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GT Zazzerka wrote...

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I want him to read me a story book sometime. :3

More so than Morgan Freeman?
I'm glad that is a decision I don't have to make.


Morgan Freeman and Liam Neeson reading an audiobook, with Ali Hillis doing the lines for female characters so the former two don't have to do the awkward female voice male audiobook narrators always do.

The world would explode due to the collective eargasms of the entire population.

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

And to add to that, John dying did complete John's goal throughout the whole game; to keep his family safe. With him dead, the government would leave his wife and son alone. It was sad, but also fulfilling, and like you and me said, the story really couldn't have ended any other way without going out of Marston's character. It's some pretty deep stuff when you dig into it.

Shepard's just felt...I don't know, random, I guess. I suppose I was expecting it though, BioWare's foreshadowing isn't exactly subtle. Another thing RDR did better...

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Random is a great way to put it. If Shep had gone out fighting Harbinger a la Gandalf and the Balrog, with Liara and Garrus (in my fantasies) backing her until the bitter end (or hell, the entire squad even), I would have been so much more at peace with it. The fact that they get split up, have nothing to do with the final events, and that they have no idea what really happened just gets under my skin.

As silly as it seems, I put myself in Liara's place getting extracted at the beam, and I think screw that, I would drag my ass along whether I was dying or not. It all just makes it hard to stomach all the "whatever happens" and "you're not alone" and "in it 'til the end" sentiment when you know it's completely the opposite.

The one thing keeping me from doing a tableflip was that I got to see Liara (and the rest, mostly) alive at the end. 

Great gif BTW, haven't seen that one. :D

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Humm..Has Ali Hillis ever done a singing spot? We have talked about Liara, and what instrument she might play, but then I forgot to think about one of the most important parts of some bands...the singer. I think Liara's voice could lend itself to singing. Most of us admire her voice and its qualities anyway. Why not in singing , possibly?

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Good call, screwball8, I think you've pretty much nailed it.
I couldn't let the love of my life go off to die on their own. I'd perform a massive flying leap off of the Normandy and directly onto Shepard's head.

But in my mind, Liara reluctantly leaves anyway because she's protecting their baby, and as much as it hurts, she needs to make sure that the child gets to grow up.
It makes the evac scene a lot less ridiculous, to me.

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Would it have been more sad and better if Shepard died like Mordin or fighting wave after wave of reaper forces till the end?

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

GT Zazzerka wrote...

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I want him to read me a story book sometime. :3

More so than Morgan Freeman?
I'm glad that is a decision I don't have to make.


Morgan Freeman and Liam Neeson reading an audiobook, with Ali Hillis doing the lines for female characters so the former two don't have to do the awkward female voice male audiobook narrators always do.

The world would explode due to the collective eargasms of the entire population.


was going to post something like this but i would rather just agree instead of be ninja'd.  and no i haven't seen the grey yet only major Neeson film i haven't seen.  I was kind of immobile during the time it was out in theaters *kicks self in bum*  oh well thats what pirate.... i...i mean nothing :whistle:

as for Liara singing I think she would be a good singer and I would love to hear Ali singing in the Liara voice a song like "Linger"  what can i say i love the cranberries


oh and me and Dolores were born on the same day just different years

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screwball8 wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

And to add to that, John dying did complete John's goal throughout the whole game; to keep his family safe. With him dead, the government would leave his wife and son alone. It was sad, but also fulfilling, and like you and me said, the story really couldn't have ended any other way without going out of Marston's character. It's some pretty deep stuff when you dig into it.

Shepard's just felt...I don't know, random, I guess. I suppose I was expecting it though, BioWare's foreshadowing isn't exactly subtle. Another thing RDR did better...
 


Random is a great way to put it. If Shep had gone out fighting Harbinger a la Gandalf and the Balrog, with Liara and Garrus (in my fantasies) backing her until the bitter end (or hell, the entire squad even), I would have been so much more at peace with it. The fact that they get split up, have nothing to do with the final events, and that they have no idea what really happened just gets under my skin.

As silly as it seems, I put myself in Liara's place getting extracted at the beam, and I think screw that, I would drag my ass along whether I was dying or not. It all just makes it hard to stomach all the "whatever happens" and "you're not alone" and "in it 'til the end" sentiment when you know it's completely the opposite.

The one thing keeping me from doing a tableflip was that I got to see Liara (and the rest, mostly) alive at the end. 

Great gif BTW, haven't seen that one. :D


Yeah, I remember one of the things that bugged me most about the vanillla ending was that Liara actually seemed pretty happy when walking off the Normandy, despite the fact that she's stranded far away from Shepard. I actually found the fact that even if Shepard survived, him/her and Liara would be separated more heartbreaking than the ending itself; honestly, that would be a fate worse than death for me. To be alive, but never be able to see anybody you really care about again...

