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[alex90c]

Robhuzz wrote...

Don't see why you'd need a flame shield for that. In order to get the achievements I created a few female characters in DAO to romance Zevran and Alistair. Nothing wrong with refusing to romance Zevran with a male character right?

When he said whether I'd have a problem with him fancying me and I was like no, when I talked to him later on and saw that he thought we were in a relationship ... I still felt kinda bad ending it even though I'm not in to guy on guy. Maybe Bioware should create uninteresting characters so I won't give a sh!t instead

Korkki wrote...

I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was that IMHO it's extremely
normal playing as a male Shep, when you're a guy yourself and romancing
female characters, so there is nothing gay with that obviously. It would
be more gay to romance male characters with fem Shep when you're a guy than
when you play as a male Shep, But still it isn't gay or abnormal or
weird at all and I've got no problem with that, I actually have one fem
Shep save file myself.

Arrgghh, that was still a very bad
explanation... So there is nothing wrong with playing as a male Shep or
fem Shep if are a guy or girl yourself, so there is nothing wrong with
anything, everything is normal... hmm.. that's still bad, well maybe you
got my point anyway 

HOMOPHOBE
j/k 

"luckily" FemShep was kinda screwed when it came to romances in ME2 so I haven't really had that ... problem? (can you call it a problem??). I mean Jacob and Thane, just nah, and Garrus ... well tbh I've seen the final scene on Youtube and I thought it was pretty cool so I still need to get round to doing his. Of course, that would mean not playing ME1 first, since Liara just lures me in ... every ... damn ... time ... and I love every minute of it

[Ophiskc]

[JamieCOTC]

Korkki wrote...

alex90c wrote...


Ehhh, I don't really have a problem romancing dudes with a female character. Only thing I won't do, and not because I'm homophobic but because ... it's "not in my interest" is have a dude character romance another dude.

*raises flame shield*

I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was that IMHO it's extremely normal playing as a male Shep, when you're a guy yourself and romancing female characters, so there is nothing gay with that obviously. It would be more gay to romance male characters with fem Shep when you're a guy than when you play as a male Shep, But still it isn't gay or abnormal or weird at all and I've got no problem with that, I actually have one fem Shep save file myself.

Arrgghh, that was still a very bad explanation... So there is nothing wrong with playing as a male Shep or fem Shep if are a guy or girl yourself, so there is nothing wrong with anything, everything is normal... hmm.. that's still bad, well maybe you got my point anyway 

Unless you view Shep as a character and you're not playing yourself.  Then it's like watching some chick romance a guy in a movie.  That's they way I see it. 

[TMA LIVE]

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, have anyone consider that, if you don't play LOTSB, Liara's might still become the Shadow Broker, but Feron might be dead?

Someone from BioWare already stated that Liara will always become SB, and Feron will be saved, even if you don't play the DLC, because it is optional content but part of the established story arc.

k. I'm trying to think of what changes happen for not doing it, since as Ali says, she's doing lines for people who never played it. Besides Shepard not being involved, I guess you're relationship with Liara is the only one that changes.

[Robhuzz]

Lizardviking wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, have anyone consider that, if you don't play LOTSB, Liara's might still become the Shadow Broker, but Feron might be dead?

I also think everything will be the same, Feron alive and all. But i'll be very curious to hear how she took the SB down alone (If they dont assume that Shepard helped yes or yes)

I believe it's just that. If you don't do Lotsb for whatever reason, Shepard still does outside the game so Lotsb is considered completed upon starting ME3 with either an import or a new character. And since there aren't any choices to be made in this DLC, it's easy to predict how it will play out. This will probably cause more distress among Liara haters but... I don't really care. What I'm wondering about is how not playing Lotsb will affect Shep/Liara's romance. Is it likely to assume the romance continues or will it be ended by default?

