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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I can imagine squadmates having small personal missions (like in ME1). That might unlock extra dialog once completed. Helping Liara find Aethyta could be hers. 

How we will find Aethtya will most liely depend on whate state Illium is in. Is it preparing for the inevitiable attack? Or is Illium already under siege?

TOP!Liara

Modifié par Lizardviking, 08 septembre 2011 - 06:22 .

[Robhuzz]

ladyvader wrote...

I don't think it would be stupid to go to Illium to get Aethyta. To me it makes sense. Liara already lost her mother. I would think she would want to save her father even if she not 100% certain Aethyta is her father.

I can't think of another reason to go to Illium. Illium is a lot like Noveria. Controlled by corporations.  It's an asari colony, but not in asari space.

I was more wondering about whether Liara would actually want to meet Aethyta. They know nothing of one another and it seems Liara has all but closed this chapter of her life since it was replaced with the very adult Liara from ME2 and Lotsb.

[Korkki]

ladyvader wrote...

I don't think it would be stupid to go to Illium to get Aethyta. To me it makes sense. Liara already lost her mother. I would think she would want to save her father even if she not 100% certain Aethyta is her father.

I can't think of another reason to go to Illium. Illium is a lot like Noveria. Controlled by corporations.  It's an asari colony, but not in asari space.

Oh, don't get me wrong I support 100% Liara and Aethyta finally meeting each other but what I meant was that it would be funny that you'd come from other side of the galaxy just to save one person while the reapers are invading, like "damn, hey I'm sorry guys but can you keep these reaper things at bay for a minute. I have some things to take care of brb okay?". If you are already on Illium when you know that Aethyta is there or you have the time and the chance to go there, that's completely different thing. It just has to make sense thinking about the story. And I really hope that it'll happen.

Modifié par Korkki, 08 septembre 2011 - 06:30 .

[ladyvader]

Robhuzz wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

I don't think it would be stupid to go to Illium to get Aethyta. To me it makes sense. Liara already lost her mother. I would think she would want to save her father even if she not 100% certain Aethyta is her father.

I can't think of another reason to go to Illium. Illium is a lot like Noveria. Controlled by corporations.  It's an asari colony, but not in asari space.

I was more wondering about whether Liara would actually want to meet Aethyta. They know nothing of one another and it seems Liara has all but closed this chapter of her life since it was replaced with the very adult Liara from ME2 and Lotsb.

For some reason I think she does.  Or I would hope so anyway.  Why else would she have the video of Aethyta cued up for Shepard to see?  If she didn't really care, she wouldn't have bothered showing it to Shepard.  Or that is how I see it anyway.

[King Minos]

I would be ashamed if my child became a criminal and was a cold killer i would tell them to **** off and get out of my life, as much as i hate to say this, if my child has intentions to let innocent people get killed or kill them even, I will stop them. What is a Matriarch comparable to in human society? A noble? If word got out that Liara was a criminal, would this affect Aetheya's rep even more? She already got laughed at for suggesting to build mass relays.

[DoomBlackDragon]

Pinkflu wrote...

My first playthrough I didn't realise you could actually romance Liara. So when the conversation rolled around I accidently turned her down and went with Kaidan. Second play through I got it right, and havn't looked back. :] Cheated on Kaidan with Garrus on that save, have never been able to bring myself to cheat on Liara.

And yeah, Asari don't take their mate's DNA, they just use it to randomise their own. That's the idea, although there are hints in the game about there being some controversy among the Asari regarding the truth of that.

Thry make it more apparent that asari do take the dna from their mates with the Matriarch Bartender on illium . The fact she sounds like a krogan and does not have the same facial features that are comman on other asari. Lets not forget the asari who's father was a batarian on illium. She was very agressive and evil sounding when she talked about the drugs she was pushing. I think asria do get some dna from their partner but it not a 50/50 split. It more of a 75/25 split. So the kids will always be blue and mono gender. Not saying female as Liara gets very pissed off if you ask her about having an F/F relationship in femshepard play through in Mass Effect 1. So think BW is hinting for more of a M/H and F/H relationship with the asari.

[Korkki]

DoomBlackDragon wrote...

Pinkflu wrote...

My first playthrough I didn't realise you could actually romance Liara. So when the conversation rolled around I accidently turned her down and went with Kaidan. Second play through I got it right, and havn't looked back. :] Cheated on Kaidan with Garrus on that save, have never been able to bring myself to cheat on Liara.

