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Secondly I would not like to see Liara by herself some hundreds of years after ME3. For me Liara's life is intertwined with Shepard's and seeing her alone would not feel right for me, especially not if seeing her as an matriarch as I have grow so attached to her as she is now.


If Liara returned in another game as a 900 year old matriarch, I doubt Liara would have been alone all those years. I think Shepard is her first and perpaps greatest love, but not her last.

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Iv'e always liked Ash since she has fire inside of her. She's charismatic and honest. She doubt's you but she's always open about it. (which I like)
Kaidan on the other hand... I feel like I need a cup of coffee next to me so I don't sleep whilst he talks.

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Han Shot First wrote...


Secondly I would not like to see Liara by herself some hundreds of years after ME3. For me Liara's life is intertwined with Shepard's and seeing her alone would not feel right for me, especially not if seeing her as an matriarch as I have grow so attached to her as she is now.

If Liara returned in another game as a 900 year old matriarch, I doubt Liara would have been alone all those years. I think Shepard is her first and perpaps greatest love, but not her last.


Let me rephrase myself:

And seeing her without Shepard would not feel right for me.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Secondly I would not like to see Liara by herself some hundreds of years after ME3. For me Liara's life is intertwined with Shepard's and seeing her alone would not feel right for me, especially not if seeing her as an matriarch as I have grow so attached to her as she is now.


If Liara returned in another game as a 900 year old matriarch, I doubt Liara would have been alone all those years. I think Shepard is her first and perpaps greatest love, but not her last.


Shepard is no doubt the love of her life and she will mourn him/her for many years but I would want her to move on after Shepard passes. I could see her maybe having two more bondmates after Shep, I would want her to find happiness again, not to live out her long life in constant mourning.:(

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Han Shot First wrote...

Secondly I would not like to see Liara by herself some hundreds of years after ME3. For me Liara's life is intertwined with Shepard's and seeing her alone would not feel right for me, especially not if seeing her as an matriarch as I have grow so attached to her as she is now.


If Liara returned in another game as a 900 year old matriarch, I doubt Liara would have been alone all those years. I think Shepard is her first and perpaps greatest love, but not her last.

I think by 'by herself' and 'alone' Akernis probably meant Liara without Shepard, not that she would literally be alone for the rest of her life.

Myself, I don't want to see any cameos of Liara in future ME games, except maybe in a way that doesn't reveal any information of what has happened with her since the end of ME3. I don't want official canon screwing with my headcanon :P. And that includes her dying, however heroic or emotional her death in the game may turn out to be.


edit: lol, I even refreshed the page to see if Akernis had already replied to Han Shot First... still got :ph34r:'d in the time it took me to change tabs and click 'submit' =] 

Modifié par frudi, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:43 .


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frudi wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Secondly I would not like to see Liara by herself some hundreds of years after ME3. For me Liara's life is intertwined with Shepard's and seeing her alone would not feel right for me, especially not if seeing her as an matriarch as I have grow so attached to her as she is now.

If Liara returned in another game as a 900 year old matriarch, I doubt Liara would have been alone all those years. I think Shepard is her first and perpaps greatest love, but not her last.

I think by 'by herself' and 'alone' Akernis probably meant Liara without Shepard, not that she would literally be alone for the rest of her life.

Myself, I don't want to see any cameos of Liara in future ME games, except maybe in a way that doesn't reveal any information of what has happened with her since the end of ME3. I don't want official canon screwing with my headcanon :P. And that includes her dying, however heroic or emotional her death in the game may turn out to be.

My thoughts exactly, frudi I sometimes get the impression that you can read my mind Posted Image

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Modifié par Akernis, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:53 .


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I'd be fine with Liara returning in a future game, but I'd hate it if they showed her with somebody other than Shepard. Not that I'm not okay with the idea of her moving on after Shepard's death, but if I saw her with somebody else on-screen I'd probably go all twitchy eyed and start thinking: "You...you get away from her...you..."

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She doesn't have to be alone; she has her and shep's daughters to keep her company ;]

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How did you manage to post it here faster than me? Posted Image


I have my ways.

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Found it here.


Not a huge Control fan, but this is a really nice picture. Thanks for sharing it.

