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CrimsonN7 wrote...

Casino Royale wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

*Liara/Femshep snip*
by Ma-rin @ DA

This picture is amazing, thank you for sharing. I have to admit, when I first started playing Mass Effect, Liara was an ok character. In ME2, I grew more fond of her, her character had grown and matured a bit. By the time I got into ME3, she had come full circle I think. The gift she gives to you during Priority: Earth, is just an absolutely touching scene. Everything about it, from the camera angles to the music, to the subtlety of Liara putting her head on Shepard's shoulder conveys how deeply she cares for Shep. After that scene, I think it's safe for me to say, I'm now a fan of Liara T'Soni.

No probs I like to spam with pics and gifs most days:D Also welcome we have a new convert:wizard: 

As long as they are Liara, spam away. Thanks, what's the saying I see around here sometimes, "Once you go blue, nothing else will do." 

[CrimsonN7]

Ajosraa wrote...

So...How about Liara's sweat? ;P

I heard it can cure cancer.;P

Hehe but in all seriousness I'm not even sure asari do sweat, I think a while back we talked about this. Err but I draw the line on sweat description.


by entreri @ tumblr

[Mavqt]

*Writes a one off fanfic of a sweaty Liara after her having a rigorous workout.*

I'll just keep this for myself...

[Han Shot First]

On Asari sweating...

Considering the how their bodies are identical to humans, it is guaranteed that the Asari would have survived by persistence hunting in their distant past. Although we tend to think of humans being weak compared to other apex predators, we are actually perfectly designed by nature for persistence hunting. While many animals are more powerful, or more armored, or have sharper teeth or claws, few species can match humans for sheer endurance.

As persistence hunters the primitive Asari would have needed a very effecient method to thermoregulate. So, sweating is a possibility as it is an extremely effecient way to prevent overheating. When this topic came up in the past someone also theorized that the Asari head crests are somehow involved in regulating body temperature. If they don't sweat, I think that is the best theory.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 27 août 2012 - 11:55 .

[Ajosraa]

mavqt wrote...

*Writes a one off fanfic of a sweaty Liara after her having a rigorous workout.*

I'll just keep this for myself...

(I just found this, thought it was funny:) )

[CrimsonN7]

Han Shot First wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

I don't think Liara is in love with Shepard if she isn't romanced.

In fact, she isn't in love with Shepard even on some romanced playthroughs. Say for example the player romanced other characters in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2, and doesn't romance Liara until the third game. In that playthrough Liara will not tell Shepard that she loves him/her. Of course she cares a lot about Shepard, but the relationship hasn't progressed to the stage where she's in love yet.

Liara is always devoted to Shepard regardless of her relationship status, but the motivations are different if she isn't romanced. If unromanced she's devoted to Shepard as one of her closest friends and a comrade-in-arms, and as a leader she greatly admires. Few bonds are tighter than those forged between men who've struggled and fought and bled together. Why shouldn't that be true for Asari as well?

If unromanced I don't think Liara and Shepard are an example of unrequited love.

That being said, the image does have 'head canon' stamped on it.

I for one do think she has strong romantic feelings for Shepard if unromanced. Jeez who wouldn't fall head over heels for Shep she/he is a remarkable charismatic individual, working closely with someone you greatly respect and admire can quickly turn romantic, it happens. You can't help who you fall in love with and I think this is true for Liara in regards to Shep. Thinking back on all Shep has done for Liara, how she/he trusted her without question in front of the crew, taking her under her/his wing, the intimate connection they experienced through the information melds must have left some imprint on Liara, feeling a closer connection to Shep that others could never experience. Shepard saved her life and helped her mature to an extent from the naive scientist of ME1.

The lenghts she went to recover Shepard's body from the Shadow Broker and when pushed by Shep in ME2 I couldn't let you go em that's a powerful line. Looking at the time-capsule scene and the gift scene, even unromanced the content is quite intimate, especially the gift scene when she leans on Shepard's shoulder, you just know she's in love with Shepard but because that Shep is more than likely in a romance she would choose to remain silent and she would respect Shepard's choice of another in her/his life.  

[Mad-Hamlet]

Han Shot First blasted:

On Asari sweating...

I like how your sense of logic works but there's one small wrinkle.
Unless I am mistaken the asari evolved from sea animals on their world and, again I'm reaching back into fuzzy memory, the large deposits of Eezo are supposed to have done something to accelerate that. To compound things even further the possible addition of Prothean meddling AND we have no timeframe to work with.

With all that in mind it's quite possible to make an argument against sweating. Perhaps the 'tentacles' have heat dissipation properties, or there are particular glands or they represent some hybrid form of hot yet cold blooded; there's a lot of room to work with here and that's a pivitol point in good story telling. Were you to write a tale with asari sweating and I not, but yours used the argument you have, and mine as well both would be seen as 'viable'.

