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So Rane, ol' buddy, ol' pal... that screenie... with diaphanous armor... is that a mod? And if so, would you be willing to share the download link with me? For the lulz, because I wanna see that in game :D

 

I'm not gonna make excuses, I'm a a pervert :P

 

Hey I hear ya', I'm the same when it comes to Liara. :P  But unfortunately I can't help with that pic. I tried to find the source, but it led to some dead links.  You might have better luck on 'Nexus Mods' or some similar type sites. Sorry mate.



I thought you was a console skreb?

 

Yeah I'm on console myself, that's why I'm so jelly of you PC scrubs.  :P



I go both ways :)

lol  :lol:

 

Anyway, how about this mod for Liara. 

 

Spoiler

 

There'd be a lot of 'mission failures' if my Liara wore that.  :wub:


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So Rane, ol' buddy, ol' pal... that screenie... with diaphanous armor... is that a mod? And if so, would you be willing to share the download link with me? For the lulz, because I wanna see that in game :D

I'm not gonna make excuses, I'm a a pervert :P

So I went out on a small trek across the internet, and i found this for you - http://www.nexusmods...ect3/mods/305/? - Hope the link works, I'm on mobile.

Also why you never say you play PC? Do you play online?

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So I went out on a small trek across the internet, and i found this for you - http://www.nexusmods...ect3/mods/305/? - Hope the link works, I'm on mobile.

Also why you never say you play PC? Do you play online?

 

Thanks for the link. Looks like I'll need to register, since it requires me to do so, since NSFW :)

 

If I said that, I lied to you, for which I apologize(funny, considering what I wrote to you in PM... :D). I didn't played on PC for the longest time, yes. But now I divide my time between PC and console about equally.

 

As for why I don't play online... well, lets just say the copy of ME3 on my PC isn't exactly legally acquired and hope I don't get hit with ban hammer because of it :)



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Anyway, how about this mod for Liara. ......

 

[snipsnip]]

 

There'd be a lot of 'mission failures' if my Liara wore that.  :wub:

 

 

Perfect to come home to after a stressy and tiring Monday!  Do you know if there's a version with Liara being a little more modest..purely for plausibility and head canon purposes?



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HI all,

 

Please forgive my woeful ignorance but could someone advise me how to upload my own pics/screenshots to the forum as I've tried looking on the FAQ/help section.  Do I go through Steam or Origin, or by other means?  Been on a new canon playthrough (Ash as VS this time, not had her as VS + Citadel DLC before) and I've just completed LotSB, so lots of lovely pics and a - modestly put - lovely bit of head canon.

 

Many thanks



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I use photobucket. Registration required, but it's free, easy to use, lots of space and just all around nice.

 

I'm sure others have different preferences, but this is my favourite host by a mile.



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Perfect to come home to after a stressy and tiring Monday!  Do you know if there's a version with Liara being a little more modest..purely for plausibility and head canon purposes?

 

Yeah there's a tonne of those type mods, I've even seen pics of a nude mod for Liara around somewhere. It sounds like you're on PC so you could try "Nexus Mods" for something to use. You'll have to register though I think.



HI all,

 

Please forgive my woeful ignorance but could someone advise me how to upload my own pics/screenshots to the forum as I've tried looking on the FAQ/help section.  Do I go through Steam or Origin, or by other means?  Been on a new canon playthrough (Ash as VS this time, not had her as VS + Citadel DLC before) and I've just completed LotSB, so lots of lovely pics and a - modestly put - lovely bit of head canon.

 

Many thanks

Like Mordokai I use Photobucket for posting pics on BSN. There are others of course, but that's the one I prefer to use on here.

 

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Thanks for the info, had a quick butchers at Photobucket (looks my Saturday is booked up now).

 

As for Nexus Mods, I'd recommend registering, been on there for a few years for Skyrim mods and it's worth it, much better than the Steam Workshop for mods.

 

In the meantime, sure this has been posted before, one from the very talented pineappletree

 

 

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So here's a question I've been contemplating for a while now. You know, those little blue children that get mentioned so often?

