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What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?


I liked it, particularly because Wrex was my Shepard's best friend next to Garrus, and Liara herself, so it made sense. I mean hell, in ME1 my main party was Liara/Wrex and with Shepard being really close to all 3, they all would've just naturally spent time together and gotten to know eachother.

I know I'm deviating from the question a bit by including Garrus in the equation, but I really considered all of them to be really good friends, with Tali and Kaidan good friends and from the ME2 squad various degrees of friends and allies. But Shepard/Liara/Garrus/Wrex were by far the closest group.

This is why the Sur'Kesh segment is one of my favorites, if you take Liara/Garrus with you - you get so much reminiscing with the old ME1 crew and I loved it. Sometimes they even are just enjoying talking to eachother, not even Shepard.

I would've loved more times where that happens. Mechanically the Sur'Kesh segment - and in level design - is not that interesting, but what it provided in conversation between those characters alone made it stand out so much.

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Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?

Wrex is a bro, I'm not going to be jealous with a little harmless flirting between the two of them.
(Not entirely sure what you mean. :P)

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Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?


I personally liked it, I always imagined they became friendly near the end of ME1 onwards.

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Actually, pretty much was Thero said. Having Wrex, Shep and Garrus teach Liara poker during the down time between missions.

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Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?


I loved Wrex and Liara's relationship throughout the series, IMO. They seemed like friends in ME1 as well, seeing as Wrex and Kaidan seemed like the only ones to trust her from the start, and some of their banter. Such as on the Noveria mission:

Liara: What was that?
Wrex: Just the wind. Don't worry, I'll protect you. 

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Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?


I loved Wrex and Liara's relationship throughout the series, IMO. They seemed like friends in ME1 as well, seeing as Wrex and Kaidan seemed like the only ones to trust her from the start, and some of their banter. Such as on the Noveria mission:

Liara: What was that?
Wrex: Just the wind. Don't worry, I'll protect you. 



I don't remember that. :crying:

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Mumba1511 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?

Wrex is a bro, I'm not going to be jealous with a little harmless flirting between the two of them.
(Not entirely sure what you mean. :P)


Now that you mention it, was there ever actually a time Wrex flirted with Liara? I can't seem to recall that ever happening, serious or not.

Edit - That "What was that/Just the wind" quote is from somewhere in the labs, when you first get there, before you really see rachni, if I remember right.

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Yeah, it was right before you encounter the Rachni for the first time.

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?

Wrex is a bro, I'm not going to be jealous with a little harmless flirting between the two of them.
(Not entirely sure what you mean. :P)


Now that you mention it, was there ever actually a time Wrex flirted with Liara? I can't seem to recall that ever happening, serious or not.

Edit - That "What was that/Just the wind" quote is from somewhere in the labs, when you first get there, before you really see rachni, if I remember right.

L: That's what I always liked about you Wrex
W: My smoldering good looks?
L: well, there's that.
(Sur'kesh.)

Modifié par Mumba1511, 16 août 2012 - 10:58 .


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Boy, as if Liara shipped with characters like Miranda and Samara weren't bad enough, now I have to deal with Liara/Wrex shipping!

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Damnit, now I'm going to mix Theo and Aristobulus up. :/

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Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?


It was natural that they'd form a friendship over the games, especially after Wrex showed that he's more than a bounty hunter but a responsible leader, and I think Liara respects him a lot and probably doesn't see anyone else leading the krogan to a promised new golden age.

And the respect is mutual, seeing as how Wrex says 'I wouldn't want anyone else along for the ride' at the beginning of the Sur'Kesh mission. He might not have thought much of her in the beginning back in ME1, but as the Shadow Broker she must have gained a lot of respect by him, too.

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One of the things ME3 got right I think, and not just in regards to Liara and Wrex, is that the squadmates seem to have relationships with each other and not just with Shepard. Tali and Liara also seem quite close if you aren't getting them both tangled up in a love triangle, and I've seen cutscenes on youtube of Liara talking about how Kaidan had been kind to her when she first joined the Normandy.


Mumba1511 wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?

