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[Ghost]

Everyone attack the Mirimancers now!

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Everyone attack the Mirimancers now!

I think we prefer to stay out of the mancer wars for the most part.

mavqt wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

mavqt wrote...

@Snookie.

My hero![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]

Also, on another note, am I the only one who found this to be the single most terrifying moment in ME3? I'm replaying the game at the moment, and I just got to that point...

Yes and no.

It was before the EC. It got replaced by the evac scene. One of the reasons being that I thought my game bugged out and Liara was about to die.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie] Safe to say I let out a long held breath when she didn't


Also just watched this, it made me giggle.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Yeah, I was the same way when I first got to the EC evac scene. It looked pretty much identical to the deleted scene at first.

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:32 .

[lillitheris]

Go away, ghost.

Modifié par lillitheris, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:35 .

[Ghost]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Everyone attack the Mirimancers now!

I think we prefer to stay out of the mancer wars for the most part.

There is no war. Only the harvest.

[Akernis]

SergeantSnookie wrote...
When I first got to that point, I read some vague rumors that Liara got killed on Thessia from the leaked script (Which, was actually a Virmire choice originally.) but I didn't know that, so I was kind of on edge throughout the entire mission, and that part in the gif scared me. I thought he was going to kill her for a second...

As was I, though I had not heard any rumours. Afterwards relief that Liara was alright was vaying with hate for Kai Leng and Cerberus in general. 

Thessia might have been nothing but a pale shadow of what it could have been and the Shepard defeat left much to be desired, but it did manage to succeed in making me more angry (in-game from my character's PoV) than any game or movie has ever made me before.

Modifié par Akernis, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:35 .

[lillitheris]

^ I was only angry OOC.

[Akernis]

lillitheris wrote...

^ I was only angry OOC.

Fair enough, every subsequent playthrough have had me dislike that scene, and the Thessia part in general, more and more to the point where I now think it is my least favourite part after the ending, but the first time I was really in-chracater about what had happened and my Shepard was pissed to say the least.

[shepard1038]

Arcataye wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

Did you choose Control or Synthesis or destroy? Because in destroy Shepard survives. Why should i expect Shepard to die when i made every perfect decision and did all the side missions and quest and arrived with 7,000 war assets?

Oh c'mon, are you sure Shepard survived instead of just taking her very last gasp of air? The only reason I chose Destroy is because that's what I had worked towards for the whole series. For Control I have some fun headcanon, but going with what the game shows us - no thanks.

You don't have to expect Shepard to die, it was just my gut feeling that it would happen. War assets as useless numbers, they should've done that thing better.
Anyways, when I started the game I just somehow knew Shepard would die in the end, so her death didn't matter that much compared to everything else.

Yes. It is called Shepard alive in the files in PC. The Devs said that Shepard survives. You just have to headcannon after the breath scene. But if i have a larger and more prepared force the chances of surviving are better.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I was pretty disappointed with Thessia as well, but I'm glad they got rid of the Virmire scenario in it. I'm all for more choices like that, but the way it was described in the leaked script just hit me as incredibly stupid. Especially seeing as, if I remember correctly, the VS was just pointing a gun at you and letting Kai Leng egg him/her on just a minute ago, would it really make sense to save them over Liara?

[shepard1038]

 I thought this part was done well: www.youtube.com/watch

[screwball8]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

[opens GIF, sees Thessia cutscene]

Yes?

When I first got to that point, I read some vague rumors that Liara got killed on Thessia from the leaked script (Which, was actually a Virmire choice originally.) but I didn't know that, so I was kind of on edge throughout the entire mission, and that part in the gif scared me. I thought he was going to kill her for a second...

IIRC, my first time I said, out loud, with no one else around, "OH HELL NO you just didn't." I was really nervous when he started to approach her that she was gonna get the Thane treatment. Looking back, I'm kinda surprised now that the writers didn't have them all just throw down their guns and dogpile onto Leng's sword.

[Akernis]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

I was pretty disappointed with Thessia as well, but I'm glad they got rid of the Virmire scenario in it. I'm all for more choices like that, but the way it was described in the leaked script just hit me as incredibly stupid. Especially seeing as, if I remember correctly, the VS was just pointing a gun at you and letting Kai Leng egg him/her on just a minute ago, would it really make sense to save them over Liara?