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Doesn't the AI entity (reference) make it rather clear that it isn't Shepard?

Regardless, I find the idea (upload your brain to be with your partner forever) rather more creepy and terrifying than romantic.
[I'm also allergic to life extension treatment for Shepard - maybe because the implication is that the writer doesn't think that Liara is worth perusing if you can't grow old together?]

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 02 septembre 2012 - 11:31 .


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I resonate to calm people more then the hot headed and brash. That's why I like Liara's character so much...among other reasons, and that usually means that Ashley ends up dying often in my playthroughs. I just find Kaidan's relaxed and laid-back personality more appealing to me.

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Doesn't the AI entity (reference) make it rather clear that it isn't Shepard?

Regardless, I find the idea (upload your brain to be with your partner forever) rather more creepy and terrifying than romantic.
[I'm also allergic to life extension treatment for Shepard - maybe because the implication is that the writer doesn't think that Liara is worth perusing if you can't grow old together?]


Not going to go into details, but I headcanon the implants increasing Shep's life, and no where near to the asari life span.

Modifié par mavqt, 02 septembre 2012 - 11:41 .


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mavqt wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Doesn't the AI entity (reference) make it rather clear that it isn't Shepard?

Regardless, I find the idea (upload your brain to be with your partner forever) rather more creepy and terrifying than romantic.
[I'm also allergic to life extension treatment for Shepard - maybe because the implication is that the writer doesn't think that Liara is worth perusing if you can't grow old together?]


Not going to go into details, but I headcanon the implants increasing Sheps life, and no where near the asari life span.


I'm with you on that Mavqt, I see others in fanfiction too agreeing that because of the Cerberus implants and with regular upgrades to keep em in tact Shep will live a prolonged life, much longer than the average human of ME universe, nothing as long as an asari though but a pretty prolonged life nonetheless.;)

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Doesn't the AI entity (reference) make it rather clear that it isn't Shepard?

Regardless, I find the idea (upload your brain to be with your partner forever) rather more creepy and terrifying than romantic.
[I'm also allergic to life extension treatment for Shepard - maybe because the implication is that the writer doesn't think that Liara is worth perusing if you can't grow old together?]


I only recently appreciated Liara as a Love Interest (and what a compelling love story it is!) and I can perfectly agree with you. I'm not against people who prefer to think about having a reunion with her, but I think Liara is not attainable by her own nature.

Maybe I'm not a true Liaramancer (though I can assure you that I'm loving this character) but as a Synthesis-choser, I'm perfectly okay with Liara starting a new life with Javik. Shepard will forever be in the memories of an entire Galaxy, and in her heart: it's enough for me. 

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AlexMBrennan wrote...
I'm also allergic to life extension treatment for Shepard - maybe because the implication is that the writer doesn't think that Liara is worth perusing if you can't grow old together]

That seems like a strange outlook on the idea to me, why would the writer think that just because he or she would desire that Liara and Sheaprd spend their lives together? 

I am a fan of life extension for Sheaprd so that they can be together longer, but for me Liara is without a shadow of doubt more than worth persuing and being with regardless of how long they spend together, whether it be only the time of a normal human lifespan or near on a millennium or anywhere inbetween.
But to each his or her own. 

Modifié par Akernis, 02 septembre 2012 - 11:48 .


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mavqt wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Doesn't the AI entity (reference) make it rather clear that it isn't Shepard?

Regardless, I find the idea (upload your brain to be with your partner forever) rather more creepy and terrifying than romantic.
[I'm also allergic to life extension treatment for Shepard - maybe because the implication is that the writer doesn't think that Liara is worth perusing if you can't grow old together?]


Not going to go into details, but I headcanon the implants increasing Shep's life, and no where near to the asari life span.


I've always thought similarly. I'd say he/she would live to be about 250. 

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Jonata wrote...

I only recently appreciated Liara as a Love Interest (and what a compelling love story it is!) and I can perfectly agree with you. I'm not against people who prefer to think about having a reunion with her, but I think Liara is not attainable by her own nature.

Maybe I'm not a true Liaramancer (though I can assure you that I'm loving this character) but as a Synthesis-choser, I'm perfectly okay with Liara starting a new life with Javik. Shepard will forever be in the memories of an entire Galaxy, and in her heart: it's enough for me. 


