If we shouldn't base our choices on alignment, then what should we base them on?
Modifié par Boom_Flame, 30 août 2011 - 11:32 .
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If we shouldn't base our choices on alignment, then what should we base them on?
What you feel is right for what you want your Shepard to represent. The meter system is merely a way intended to analyze the general path you've taken. It's not intended to be a guideline, as TMA said.
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TMA LIVE wrote...
I think the problem is that people still play the game, expecting to be Pure Paragons or Pure Renegades, and not just play a character. The points systems is more of just their to show you which type you're more of, not which you should try to achieve at being.
Just a little reminder: this wasn't a problem in ME1, where all you lost was an optional side mission for not punching your meter high enough. Sure, you had to put points in a conversation skill, but I fail to see how that's a bad thing. Here's hoping that one of the branching paths in the "class" skill in ME3 is "ultimate charisma," where you can use all Charm and/or Intimidate dialogue options regardless of where your meter sits (maybe basing which one you have on which meter is higher, though I'd rather just have both).Robhuzz wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
I think the problem is that people still play the game, expecting to be Pure Paragons or Pure Renegades, and not just play a character. The points systems is more of just their to show you which type you're more of, not which you should try to achieve at being.
Perhaps because in the end you can be severely punished (possibly 2 character deaths) for not being 'pure' enough? I always hate the arguments between Miranda/Jack and Legion/Tali. It's always a wonder whether I have enough morality to keep both of them loyal. I'm hoping BW makes the morality bar more of a statistic in ME3 and not so much a defining factor in what Shepard can and can't say.
Modifié par RolandX9, 31 août 2011 - 07:31 .
You this can lead to yet another heated discussion to pretty much the same topicRolandX9 wrote...
So, question: which way will you nudge Liara, if either/any, if given an option in 3? As for myself, here's a hint: Paragon is Blue.
RolandX9 wrote...
Just a little reminder: this wasn't a problem in ME1, where all you lost was an optional side mission for not punching your meter high enough. Sure, you had to put points in a conversation skill, but I fail to see how that's a bad thing. Here's hoping that one of the branching paths in the "class" skill in ME3 is "ultimate charisma," where you can use all Charm and/or Intimidate dialogue options regardless of where your meter sits (maybe basing which one you have on which meter is higher, though I'd rather just have both).Robhuzz wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
I think the problem is that people still play the game, expecting to be Pure Paragons or Pure Renegades, and not just play a character. The points systems is more of just their to show you which type you're more of, not which you should try to achieve at being.
Perhaps because in the end you can be severely punished (possibly 2 character deaths) for not being 'pure' enough? I always hate the arguments between Miranda/Jack and Legion/Tali. It's always a wonder whether I have enough morality to keep both of them loyal. I'm hoping BW makes the morality bar more of a statistic in ME3 and not so much a defining factor in what Shepard can and can't say.
Edit: Apologies, getting seriously off-topic here. So, question: which way will you nudge Liara, if either/any, if given an option in 3? As for myself, here's a hint: Paragon is Blue.
Fair enough, but then you also need to have a conversation choice with the Reapers to persuade them that they are wrong and should shoot themselves in the head.alex90c wrote...
RolandX9 wrote...
Just a little reminder: this wasn't a problem in ME1, where all you lost was an optional side mission for not punching your meter high enough. Sure, you had to put points in a conversation skill, but I fail to see how that's a bad thing. Here's hoping that one of the branching paths in the "class" skill in ME3 is "ultimate charisma," where you can use all Charm and/or Intimidate dialogue options regardless of where your meter sits (maybe basing which one you have on which meter is higher, though I'd rather just have both).Robhuzz wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
I think the problem is that people still play the game, expecting to be Pure Paragons or Pure Renegades, and not just play a character. The points systems is more of just their to show you which type you're more of, not which you should try to achieve at being.
Perhaps because in the end you can be severely punished (possibly 2 character deaths) for not being 'pure' enough? I always hate the arguments between Miranda/Jack and Legion/Tali. It's always a wonder whether I have enough morality to keep both of them loyal. I'm hoping BW makes the morality bar more of a statistic in ME3 and not so much a defining factor in what Shepard can and can't say.
Edit: Apologies, getting seriously off-topic here. So, question: which way will you nudge Liara, if either/any, if given an option in 3? As for myself, here's a hint: Paragon is Blue.