I would not appreciate a choice like that. I would save Liara every time regardless but what I would dislike most about that would be how she would feel it afterwards, survivor's guilt is not a pleasent thing. Though she might know what Shepard went through since she has already gone through that in her "I couldn't let you go", though arguably hers was an even more extreme case as Sheaprd already was dead.

Modifié par Akernis, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:55 .

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Akernis wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

I was pretty disappointed with Thessia as well, but I'm glad they got rid of the Virmire scenario in it. I'm all for more choices like that, but the way it was described in the leaked script just hit me as incredibly stupid. Especially seeing as, if I remember correctly, the VS was just pointing a gun at you and letting Kai Leng egg him/her on just a minute ago, would it really make sense to save them over Liara?

I would not appreciate a choice like that. I would save Liara every time regardless but what I would dislike most about that would be how she would feel it afterwards, survivor's guilt is not a pleasent thing. Though she might know what Shepard went through since she has already gone through that in her "I couldn't let you go", though arguably hers was an even more extreme case as Sheaprd already was dead.

Yeah, I guess it would add some drama to the story though. Although if they did do the Virmire choice there would pretty much need to be hug or something in the post-Thessia scene. I mean seriously. 

They could've done something worse though, I guess, like taking your two most talked to/used squadmates and making you choose between them. That would just be pure evil...

[Arcataye]

shepard1038 wrote...

Yes. It is called Shepard alive in the files in PC. The Devs said that Shepard survives. You just have to headcannon after the breath scene. But if i have a larger and more prepared force the chances of surviving are better.

So, some people got the feeling that Shepard would die. Does that mean those people want Shepard to die? No.
Headcanon, of course. I guess almost everyone has their own headcanon for this game and it's quite clear why.
Larger and more prepared fleet makes the breath scene have a higher chance of Shepard surviving?
Could you please be more clear on what's your point so we can (not) continue this pointless topic tomorrow, good night.

This pictures one of my many headcanons very nicely:

Modifié par Arcataye, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:04 .

[Akernis]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Yeah, I guess it would add some drama to the story though. Although if they did do the Virmire choice there would pretty much need to be hug or something in the post-Thessia scene. I mean seriously. 

They could've done something worse though, I guess, like taking your two most talked to/used squadmates and making you choose between them. That would just be pure evil...

Drama is all well and good, and in limited and well-thought-out situations it can work wonders but I prefer to at least be able to achieve happy outcomes.

I remember back during the speculations before ME3 came out (and before I found this thread) that there was fan-talk about the LI death being mandatory no matter what, which is IMO the worst thing that could happen

Mordin and Legion's deaths worked really well but I don't like mandatory deaths, especially not of my LI.

Modifié par Akernis, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:13 .

[shepard1038]

@Arcataye

I never said that. I said that if you do everything well you have a higher probability of surviving. So i was confident because of that Shepard could survive. No a larger and more prepared force makes the probability of Shepard surviving as seen with the breath scene, you just have to headcannon the rest. I don't know why your taking this personal.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Akernis wrote...

Drama is all well and good, and in limited and well-thought-out situations it can work wonders but I prefer to at least be able to achieve happy outcomes.

I remember back during the speculations before ME3 came out (and before I found this thread) that there was fan-talk about the LI death being mandatory no matter what, which is IMO the worst thing that could happen

Mordin and Legion's deaths worked really well but I don't like mandatory deaths, especially not of my LI.

I don't think every choice should have a potentially happy outcome, but I agree with you for the most part. Being unable to avoid getting your LI killed off would be terrible. 

I'd still like a Virmire style choice, but it would have to be executed well and not just thrown in for the sake of having a Virmire choice, which is what the scene in the leaked script felt like to me. 

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:19 .

[Arcataye]

Oh hey, about Leviathan.
Should Leviathan pick Shepard's LI from her mind to use as the tool to speak with her? I mean, seeing Liara talk to you with that deep creepy voice but still knowing it's not her - that would have been something. I thought we'd see some familiar face used there but nope. Like Aristobulus' idea of the Liara nightmares, just some emotional impact.

shepard1038 wrote...

I don't know why your taking this personal.

You made it sound like having the feeling Shepard would die is criminal. Expecting something to happen doesn't mean wanting it to happen. I just knew it, somehow. Now please, I apologize for any misunderstanding, let's not continue this.