 

Is Liara even old enough to bear children? I know asari usually get children in their matron stage(300 years, give or take), but there are instances of them having kids sooner. Exception rather than rule. Could Liara be one such exception or is that firmly in the realm of headcanon?



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Is Liara even old enough to bear children? [...]

 

I don't have any 'official' documentation for this, but as always l would maintain that from a biological / evolutionary standpoint (dangerous waters in science fiction, I know) it'd be absolutely bonkers to fully grow an Asari's body, start all the necessary sexual drives in it and then basically let it sit there 'unused' for 250 or so years, before it's actually able to repoduce.

That'd be one huge amount of wasted time and energy, full of futile (again - biologically speaking), potentially risky sexual encounters.

 

That'd be evolution saying "Don't worry about all the wild animals and hunger and diseases and that particularly nasty tribe in the neighbouring cave, just go and have fun with your body for the first 300 years of you life. And should you manage not to die in all that time, maybe, possibly we could start with that keeping your species alive thing then... ?"

 

So bar some highly unlikely oddities in Asari history and evolution, it seems reasonable to assume that mysterious 300 year age is mostly a socially and economically driven point of more or less concious decision, just like it exists for us humans.

 

Which means that yes, I think Liara could definitely have those little blue children if she wanted to.

 

 

And after this lecture by and about the views of Prof. Dr. Dr. Pineappletree, here's something soothing for our minds.

Another all-time favourite (that's actually supposed to show Benezia, but I can't help seeing her daughter in it :D ) by StellarStateLogic @ DeviantArt

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And I don't know if the TotPP tradition is still alive in this thread, but for old times' sake and speaking of the little blue ones:

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My tuppence worth....

 

1st the head canon, the seriously good texture improvements to Liara from LotSB onwards was me thinking Shep + Liara = Liara's found her bondmate and that's when an Asari matures to matronhood.

 

2nd sci-fi answer, don't Asari chose to reproduce rather than require the normal mammalian messiness?  And if so wouldn't that imply that what we take as biological drives don't actually exist in Asari (possibly why their population isn't that high, after all if you have 500+ years of fertility, that's a lot of lil' blue babies :lol: )

 

3rd more head canon....the last "freaky black eyes of eternity" moment was when Liara decided "it's now or never".

 

Actually the happy ending I wanted was not Shep living, but in the memorial scene Liara's right hand is on the nameplate and her left over her stomach

 

Nice pics pineappletree, thanks not seen them before.


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In order for a relationship to work long-term, I think the partners need some semblance of equality. The fleshing out and evolution Liara underwent in LotSB made her a much better match for Shepard, imho - and I'm guessing that's what the writers were going for.

I'll discuss my thoughts about each character individually, and then address them as a couple.

Given the longer lifespans humans enjoy in the latter part of the 22nd century, it seems to me like the aging process would have also slowed down. Humanity has really only started to tap into the possibilities inherent in dna modifications and other life-enhancing, life-prolonging technologies at that point. In the next 50 years, they could extend the human lifespan another 100 years, and then another. Combine that with the cybernetics and some effects from the Lazarus Project, and it isn't all that difficult to imagine that Shepard could be around long enough to see Liara as a Matriarch, while keeping her teeth, muscle tone, erect posture, and reasonably taut skin.

By the end of ME3, Shepard is not only a symbol, but the embodiment of faith, hope, inspiration, overcoming impossible odds - a living legend - yet she still sees herself as just another soldier who did what needed to be done. She wants to stay out of the limelight, but is nowhere near ready to retire. She wants to continue to serve, protect, and inspire - but on her terms, not according to the demands of some other organization. To those ends, she arranges to have ongoing use of the Normandy to engage in independent Spectre operations - independent in the sense that she rarely accepts specific assignments from the Council, but instead pursues leads (mostly supplied by the Shadow Broker) she deems important to the ongoing security of the greater galactic community.