At least the EC fixed the ending in that regard.

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They're somewhere in the local cluster, so it would only take a few weeks/months to get the Normandy running again and get back to Earth.

Tell me otherwise, and I'll internet-smack you. ^_^

Of course in a 'Shepard Dies' ending this scenario would suck harder than a nuclear vacuum, but I'm not ready for those, yet.

EDIT: Does the Normandy take off in the pre-EC and post-EC ending?
Haven't done pre-EC in over 6 months, so I can't remember.

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GT Zazzerka wrote...

@SegeantSnookie
They're somewhere in the local cluster, so it would only take a few weeks/months to get the Normandy running again and get back to Earth.

Tell me otherwise, and I'll internet-smack you. ^_^

Of course in a 'Shepard Dies' ending this scenario would suck harder than a nuclear vacuum, but I'm not ready for those, yet.

EDIT: Does the Normandy take off in the pre-EC and post-EC ending?
Have done pre-EC is over 6 months, so I can't remember.


I always imagined they were on Naboo, but okay. ^_^

And no, the Normandy didn't take off pre-EC. It just ended abruptly with Liara and Joker looking into the distance.

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GT Zazzerka wrote...

@SegeantSnookie
They're somewhere in the local cluster, so it would only take a few weeks/months to get the Normandy running again and get back to Earth.

Tell me otherwise, and I'll internet-smack you. ^_^

Of course in a 'Shepard Dies' ending this scenario would suck harder than a nuclear vacuum, but I'm not ready for those, yet.

EDIT: Does the Normandy take off in the pre-EC and post-EC ending?
Haven't done pre-EC is over 6 months, so I can't remember.


Post EC ending.

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GT Zazzerka wrote...

@SegeantSnookie
They're somewhere in the local cluster, so it would only take a few weeks/months to get the Normandy running again and get back to Earth.

Tell me otherwise, and I'll internet-smack you. ^_^

Of course in a 'Shepard Dies' ending this scenario would suck harder than a nuclear vacuum, but I'm not ready for those, yet.

EDIT: Does the Normandy take off in the pre-EC and post-EC ending?
Haven't done pre-EC is over 6 months, so I can't remember.


just the post EC atleast if you do destroy i can't remember the others to clearly.   

and with that i will say good night to you all

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Thanks guys. Night, moreeman06.
Fair enough then, I can definitely see how that would rustle some jimmies.

Maybe the EC doesn't deserve all the hate it gets.

SergeantSnookie wrote...

EDIT: Also, I just discovered this a little while ago, but did you know if you have low EMS you get a closing shot of the crew trying to  rebuild the Normandy rather than it leaving the planet? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

Thats interesting.. something for Youtube though, not worth the other low-EMS implications.
If anything, I'd say that implies a 'doomed' scenario. They aren't going to fix the Normandy, there.

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 Also, I just realized this, but apparently if you have low EMS you get a closing shot of the crew rebuilding the Normandy rather than it leaving the planet...

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Seriously, about what planet they landed on.

I always thought it was the planet mentioned in one of the Cerberus news cycles. One of the planets around the Alpha Centauri system, because it is one of the closests system to the sol system. http://www.cerberusd...=alpha-centauri

Within a few years FTL speed at tops.

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That's the way I like to think of it, Ajosraa. I don't think the Normandy is ever seen going through a relay, right?

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Found the video for the low EMS ending: www.youtube.com/watch

Ajosraa wrote...

Seriously, about what planet they landed on.

I always thought it was the planet mentioned in one of the Cerberus news cycles. One of the planets around the Alpha Centauri system, because it is one of the closets system to the sol system. http://www.cerberusd...=alpha-centauri

Within a few years FTL speed at tops.


I always thought the planet looked remarkably similar to Zorya in Zaeed's loyalty mission.

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@SergeantSnookie
After watching that, I have a bit more hope for that scenario. I was expecting to see the crew sitting around a bunch of tools and broken tech, looking miserable and utterly defeated.

Still, not an ending I'm going to rush out and get anytime soon.

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

I always thought the planet looked remarkably similar to Zorya in Zaeed's loyalty mission.


I still think it looks like Aiea from Jacob's loyalty mission.

Hilarity ensues.

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GT Zazzerka wrote...

@SegeantSnookie
They're somewhere in the local cluster, so it would only take a few weeks/months to get the Normandy running again and get back to Earth.

Tell me otherwise, and I'll internet-smack you. ^_^

Of course in a 'Shepard Dies' ending this scenario would suck harder than a nuclear vacuum, but I'm not ready for those, yet.