Javik and Liara worst headcannon ever!:sick: Javik would never mate with an asari anyway, he'd consider such a union to be beneath him and I doubt Liara is even remotely sexually attracted to him anyway, she was fascinated by his people nothing more:whistle: The only person I could see Liara being with in game if not with Shep is Feron, some say Kaidan but he's not alive in my playthroughs.;)

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Akernis wrote...

My thoughts exactly, frudi I sometimes get the impression that you can read my mind Posted Image

What? Mind reading? No, certainly not! What are you implying, that I've been stealing Devil's research data, running my own secret experiments on Asari and Leviathans, trying to figure out their mind reading techniques? Because I'm not! Those claims are preposterous!

*crickets*

Stop looking at me like that! It's not true! :innocent:


Anyway, back to sanity and the issue of Ash and Kaidan... I was never much into either of them. Not that I disliked them, in fact I still respected and admired them both, they just both seemed kind of bland compared to what were to me the more interesting alien characters. And I found it kind of hard to relate to them, especially to Ash.

When it came to the decision on Virmire, I almost always ended up saving Ash; in fact I don't know if I've ever even imported any of my very few Kaidan savegames into ME2. Not that I had something against him specifically, just a combination of reminding me too much of Carth and insistently ninja-mancing my femSheps. Both led me to eventually more or less ignore him in most playthroughs and that also made the Virmire decision pretty straightforward. Sometimes I actually felt kind of bad about how dismissively I'd treated the poor guy :?

So in ME3 I obviously had Ash alive and I thought she really got treated poorly by the writers, it's like they purposefully tried to make her as annoying and dull as possible. At first all she does is bit*h to Shepard every time she opens her mouth, but even once that's over she doesn't really have any significant content. We hardly find out anything new about her. Even if she's not exactly my favourite I think she deserved to be presented better, there's plenty of interesting sides to her that could have been explored.

I figured Kaidan would have gotten a similar treatment in ME3, but when I did a no-import playthrough with him alive I was really surprised by how much better he was treated compared to Ash. Especially his transformation from being initially sceptical about Shep to finally trusting her again was made a lot more believable; with Ash I always got the feeling that she never really got over it but instead just dropped it because that's what she's supposed to do, because Shep is her commanding officer and Ash is supposed to fall in line and not question her. But with Kaidan we actually get a really insightful dialogue about his thoughts on Cerberus, on Illusive Man and on Shep working with them.
And in general I felt we get more new insight into his character compared to Ash - we learn more about his service history before ME3, about his family, his thoughts on the war, he even has some nice dialogues with the other crew members (including a talk with Adams and Shep about Liara after Thessia). All in all I think he was just portrayed much better and in fact I've come to really like him from that single playthrough.

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^^I used to ship Garrus/Liara, but Garrus/Tali kind of killed that. :/

EDIT: I just realized how close we are to 2000 pages...

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 03 septembre 2012 - 12:00 .


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Do we know how old Steven Hacket is? I always headcannoned him to be around 100 or so, just because he looks old, and in lore, a person only starts to show their age after their 90's. Shepard should easily be able to live till 200, seeing as how Miranda also can live that long, and both are upgrades of the standard human.

I'm also in the boat that believes Liara should happily move on with the rest of her life after Shepard dies, as long as Shepard isn't forgotten. I never got why people need to assume that, just because a widow finds new love, it doesn't mean that they no longer care for their lost loved ones.

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TheCrimsonSpire wrote...

Do we know how old Steven Hacket is? I always headcannoned him to be around 100 or so, just because he looks old, and in lore, a person only starts to show their age after their 90's. Shepard should easily be able to live till 200, seeing as how Miranda also can live that long, and both are upgrades of the standard human.


Well, he was born in 2134, so he's only 52 in ME3.

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@Frudi true Ashley was treated very poorly in ME3, she had so much potential with her military family history and all, could have fleshed out that a bit more perhaps.:whistle: Compared to Kaidan she was pretty anti-social on the ship, not mixing with anyone else just staying put in her quarters. She's an intelligent girl, why didn't we get to see more of the Ash of ME1? When you look at Kaidan's content jeez what the hell Bioware.<_<

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