Liara publishes the process / methodology she had used to recognize the cyclic extinction patterns she told us about when we first rescued her from Therum. It is well-received by researchers in a variety of disciplines, and becomes another useful tool in their arsenal. She also writes and publishes the definitive works on the reapers and extinction cycles. Much of her interest in studying Protheans had been based on the belief that they built the Citadel and mass relays, and wanting to know more about their extinction. Though she still retains a modicum of interest in studying ancient civilizations, much of her passion for Prothean studies has been quenched by the satisfaction of the bulk of her intellectual curiosity about them.

Meanwhile, she still considers her role as the Shadow Broker to be her "dream job" and continues to operate what's left of the network, while enhancing and rebuilding it. She continues to add new capabilities and upgrades Glyph enough to allow her to take time away from it as desired. She will eventually turn it over to her child(ren).


Shepard and Liara marry and have little blue children, splitting their time between an apartment on the Citadel and a country estate on Thessia. Liara sometimes takes the girls on field trips to safe dig sites where she does some short-term studies.

They also adopt and raise a human child. The story behind that is they are doing some paperwork in some government office on Earth and hear about an infant the authorities can't save because they can't take care of her. Her mother was exposed to massive amounts of eezo, the baby needs to be fed and changed, but is putting up biotic barriers that make it impossible for anyone to work with her. Liara mind-melds with the baby, comforts her, helps her understand how to drop the barrier, and then proceeds to take care of her. With repeated "lessons" from Liara (and Grandma Aethyta) over the next few weeks, the baby develops enough control of her biotics to enable Shepard to assist with her care.

As a couple, they have the right stuff to stay together for the long haul. They share a tremendous mutual attraction, affection, appreciation, and respect for one another, and go through many different phases in their lives - never too domestic for too long, sometimes separated to pursue individual interests, other times working together and getting in each others' business... it just works.

 

I forgot I had asked what peoples' post war head canon was. Very well done..particularly like the bolded.

 

Right now this below is my head canon on Liara & Shepard, though that could chance once ME: Next rolls around. It will be interesting to see where that takes the series. 

 

Shepard - After several surgeries and a year and a half spent in recovery and physical therapy, Shepard resigns from the Office of Special Tactics and Reconnaissance and returns to duty with the Alliance. He is later promoted to Captain and appointed commanding officer of the rebuilt Interplanetary Combatives Training (a.k.a. N-School or the Villa) at Vila Militar in Rio de Janeiro. He retires from the military on the twenty year anniversary of his enlistment and becomes a high paid security consultant for shipping and mining corporations doing business in sectors of space known for political instability, strife, or piracy. Despite his fame from Elysium and the Reaper War, he shuns all requests for interviews, book, or film deals, and employs a VI to screen all mail and comm requests. Upon his death at the age of 152, the Alliance gives him a state funeral attended by representatives of all Earth's nations as well as the members of the current Citadel Council, and delegations from all the species who fought in the Reaper War. Among them were a few Batarians.

Liara - Spends a decade as the Shadow Broker, using the resources at her disposal to both aid in the rebuilding process for formerly occupied worlds, and to neutralize threats that might seek to take advantage of the war's aftermath. Finally satisfied that she had done as much as she could, Liara turned over the reigns to Feron in what might of been the first peaceful transition of power for the organization in living memory. Following her 'retirement' Liara and Shepard held a quiet and traditional Asari bonding ceremony in the Thessian countryside outside Armali. She returned to the life she thought of as her true calling, and would spend the rest of her days as a scientist and academic. While heading a dig sponsored by the University of Serrice, Liara's team would unearth a significant Inusannon find beneath a Prothean site. In later years her work at this site caused her to became more well known as an expert on late period Inusannon, than for her earlier work with the Protheans. Following Shepard's death she eventually remarried, and by the time she passed at the age of 1173, she had had three bondmates...something not unusual for the extremely long-lived Asari. She was survived by four daughters, the first of which was from her union with Shepard.

 

 

 

Rane, on 22 Feb 2015 - 12:37 AM, said:

But with her again I'm torn. Does she stay the Shadow Broker or not?
Even though the War probably cost her most of her network, personally, I think too many people knew who the Shadow Broker was by the end of the War. I mean a lot of Cerberus agents would've known, and once the "genies out of the bottle" so to speak it wouldn't be long before everyone knew.