Maybe the persuasion skill for P/R can cost twice as much to upgrade as other skills? that way sure, you can do good in persuasion convos but you're leaving the potential to screw yourself over combat-wise since your other skills will be more undeveloped.
Kadzin wrote...
Fair enough, but then you also need to have a conversation choice with the Reapers to persuade them that they are wrong and should shoot themselves in the head.alex90c wrote...
RolandX9 wrote...
Just a little reminder: this wasn't a problem in ME1, where all you lost was an optional side mission for not punching your meter high enough. Sure, you had to put points in a conversation skill, but I fail to see how that's a bad thing. Here's hoping that one of the branching paths in the "class" skill in ME3 is "ultimate charisma," where you can use all Charm and/or Intimidate dialogue options regardless of where your meter sits (maybe basing which one you have on which meter is higher, though I'd rather just have both).Robhuzz wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
I think the problem is that people still play the game, expecting to be Pure Paragons or Pure Renegades, and not just play a character. The points systems is more of just their to show you which type you're more of, not which you should try to achieve at being.
Perhaps because in the end you can be severely punished (possibly 2 character deaths) for not being 'pure' enough? I always hate the arguments between Miranda/Jack and Legion/Tali. It's always a wonder whether I have enough morality to keep both of them loyal. I'm hoping BW makes the morality bar more of a statistic in ME3 and not so much a defining factor in what Shepard can and can't say.
Edit: Apologies, getting seriously off-topic here. So, question: which way will you nudge Liara, if either/any, if given an option in 3? As for myself, here's a hint: Paragon is Blue.
Maybe the persuasion skill for P/R can cost twice as much to upgrade as other skills? that way sure, you can do good in persuasion convos but you're leaving the potential to screw yourself over combat-wise since your other skills will be more undeveloped.
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Renatka82 wrote...
I guess you probably saw this tribute on youtube. But it's really the best vid of Liara - just can't stop watching!
Liara T'Soni - The Scientist
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It seems a lot of people play the game how they think it should be played and not how they actually want to play it.Boom_Flame wrote...
If we shouldn't base our choices on alignment, then what should we base them on?
What you feel is right for what you want your Shepard to represent. The meter system is merely a way intended to analyze the general path you've taken. It's not intended to be a guideline, as TMA said.
Perhaps, I personally take Paragon choices, because that's what I could have done in that situation, I still pick up Renegade points here and there, but are predominantly Paragon, I just enjoy the game more that way.jreezy wrote...
It seems a lot of people play the game how they think it should be played and not how they actually want to play it.Boom_Flame wrote...
If we shouldn't base our choices on alignment, then what should we base them on?
What you feel is right for what you want your Shepard to represent. The meter system is merely a way intended to analyze the general path you've taken. It's not intended to be a guideline, as TMA said.
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I think how you play is not necessarily the right way but the better way. You analyze the situation and depending on what's happening you pick the response that fits with what you would have done. You're not particularly worried about Paragon points but because of how you react to situations you end up as a Paragon. I just think too many people worry too much about Paragon/Renegade instead of just playing how they want to play it. There's nothing wrong with it but I think it's probably too restrictive. In my most recent ME2 file I played as a Paragade, I wasn't stressing over if I had enough points too resolve a situation with blue or red dialog. When it came time to resolve the Miranda/Jack fight I didn't have enough P/R points but I didn't care. I picked a side and moved on.Kadzin wrote...
Perhaps, I personally take Paragon choices, because that's what I could have done in that situation, I still pick up Renegade points here and there, but are predominantly Paragon, I just enjoy the game more that way.jreezy wrote...
It seems a lot of people play the game how they think it should be played and not how they actually want to play it.Boom_Flame wrote...
If we shouldn't base our choices on alignment, then what should we base them on?
What you feel is right for what you want your Shepard to represent. The meter system is merely a way intended to analyze the general path you've taken. It's not intended to be a guideline, as TMA said.
Modifié par jreezy, 31 août 2011 - 01:46 .
canon dictates my femshep will always be a good girl w/ a serious mean streak. she's nice enuff but getting on her bad side usually means someone isnt gonna live to see the next cutscene. i never make decisions based on how many P/R points shep gets, whatever happens happensjreezy wrote...
