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[TMA LIVE]

I think all my Shepards will be with Liara, one way or another. I only have one character were she and Liara aren't talking after an argument in the cabin. But that's for story reasons. Even if this Shepard doesn't get Liara back in ME3, I think she'll not move on, and love her from afar, with regret.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 05 septembre 2011 - 10:37 .

[King Minos]

Just wondering TMA LIVE, does Liara walking out on you mean it's the end of the relationship or just a night that ended with a sour note? Maybe cause even more arguements which would be interesting in ME3, how would Shepard react if Liara asked to join or vice versa?

[ladyvader]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I think all my Shepards will be with Liara, one way or another. I only have one character were she and Liara aren't talking after an argument in the cabin. But that's for story reasons. Even if this Shepard doesn't get Liara back in ME3, I think she'll not move on, and love her from afar, with regret.

I can't bring myself to do that.  I did it once and reloaded my save and did it over. 

[TMA LIVE]

King Minos wrote...

Just wondering TMA LIVE, does Liara walking out on you mean it's the end of the relationship or just a night that ended with a sour note? Maybe cause even more arguements which would be interesting in ME3, how would Shepard react if Liara asked to join or vice versa?

I think, in the situation where you invite her to your cabin, but tell her you don't see a point in trying to be together, you're just on a break. You didn't breakup with her. You're just seperated for the moment. Because Liara says they'll talk again later.

You're in the same boat as someone who didn't play LOTSB, or told Liara to just be friends for now. You're on a break. You didn't break up.

[WoolyJoe]

alex90c wrote...

 Liara just lures me in ... every ... damn ... time ... and I love every minute of it

Tell me about it...

There's options-a-plenty in the Mass Effect trilogy, but that doesn't mean I've tried any of them...

[TheMarshal]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I think, in the situation where you invite her to your cabin, but tell her you don't see a point in trying to be together, you're just on a break. You didn't breakup with her. You're just seperated for the moment. Because Liara says they'll talk again later.

You're in the same boat as someone who didn't play LOTSB, or told Liara to just be friends for now. You're on a break. You didn't break up.

[TMA LIVE]

ladyvader wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

I think all my Shepards will be with Liara, one way or another. I only have one character were she and Liara aren't talking after an argument in the cabin. But that's for story reasons. Even if this Shepard doesn't get Liara back in ME3, I think she'll not move on, and love her from afar, with regret.

I can't bring myself to do that.  I did it once and reloaded my save and did it over. 

That's why it ain't my self insert Shepard. It's a role-play character. She's my only renegon character, who made choices I'll never do in another playthrough.

But one thing I'll never do is breakup with Liara. I can make Liara get angry at Shepard and walk out, but I can't make Shepard breakup with her. Because they can't. None of them can. They don't want to.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 05 septembre 2011 - 11:14 .

[Ophiskc]

TMA LIVE wrote...

That's why it ain't my self insert Shepard. It's a role-play character. She's my only renegon character, who made choices I'll never do in another playthrough.

But one thing I'll never do is breakup with Liara. I can make Liara get angry at Shepard and walk out, but I can't make Shepard breakup with her. Because they can't. None of them can. They don't want to.

So far i hadnt messed up with Liara, but you're giving me very good ideas for one of my renegades. I like your point of view

Modifié par Ophiskc, 05 septembre 2011 - 11:20 .

[HogarthHughes 3]

TMA LIVE wrote...

That's why it ain't my self insert Shepard. It's a role-play character. She's my only renegon character, who made choices I'll never do in another playthrough.

But one thing I'll never do is breakup with Liara. I can make Liara get angry at Shepard and walk out, but I can't make Shepard breakup with her. Because they can't. None of them can. They don't want to.

It's funny to me how everyone else seems to have their renegade characters screw up their personal relationships while their paragon ones get things right.  For me its the opposite:  My paragon femshep is incredibly hurt by Kaidans words on Horizon and quickly jumps from partner to partner looking for affection, while my "renegon" has no trouble sticking with Liara.  Perhaps thats just cause most people see their renegade playthrough as their screw up one.  (again its the opposite for me)

[ladyvader]

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

That's why it ain't my self insert Shepard. It's a role-play character. She's my only renegon character, who made choices I'll never do in another playthrough.

But one thing I'll never do is breakup with Liara. I can make Liara get angry at Shepard and walk out, but I can't make Shepard breakup with her. Because they can't. None of them can. They don't want to.