 

I'm kind of torn on that as well, though my head canon has her eventually passing the reigns to Feron. I think it's that story she tells about Benezia and digging for ruins in the park when she was a child, or generally geeking out on all things Prothean, that makes me feel like that is her true calling. So right now I lean towards going back to being an archaeologist as the happier ending for her.

 

Having said that I think there would still be a role for the Shadow Broker network even if Liara were to step aside. The trick would be in making sure is in capable hands.

 

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I don't have any 'official' documentation for this, but as always l would maintain that from a biological / evolutionary standpoint (dangerous waters in science fiction, I know) it'd be absolutely bonkers to fully grow an Asari's body, start all the necessary sexual drives in it and then basically let it sit there 'unused' for 250 or so years, before it's actually able to repoduce.

That'd be one huge amount of wasted time and energy, full of futile (again - biologically speaking), potentially risky sexual encounters.

 

That'd be evolution saying "Don't worry about all the wild animals and hunger and diseases and that particularly nasty tribe in the neighbouring cave, just go and have fun with your body for the first 300 years of you life. And should you manage not to die in all that time, maybe, possibly we could start with that keeping your species alive thing then... ?"

 

So bar some highly unlikely oddities in Asari history and evolution, it seems reasonable to assume that mysterious 300 year age is mostly a socially and economically driven point of more or less concious decision, just like it exists for us humans.

 

Which means that yes, I think Liara could definitely have those little blue children if she wanted to.

 

I like your way of thinking, if only because it makes a load of sense. Much like yourself, it never made sense to me that, biologically speaking, the asari wouldn't be able to have children for 300 years. So to say that they do so because of societal norms/prescriptions or because they are too busy enjoying life until then(lets face it, if my lifespan was millennia, children and family would probably be way low on priority list) is actually something I can understand.

 

Also helps me with my headcanon, which is always good :) So thanks for that and for sharing your thoughts. And for all the great artwork you put up... always nice to see more of it ;)

 

Among them were a few Batarians.

 

That made me smile... not laugh, but smile yes :) Given that my canon Shepard was the infamous Butcher of Torfan, I doubt there'd be many batarians at her funeral... at least with peaceful and noble intentions. But I like it... I like to believe in good of people(or aliens, as case may be) and I like seeing batarians as more than just a throwaway joke or mooks that are only fit for slaughter. Nicely done.

 

I think this one has been posted already, but we can always do with more pictures of our favourite blue beauty :)

 

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Please please post Liara in wedding dress :D



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Please please post Liara in wedding dress :D

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Liara stloe EDI's "armour".

 

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Still she is better in good armor.



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^^ Now that's one helluva' a nice  .. uhm', pic.

 



Still she is better in good armor.

 

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That last one is from his Memoirs FanFic where Liara goes undercover a few times using an 'alter ego' and she even encounters the crazy Jona Sederis. 



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That last one is from his Memoirs FanFic where Liara goes undercover a few times using an 'alter ego' and she even encounters the crazy Jona Sederis. 

 

Alright, so here's a question about Asari in general: are their facial marking natural, like birth marks, or are they applied like make-up?



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Alright, so here's a question about Asari in general: are their facial marking natural, like birth marks, or are they applied like make-up?

 

They are supposed to be natural. Liara's 'eyebrows' are actually facial markings.

 

On that note Samara & Morinth don't have facial markings at all. Maybe reduced or nonexistant facial markings are a sign of being a pureblood? I always wondered how Asari were able to immediately recognize some characters as being pureblood.



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They are supposed to be natural. Liara's 'eyebrows' are actually facial markings.

 

On that note Samara & Morinth don't have facial markings at all. Maybe reduced or nonexistant facial markings are a sign of being a pureblood? I always wondered how Asari were able to immediately recognize some characters as being pureblood.