It seems a lot of people play the game how they think it should be played and not how they actually want to play it.Boom_Flame wrote...
If we shouldn't base our choices on alignment, then what should we base them on?
What you feel is right for what you want your Shepard to represent. The meter system is merely a way intended to analyze the general path you've taken. It's not intended to be a guideline, as TMA said.
QueenHyrule wrote...
Renatka82 wrote...
I guess you probably saw this tribute on youtube. But it's really the best vid of Liara - just can't stop watching!
Liara T'Soni - The Scientist
That is beautiful, but strange since my shep is female.. I really like that amv. The songs perfect.
Mind you, I found a couple of good Liara videos. One of them was with a song by Thirty Seconds To Mars- I think it may of been This is war? or something like that...
But so far this is my faveourate The song's so beautiful.
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I also play Mass Effect how I think a certain Shepard will act. My maleshep is a bit of a nice guy, he tries to play nice with most people even if they don't deserve it but he can have a mean streak. My FemShep is a little suspicious of aliens so she treats them different then how she treats humans. She doesn't take crap from anyone though no matter who they are. If she thinks you're being rude she'll be a lot less accommodating.Red Son Rising wrote...
canon dictates my femshep will always be a good girl w/ a serious mean streak. she's nice enuff but getting on her bad side usually means someone isnt gonna live to see the next cutscene. i never make decisions based on how many P/R points shep gets, whatever happens happensjreezy wrote...
It seems a lot of people play the game how they think it should be played and not how they actually want to play it.Boom_Flame wrote...
If we shouldn't base our choices on alignment, then what should we base them on?
What you feel is right for what you want your Shepard to represent. The meter system is merely a way intended to analyze the general path you've taken. It's not intended to be a guideline, as TMA said.
somewhere along the way theres always an event that turns shep toward the dark side tho. sometimes the council shuns her or maybe morinth seduces her. The Arrival always has a profound affect on femsheps psyche tho and its rare but, sometimes, tela vasir's accusations about cerberus even ring true
ive never upgraded the med-bay because i like seein the scar tissue glow by the end of the game. femshep isnt a saint but shes no serial killer either. life as a [dead] spectre is complicated and theres no room for idealists or stargazers when the galaxy needs saving
my last run was 100% paragon / 75% renegade. i doubt ill ever seen 100/100 but i know its possible, not sure if i wanna do that deliberately tho. if its happens i wont complain tho, id love to see it
QueenHyrule wrote...
That is beautiful, but strange since my shep is female.. I really like that amv. The songs perfect.
Mind you, I found a couple of good Liara videos. One of them was with a song by Thirty Seconds To Mars- I think it may of been This is war? or something like that...
But so far this is my faveourate The song's so beautiful.
(I go by D3ATHB3RRYCHAN on there). I was told by somebody that one of my videos made its way on here, the song was Starry Eyed by Ellie Goulding, which I was surprised about I didn't think anyone would ever watch them.
I already know, I won't defuse those two arguments with my paragade single Shepard. I just have to figure out which person I will back. My goal it to keep paragon below 75% and renegade about 50%. Those numbers will seriously gimp you when it comes to difusing arguments aboard the Normandy.Robhuzz wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
I think the problem is that people still play the game, expecting to be Pure Paragons or Pure Renegades, and not just play a character. The points systems is more of just their to show you which type you're more of, not which you should try to achieve at being.
Perhaps because in the end you can be severely punished (possibly 2 character deaths) for not being 'pure' enough? I always hate the arguments between Miranda/Jack and Legion/Tali. It's always a wonder whether I have enough morality to keep both of them loyal. I'm hoping BW makes the morality bar more of a statistic in ME3 and not so much a defining factor in what Shepard can and can't say.
jreezy wrote...
I also play Mass Effect how I think a certain Shepard will act. My maleshep is a bit of a nice guy, he tries to play nice with most people even if they don't deserve it but he can have a mean streak. My FemShep is a little suspicious of aliens so she treats them different then how she treats humans. She doesn't take crap from anyone though no matter who they are. If she thinks you're being rude she'll be a lot less accommodating.
Granted it requires you to plan the order of what missions you do VERY CAREFULLY.Modifié par Lizardviking, 31 août 2011 - 02:49 .
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