Only in a central canon would either/or have to be decided and that would require a thinktank venture. One last example.

I believe it was lillitheris who wrote a short piece describing asari erogenous zones. It's interesting, detailed, makes for some really nice creativity exercises and is totally erroneous in terms of actual possible evolutionary design except for the above mentioned 'grey areas' but it works for his ...her? purposes because the presentation is so well done.
My own ideas differ and (I believe) mesh well with actual possible evolution tracks either taking into or disregarding the grey zones. It's also just ...mine so of course I like it better, nyeah.

The main point is that as long as one present their ideas well and doesn't spin in on it, than asari, or any other alien races', physiology is open to creative fiction.

[AlexMBrennan]

. In that playthrough Liara will not tell Shepard that she loves him/her. Of course she cares a lot about Shepard, but the relationship hasn't progressed to the stage where she's in love yet.

Even if you romance her in ME1 but back out at the last minute in the confrontation?

Assuming for a moment that Liara does love Shepard, that last 'night' together on the Normandy is potentially the last time she'll have an opportunity to tell Shepard how she feels. That she doesn't tell Shepard she loves him/her if romanced late in the series, indicates she doesn't IMO.

There's any number of explanations for this; arbitrarily picking "Liara doesn't love Shepard" as the right one is silly.

Also, I think it's silly that you're treating "love" as a concept with an absolute, clearly defined cut-off point. It's not like a relationship instantly gets "better"/more magical/whatever once you get to 65% "romantic feelings"

Further, Liara doesn't strike me as the person that would have casual sex with a a friend she kinda likes but doesn't love

Considering the how their bodies are identical to humans

Nice try, but unfortunately that's you inventing facts... unless you can point out the codex entry that says that asari are indeed identical to humans. [Hint: If the asari were identical to humans, they'd be humans.That's what "identical" means. ]

[Ajosraa]

I dont think Asari were ever explicitly stated as being from an aquatic origin, that was just many people's assumption. Its never really stated what they are exactly, but from what I see they do share some mammalian features. Only their head fringe looks kinda aquatic imo.

I had a theory that the grooves in the head crest act as canals to channel sweat away from the eyes, since they have no eyebrows to catch the sweat. If they sweat that is.

If not, then I had a more crazy idea based on some form of Thermoelectric cooling (http://en.wikipedia....lectric_cooling).


look, sweaty Liara!

Modifié par Ajosraa, 28 août 2012 - 01:05 .

[coles4971]

GUYS NO SWEAT DISCUSSION PLEASE

[Yuqi]

@Nyxia
Sorry, I can't tell.

@Moreman
Oh I know some really nice ones too, but I seem to meet more of the redheads with tempers.Well Ican say Renegade Fshep does have a nasty temper.

@Newpeople.
Welcome!

@doozer
Aww you missed the last banshee bombing..



I'm glad they didn't include another scene like this pic. I don't think I could've handled the feels..(Since I practiccly always pic control.) Has anyone noticed when they say 'no more about the endings' they hardly ever use the word epilouge? Hmmnn:bandit:

Modifié par Yuqi, 28 août 2012 - 01:11 .

[Yuqi]

coles4971 wrote...

GUYS NO SWEAT DISCUSSION PLEASE

[CrimsonN7]

frudi wrote...

Phew, no banshee spam this time, I can return to the thread now . Wanted to check in a couple times over the last week but I always seemed to turn up when the discussion had taken some bizarre turn
Anyways, I'm back now... *waves at everyone*

They may not say it during their pre-Cronos night together, but Liara does tell Shepard she loves her later in London, during the gift scene.

Also, if you haven't romanced Liara before ME3, there is absolutely no lead up to the romance until the date scene on the Citadel. Shepard pretty much drops the "I think we'd be good together" on her right out of the blue, yet Liara doesn't seem apprehensive about the proposal at all. Surprised for sure; but, to me at least, her reaction seemed like she has cared for Shepard for a while now, she just didn't think Shepard felt the same way about her.
Combined with the lengths to which she went to recover Shepard's body in ME2, the admission of her fascination with Shepard in ME1, some of the scenes in ME3 (especially the gift in London)... I think it all makes for a pretty good case that she has carried a torch for Shepard for a while now.

Still, most of the details are up to headcanon, as is the option to dismiss the notion entirely and just have her be a very close and loyal friend.

You've been away too long Frudi, *awkward acquaintance hug incoming* Welcome back!

How come you always find the right words to say, all I can say is yup to all of this. I just hope Shep has a strong back if she/he only started romancing Liara in ME3, that's alot of pent up sexual frustration to handle, lucky Shep:whistle:


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Modifié par CrimsonN7, 28 août 2012 - 03:19 .