It's funny to me how everyone else seems to have their renegade characters screw up their personal relationships while their paragon ones get things right.  For me its the opposite:  My paragon femshep is incredibly hurt by Kaidans words on Horizon and quickly jumps from partner to partner looking for affection, while my "renegon" has no trouble sticking with Liara.  Perhaps thats just cause most people see their renegade playthrough as their screw up one.  (again its the opposite for me)

My tool femShep is a paragon actually.  She's just a complete tool when it comes to her personal life and cheated on Liara with Garrus.  Which is why I call her a tool.   She broke it off with Garrus and is back with Liara, but now I'm tempting to have her get together with Thane before I play ME3 and see what happens with that.

I can't do the scene where Liara walks out of the cabin a tad bit ticked off and disappointed.

@TMA
After Liara walks out of the cabin.  Is her picture still up?  Just wondering.

Modifié par ladyvader, 05 septembre 2011 - 11:40 .

[Red Son Rising]

letting a friend play ME2 on my gamertag so they can see all the dlc, still forced em to chose liara in the motion comic. liara or nothing, cant allow anything else on my account. no chance

[TMA LIVE]

Not only is the picture up, but you'll also get the picture scene before starting the SM.

However, I'm told you get those if you just breakup with her, but don't move on.

[ladyvader]

I think the picture is going to be the trigger in the import.

[HogarthHughes 3]

Ericzio wrote...

Do you think Shepard puts down the picture because s/he is ashamed of him/herself? Or just to not ****** off the new love interest?

Would be kinda weird to have a picture of your ex prominently displayed where you live, especially when it's the only picture you have.

[robtheguru]

Ericzio wrote...

Do you think Shepard puts down the picture because s/he is ashamed of him/herself? Or just to not ****** off the new love interest?

I think its a bit of both to be fair. He probably hid it when doing the dirty and then when he finished was too ashamed to lift the picture back up. If you did the dirty on Liara you deserve the shame <_<

Modifié par robtheguru, 06 septembre 2011 - 03:39 .

[ladyvader]

robtheguru wrote...

Ericzio wrote...

Do you think Shepard puts down the picture because s/he is ashamed of him/herself? Or just to not ****** off the new love interest?

I think its a bit of both to be fair. He probably hid it when doing the dirty and then when he finished was too ashamed to lift the picture back up. If you did the dirty on Liara you deserve the shame <_<

If you break it off with the ME2 LI, the picture comes back up.:innocent:

Modifié par ladyvader, 06 septembre 2011 - 04:42 .

[robtheguru]

ladyvader wrote...

robtheguru wrote...

Ericzio wrote...

Do you think Shepard puts down the picture because s/he is ashamed of him/herself? Or just to not ****** off the new love interest?

I think its a bit of both to be fair. He probably hid it when doing the dirty and then when he finished was too ashamed to lift the picture back up. If you did the dirty on Liara you deserve the shame <_<

If you break it off with the ME2 LI, the picture comes back up.:innocent:

Anyones Shep who cheated should kill themselves. Screw saving the universe, his infidelity should lead him to killing himself lol

[Kadzin]

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

Ericzio wrote...

Do you think Shepard puts down the picture because s/he is ashamed of him/herself? Or just to not ****** off the new love interest?

Would be kinda weird to have a picture of your ex prominently displayed where you live, especially when it's the only picture you have.

Maybe Shep doesn't know how to change the picture, but doesn't want to throw away the frame.

[Robhuzz]

Ophiskc wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

So many possibilities. I guess I'll have to wait until march next year before watching a youtube vid showing the dialogue change. I'm certainly not going to skip Lotsb in one of my playthroughs of course.

Me neither but i think after playing with my canons i'll create a file from 0 in ME3 and see how it goes, out of curiosity

I guess if the intro comic, or whatever it's going to be called, is any good there is no reason not to try a new character in ME3. I guess it also depends on how much fun ME3 is to play and how high the replayability actually is. That's the only way I'd ever end up with a single Shepard by the time of ME3. Even this Shepard would, if possible, still romance Liara in ME3..

I'm seriously considering having my current broShep stay professional w/ Liara.  In other words, he won't invite her up to the cabin. I'm waffling over it, because on the one hand, that's his character, but on the other hand, that scene is really, really hard to watch.  

Why would it be unprofessional to catch up with an old team member? Tell her you want to be friends then invite her to the normandy. Nothing unprofessional about that imo. Not inviting her is more of a "I'm not your friend so get lost!" kind of action anyway. Not something I would call professional...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 06 septembre 2011 - 06:58 .

[Robhuzz]

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, have anyone consider that, if you don't play LOTSB, Liara's might still become the Shadow Broker, but Feron might be dead?

