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[Zazzerka]

No little blue children? What a horrible future.
But if you're happy with it, I have absolutely no issue.

I just like the Disney ending.

[shepard1038]

Choose synthesis and everyone will live forever.

Modifié par shepard1038, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:23 .

[Zazzerka]

Except Shepard. You could argue that he's become a part of everyone, but that's just damned creepy.
There are plenty of other reasons that I dislike Synthesis, but the arguments can get pretty intense, so I'll try not to get one started.

[shepard1038]

You could say that everyone now has Shepard's essence. So in a way Shepard will always be with Liara. Also welcome to the Liara thread.

[Zazzerka]

Thanks, I'm quite enjoying it so far. :happy:

How would she know that it was even Shepard's essence? As far as any survivors are concerned, they just turned a bit green. So Synthesis still doesn't sit right with me. I need Shep's physical body to be there. It'd hard to have a conversation or 'embrace eternity' with your cells/DNA.

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 03 septembre 2012 - 09:09 .

[cohina]

PMC65 wrote...

Now, I am not at that age yet so I'm going to take their word that by the 70's and on the soul is ready to go somewhere else. That we reach a point where dying isn't feared but embraced.

Now we have a philosophical issue here with this one. What is a soul, does such a thing even exist?  Where and what is that somewhere were we supposedly go after dying? I personally believe there is no such thing as a soul, we're merely a pile of different kinds of tissue and electrochemistry, nothing more. And I don't believe in afterlife either. Of course I can't say if the god or gods or afterlife exists or not, but personally I hope that when I die there'll be nothing more for "my soul", I really do hope there is no "heavenly paradise" for me. When I die, I want to die for good. The electrochemical reactions in my body and brain just end and that's it. Of course it is yet to be scientifically proven what the connection between mind and body is, is the mind separate from the body or are they a one whole?

I do get the idea of "wanting to move forward" though. That you are "tired" of living, that you simply think you've already had your share of all this, and it's your time to go. It's hard to say how I will feel when I'm old, has the desire to leave this world already, something to do with religious beliefs and a hope of going to heaven or something or is it universal for all of us?


Hmm... guess I should add some blue to compensate for going OT

Liara pushes all the annoying OT out of her way 

[CroGamer002]

frudi wrote...

TheCrimsonSpire wrote...

1000 years I understand to be crazily unrealistic, but so does 70. Unless you have a specific reason behind it, like they get an illness, or they are wounded.

I respectfully disagree . In my headcanon, every human that survives until about 2250 can chose to undergo gene therapy that makes them practically immortal (theoretically, in practice no one is yet sure what unknown effects might occur as the human body goes through say thousand or ten thousand years of life). Not everyone goes through with it though and even of those who do... some end up regretting it.

Ironically and sadly, even though the procedure is based largely on research into asari longevity, it can not be adapted to extend their own life span, since they die 'of old age' for different reasons. So Liara will eventually still die, but my Shepard will outlive her.
Asari are supposed to be able to deal with the loss of their shorter-lived partners; humans on the other hand... I'm not yet sure how Shepard will handle it.

Well, it was said in ME universe that humans can live up to 150 years.

And Miranda said she can live twice as much, due to her modified genes.
But with side effect of not being able to bear children.

[Han Shot First]

frudi wrote...

[I've also always been against the idea of any kind of relationship between ShepAI and Liara (or any LI for that matter). I do kind of understand the romantic appeal of it, but to me it's not just creepy but also unfair and cruel to Liara. Better to let her believe her Shepard is completely gone; well, she actually is gone, the fact that ShepAI is actually an AI construct, possibly altered in unpredictable ways, makes the whole romance idea even more creepy.

I also think the Control romance is out of character for Liara, in addition to being creepy. I just don't see Liara having mind sex with a Reaper. IMO the Control Ending ends any romances Shepard may have had, along with his or her life.

[Akernis]

GT Zazzerka wrote...
I just like the Disney ending.

Normally I have little or no need for those but in the case of Liara and Shepard I completely agree

[Zazzerka]

Akernis wrote...

GT Zazzerka wrote...
I just like the Disney ending.

Normally I have little or no need for those but in the case of Liara and Shepard I completely agree
[pic]

A great picture. There was a good picture a few pages back, of the T'Soni-Shepard family on a beach. Which would have been a perfect (for me), if mushy, ending.

frudi wrote.....
 I can't even begin to imagine it [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]. Whenever I try, I just get ambushed by onion ninjas...

Yeah, that thought wrecks me.
Onion ninjas.. now that, is a great excuse.

frudi wrote...
 she

Yeah, sorry. My Shepards always been male, so I'm very quick to throw 'he' and 'him' about.
Didn't mean to force any male-ness on you, just habit.

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 03 septembre 2012 - 12:34 .

[N172]

For me its something like:

150 normal human
+200 Lazarus Project side effects
+200 Gratitude of the galaxy
+100 Liaras effords to keep shepard healthy
+100 Beeing with Liara and the resulting Willpower

=750, so liara will still outlive shepard, but she can live the majority of her live with him/her

[Wulfram]

For me it's more like

150 normal human
-50 Lazarus Project side effects. Dieing is not good for your health.
-20 Akuze and all the other occasions they've been shot at or blown up
-50 Being blown up by the Crucible
+30 Liara.

Modifié par Wulfram, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:52 .

[d32f123]

Wulfram wrote...

For me it's more like

150 normal human
-50 Lazarus Project side effects. Dieing is not good for your health.
-20 Akuze and all the other occasions they've been shot at or blown up
-50 Being blown up by the Crucible
+30 Liara.