Wrex is a bro, I'm not going to be jealous with a little harmless flirting between the two of them.
(Not entirely sure what you mean. :P)


Now that you mention it, was there ever actually a time Wrex flirted with Liara? I can't seem to recall that ever happening, serious or not.

Edit - That "What was that/Just the wind" quote is from somewhere in the labs, when you first get there, before you really see rachni, if I remember right.

L: That's what I always liked about you Wrex
W: My smoldering good looks?
L: well, there's that.
(Sur'kesh.)





I just took that as a  joke, but some people do seem to interpret that as flirting.

I guess whether or not that counts as flirting depends on your own definition of flirting. Posted Image

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Damnit, now I'm going to mix Theo and Aristobulus up. :/

I'm screwed, xD

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@Theo what happened, you're ....you're Anime why no liara

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Han Shot First wrote...

One of the things ME3 got right I think, and not just in regards to Liara and Wrex, is that the squadmates seem to have relationships with each other and not just with Shepard. Tali and Liara also seem quite close if you aren't getting them both tangled up in a love triangle, and I've seen cutscenes on youtube of Liara talking about how Kaidan had been kind to her when she first joined the Normandy.


Does Liara react to Ashley's death in ME3?
I just saw the Kaidan one the other day when she killed.

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mavqt wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

One of the things ME3 got right I think, and not just in regards to Liara and Wrex, is that the squadmates seem to have relationships with each other and not just with Shepard. Tali and Liara also seem quite close if you aren't getting them both tangled up in a love triangle, and I've seen cutscenes on youtube of Liara talking about how Kaidan had been kind to her when she first joined the Normandy.


Does Liara react to Ashley's death in ME3?
I just saw the Kaidan one the other day when she killed.


I'm pretty sure she can react to the VS in general, especially if she has to kill the VS.

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As for the Liara /wrex talk i liked that they were portrayed as close friends I've always thought wrex was a bro and as much as he tries to act tough hes a softy when it comes to the ladies

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Same question for aristo why the anime and no more liara

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mavqt wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

One of the things ME3 got right I think, and not just in regards to Liara and Wrex, is that the squadmates seem to have relationships with each other and not just with Shepard. Tali and Liara also seem quite close if you aren't getting them both tangled up in a love triangle, and I've seen cutscenes on youtube of Liara talking about how Kaidan had been kind to her when she first joined the Normandy.


Does Liara react to Ashley's death in ME3?
I just saw the Kaidan one the other day when she killed.


IIRC she says something about being a little scared of Ashley when she first met her, but respecting her as a fierce warrior. Unfortunately I saw that vid about four months ago and can now not find it, so my memory might not be entirely correct.

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Han Shot First wrote...

mavqt wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

One of the things ME3 got right I think, and not just in regards to Liara and Wrex, is that the squadmates seem to have relationships with each other and not just with Shepard. Tali and Liara also seem quite close if you aren't getting them both tangled up in a love triangle, and I've seen cutscenes on youtube of Liara talking about how Kaidan had been kind to her when she first joined the Normandy.


Does Liara react to Ashley's death in ME3?
I just saw the Kaidan one the other day when she killed.


IIRC she says something about being a little scared of Ashley when she first met her, but respecting her as a fierce warrior. Unfortunately I saw that vid about four months ago and can now not find it, so my memory might not be entirely correct.


I just watched it. You're right.:)

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@Mavqt All you guys have such pretty custom avatar's and your new one Mavqt is freakin' sweet, Hollow's frightens me:lol: I tried to change it using the dragon age creator but I'm impatient and too dumb to figure it out soooo this will do for now... unless I get tech savvy overnight and figure it out but don't hold your breath:P


haha mine frightens you?? then I guess this avatar makes his purpose: to frighten people:devil::devil:

now let's get serious, wanna me helping you to create a custom avatar? if so, talk me on PM so we can't stay here off topic and I'll help you without any problem ^^
ya know I did it recently so I remember the steps


Don't worry Hollow it's the good kind of spooked hell maybe these gals are growing on me:lol: Thanks for the offer I'll attempt it again at some stage but for now I'm too goddamn lazy to cut and paste:D

Han Shot First wrote....