Actually by the sound of it. I think they will handle LOTSB differently if you did not play the DLC. I really hope they do this instead of just jumping over the fact that the player never got to experience it, because doing so would be a major disservice to those who stayed loyal but did not get LOTSB for whatever reasons.

If you romanced Liara but did not play LOTSB. Then hopefully there will be some alternative dialog for them. Preferebly a more heated and more bitter version of Shepard's confrontation of Liara on the hotel. Because such players really need such a conversation.

That's really weird. Not to cut out Liara or anything but she couldn't have done it without Shepards help. Period. Sure she's a powerful biotic (especially for her relatively young age) and she's smart but how exactly would she have made it to the base? Let's assume she got the data after all, maybe directly from Cerberus. She would've fled to the dracon trade center and without Shepard, Vasir would not have known where she went so no bombing of the trade center. That also leaves out any Liara vs Vasir 1 on 1 battle since that's one Liara can not win by herself.

At the base she somehow single handedly handled the entire SB army and beat the yagh by herself? Right... Unless she hired a massive merc band which I can totally see her doing at that point.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Robhuzz wrote...
That's really weird. Not to cut out Liara or anything but she couldn't have done it without Shepards help. Period. Sure she's a powerful biotic (especially for her relatively young age) and she's smart but how exactly would she have made it to the base? Let's assume she got the data after all, maybe directly from Cerberus. She would've fled to the dracon trade center and without Shepard, Vasir would not have known where she went so no bombing of the trade center. That also leaves out any Liara vs Vasir 1 on 1 battle since that's one Liara can not win by herself.

At the base she somehow single handedly handled the entire SB army and beat the yagh by herself? Right... Unless she hired a massive merc band which I can totally see her doing at that point.

I do not know how Bioware will have it change. But what I wanted to say was that I hope they got some really good alternative dialog for those that romanced Liara but did not get LOTSB. Because romance arc between Shepard and Liara really needs them to overcome what happend on Illium.

[Kadzin]

Ophiskc wrote...

I like this picture a lot, where is it from?

[TMA LIVE]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Korkki wrote...

alex90c wrote...


Ehhh, I don't really have a problem romancing dudes with a female character. Only thing I won't do, and not because I'm homophobic but because ... it's "not in my interest" is have a dude character romance another dude.

*raises flame shield*

I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was that IMHO it's extremely normal playing as a male Shep, when you're a guy yourself and romancing female characters, so there is nothing gay with that obviously. It would be more gay to romance male characters with fem Shep when you're a guy than when you play as a male Shep, But still it isn't gay or abnormal or weird at all and I've got no problem with that, I actually have one fem Shep save file myself.

Arrgghh, that was still a very bad explanation... So there is nothing wrong with playing as a male Shep or fem Shep if are a guy or girl yourself, so there is nothing wrong with anything, everything is normal... hmm.. that's still bad, well maybe you got my point anyway 

Unless you view Shep as a character and you're not playing yourself.  Then it's like watching some chick romance a guy in a movie.  That's they way I see it. 

Here's my deal. As a guy, I can play femshep fine, but when I think of the concept of some man putting his hands on my Avatar, even if it's a girl, I can't do it. I can't. So all my Maleshep's are straight, and my femsheps are lesbains.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 05 septembre 2011 - 08:59 .

[Ophiskc]

Robhuzz wrote...

At the base she somehow single handedly handled the entire SB army and beat the yagh by herself? Right... Unless she hired a massive merc band which I can totally see her doing at that point.

She said in Illium that she even has hired muscles, so it could be a posibility. There could be out there very good ones (like it was with Wrex, Zaeed or Thane as example), and with her intelligence i believe she can be a good lider

[Robhuzz]

Ophiskc wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

At the base she somehow single handedly handled the entire SB army and beat the yagh by herself? Right... Unless she hired a massive merc band which I can totally see her doing at that point.