Actually I thought they said that only lucky one hits 150, so normal is about 100-130.
Lazarus was good for Shepard health even if he\\she was dead, they gave him\\her implants that'd defenitly do his\\her life longer.
About Akuze: i do not understand what are you talking about P:
About Crucible: i think it would not be so bad for his\\her health, just about 2-10 years, and about Liara... well... i don't know

Modifié par d32f123, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:09 .

[CrimsonN7]

This is pretty cool listening to everyone's headcannon. I'm in the same belief as most Shep will live a more prolonged life than the average ME human with advances in medical science, regular upgrades to her Cerberus implants, having the Lazurus project's headwoman as a personal friend will ensure she's well looked after post Reaper War. For me she will die many centuries before Liara, both are aware of this fact and for Liara it's more tragic, Shep is the love of her life but she will treasure their time together and for me she will have her children as a comfort and a reminder of her bondmate too. Yeah I wanted the happy ending, Shep deserved it, thank god for fanfiction, it's helped me cope alot with that ending.



by surranas @ tumblr

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:16 .

[R0binME]

Wulfram wrote...

For me it's more like

150 normal human
-50 Lazarus Project side effects. Dieing is not good for your health.
-20 Akuze and all the other occasions they've been shot at or blown up
-50 Being blown up by the Crucible
+30 Liara.

150 normal human(even tough Shepard says "If you are lucky")
-(50) Dying a couple of times
-(10) Losing family on Mindoir
-(10) In contact with soo many reapers
+150 Project Lazarus
+100 For being healthy
+Until Liara dies, due to powerful technological achivements some time after the reaper invasion.

We can only wish right

[Zazzerka]

@CrimsonN7
I'm with you there, to the 'T'.
Plus, one of the conversations with Liara in ME1 reveals that asari for the most part remarkably optimistic about the inevitable deaths of their partners. And while asari, like humans, probably differ from person to person, its just a small bit of extra comfort and hope that you wouldn't be leaving behind a distraught widow.

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:28 .

[R0binME]

d32f123 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

-20 Akuze and all the other occasions they've been shot at or blown up

About Akuze: i do not understand what are you talking about P:

One of Shepard's military history before Mass Effect 1 took place. Shepard endured extreme physical trauma, where few could survive. Shepard was the sole survivor(later revealed a marine named "Toombs" also survived the events on Akuze.

[CrimsonN7]

^^As Liara has said you are remarkably strong-willed Commander, what Shep has endured would have killed the average soldier but Shepard is unique, a force of nature almost.

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:47 .

[lillitheris]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

A great picture, would be perfect if it was ManShep.

You can go ahead and stop mentioning that, just to stave off any jostling about it…Edit: either preference, that is. Unfortunately BoyShep is at a disadvantage where it comes to fan creations. There’s just not as many creators interested in him. If you draw/write/whatever, do share.

People like one or the other (or, sometimes, both) and there’s really no need to make any distinction between them except for the occasional good-natured ribbing.

Modifié par lillitheris, 03 septembre 2012 - 12:33 .

[mumba]

Protip: don't ever compare Maleshep to Femshep on BSN, you'll get your s*** pushed in.

[Zazzerka]

lillitheris wrote...
You can go ahead and stop mentioning that,
just to stave off any jostling about it…Edit: either preference, that
is. Unfortunately BoyShep is at a disadvantage where it comes to fan
creations. There’s just not as many creators interested in him. If you
draw/write/whatever, do share.

People like one or the other (or,
sometimes, both) and there’s really no need to make any distinction
between them except for the occasional good-natured ribbing.

Sorry, I thought I only mentioned it once, and that was only because of confusion regarding the uses of him, her, he, she etc. I understand that FemShep is more popular here, and I'm fine with that.
I've edited out the offending post, it was poorly worded; I'm certainly not here to fight with people or push my beliefs on anyone.
Sorry, newbie doesn't know all the rules, yet.

Mumba1511 wrote...

Protip: don't ever compare Maleshep to Femshep on BSN, you'll get your s*** pushed in.

Noted.

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 03 septembre 2012 - 12:46 .

[Mavqt]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

This is pretty cool listening to everyone's headcannon. I'm in the same belief as most Shep will live a more prolonged life than the average ME human with advances in medical science, regular upgrades to her Cerberus implants, having the Lazurus project's headwoman as a personal friend will ensure she's well looked after post Reaper War. For me she will die many centuries before Liara, both are aware of this fact and for Liara it's more tragic, Shep is the love of her life but she will treasure their time together and for me she will have her children as a comfort and a reminder of her bondmate too. Yeah I wanted the happy ending, Shep deserved it, thank god for fanfiction, it's helped me cope alot with that ending.

*Didn't want to, but had to snip.*

by surranas @ tumblr

You just hit the nail on the head, at least for me.

Edit: Top.

This body?

Modifié par mavqt, 03 septembre 2012 - 12:39 .

[rubynorman]

Just came back from my vacation. Lucky for me, I didn't miss the 2000th page.
@Akernis: that is a very nice fanart.
@Fudi: beautiful new avatar.

Wulfram wrote...

For me it's more like

150 normal human
-50 Lazarus Project side effects. Dieing is not good for your health.
-20 Akuze and all the other occasions they've been shot at or blown up
-50 Being blown up by the Crucible
+30 Liara.

+ 150 normal human
+ 500 Lazarus Project
+ Time dilation ( spacer Shep)
+ Happy life with Liara
+ Technology advances
= My happy ending