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[rubynorman]

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its
fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets
the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

I start a new playthrough in ME3, and Liara is very cold toward my Shepard. I don't understand about your argument about "throwing herself at Shepard"

I import my canon Shepard who is loyal to Liara in 3 games, and she still said "you've been a good friend" "just friend". I don't understand your argument about "throwing herself at Shepard" again.

In ME2 LotSB I didn't romance anyone, and she still denied the romance until the paragon interrupt.

Yeah, and we got the fade to black romance scene in ME2. But I'm content with what we have and hope the others get what they want too. 
Edit: typo

Modifié par rubynorman, 05 septembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[Zazzerka]

Does someone feel like giving me a quick rundown of this 'Project X' DLC? I don't follow the ME news that much. Or at all.

rubynorman wrote...
I import my canon Shepard who is loyal to Liara in 3 games, and she still said "you've been a good friend" "just friend". I don't understand your argument about "throwing herself at Shepard" again.

Mmm, reminds me of a part when you meet up with Liara on the Citadel and she mentions that she wishes she could do it more often, just as friends. Easily resolved, but still, I would've thought it was pretty obvious that Shepard wanted more than that. Y'know, with the sex and all.

Though it's probably just there to give people an out (for whatever reason) and I'm complaining too much.

[mumba]

GT Zazzerka wrote...
Does someone feel like giving me a quick rundown of this 'Project X' DLC? I don't follow the ME news that much. Or at all.

A rumour was spread regarding a post-ending DLC. But that's all iv'e heard.

[Han Shot First]

frudi wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

On Anderson's cut dialogue from ME3...

I think the original Anderson dialogue was cut because Anderson will tell Shepard he never had a family in the cut dialogue, which is incorrect. In the books it is mentioned that Anderson had been married at one point, but military life finally took its toll and his wife left him. In Lair of the Shadow Broker it is heavily implied that Anderson had a son with that ex wife.

Bioware aren't exactly shy about introducing contradictions into canon, so I doubt that was the reason the dialogue got cut, at least not one of the main ones. Personally I don't find anything wrong with the explanation they've given us, that the scene was simply deemed too long.

Perhaps, but either way I'm glad that dialogue was cut.

If Anderson having a family is now the canon after LotSB, I'd want ME3 to be consistent with that.

Getting back to Liara, here is some Eden Prime dialogue of hers from the script that didn't make it into the game:

Garrus: Hey Liara, aren't you going to say something about these ruins? You used to be an archaeologist.


Liara: Aren't you going to try to arrest the Cerberus troops? You used to be a C-Sec officer.


Garrus: Touche.

Same scene except with EDI...

EDI: Did you study ruins like these during your time as an archaeologist, Dr. T'Soni?


Liara: No, I usually studied the earlier periods. These are Seventh Dynasty.


EDI: I believe you are mistaken. The pattern of these columns suggests the Fifth Dynasty.


Liara: Actual Fifth Dynasty columns would contain petroglyphs inlaid with decorative Element Zero flecks.


EDI: Of course. I apologize.


Liara: No, no, it's a common mistake.

Same scene with another unidentified squadmate. Ashley perhaps?

Squadmate: Hey, Liara, you were an archaeologist. Can you tell us anything about these ruins?


Liara: Early Seventh Dynasty, built by the Sun Sect but financed at least partially by the Imperial Regent.


Squadmate: That, uh, doesn't really tell us anything useful.


Liara: That's why I didn't bring it up.

I really wish those dialogue exhanges had made it into the game. Besides being a glimpse at Liara's expertise (and sense of humor), it also establishes that the Protheans were ruled by an Emperor.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 septembre 2012 - 03:03 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Mumba1511 wrote...

Has anybody else heard any rumours about Project X DLC?

Aside from the IT movie, no.

I doubt this "Project X" is nothing more than a false rumor created by desperate IT fans.

[lillitheris]

Arcataye wrote...

Too bad it didn't work out with Kahlee. I imagine people have no idea who the lady in the Academy is if they haven't read the books.

It’s not so much that it didn’t work out, it’s that they never really tried. Plus, there’s always fanfic! Mine and others’…

[Zazzerka]

Garrus: Hey Liara, aren't you going to say something about these ruins? You used to be an archaeologist.


Liara: Aren't you going to try to arrest the Cerberus troops? You used to be a C-Sec officer.


Garrus: Touche.

Hope he had some medi-gel for that burn.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

frudi wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

Has anybody else heard any rumours about Project X DLC?