She said in Illium that she even has hired muscles, so it could be a posibility. There could be out there very good ones (like it was with Wrex, Zaeed or Thane as example), and with her intelligence i believe she can be a good lider

So many possibilities. I guess I'll have to wait until march next year before watching a youtube vid showing the dialogue change. I'm certainly not going to skip Lotsb in one of my playthroughs of course.

[jlb524]

alex90c wrote...

Ehhh, I don't really have a problem romancing dudes with a female character. Only thing I won't do, and not because I'm homophobic but because ... it's "not in my interest" is have a dude character romance another dude.

*raises flame shield*

There's nothing wrong with having preferences.  I can't romance dudes with a male or female...nor can I play as a dude and romance a female.

I don't want dude anywhere near my romances

[Ophiskc]

Robhuzz wrote...

So many possibilities. I guess I'll have to wait until march next year before watching a youtube vid showing the dialogue change. I'm certainly not going to skip Lotsb in one of my playthroughs of course.

Me neither but i think after playing with my canons i'll create a file from 0 in ME3 and see how it goes, out of curiosity

Modifié par Ophiskc, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:08 .

[JamieCOTC]

TMA LIVE wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Korkki wrote...

alex90c wrote...


Ehhh, I don't really have a problem romancing dudes with a female character. Only thing I won't do, and not because I'm homophobic but because ... it's "not in my interest" is have a dude character romance another dude.

*raises flame shield*

I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was that IMHO it's extremely normal playing as a male Shep, when you're a guy yourself and romancing female characters, so there is nothing gay with that obviously. It would be more gay to romance male characters with fem Shep when you're a guy than when you play as a male Shep, But still it isn't gay or abnormal or weird at all and I've got no problem with that, I actually have one fem Shep save file myself.

Arrgghh, that was still a very bad explanation... So there is nothing wrong with playing as a male Shep or fem Shep if are a guy or girl yourself, so there is nothing wrong with anything, everything is normal... hmm.. that's still bad, well maybe you got my point anyway 

Unless you view Shep as a character and you're not playing yourself.  Then it's like watching some chick romance a guy in a movie.  That's they way I see it. 

Here's my deal. As a guy, I can play femshep fine, but when I think of the concept of some man putting his hands on my Avatar, even if it's a girl, I can't do it. I can't. So all my Maleshep's are straight, and my femsheps are lesbains.

I thought I'd be like that too, but I did do a Kaidan romance w/ one femShep.  It was fun, like I said, like watching a movie. My canon femShep (canon Shep for that matter) is a lesbian and has Liara as a LI.  And I'm very greedy when it comes to Liara.  Only one Shepard for her.  That's something I can't get past.  I can't play another femShep or even a broShep and romance Liara.  It would just seem wrong.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:10 .

[Sunnie]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, have anyone consider that, if you don't play LOTSB, Liara's might still become the Shadow Broker, but Feron might be dead?

Someone from BioWare already stated that Liara will always become SB, and Feron will be saved, even if you don't play the DLC, because it is optional content but part of the established story arc.

k. I'm trying to think of what changes happen for not doing it, since as Ali says, she's doing lines for people who never played it. Besides Shepard not being involved, I guess you're relationship with Liara is the only one that changes.

I'm pretty sure that Shepard is still the one who helped Liara, it's written in the story arc like that, no matter if a player  consumes the content or not.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

JamieCOTC wrote...
I thought I'd be like that too, but I did do a Kaidan romance w/ one femShep.  It was fun, like I said, like watching a movie.

I have a similiar view. I do not have any real problem with playing a female Shepard/Warden and romance Kaidan/Alistair.

My canon femShep (canon Shep for that matter) is a lesbian and has Liara as a LI.  And I'm very greedy when it comes to Liara.  Only one Shepard for her.  That's something I can't get past.  I can't play another femShep or even a broShep and romance Liara.  It would just seem wrong.

Ehh. I have both a male and a female Shepard who romances Liara. Need to experience both versions of the romance.