[Ajosraa]

Yuqi wrote...

coles4971 wrote...

GUYS NO SWEAT DISCUSSION PLEASE

ok ok....... how about Saliva?

[Akernis]

Ajosraa wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

coles4971 wrote...

GUYS NO SWEAT DISCUSSION PLEASE

ok ok....... how about Saliva?

... No, not outside of the explicit fics

[Han Shot First]

On Asari aquatic origins...

I believe it was the art team that said they used aquatic creatures as an inspiration for the Asari concept that made it into the game. As such aquatic origins aren't really canon, but I do like them for my head canon.

Of course the Asari are an entirely land-based species in Mass Effect that breathes oxygen from the air, and that has a body designed for land based persistence hunting. So I see their aquatic origins as being farther back on the evolutionary tree, and with their more recent evolutionary ancestors dwelling on land.

Nice try, but unfortunately that's you inventing facts... unless you can point out the codex entry that says that asari are indeed identical to humans. [Hint: If the asari were identical to humans, they'd be humans.That's what "identical" means.

No, I stated a fact.

The Asari do have a identical body shape to humans. That isn't even debatable.
 
As such, I think the the primitive ancestors of the Asari would have also survived by persistence hunting. Just as we can infer that the Asari evolved from predators due to their forward facing eyes, we can also infer that their ancestors survived by persistence hunting since they have a body shape that is perfectly designed for chasing down prey over long distances on land.

There's any number of explanations for this; arbitrarily picking "Liara doesn't love Shepard" as the right one is silly.

Also, I think it's silly that you're treating "love" as a concept with an absolute, clearly defined cut-off point. It's not like a relationship instantly gets "better"/more magical/whatever once you get to 65% "romantic feelings"
Further, Liara doesn't strike me as the person that would have casual sex with a a friend she kinda likes but doesn't love

It is no more silly than arbitrarily stating that Liara is in love with Shepard even when not romanced. Both require making some assumptions about the character, since it isn't explicity stated one way or another in the game.

Also, I think your last statement is a bit odd. So its either head-over-heels in love or casual sex, and nothing in between? I suppose everyones interpretation is colored by their real world experiences, but that certainly doesn't match mine. Most of the relationships I've been in fell somewhere between those two.

I don't think Liara is in love with Shepard in Mass Effect 1 either. I think that develops later. But I certainly don't view her relationship with Shepard in ME1 as being one based on casual sex. I see them as two people that care a lot about each other, but haven't been involved long enough to truly love each other yet. That's just my interpretation of course. I'm sure some people here disagree.

They may not say it during their pre-Cronos night together, but Liara does tell Shepard she loves her later in London, during the gift scene.

I had seen the romance scene where Shepard hadn't romanced Liara until ME3, but must have missed the gift scene. If she tells Shepard that she loves him/her there than I was incorrect in stating that Liara isn't in love with Shepard when romanced late in the series.

I personally don't think she's in love with Shepard when unromanced however. The biggest arument in support of that is recovering Shepard's body and the "I couldn't let you go" line, but neither necessarily guarantees that Liara was in love with Shepard. Love comes in many forms not all of which is romantic, and for me at least I think unromanced Liara's feelings towards Shepard are more akin to the love one would feel towards a brother or sister or the closest of friends.

/head canon

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 août 2012 - 02:02 .

[CrimsonN7]

frudi wrote...

Hey Crimson, thanks for the awkward hug and kind words . And I agree, I've been away for far too long... will try to not let it happen again, real-life be damned

by masseffect-caps @ tumblr

Aren't awkward stranger hugs the best! It's ok Liara forgives your absenteeism... for now:bandit: I will have to stay away from the boards in the next two days myself, don't want any spoilers with Levi as I'm getting it later than you guys/gals. I did it with the EC and can do it again.

[Ajosraa]

Ah, Crimson must live in Europe then.

*snoops profile* Ah ha, Ireland.;P

@akernis lol

Modifié par Ajosraa, 28 août 2012 - 02:34 .

[CrimsonN7]

Ajosraa wrote...

Ah, Crimson must live in Europe then.

Yup... Irish flock represent!!! Maybe this is a baa-d joke?

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 28 août 2012 - 02:58 .

[Ajosraa]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...

Ah, Crimson must live in Europe then.

Yup... Irish flock represent!!! Maybe this is a baa-d joke?

For some reason I keep thinking about if these sheep had glowing green eyes like they were synthesised;P

Join us! Join US!  

[CrimsonN7]

Sweet dreams Frudi, Shepards get cold watching their flocks at night, always a good idea to lit a fire:wizard:



sing it loud and sing it proud! And on that note I'll see you guys/gals after I get Levi. Hope you like it.

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 28 août 2012 - 03:39 .