Aside from the IT movie, no.

I doubt this "Project X" is nothing more than a false rumor created by desperate IT fans.

I think you meant 'anything more' instead of 'nothing more'?

Yeah, I'll just show my grammar-n*zi ass out...

Whoops! Yeah, that was what I meant.

But really. This whole "Project X" thing is goddamn stupid.

[CrimsonN7]

Steelcan wrote...

Just wondering do Liara fans think its
fair that she was basically thrown at Shepard in ME3, and how she gets
the best romance scene, or A romance scene in some cases

Ugh, seriously I just pop back into the thread and this is waiting for me<_<

RubyNorman wrote...
I start a new playthrough in ME3, and Liara is very cold toward my Shepard. I don't understand about your argument about "throwing herself at Shepard"

I import my canon Shepard who is loyal to Liara in 3 games, and she still said "you've been a good friend" "just friend". I don't understand your argument about "throwing herself at Shepard" again.

In ME2 LotSB I didn't romance anyone, and she still denied the romance until the paragon interrupt.

Yeah, and we got the fade to black romance scene in ME2. But I'm content with what we have and hope the others get what they want too. 

Yeah what Ruby said and I'll add I have an alternative Broshep run and let me think am yeah can't remember her throwing herself at him, in ME1 sure the option is there along with Ashley but I turned them both down, I romanced Jack in ME2. True the ME2 romances were badly handled in ME3, Ashley again another favourite character of mine was horribly treated in ME3 compared to the other VS but why direct the anger towards us, folk whose favs were unfairly shafted in ME3 should be mad at the devs not us.

And for my Shep who romanced her in ME2/3 it's actually Shepard who is throwing herself at Liara, you have to re-establish the romance, you initiate the kiss, you tell her at least a few times in ME3 that you want to be more than friends, we got alot of friendzoning treatment in ME3 with Liara.

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 05 septembre 2012 - 04:10 .

[Han Shot First]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Garrus: Hey Liara, aren't you going to say something about these ruins? You used to be an archaeologist.


Liara: Aren't you going to try to arrest the Cerberus troops? You used to be a C-Sec officer.


Garrus: Touche.

Hope he had some medi-gel for that burn.

For being one of the more calm and collected squadmates Liara does drop an epic burn from time to time. My favorite is during the Thessia mission, if Javik is brought along. While Shepard is running around in the Temple  trying to locate all the points to activate the Prothean V.I., Javik and Liara will have some brief dialogue exchanges, with most of it consisting of Javik pointing out in trollish fashion that the Asari owe most of their technological advancements to the Protheans. Eventually Liara snaps, and comes back at Javik with something like, "Yes, the Protheans used to be the most technologically advanced civilization in the galaxy. And how well did that work out for your species?"



Javik's reply is pure gold as well.

"So, the Asari does have teeth? Good, we will need that."


(the above dialogue might not be exact)

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 septembre 2012 - 03:41 .

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I've always loved the dialogue on Sur'Kesh if Kirrahe is dead, where a salarian says "My people created secrecy!" and Liara replies "And my people created means to get past that secrecy."


I love those moments where she pulls Shadow Broker authority.

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 05 septembre 2012 - 03:53 .

[CrimsonN7]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Dragon_Claw wrote...
Don´t worry about that. There is a mature fanfic somewhere, that has Jane & Liara spend about 12 pages, on how to operate a Salarian sex toy. Try starting with that one...  

Hmm, I may have to wait until everyone here has gone to bed before I try reading that.

That sounds like one of Rae's pieces, her work is quite adult it's not for everyone but I love her stuff. You should look into a few pieces, I started reading fanfiction to cope with that train-wreck of an ending and I've never looked back since. 

[Zazzerka]

If she'd thrown a "..primitive." at Javik during that scene, I think I'd have pissed myself.

Also I've just realised how awesome your signature is Han, that's a really amazing quote.
I've always wanted to be an astronaut.. just imagine the perspective that would give you.

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 05 septembre 2012 - 03:53 .

[Dragon_Claw]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Dragon_Claw wrote...
Don´t worry about that. There is a mature fanfic somewhere, that has Jane & Liara spend about 12 pages, on how to operate a Salarian sex toy. Try starting with that one...  

Hmm, I may have to wait until everyone here has gone to bed before I try reading that.

That sounds like one of Rae's pieces, her work is quite adult it's not for everyone but I love her stuff. You should look into a few pieces, I started reading fanfiction to cope with that train-wreck of an ending and I've never looked back since. 

