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[Akernis]

doozer12 wrote...
meh no worries, different minds, different viewpoints, different understandings of things.  Its what makes people so interesting.  I respect your viewpoint.  I understand why control could be viewed as quite beneficial, don't get me wrong, there are pro's and con's to each side of these arguments

Agreed, once again.

doozer12 wrote...
Hmmm, you think id learn by now NOT to enter a room topless.  'ang on.

doozer with that avatar you are alway topless.

Okay lame jokes aside.

doozer12 wrote...

That is an amazing one, love her expression here

Okay not quite Liara related but I have an asari question I could not find an anwser to; do we know anything about the asari military ranks, more specifically their navy ranks?
I need to know what the leader/commander/captain of an asari vessel called or adressed if anyone knows somehting on the matter.

I know that the one who commands the Destiny Ascension is a Matriarch Lidanya who in the battle for the citadel is simply mentioned in the subtitles as "Destiny Ascension Commander", but not really anything else.  

[Mavqt]

Well they have ranks. "Lieutenant kirin" or whatever her name is.

so whatever it is, it's related to army rankings.

Well at least their ground forces

Modifié par mavqt, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:00 .

[CrimsonN7]

Ravii wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

CrimsonN7 - How did you get a photo from that orgy .... I mean, tupperware party that doozer and I threw last weekend?

Speaking of which, Yuqi ... you left your ... uh ... ice cream trays here that you purchased.

Someone had a camera!? ... well... guess the damage is done, suppose we could autograph it.  theres no shame in this...people need...tupperware *coughs*

Ha ewww, both you two are utterly depraved:lol: Now for something more pleasant:D

It's maybe more pleasant but you are somewhat depraved yourself. :happy: It's not a bad thing to the contrary it's a gooood thing. The conversation made me laugh and gave me big grin.

True dat but it's always directed towards Liara so it's alright, right? This is my excuse and I'm sticking to it:P

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What do you guys/gals think Liara's opinion of Ashley is? Since it seems to be she has more of a natural rapport with Kaidan.  

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:56 .

[Akernis]

CrimsonN7 wrote...
What do you guys/gals think Liara's opinion of Ashley is? Since it seems to be she has more of a natural rapport with Kaidan.  

Liara: "When we first met she frightened me. She was so intense when rushing into battle. I never knew what Ashley wanted to prove, but I admired her bravery"

I think that Liara would think highly of Ashley as a loyal soldier but be a somewhat distanced from her personally. When they meet on Mars I din't exactly get the impression that they were entirely on good terms even if they respect each other and would not hesitate to help the other when necessary as proved doing EVA's attack. 

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

So I am about to write the first meeting between Liara and Shepard on Illium, and I got this idea that during Liara's conversation with her client, instead of Liara simply just threathing the man himself, she threathens to hurt/kill someone he holds dear (like say, his wife).

Just wondering what people feel of this idea, is it too needlessly dark or violent? A pointless change in the story?

[Mavqt]

Lizardviking wrote...

So I am about to write the first meeting between Liara and Shepard on Illium, and I got this idea that during Liara's conversation with her client, instead of Liara simply just threathing the man himself, she threathens to hurt/kill someone he holds dear (like say, his wife).

Just wondering what people feel of this idea, is it too needlessly dark or violent? A pointless change in the story?

I don't think she would hurt the families and loved ones, of people who owe her money or whatever. She would take it out on them directly.

That's my opinion anyway.

[JDee3]

Ugh I can't with this topic anymore. The goal was not to destroy the reapers in all 3 games it was to STOP them.. you know.. save the galaxy. God you must all be renegade or something with your recklace minds. I'm tired of this topic. I choose purple ending. I win. End of story. More Liara in this thread pronto!

Modifié par JDee3, 01 août 2012 - 12:43 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

mavqt wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

So I am about to write the first meeting between Liara and Shepard on Illium, and I got this idea that during Liara's conversation with her client, instead of Liara simply just threathing the man himself, she threathens to hurt/kill someone he holds dear (like say, his wife).

Just wondering what people feel of this idea, is it too needlessly dark or violent? A pointless change in the story?

I don't think she would hurt the families and loved ones, of people who owe her money or whatever. She would take it out on them directly.

That's my opinion anyway.

Maybe, but I could see her doing it because threatening his loved ones might be a better way to have him pay up.