Modifié par Arcataye, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:30 .

[DOsquareZER]

Akernis wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Yeah, I guess it would add some drama to the story though. Although if they did do the Virmire choice there would pretty much need to be hug or something in the post-Thessia scene. I mean seriously. 

They could've done something worse though, I guess, like taking your two most talked to/used squadmates and making you choose between them. That would just be pure evil...

Drama is all well and good, and in limited and well-thought-out situations it can work wonders but I prefer to at least be able to achieve happy outcomes.

I remember back during the speculations before ME3 came out (and before I found this thread) that there was fan-talk about the LI death being mandatory no matter what, which is IMO the worst thing that could happen

Mordin and Legion's deaths worked really well but I don't like mandatory deaths, especially not of my LI.

Wasnt there also a "Liara Suicide" scenario in the leaked script too?  For after Thessia if you didn't go talk to her or some stupid reason?  Writers were desperately pushing for bleak, my god.  ... can't say I would've taken Liara for a take her own life kinda gal, glad they chopped that out of the series.  Much to the dismay of many messed in the head Liara haters.

Modifié par doozer12, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:23 .

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

 ^Okay, now that would just be too much...

[Akernis]

^ Agreed *shudder*

doozer12 wrote...
Wasnt there also a "Liara Suicide" scenario in the leaked script too?  For after Thessia if you didn't go talk to her?  Original writers were really pushing for bleak, my god.  ... wouldn't take Liara as a take her own life kinda gal, glad they chopped that out of the series. 

Me too, I am glad quite a lot of things were changed for the better, makes one wonder what could have happened if they were given more time to develop it, it might even have turned out really great. I still think that (a few things not-counted) the third game is my favourite, but damn it has so many problems that could have been splended. 

doozer12 wrote...
wouldn't take Liara as a take her own life kinda gal

Me neither, Shepard's death seemed to hit her even harder and that did not drive to that.

Modifié par Akernis, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:27 .

[MACharlie1]

doozer12 wrote...

Akernis wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Yeah, I guess it would add some drama to the story though. Although if they did do the Virmire choice there would pretty much need to be hug or something in the post-Thessia scene. I mean seriously. 

They could've done something worse though, I guess, like taking your two most talked to/used squadmates and making you choose between them. That would just be pure evil...

Drama is all well and good, and in limited and well-thought-out situations it can work wonders but I prefer to at least be able to achieve happy outcomes.

I remember back during the speculations before ME3 came out (and before I found this thread) that there was fan-talk about the LI death being mandatory no matter what, which is IMO the worst thing that could happen

Mordin and Legion's deaths worked really well but I don't like mandatory deaths, especially not of my LI.

Wasnt there also a "Liara Suicide" scenario in the leaked script too?  For after Thessia if you didn't go talk to her or some stupid reason?  Writers were desperately pushing for bleak, my god.  ... can't say I would've taken Liara for a take her own life kinda gal, glad they chopped that out of the series.  Much to the dismay of many messed in the head Liara haters.

There was a choose Liara or the Virmire Survivor at Thessia. And I think the VS was going to get the suicide sub-plot over Virmire. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Arcataye wrote...

Oh hey, about Leviathan.
Should Leviathan pick Shepard's LI from her mind to use as the tool to speak with her? I mean, seeing Liara talk to you with that deep creepy voice but still knowing it's not her - that would have been something. I thought we'd see some familiar face used there but nope. Like Aristobulus' idea of the Liara nightmares, just some emotional impact.

It would certainly add some emotional impact for the Leviathan conversation, but if they did do the 'Liara getting maimed by a Banshee in the final dream sequence' idea, I'm not sure I'd be able to watch that without having to look away from the screen...

EDIT: Wait, didn't Leviathan only take the form of the people he's controlled in the past though? Maybe those are the only people he can use to communicate with.

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:35 .

[shepard1038]

@Arcataye

Fair enough. Also i like your avatar.

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Modifié par shepard1038, 15 septembre 2012 - 12:01 .

[Yuqi]

The V.S suicide sub-plot is still there,sorta. I know with g-I mean Kaidan, he says: 'I can't lose you again' , and that hints at it.

@viking

I demand you post the plauqe on the wall picture: for making my eyes burn with previous-top-pic.(cause I cant find the plauqe pic)

Modifié par Yuqi, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:49 .