Have you read Rae´s "Wild Card"?  

[CrimsonN7]

@ Dragon I'm a fan of all Rae's pieces, I love her Aria/Tevos stories too. She's the best at writing realistic f/f romance scenes and they aren't vulgar and badly written like some I've come across. Her scenes between Shep and Liara are quite tender and erotic at the same time;)

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 05 septembre 2012 - 04:05 .

[Zazzerka]

CrimsonN7 wrote...
I started reading fanfiction to cope with that train-wreck of an ending and I've never looked back since. 

Hmm, life story incoming, sorry.
Prepare yourselves.

Thats kind of the same reason I'm here. I'd finished ME3 once (unless you count multiple reloads to check the endings), pre-EC with Ashley as LI. Felt nothing really, ending was crap and I just didn't worry about it. I even felt weird telling Ashley I loved her, because I was like, "Do I?" Then I stopped playing for a while. Then a little while ago I went back to ME1 and romanced Liara, which I'd amazingly never done before, and I fell head over heels in love. So yeah, I wasn't really thinking about the ending while playing through ME1+2 when the EC came out and I thought, "Oh great, this will really clear things up!"
So I built up really unrealistic expectations about the epilogue, and when I finally got there, I picked my ending, watched the few extra scenes and promptly burst into tears. It was 4:30AM, I'd been playing for about 12 hours, and I was just.. wrecked.
I have a few reasons for disliking the endings, but the greatest one was the lack of closure with Liara. I missed a video game character, and although I was ashamed about it, I couldn't stop tearing up. Not very manly.
I'm very easily manipulated by slow motion montages and sad piano melodies, so the ending was like kryptonite for me, and I became a mess.
It also wrecked any desire I had to play through the series again, as it'd be like opening old wounds.
So yeah, I spent a few days trying to headcanon the absolute crap out of my ending, but then I came here, met all of you fine people and am on my way back to not being a quivering sack of misery, and I thank you all.
I don't think I'll be able to ever pick any ending except for High-EMS destroy, but it was my favourite anyway, so no harm done there.

Sorry for being a massive wuss, I expect a bit of flaming, but I'm anonymous on the internet and it feels good to get this off my chest. It isn't something I'm proud of, but it is how I feel unfortunately.

So yeah, thats my story. Pathetic, yes, but hey, internet anonymity right? I may as well tell the truth.
I could get laughed off of the forums, but I needed to let it out.
Way to set me off, CrimsonN7.



Phew. Anyway, moving on?

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 05 septembre 2012 - 04:22 .

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

^I think almost every male in this thread can agree we all lost a little bit of our manliness the day we got to the ending, lol.

*Eats cereal bowl full of nails.*

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 05 septembre 2012 - 04:39 .

[CrimsonN7]

@GT What you're feeling the majority here can relate, that ending was soul crushingly disappointing before the EC and after the EC what they added helped somewhat. I joined the BSN because I wanted to know how fellow fans felt, being here helped a great deal, it introduced me to some fantastic artists and writers and also some really nice folk. I retreated into fanficiton to get over that ending and reading how others envisioned Shep's life post- Reaper War has given me hours of pleasure and closure to an extent so thank god for the fellow fans, being here actually helped me replay the games again.

I'm also a die hard tube shooter too for many reasons!


by bolina @ tumblr

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 05 septembre 2012 - 04:49 .

[mumba]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

^I think almost every male in this thread can agree we all lost a little bit of our manliness the day we got to the ending, lol.

*Eats cereal bowl full of nails.*

Lost my manliness as soon as Mordin died. Never before have I shed as many tears. 
Edit: And by the time I got to Legion's death. I had shed enough tears to hydrate Africa for a day.

Modifié par Mumba1511, 05 septembre 2012 - 05:04 .

[Zazzerka]

I appreciate the understanding, guys. It's good to not be alone.

SergeantSnookie wrote...
*Eats cereal bowl full of nails.*

I take my nails with the puréed adrenal glands of Great White sharks. It's the only thing that'll compensate.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Yeah, Mordin's death gutted me as well. He was my favorite character.

EDIT: Bah! Top! Can't get a picture right now, someone cover for me!

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 05 septembre 2012 - 05:09 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Yeah, Mordin's death gutted me as well. He was my favorite character.

EDIT: Bah! Top! Can't get a picture right now, someone cover for me!

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing
You called?