[PMC65]

Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Liara was given a darkness in ME2 & LotSB that for some reason they tried to soften by her "claiming" she didn't mean it. *facepalm* Please! She meant it. Ask Sekat if Liara wouldn't serve someone up on a platter if need be ... and she said she would do it again. Poor Sekat. I knew him well.

Modifié par PMC65, 01 août 2012 - 12:59 .

[shepard1038]

@JDee3

It was to destroy them. Even Hackett said that dead reapers is how we win this. And Shepard says that with the crucible he'll rid the galaxy of those machines once and for all. What your saying doesn't make sense. The only way to stop them is to kill them Thats metagaming Shepard didn't know you could use the crucible to be friends with the reapers or control them.

There is no purple ending. If you want i'll drop the topic.

[JDee3]

shepard1038 wrote...

@JDee3

It was to destroy them. Even Hackett said that dead reapers is how we win this. And Shepard says that with the crucible he'll rid the galaxy of those machines once and for all. What your saying doesn't make sense. The only way to stop them is to kill them Thats metagaming Shepard didn't know you could use the crucible to be friends with the reapers or control them.

There is no purple ending. If you want i'll drop the topic.

._. How did metagaming Shep not know that would make him control the reapers? Did you not listen to starbrat at all or see TIM walking toward it who represented the need to control them. No1 is saying anything reasonably bad about the control ending besides Shepard's BODY is destroyed and if they have I've countered it not with some head cannon stuff but with actual in game facts. Who even cares what Hackett says, he hasn't been on the journey Shepard has. It has to be Shepard who makes the final decision. With destroy it's also made clear another threat will eventually come probably long after Shepard is dead. just ugh. I can't

Edit:
I still love everyone on this thread btw.. I just don't agree with some of your methods <_<

Modifié par JDee3, 01 août 2012 - 01:20 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...
Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Which leads me to another question, would Liara carry through with this threat should it be necessary? Would she do that?

Liara was given a darkness in ME2 & LotSB that for some reason they tried to soften by her "claiming" she didn't mean it. *facepalm* Please! She meant it. Ask Sekat if Liara wouldn't serve someone up on a platter if need be ... and she said she would do it again. Poor Sekat. I knew him well.

While I did find that line in ME3 cute, you are right that they seemed to downplay that aspect of her character in ME3.

[shepard1038]

PMC65 wrote...

Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Liara was given a darkness in ME2 & LotSB that for some reason they tried to soften by her "claiming" she didn't mean it. *facepalm* Please! She meant it. Ask Sekat if Liara wouldn't serve someone up on a platter if need be ... and she said she would do it again. Poor Sekat. I knew him well.

She can't. She knew the Shadow broker history. I don't know that seems to cold. When she is threatening someone in lotsb she later says that she didn't mean it. And that could give her a bad reputation. Unless you want Bounty hunters wanting to kill her. Or the asari matriarch ordering a kill order on Liara.

[CrimsonN7]

Akernis wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...
What do you guys/gals think Liara's opinion of Ashley is? Since it seems to be she has more of a natural rapport with Kaidan.  

Liara: "When we first met she frightened me. She was so intense when rushing into battle. I never knew what Ashley wanted to prove, but I admired her bravery"

I think that Liara would think highly of Ashley as a loyal soldier but be a somewhat distanced from her personally. When they meet on Mars I din't exactly get the impression that they were entirely on good terms even if they respect each other and would not hesitate to help the other when necessary as proved doing EVA's attack. 

I like Ashley myself and felt Bioware really let down her fans in ME3 in regards to screentime and romance arch content when you look at the other VS Kaidan. I think Ashley has really matured and mellowed alot when you look at how she was towards her new alien squadmates in ME1 but when you look at her family history and how they were unfairly blacklisted you'd understand her hang-ups. I would have loved some interaction between herself and Liara in ME3 maybe a quick chat in the mess hall like Vega and Garrus' although it's hard to say whether or not Ashley would want to interact with Liara when off duty, they respect one another no doubt but anything more than professional interaction hmm it's hard to gauge:whistle:

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 01 août 2012 - 01:18 .

[shepard1038]

@Lizarviking

Ok i can see Liara threatening someone. But killing a whole family? No. Liara isn't a murderer. And my Shepard wouldn't allow that. Also the asari could send a Justicar to kill her or order a kill order.