EDIT: Does the Normandy take off in the pre-EC and post-EC ending?
Have done pre-EC is over 6 months, so I can't remember.


SergeantSnookie wrote...

I always imagined they were on Naboo, but okay. ^_^

And no, the Normandy didn't take off pre-EC. It just ended abruptly with Liara and Joker looking into the distance.


OMG if Bioware decides to do a post-ending Jar Jar DLC I'm going to crap my pants. And not in a good way.

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I wasnt aware there was a good way to crap ones pants.

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I wasnt aware there was a good way to crap ones pants.


and i was just about to say the same exact thing..

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doozer12 wrote...

I wasnt aware there was a good way to crap ones pants.


Exactly what I was about to say. :lol:

EDIT: Ajosraa, you ninja. :ph34r:

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Yeah, I remember one of the things that bugged me most about the vanillla ending was that Liara actually seemed pretty happy when walking off the Normandy, despite the fact that she's stranded far away from Shepard. I actually found the fact that even if Shepard survived, him/her and Liara would be separated more heartbreaking than the ending itself; honestly, that would be a fate worse than death for me. To be alive, but never be able to see anybody you really care about again...

At least the EC fixed the ending in that regard.

Totally agree, that whole blissfully happy on planet Lost Paradise scene was a complete WTF moment for me. Especially Shepard's LI (and Liara in particular I think) would not have just shrugged off their lover's death, not even in the face of victory over Reapers (though with them ending up on some goddess-forsaken planet, how do they even know the war is over?).
But I never really believed the crew would be stuck on that planet forever. Always figured they were somewhere nearby, well within FTL range.

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Also, I just realized this, but apparently if you have low EMS you get a closing shot of the crew rebuilding the Normandy rather than it leaving the planet...

That's a mid-EMS scene, with low EMS no-one even gets off the Normandy. Also, in low EMS the shots of relays blowing up and the Normandy getting hit by the wave are actually the ones used in the original ending, implying much worse damage to both relays and the ship than in the new mid/high EMS shots (regardless what Bioware claim, that's a retcon in my book).

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Seriously, about what planet they landed on.

I always thought it was the planet mentioned in one of the Cerberus news cycles. One of the planets around the Alpha Centauri system, because it is one of the closests system to the sol system. http://www.cerberusd...=alpha-centauri

Within a few years FTL speed at tops.

That's the planet I have them end up on. It's only a little over 4 light years from Earth, basically just a few hours of FTL away. Even if the Normandy is no longer space-worthy, they'll soon get found by some search&rescue ship(s); even if no-one knows where the Normandy wound up, sending ships to the nearest systems to look for stragglers from the battle seems a sensible course of action.

The next nearest known habitable planet is Benning in the Arcturus cluster, about 3 days away, or less than a single day if they first jumped through the Charon relay. Unlikely, but not completely implausible.


edit: off-topic wall-of-text redemption blue:
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moreeman06 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

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Has anybody here cried over a movie or videogame and have you cried in Mass Effect? :devil:


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I actually wasn't too broken up about Shepard dying; I was honestly more sad for Liara when he/she died tbh.



It would've been nice to see a blue-baby at the end, though. I mean, I feel like such a troll in the LOTsB cabin scene now.


Wait Yuqi+blue baby does this mean.... Yuqi you have a soul under that rough renegade exterior:o:P


nope ;D I  just wanted to see it , so I could imagine the baby accidently falling into lava! Purple bones FTW!!

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frudi wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Yeah, I remember one of the things that bugged me most about the vanillla ending was that Liara actually seemed pretty happy when walking off the Normandy, despite the fact that she's stranded far away from Shepard. I actually found the fact that even if Shepard survived, him/her and Liara would be separated more heartbreaking than the ending itself; honestly, that would be a fate worse than death for me. To be alive, but never be able to see anybody you really care about again...

At least the EC fixed the ending in that regard.

Totally agree, that whole blissfully happy on planet Lost Paradise scene was a complete WTF moment for me. Especially Shepard's LI (and Liara in particular I think) would not have just shrugged off their lover's death, not even in the face of victory over Reapers (though with them ending up on some goddess-forsaken planet, how do they even know the war is over?).
But I never really believed the crew would be stuck on that planet forever. Always figured they were somewhere nearby, well within FTL range.


Yeah, I assumed they'd get off eventually too, but not for a while. I would be more worried about them running out of food; when their rations ran out, the local fauna and flora could be toxic for all we know.

Although how horribly sad would that be if everyone died of old age before they could get off the planet and Liara was all alone...:crying:

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