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[Steelcan]

Just wondering do Liara fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

[d32f123]

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

Just... go away.

[lillitheris]

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

Just to stave off trollishness:

1. Yes, it’s fair that Liara gets a reasonably good romance scene;
2. No, it’s not fair that others do not get as good a scene;
3. No, it’s not fair that Liara has the least romance-specific content in ME3.

That answer your question?

[Steelcan]

d32f123 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

Just... go away.

. I felt that it cheapened her character.  She was great in ME and ME2, but she got preferential treatment in ME3.  Or am I not allowed to ask questions?

[Steelcan]

lillitheris wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

Just to stave off trollishness:

1. Yes, it’s fair that Liara gets a reasonably good romance scene;
2. No, it’s not fair that others do not get as good a scene;
3. No, it’s not fair that Liara has the least romance-specific content in ME3.

That answer your question?

. There is a difference between trolling and asking a question

[AlexMBrennan]

Now, you're right. Because they screwed up with some of the other LI, the game would have been vastly improved if they had also screwed up the Liara content. People like you are a credit to BSN ("If I can't play with my toys, I'll break yours too").

Seriously though, what was the point of introducing all these character if Bioware had no intention of taking them anywhere? What was the point of ME2 if not to set up ME3? They did have a plan, right?

Oh wait, they have said that they didn't have plan for the series and just made it up as they went along.

[lillitheris]

Steelcan wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

Just to stave off trollishness:

1. Yes, it’s fair that Liara gets a reasonably good romance scene;
2. No, it’s not fair that others do not get as good a scene;
3. No, it’s not fair that Liara has the least romance-specific content in ME3.

That answer your question?

. There is a difference between trolling and asking a question

Exactly.

[Arcataye]

Everyone could have just not reply. Oh well here we go again... Maybe start yet another hate thread instead of fighting here.
--

Anyways, this one guy I'm subscribed on Youtube for multiplayer videos posted the first episode of his ME2 lets-play. He started it by saying like five times during the intro that he loves Liara. For some reason that made me smile.

Modifié par Arcataye, 05 septembre 2012 - 01:32 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AlexMBrennan wrote...
Oh wait, they have said that they didn't have plan for the series and just made it up as they went along.

A pity there are so few people who realise this.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 05 septembre 2012 - 01:35 .

[mumba]

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

Do I care? no, not really.

[Steelcan]

Good to know I can't ask questions and be taken seriously, I'm automatically dismissed as a troll

[Zazzerka]

Oh yeah.. all it takes is me posting to kickstart the thread again.. in a bad way.


Shep and baby because I said so.

by Saka88Bln

[mumba]

^Haha I was oblivious to the fact that we were on a new page before you posted. Otherwise I would have posted xD

[Arcataye]

Steelcan wrote...

Good to know I can't ask questions and be taken seriously, I'm automatically dismissed as a troll

Okay, imagine that your LI got some extremely verbal haters on BSN and you see new hate posts and threads about the character every day. Just hate and ignorance, even stupidity (asking for less for others instead of more for them).

Now imagine someone coming into your LI's thread and asking: "Just wondering do <LI> fans think its fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3". The statement in the question is not even true.

What were you expecting?

Modifié par Arcataye, 05 septembre 2012 - 02:01 .

[Han Shot First]

On Anderson's cut dialogue from ME3...

I think the original Anderson dialogue was cut because Anderson will tell Shepard he never had a family in the cut dialogue, which is incorrect. In the books it is mentioned that Anderson had been married at one point, but military life finally took its toll and his wife left him. In Lair of the Shadow Broker it is heavily implied that Anderson had a son with that ex wife.

From LotSB:

Intercept 04:23//#12947 - DA - 325
Sender: Cynthia Barris, Atlanta, Earth

David,
Henry and I went to Jason's graduation ceremony in San Francisco today. Such a beautiful occasion! All those gowns and bright spirits. So much potential! I know Henry would frown at the thought, but I couldn't help recalling the pomp around your appointment to the Hastings. You were the second in command, weren't you? The military always did ceremony very well. God, that was a lifetime ago.
Jason says to send his best. I'm so proud of him! "Aerospace Engineer." I don't pretend to understand what he does, but the gleam in his eyes when he is trying to explain his latest designs to me say that he has found his place in this universe. He wanted you to be there, at his ceremony, but I know duty calls. He sees you as a heroic figure off fighting grand battles in space. I hope you can make it for the holidays this year. Henry asked just the other day. I know you don't see eye to eye on much but he respects you. He respects what you do. And you know Jason is over the moon when you can take the time to review his ship designs.
Let me know about the holidays and David, please be careful.

Love,
Cynthia

With that in mind I'm glad the cut dialogue wasn't added back in for the EC, as it would have created a massive retcon of Anderson's background. The extended dialogue during Anderson's death scene could only have worked if Keith David had been brought back in to redo those lines, except with Anderson mentioning that he had a family in the past, and expressing regret that his military career got in the way.

Good to know I can't ask questions and be taken seriously, I'm automatically dismissed as a troll

You are being dismissed as a troll because it was a loaded question.

The question came bundled with negative assumptions, and an agenda by the person posting it.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 septembre 2012 - 02:01 .

[lillitheris]

Steelcan wrote...

