TMA LIVE wrote...
Let's not go off topic with TIM and Cerberus. And the statue bit is taking over.
How about this: How much do you want Liara to stay independent?
Because this has always been a debate with me. Some people don't what Liara to depend on Shepard, and make her own choices without his influence. Some people want to continue being the savior and white knight for Liara, and control her path. But I want to figure out what people want out of her as a character, and how she interacts with Shepard.
In some ways, she's always been strong and independent since ME1. She mostly works alone, and tries to take care of herself. The thing is, she was very shy, and you had to rescue her. A lot of people saw her as helpless, and shouldn't be on the battlefield. There's even lines where Shepard can give her romantic bull****, like "I'll keep you safe".
But after giving her this line, Liara will say "I'm not looking for a protector". Some see this as her still showing her independence. But I never liked this line, since I never felt it was completely true. Especially since she wants to be on board for protection against Saren. So I never felt sold on it. And I know a lot of people still felt like she was flower needing protection.
Now fast forward to ME2, she's independent super woman. Yet still needs you to give her data in order to find the Shadow Broker. She still needs you to hack terminals for her, because you're the only person she trusts. She's still a person that needs help.
However, that's as far as it goes. She avoids being killed by a sniper, survives an explosion, chases a Spectre, while Shepard has to play catchup. She's the one leading forward. She's the one who choose to be Shadow Broker. And she seems to not want rely on you, and clearly doesn't need your protection. This I like, because she has to learn that it's alright to need help from others. That yes, you can do things on your own, but so much more can be done with the help of others.
Now let's talk about emotional support.
Some believe being strong and independent means Liara shouldn't need Shepard emotionally. Or have any real emotional moments, where she needs support. Yet, one of my main complaints in ME1 was when she helped kill her mother, and she was over it. Yes, she misses her, but she was pretty much keeping it all inside. She's not allowing you to really help her. Or you were simply never given the chance. Which I always found disappointing.
It's something I hope never becomes repeated in ME3. Like say, say Liara's father dies:
Shepard: Oh, Liara. I'm so sorry for you. You just started getting to know your father, and now she's dead. She got indoctrinated, and you have to shoot her.
Liara: Yes, it's very sad. I'll try to remember her.
.....
Shepard: Shouldn't you be more emotional about it?
Liara: I'm over it. Let's continue the mission.
Another thing people didn't like about her character in ME2, was that no matter how much you gave, or did for her, nothing ever got beyond business. Everything was about the Shadow Broker, Feron, and hardly anything with about talking about the two of you. It was all just mostly business.
While in LOTSB, at the end, she wants to spend time with you, despite having a busy schedule. She wants to have a moment where you and her matter, and nothing else.
So, with all that being said, what exactly do you want out of Liara as a independent woman? What do you expect?
I think the inconsistencies were intentional to establish liara as being capable of something mant of her fans wouldn't expect. Liara being with someone else.
This is what makes me think Feron and Liara are more then just friends. The story doesn't make as much sense otherwise. I wonder why feron was in the back room instead of out helping Liara when you visit. I totally see shep walking in on them in me3 during an announced visit. I think Feron and Liara have a relationship and it'll come out in me3.
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