There might be something to that, but Rila and Falere both had facial markings and nearly all the Asari wandering around the Citadel, Ilium and Omega have no markings at all (in ME2 anyway). Like Detective Anaya, that Asari on Ilium who loses her bondmates locket, Matriarch Aethyta and the Synthetic Insights rep etcetera.

 

But that's just lack of detail by the devs I expect. 

 

But what puzzles me more is the different colouring, like Tevos has bright white, Aria has purple and Lt Kurin has pink! Pink? Wtf? Or is that just make-up a.k.a 'warpaint".  Or do the Asari have some residual type of chromatophores from a distant aquatic ancestor.

 

Or maybe I'm thinking too much about this.

 

Anyway we need more frekcles. (I'll have to make that into a sig.)

 

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I don't have any 'official' documentation for this, but as always l would maintain that from a biological / evolutionary standpoint (dangerous waters in science fiction, I know) it'd be absolutely bonkers to fully grow an Asari's body, start all the necessary sexual drives in it and then basically let it sit there 'unused' for 250 or so years, before it's actually able to repoduce.
That'd be one huge amount of wasted time and energy, full of futile (again - biologically speaking), potentially risky sexual encounters.

That'd be evolution saying "Don't worry about all the wild animals and hunger and diseases and that particularly nasty tribe in the neighbouring cave, just go and have fun with your body for the first 300 years of you life. And should you manage not to die in all that time, maybe, possibly we could start with that keeping your species alive thing then... ?"

So bar some highly unlikely oddities in Asari history and evolution, it seems reasonable to assume that mysterious 300 year age is mostly a socially and economically driven point of more or less concious decision, just like it exists for us humans.

Which means that yes, I think Liara could definitely have those little blue children if she wanted to.


That's my take on it as well.

Well, sort of. I think that their biological imperatives are likely quite different from ours. They grow up in a culture that is more cooperative than competitive, and has no gender role expectations.

If they had the same sort of sex / reproduction drive as humans, their population would have consumed the entire galaxy by now, especially in light of their long lifespans. I'm guessing they're not nearly as interested in engaging in casual sexual encounters with random strangers as humans might be, and spend some pretty big chunks of their lives celibate. Of course, I'm also guessing that they become pregnant purely by choice, not chance, so there's that.

Also, the stages are really general approximations; individuals can vary. In fact, frequent melding can cause them to enter the next stage a bit earlier than they otherwise would.

From the wiki: (copied from the codex)

Asari pass through three climacteric life stages, marked by biochemical and physiological changes:

  • The Maiden stage begins at puberty and is marked by the drive to explore and experience. Most young asari are curious and restless, and it is not uncommon for many to try their hand at dancing in bars or working as mercenaries during this time.
  • The Matron stage of life begins around the age of 350, though it can be triggered earlier if the individual melds frequently. This period is marked by a desire to settle in one area and raise children.
  • The Matriarch stage begins around 700 years of age, or earlier if the individual melds rarely. Matriarchs become active in their community as sages and councilors, dispensing wisdom from centuries of experience. Their knowledge and guidance may be one reason why Matriarchs are rarely seen outside asari space.

However, it should be noted that each stage can be started whenever an asari feels that she has reached the correct level of maturity. While each stage of life is marked by strong biological tendencies, individuals do make unexpected life choices. For example, there are Maidens who stay close to home rather than explore, Matrons who would rather work than build a family, and Matriarchs who have no interest in community affairs.



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I'm kind of torn on that as well, though my head canon has her eventually passing the reigns to Feron. I think it's that story she tells about Benezia and digging for ruins in the park when she was a child, or generally geeking out on all things Prothean, that makes me feel like that is her true calling. So right now I lean towards going back to being an archaeologist as the happier ending for her.


It is difficult to ignore those adorable moments of geekjoy.

It is also difficult to ignore her declaration of becoming the SB as her "dream job" - and I keep coming back to her having said she'd dedicated her life to solving the mystery of cyclical extinction patterns when she first came aboard the Normandy. Mystery solved, life work complete... so she sort of needs a new purpose, whatever it might be. In addition to raising blue babies with Shepard, that is.

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RANE

 

Really liked blue kid.Please post more.