What did you all think about ME3 having Liara and Wrex be such close friends?


I adore Wrex so no complaints on my end, loved the feeling of the old gang reuniting again. Also Wrex ripping on Shep I love that Krogan:D
"I still don't have a window like Liara does...but maybe that's because  I don't kiss as well haha":lol:

Edit: Also everyone seems to be changing their avatars lately... OMG twinsies Aristo and Theo can't tell you guys apart though:huh:

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moreeman06 wrote...

Same question for aristo why the anime and no more liara


It's not that I don't like Liara any more - I still love her as a character, but truthfully? Bioware let me down, and as much as I love the character of Liara, I feel that what is done with her is a billion missed opportunities and mere glimpses and what could be. You don't even get a proper epilogue with her!

It's just disappointing and frustrating. On the other hand, I adore the character I'm using as an avatar for many of the same reasons I like Liara, except her potential isn't wasted and squandered, and basically..almost everything I wanted to see happen with Liara, happens with this character.

I admit lots of this disappointment comes from ME - especially ME3 - just focusing so much more on the large scale war and leaving little behind to flesh out the characters and especially the romances, but all the same it's what I wanted. But they don't even deliver a glimpse of a stable and happy casual life with Liara in a damn epilogue. But I get that desire fulfilled from this character, how she's used.

And I was hopeful for a while, but Leviathan of Dis doesn't look to offer me anything impressive in regards to more Liara content or especially fixing my complaints, so I'll still be disappointed. And I'll be surprised if anything from there on happens either.

edit - also with the influx of Banshee avatars it didn't seem like liking Liara anymore was the "in" thing around here...Posted Image

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Aristobulus500 wrote...
It's not that I don't like Liara any more - I still love her as a character, but truthfully? Bioware let me down, and as much as I love the character of Liara, I feel that what is done with her is a billion missed opportunities and mere glimpses and what could be. You don't even get a proper epilogue with her!

It's just disappointing and frustrating. On the other hand, I adore the character I'm using as an avatar for many of the same reasons I like Liara, except her potential isn't wasted and squandered, and basically..almost everything I wanted to see happen with Liara, happens with this character.

I admit lots of this disappointment comes from ME - especially ME3 - just focusing so much more on the large scale war and leaving little behind to flesh out the characters and especially the romances, but all the same it's what I wanted. But they don't even deliver a glimpse of a stable and happy casual life with Liara in a damn epilogue. But I get that desire fulfilled from this character, how she's used.

And I was hopeful for a while, but Leviathan of Dis doesn't look to offer me anything impressive in regards to more Liara content or especially fixing my complaints, so I'll still be disappointed. And I'll be surprised if anything from there on happens either.

edit - also with the influx of Banshee avatars it didn't seem like liking Liara anymore was the "in" thing around here...Posted Image


Wholeheartedly agree with Aristobulus.

You can visualize casual scenes with Liara, you can write about them, you can see them made in artwork, but it's not the same as actually seeing them in the game itself. You don't get to see this side of Liara, as much as I would have wanted to, and you don't get to see it in actual motion, animated. And that's one of ME3's downfalls, that it fails to deliver on this, to see more of the romance between Liara and Shepard that doesn't have the thought of Reapers looming over their heads.

Even the one scene where they had the opportunity to flesh out this casual side of Liara, and see her relationship with Shepard and how they're like together without thinking of the war for a change, is a missed opportunity. I'm talking about the Citadel date scene, which could have been even better if you didn't have to 'lock in' your romance with Liara and make it seem more like a gameplay feature to earn an achievement rather than actually be a glimpse of what Liara and Shepard's future life together might be like.

As a result, while I was certainly invested in Liara as a character, I could have been invested even more had such scenes been included. Luckily the character in my avatar doesn't have the same problem of not been given enough content, and that has left me even more attached to her. Yeah, the genre of the two settings certainly plays a role here, but that can't be helped.

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Aristobulus500 wrote...


edit - also with the influx of Banshee avatars it didn't seem like liking Liara anymore was the "in" thing around here...Posted Image


ohh but we like liara too.. but will you deny that Banshees are funny??:devil::devil: (just making fun ya know)