[Ophiskc]

Kadzin wrote...
*snip*

I like this picture a lot, where is it from?

When you play as Liara in ME1, the initial scene if i'm not wrong

[JamieCOTC]

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, have anyone consider that, if you don't play LOTSB, Liara's might still become the Shadow Broker, but Feron might be dead?

Someone from BioWare already stated that Liara will always become SB, and Feron will be saved, even if you don't play the DLC, because it is optional content but part of the established story arc.

k. I'm trying to think of what changes happen for not doing it, since as Ali says, she's doing lines for people who never played it. Besides Shepard not being involved, I guess you're relationship with Liara is the only one that changes.

I'm pretty sure that Shepard is still the one who helped Liara, it's written in the story arc like that, no matter if a player  consumes the content or not.

I can't see the logic of doing it any other way.  A lot of gamers came in cold into ME2 and they skipped a whole game w/ only a few short explinations of certain key decisions. 

[TMA LIVE]

JamieCOTC wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Korkki wrote...

alex90c wrote...


Ehhh, I don't really have a problem romancing dudes with a female character. Only thing I won't do, and not because I'm homophobic but because ... it's "not in my interest" is have a dude character romance another dude.

*raises flame shield*

I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was that IMHO it's extremely normal playing as a male Shep, when you're a guy yourself and romancing female characters, so there is nothing gay with that obviously. It would be more gay to romance male characters with fem Shep when you're a guy than when you play as a male Shep, But still it isn't gay or abnormal or weird at all and I've got no problem with that, I actually have one fem Shep save file myself.

Arrgghh, that was still a very bad explanation... So there is nothing wrong with playing as a male Shep or fem Shep if are a guy or girl yourself, so there is nothing wrong with anything, everything is normal... hmm.. that's still bad, well maybe you got my point anyway 

Unless you view Shep as a character and you're not playing yourself.  Then it's like watching some chick romance a guy in a movie.  That's they way I see it. 

Here's my deal. As a guy, I can play femshep fine, but when I think of the concept of some man putting his hands on my Avatar, even if it's a girl, I can't do it. I can't. So all my Maleshep's are straight, and my femsheps are lesbains.

I thought I'd be like that too, but I did do a Kaidan romance w/ one femShep.  It was fun, like I said, like watching a movie. My canon femShep (canon Shep for that matter) is a lesbian and has Liara as a LI.  And I'm very greedy when it comes to Liara.  Only one Shepard for her.  That's something I can't get past.  I can't play another femShep or even a broShep and romance Liara.  It would just seem wrong.

I did do a Kaidan romance once, but after I saw him kissing my Shepard, I was like "Nope. Not doing this". I think I said the same thing with Garrus, when I played a default Shepard. I ended up deleting them. I also had my Lady Hawke screw a male hooker. I ended up going back on a save, and making it not happen. It didn't matter if she ended up romancing a woman. I wanted no man in her history.

In practice, there should be nothing wrong with it. But I don't know. The way I see it is this. I get the concept that, because I'm playing a female, doing guys should be ok. But it's not ok. I don't like it. I just can't do it. And if I do, it's because I forced it to happen, and it was a mistake. Which I end up fixing. Like blowing up Kaidan on Virmire (just kidding... Well, kind of...).

As for romancing others, I might be able to do that. I romanced Merrill for my Male Hawke, and trying a romance with Isabela with Lady Hawke. Though not sure if I'll be continuing that or not.

For Mass Effect, I have one version where my Shepard romanced Liara, then Tali, then broke up with Tali, and continued romance with Liara. The other stayed loyal. And I have one femshep who stayed loyal to Liara, and one that's on a break with Liara after messing up the date. But they're meant to be with Liara in the end.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:27 .

[JamieCOTC]

Lizardviking wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...
I thought I'd be like that too, but I did do a Kaidan romance w/ one femShep.  It was fun, like I said, like watching a movie.

