently this time, since the ending of the game has a sense of "closure." So it's very likely that DLC for ME3 will take place before the ending.

Plus you have Casey using words like "definitive" and "finality" to describe the ending, so....

IDK, I don't want to turn this into the Shep-Dies-Downer-Thread.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:56

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jlb524 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


There's still a chance...but Shepard won't get to see her.  :crying:


Kinda mean to have Shepard knocking Liara up only to get himself killed leaving Liara with the child.

But if they could avoid making it cheesy I suppose it could make for a decent bittersweet ending.

adneate wrote...
After the Universal
disappointment and anger that was Fallout 3's forced player death ending
I have doubts that anyone would ever be stupid enough to repeat what
Bethesda did in that game. Even Bethesda recognized that the ending was a
mistake and changed it with the Broken Steel DLC.

You can't
always kill the player character at the end of the game without it
feeling very, very, very, contrived and forced. It's basically a giant
FU to the player.


I do not think people hated FO3's ending because the fact that the main character died no matter what. But simply because of how poorly it was executed.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 27 août 2011 - 10:57 .

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:57

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adneate wrote...

You can't always kill the player character at the end of the game without it feeling very, very, very, contrived and forced. It's basically a giant FU to the player.


Especially with a series of games, like Mass Effect, considering how attached everyone is to their Shepard character...the rage over a forced Shepard or LI death would be legendary.

Fiddles_stix wrote...

It'll get the thread locked. Which makes Liara sad...

*snip*


I lurv this pic, btw.  <3

Modifié par jlb524, 27 août 2011 - 11:01 .

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:00

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ratzerman wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


There's still a chance...but Shepard won't get to see her.  :crying:

Well, yeah.... that's true. I guess you could say that Shep might live on in a way, having joined with Liara. Doesn't make me feel any better, but....
:unsure:


It is the curse of an asari going out with a human. Liara will outlive shep regardless, best to think of this this way, not just i this in all cases of loss: the fact thatin the maximum amount of time the had with each other, they spend it together.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:02

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To be perfectly honest, I think the "Shepard's dead, leaving Liara pregnant" is pretty high. It would be very Terminator 1 of them to do that. And considering I think parts of the romance is inspired by Kyle and Sarah (like the love scene), I wouldn't put it pass them to do it.

However, they might have an ending where Shepard is alive.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:02

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Lizardviking wrote...
I do not think people hated FO3's ending because the fact that the main character died no matter what. But simply because of how poorly it was executed.


You could never execute it well, it would always be forced and contrived. If they pull the "Shep dies no matter what you say or do" all I'd see is that BioWare is commiting the same kind of protag-acide that they practice in the Dragon Age and Neverwinter series. Where they find ways to just make the old Player Character vanish or die so they don't have to deal with them anymore.

Which would make Shepard's final moments forced and contrived and every bit as sucky as Fallout 3's ending.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:09

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adneate wrote...
You could never execute it well, it would always be forced and contrived. If they pull the "Shep dies no matter what you say or do" all I'd see is that BioWare is commiting the same kind of protag-acide that they practice in the Dragon Age and Neverwinter series. Where they find ways to just make the old Player Character vanish or die so they don't have to deal with them anymore.

Which would make Shepard's final moments forced and contrived and every bit as sucky as Fallout 3's ending.


Ehh. In a game with major decisions and that have spanned over a long time I can agree that it can easily seem contrived. But I still firmly believe that a story can have an effective and well executed ending in which the hero dies in the end.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:09

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I was happy with the Warden dying. I had nothing against it.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:09

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TMA LIVE wrote...

I was happy with the Warden dying. I had nothing against it.


That wasn't forced.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:10

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TMA LIVE wrote...

I was happy with the Warden dying. I had nothing against it.


Mine cheated death thanks to Morrigan :wizard:

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:11

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ratzerman wrote...

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


I want to think the devs' talk is based on them having worked night and day for a long time rather than they're telegraphing Shep's death. It's a hope I shall cling to adamantly!

Although I could live with a forced Shepard death, it would need to be one of the best executed endings ever otherwise I would feel a little cheated. Still I've had many many hours of enjoyment from the series I shouldn't complain.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:14

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jlb524 wrote...

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I was happy with the Warden dying. I had nothing against it.


That wasn't forced.


Unless you have a problem a demon baby. And cheating on Leli. And getting used by Morrigan.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:16

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TMA LIVE wrote...

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I was happy with the Warden dying. I had nothing against it.


That wasn't forced.


Unless you have a problem a demon baby. And cheating on Leli. And getting used by Morrigan.


You still have freedom to roleplay and keep your Warden alive.  Alistair always sleeps with Morrigan in my pts anyway.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:19

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jlb524 wrote...

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jlb524 wrote...

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I was happy with the Warden dying. I had nothing against it.


That wasn't forced.


Unless you have a problem a demon baby. And cheating on Leli. And getting used by Morrigan.


You still have freedom to roleplay and keep your Warden alive.  Alistair always sleeps with Morrigan in my pts anyway.


Bah, I'm not making him do that, and have a king deman baby. He's my buddy. I want him to have no beowulf problems, or King Arthur problems. Besides, dying a hero is cool.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:20

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jlb524 wrote...

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jlb524 wrote...

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I was happy with the Warden dying. I had nothing against it.


That wasn't forced.


Unless you have a problem a demon baby. And cheating on Leli. And getting used by Morrigan.


You still have freedom to roleplay and keep your Warden alive.  Alistair always sleeps with Morrigan in my pts anyway.


Indeed.

Forced is for there to be no alternative choice, even if you feel the alternative choice is worse. Arrival forcing you to destroy the Batarian system is an example of something being forced, there was no other option.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:21

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steph285 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I'm not worried about Liara as much as I'm worried about Shepard. The way the devs have been talking, I think there's a real possibility that Shepard will die at the end, no matter what. And if Shepard dies, that means there's no chance for those little blue children. :-(


There's still a chance...but Shepard won't get to see her.  :crying:

Well, yeah.... that's true. I guess you could say that Shep might live on in a way, having joined with Liara. Doesn't make me feel any better, but....
:unsure:


It is the curse of an asari going out with a human. Liara will outlive shep regardless, best to think of this this way, not just i this in all cases of loss: the fact thatin the maximum amount of time the had with each other, they spend it together.

That would be true for asari in any relationship.  It seems only the korgan live as long at the asari live.  Drell live to about 85.  Turians about as long as humans.  Salarians live about 40.  Vorcha only 20.  Not sure about elcor or hanar or the volus.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:21

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You can always make Alistair king, keep Loghain and make Loghain take the final blow.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:24

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Fiddles_stix wrote...

You can always make Alistair king, keep Loghain and make Loghain take the final blow.


You have to work and have meta knowledge for that one though.

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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:24

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Fiddles_stix wrote...

You can always make Alistair king, keep Loghain and make Loghain take the final blow.

Which is what Loghgain deserves too.  Honorable death.
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