Good to know I can't ask questions and be taken seriously, I'm automatically dismissed as a troll

I answered your question. Seriously. You didn’t answer mine.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Han Shot First wrote...

On Anderson's cut dialogue from ME3...

I think the original Anderson dialogue was cut because Anderson will tell Shepard he never had a family in the cut dialogue, which is incorrect. In the books it is mentioned that Anderson had been married at one point, but military life finally took its toll and his wife left him. In Lair of the Shadow Broker it is heavily implied that Anderson had a son with that ex wife.

From LotSB:

Intercept 04:23//#12947 - DA - 325
Sender: Cynthia Barris, Atlanta, Earth

David,
Henry and I went to Jason's graduation ceremony in San Francisco today. Such a beautiful occasion! All those gowns and bright spirits. So much potential! I know Henry would frown at the thought, but I couldn't help recalling the pomp around your appointment to the Hastings. You were the second in command, weren't you? The military always did ceremony very well. God, that was a lifetime ago.
Jason says to send his best. I'm so proud of him! "Aerospace Engineer." I don't pretend to understand what he does, but the gleam in his eyes when he is trying to explain his latest designs to me say that he has found his place in this universe. He wanted you to be there, at his ceremony, but I know duty calls. He sees you as a heroic figure off fighting grand battles in space. I hope you can make it for the holidays this year. Henry asked just the other day. I know you don't see eye to eye on much but he respects you. He respects what you do. And you know Jason is over the moon when you can take the time to review his ship designs.
Let me know about the holidays and David, please be careful.

Love,
Cynthia

With that in mind I'm glad the cut dialogue wasn't added back in for the EC, as it would have created a massive retcon of Anderson's background. The extended dialogue during Anderson's death scene could only have worked if Keith David had been brought back in to redo those lines, except with Anderson mentioning that he had a family in the past, and expressing regret that his military career got in the way.

I heard from people that a certain part of the first book there is a lawyer who states that it is a good thing he had no children with his wife or else the divorce would have been alot more expensive.

Regardless of that, if what you are saying is true, I still feel they could have added it. Just change it to fit the facts as you said. The emotional content of the scene would remain intact.

[Arcataye]

Lizardviking wrote...

I heard from people that a certain part of the first book there is a lawyer who states that it is a good thing he had no children with his wife or else the divorce would have been alot more expensive.

Yes.

"You'll also see a copy of my fee. I know this isn't much consolation right now, but just be glad you two didn't have any children. It could have been a lot worse-and a lot more expensive. When custody becomes an issue the proceedings rarely go this smoothly."

Too bad it didn't work out with Kahlee. I imagine people have no idea who the lady in the Academy is if they haven't read the books.

Modifié par Arcataye, 05 septembre 2012 - 02:18 .

[Han Shot First]

Lizardviking wrote...

I heard from people that a certain part of the first book there is a lawyer who states that it is a good thing he had no children with his wife or else the divorce would have been alot more expensive.

Regardless of that, if what you are saying is true, I still feel they could have added it. Just change it to fit the facts as you said. The emotional content of the scene would remain intact.

You might be right.

I've only read the book once right after it was first released, and can only remember that it stated that Anderson was divorced. Any deatils beyond that are a little hazy, and I'd have to reread it.

If that was the case, I suppose LotSB was a bit of a retcon. While it isn't stated outright that Jason is Anderson's son, I can't imagine him idolozing Anderson if he was Henry's son. I also can't imagine Henry wanting Anderson around if Jason wasn't Anderson's son.

EDIT:

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 septembre 2012 - 02:13 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Han Shot First wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

I heard from people that a certain part of the first book there is a lawyer who states that it is a good thing he had no children with his wife or else the divorce would have been alot more expensive.

Regardless of that, if what you are saying is true, I still feel they could have added it. Just change it to fit the facts as you said. The emotional content of the scene would remain intact.

You might be right.

I've only read the book once right after it was first released, and can only remember that it stated that Anderson was divorced. Any deatils beyond that are a little hazy, and I've had to reread it.

If that was the case, I suppose LotSB was a bit of a retcon. While it isn't stated outright that Jason is Anderson's son, I can't imagine him idolozing Anderson if he was Henry's son. I also can't imagine Henry wanting Anderson around if Jason wasn't Anderson's son.

EDIT:

yeah, the whole thing does not make a whole lot of sense. I chalk it up as another hiccup on the writers part like they did with Samara, where we hear her state that she only know of 3 ardat-yakshi despite the fact that they have special prisons build for AY (who would built such things if there were only 3 of them?).

[Zazzerka]

[quote]frudi wrote...
Personally I don't find anything wrong with the explanation they've given us, that the scene was simply deemed too long.
[/quote]
I tend to disagree with you here.. I would've liked a handshake/pat on the back or a bit more dialogue. I like the cut stuff about how Shepard would be a great father/mother too, but then, I tend to be biased in that regard because baaabieeeeeeeeesssss..
[quote]But with Starbrat and its horrors still to come, I think leaving that
dialogue in would only worsen the disparity between the feelings felt
during that scene and those later at the actual ending.[/quote]
I do agree with this though. It'd make me expect more touching scenes with squaddies only to be let down.. more so.[/quote]

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 05 septembre 2012 - 02:27 .

[mumba]

Has anybody else heard any rumours about Project X DLC?