Modifié par shepard1038, 01 août 2012 - 01:22 .

[PMC65]

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Which leads me to another question, would Liara carry through with this threat should it be necessary? Would she do that?

An information broker would not threaten what they could not carry out. All it would take is one customer to call her bluff and the jig would be up. I don't think Liara would be that foolish. So if she threatened it then yes she would have to carry through if the customer still refused ... or close up shop. I think she did things that she would never want Shepard to know ... two years focused on revenge would see a lot of darkness.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Which leads me to another question, would Liara carry through with this threat should it be necessary? Would she do that?

An information broker would not threaten what they could not carry out. All it would take is one customer to call her bluff and the jig would be up. I don't think Liara would be that foolish. So if she threatened it then yes she would have to carry through if the customer still refused ... or close up shop. I think she did things that she would never want Shepard to know ... two years focused on revenge would see a lot of darkness.

So what think do you believe Liara have done then? We do get the line in ME3 on Cronos station (which is a line I really like) that suggests at something pretty dark.

[Akernis]

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Which leads me to another question, would Liara carry through with this threat should it be necessary? Would she do that?

As mentioned she said that she wasn't going to do it; then I suppose it is a question as of whether you trust and believe her or not. Personally I don't think she would ever murder someone in cold blood.
I don't believe that she did all sorts of terrible things doing those two years either.

But then I was never a fan of her renegade outlook in ME2 and very happy they scalled that down in ME3 and most of LotSB. I also remain optimistic about her caring nature and that she has retained that as much as possible, what was it Yuqi called me several hundred pages back... starry-eyed I think.

Lizardviking wrote...
 We do get the line in ME3 on Cronos station (which is a line I really like) that suggests at something pretty dark.

The one where she says she does not know how far she would go to save Thessia? I always took that more as dispair for what happens at her homeworld than any indication of dark intent.

Modifié par Akernis, 01 août 2012 - 02:06 .

[PMC65]

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Which leads me to another question, would Liara carry through with this threat should it be necessary? Would she do that?

An information broker would not threaten what they could not carry out. All it would take is one customer to call her bluff and the jig would be up. I don't think Liara would be that foolish. So if she threatened it then yes she would have to carry through if the customer still refused ... or close up shop. I think she did things that she would never want Shepard to know ... two years focused on revenge would see a lot of darkness.

So what think do you believe Liara have done then? We do get the line in ME3 on Cronos station (which is a line I really like) that suggests at something pretty dark.

I think that Sekat is a reveal to some of the things she had done during those two years and when I saw her entrance in ME3 I thought her no blink attitude as she stepped forward and finished off the guys was great. As to how dark she went would be up to each player ... You either see Sekat as her only sacrifice to the cause or see him as just a glimpse behind the curtain. I see him as just a glimpse to how far she had fallen from Liara on Therum.

[shepard1038]

Liara is not an assasin.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Akernis wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
Lizardviking - Liara can read people, as shown with her ability to cut into the Shadow Broker, so she would threaten the person based off what would work. So can I see her threatening someone's family? Yes. If that was what it took.

Which leads me to another question, would Liara carry through with this threat should it be necessary? Would she do that?

As mentioned she said that she wasn't going to do it; then I suppose it is a question as of whether you trust and believe her or not. Personally I don't think she would ever murder someone in cold blood.
I don't believe that she did all sorts of terrible things doing those two years either.

But then I was never a fan of her renegade outlook in ME2 and very happy they scalled that down in ME3 and most of LotSB. I also remain optimistic about her caring nature and that she has retained that as much as possible, what was it Yuqi called me several hundred pages back... starry-eyed I think.

But during the observer quest we see she has no qualms taking out those 5 people, granted they were not exactly saints, and if paragon Shepard objects she emotionally blackmails him to go along with it.

Lizardviking wrote...
 We do get the line in ME3 on Cronos station (which is a line I really like) that suggests at something pretty dark.

The one where she says she does not know how far she would go to save Thessia? I always took that more as dispair for what happens at her homeworld than any indication of dark intent.

Thats part of it, but what I was interested in was the part where she said "When you work in shadows, its easy to think you have all the answers."

Sounds to me that she made some quite uncomfortable decisions during her two years.

[karmensandiego]

shepard1038 wrote...

Can we stop the banshee photos.<_<

No.