Someone from BioWare already stated that Liara will always become SB, and Feron will be saved, even if you don't play the DLC, because it is optional content but part of the established story arc.

k. I'm trying to think of what changes happen for not doing it, since as Ali says, she's doing lines for people who never played it. Besides Shepard not being involved, I guess you're relationship with Liara is the only one that changes.

I'm pretty sure that Shepard is still the one who helped Liara, it's written in the story arc like that, no matter if a player  consumes the content or not.

Now that I think about it, it's possible that these 'extra lines' are simply an introduction. These lines could be simple like: Liara: "Remember all the trouble we got into, taking out the old SB"
Shepard: "Tell me about it. The bombing on Illium, running across the outside of this ship..."

Result: New player now knows what happened in Lotsb. Goal accomplished.

[Kadzin]

Robhuzz wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, have anyone consider that, if you don't play LOTSB, Liara's might still become the Shadow Broker, but Feron might be dead?

Someone from BioWare already stated that Liara will always become SB, and Feron will be saved, even if you don't play the DLC, because it is optional content but part of the established story arc.

k. I'm trying to think of what changes happen for not doing it, since as Ali says, she's doing lines for people who never played it. Besides Shepard not being involved, I guess you're relationship with Liara is the only one that changes.

I'm pretty sure that Shepard is still the one who helped Liara, it's written in the story arc like that, no matter if a player  consumes the content or not.

Now that I think about it, it's possible that these 'extra lines' are simply an introduction. These lines could be simple like: Liara: "Remember all the trouble we got into, taking out the old SB"
Shepard: "Tell me about it. The bombing on Illium, running across the outside of this ship..."

Result: New player now knows what happened in Lotsb. Goal accomplished.

Liara: Shepard, remember when that one merc got stuck on the crates?
Shepard: Yeah he wouldn't stop yelling.
Result: Massive lols.
www.youtube.com/watch

[alex90c]

Robhuzz wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, have anyone consider that, if you don't play LOTSB, Liara's might still become the Shadow Broker, but Feron might be dead?

Someone from BioWare already stated that Liara will always become SB, and Feron will be saved, even if you don't play the DLC, because it is optional content but part of the established story arc.

k. I'm trying to think of what changes happen for not doing it, since as Ali says, she's doing lines for people who never played it. Besides Shepard not being involved, I guess you're relationship with Liara is the only one that changes.

I'm pretty sure that Shepard is still the one who helped Liara, it's written in the story arc like that, no matter if a player  consumes the content or not.

Now that I think about it, it's possible that these 'extra lines' are simply an introduction. These lines could be simple like: Liara: "Remember all the trouble we got into, taking out the old SB"
Shepard: "Tell me about it. The bombing on Illium, running across the outside of this ship..."

Result: New player now knows what happened in Lotsb. Goal accomplished.

I'm not sure that would work. I played ME2 first and a lot of the references to the first game kinda slipped past me since I wouldn't have known what they were talking about. If something like what you said happened, I can imagine Liara later on talking about the SB and the new player not having a clue because they weren't paying full attention to what she said earlier.

Mind you it's still probably the best solution regardless without it feeling too contrived.

[Robhuzz]

alex90c wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Now that I think about it, it's possible that these 'extra lines' are simply an introduction. These lines could be simple like: Liara: "Remember all the trouble we got into, taking out the old SB"
Shepard: "Tell me about it. The bombing on Illium, running across the outside of this ship..."

Result: New player now knows what happened in Lotsb. Goal accomplished.

I'm not sure that would work. I played ME2 first and a lot of the references to the first game kinda slipped past me since I wouldn't have known what they were talking about. If something like what you said happened, I can imagine Liara later on talking about the SB and the new player not having a clue because they weren't paying full attention to what she said earlier.

Mind you it's still probably the best solution regardless without it feeling too contrived.

The new player shouldn't be surprised. You start ME3 without ever having played ME1 and ME2. Congratulations, you just skipped 2/3 of the game, no wonder you're confused:P

The new people should be glad BioWare is actually trying to help them on their way, probably EA's idea in trying to maximize sales. I myself wouldn't put that much effort into it. Who in their right mind would start with the 3rd installment of a trilogy anyway, especially since ME1 and ME2 aren't so old that they're hopelessly outdated and therefore unplayable.

CD Project RED for example does no such thing. Try to play Witcher 2 without playing 1 and you have no idea what's actually going on. Dozens of terms from the previous game get thrown in your face and you're left wondering since it never really gets explained.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 06 septembre 2011 - 09:55 .