I have a similiar view. I do not have any real problem with playing a female Shepard/Warden and romance Kaidan/Alistair.

My canon femShep (canon Shep for that matter) is a lesbian and has Liara as a LI.  And I'm very greedy when it comes to Liara.  Only one Shepard for her.  That's something I can't get past.  I can't play another femShep or even a broShep and romance Liara.  It would just seem wrong.

Ehh. I have both a male and a female Shepard who romances Liara. Need to experience both versions of the romance.

I'm seriously considering having my current broShep stay professional w/ Liara.  In other words, he won't invite her up to the cabin. I'm waffling over it, because on the one hand, that's his character, but on the other hand, that scene is really, really hard to watch. 

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

JamieCOTC wrote...
I'm seriously considering having my current broShep stay professional w/ Liara.  In other words, he won't invite her up to the cabin. I'm waffling over it, because on the one hand, that's his character, but on the other hand, that scene is really, really hard to watch. 

Stay the course and decline her the option to visit the Normandy.

[alex90c]

Lizardviking wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...
I'm seriously considering having my current broShep stay professional w/ Liara.  In other words, he won't invite her up to the cabin. I'm waffling over it, because on the one hand, that's his character, but on the other hand, that scene is really, really hard to watch. 

Stay the course and decline her the option to visit the Normandy.

That's hard to watch too

[JamieCOTC]

TMA LIVE wrote...

*snip*

I did do a Kaidan romance once, but after I saw him kissing my Shepard, I was like "Nope. Not doing this". I think I said the same thing with Garrus, when I played a default Shepard. I ended up deleting them. I also had my Lady Hawke screw a male hooker. I ended up going back on a save, and making it not happen. It didn't matter if she ended up romancing a woman. I wanted no man in her history.

In practice, there should be nothing wrong with it. But I don't know. The way I see it is this. I get the concept that, because I'm playing a female, doing guys should be ok. But it's not ok. I don't like it. I just can't do it. And if I do, it's because I forced it to happen, and it was a mistake. Which I end up fixing. Like blowing up Kaidan on Virmire (just kidding... Well, kind of...).

As for romancing others, I might be able to do that. I romanced Merrill for my Male Hawke, and trying a romance with Isabela with Lady Hawke. Though not sure if I'll be continuing that or not.

For Mass Effect, I have one version where my Shepard romanced Liara, then Tali, then broke up with Tali, and continued romance with Liara. The other stayed loyal. And I have one femshep who stayed loyal to Liara, and one that's on a break with Liara after messing up the date.

There's no wrong way to play a game, and you have to do what you like.  I divorce myself from the character, be they male or female, as much as possible.  For me, that's part of the fun of it.  Adding that extra layer of RP. 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:41 .

[King Minos]

I ended the relationship with Liara and declined her the tour with my renegade Shepard, I admit something about her reaction felt...good. Was really satisfied with it, any hint of being cold, snarky or a jerk to my renegade and she will do the same, along with ripping open emotional scars. My renegade didnt like being treated as coldly ignored and got suspicious and annoyed that Liara (in Shepards words) danced around the idea of Shepard being jealous AND didn't out right confirm they are not together, so in retaliation, she got with Thane. However she is the only one, all the others are faithful to Liara and will do anything to see her smile.

[Taritu]

Yeah, as a guy irl, I find I can romance a woman as a male or female avatar, but I can't bring myself to romance a guy when my avatar is male. I made a female to romance Zevran, and it's a very sweet romance, but couldn't see doing it as a guy.

I do have one Kaidan romance, because I liked him a lot. But my other ME1 romances were all Liara. I found it very difficult to tell her I wasn't interested. Oddly, I have no Ash romance, I just didn't like her enough.

[King Minos]

My paragades can't say no to Liara at all, but that is mainly a personal choice and not Shepards because I hate seeing people cry, especially when men cry, I don't know what to do. My renegade is gonna have her ass bitten so much she won't have an ass left, or any friends.