And yeah, Asari don't take their mate's DNA, they just use it to randomise their own. That's the idea, although there are hints in the game about there being some controversy among the Asari regarding the truth of that.

Thry make it more apparent that asari do take the dna from their mates with the Matriarch Bartender on illium . The fact she sounds like a krogan and does not have the same facial features that are comman on other asari. Lets not forget the asari who's father was a batarian on illium. She was very agressive and evil sounding when she talked about the drugs she was pushing. I think asria do get some dna from their partner but it not a 50/50 split. It more of a 75/25 split. So the kids will always be blue and mono gender. Not saying female as Liara gets very pissed off if you ask her about having an F/F relationship in femshepard play through in Mass Effect 1. So think BW is hinting for more of a M/H and F/H relationship with the asari.

I always thought that the asari kids won't get any DNA from their father, it's just used to randomize mother's DNA. And about behaving like ones own father (Aethyta and that other asari) I think it's just more about how they were raised, their fathers were part of their upbringing. It's the same thing that if your father played football and you're playing football, you didn't inherit some football gene from your father, your father might have introduced you to that sport or you just happened to like it yourself.

Modifié par Korkki, 08 septembre 2011 - 07:05 .

[Robhuzz]

King Minos wrote...

I would be ashamed if my child became a criminal and was a cold killer i would tell them to **** off and get out of my life, as much as i hate to say this, if my child has intentions to let innocent people get killed or kill them even, I will stop them. What is a Matriarch comparable to in human society? A noble? If word got out that Liara was a criminal, would this affect Aetheya's rep even more? She already got laughed at for suggesting to build mass relays.

I wasn't aware that Liara was a criminal. Sure she has done a few questionable things during her two years on Illium as an information broker. Calling her a criminal however? That's too far.

[King Minos]

I had no idea that killing is a normal everyday act that the average citizen commits. Shepard is also a criminal, Liara has committed crimes, all squad members have. Treason, murder, criminal activities and the list goes on. Mass effect 1 does count as well, not just the two years Shepard has been dead. Even Tali is a criminal, if caught she could be prosecuted for association with Cerberus.

[ladyvader]

DoomBlackDragon wrote...

Pinkflu wrote...

My first playthrough I didn't realise you could actually romance Liara. So when the conversation rolled around I accidently turned her down and went with Kaidan. Second play through I got it right, and havn't looked back. :] Cheated on Kaidan with Garrus on that save, have never been able to bring myself to cheat on Liara.

And yeah, Asari don't take their mate's DNA, they just use it to randomise their own. That's the idea, although there are hints in the game about there being some controversy among the Asari regarding the truth of that.

Thry make it more apparent that asari do take the dna from their mates with the Matriarch Bartender on illium . The fact she sounds like a krogan and does not have the same facial features that are comman on other asari. Lets not forget the asari who's father was a batarian on illium. She was very agressive and evil sounding when she talked about the drugs she was pushing. I think asria do get some dna from their partner but it not a 50/50 split. It more of a 75/25 split. So the kids will always be blue and mono gender. Not saying female as Liara gets very pissed off if you ask her about having an F/F relationship in femshepard play through in Mass Effect 1. So think BW is hinting for more of a M/H and F/H relationship with the asari.

Liara didn't get pissed at that comment in ME1.  She just says 'she's not exactly a woman' to Kaidan.

[PMC65]

[quote]ladyvader wrote...

[/quote]I turn 44 next month and I was nine when Star Wars was first released in 1977(turned 10 that Oct.).  People are already ragging about the blu-ray version because Lucas is changing things again. 

People need to understand artist can always go back and look at older work and see how they can improve it.  So, I keep that in mind.  I don't care really.  It's Lucas' baby, he can do what he wants with it.  It's fans my age that are the most upset.  

To keep this sorta on topic.  Lets have some blue shall we.


[/quote]

Then, like me, you were there when Han shot first!

[Robhuzz]

King Minos wrote...

I had no idea that killing is a normal everyday act that the average citizen commits. Shepard is also a criminal, Liara has committed crimes, all squad members have. Treason, murder, criminal activities and the list goes on. Mass effect 1 does count as well, not just the two years Shepard has been dead. Even Tali is a criminal, if caught she could be prosecuted for association with Cerberus.

Define 'criminal'. And as far as I know, my Shepard hasn't killed innocent people apart from those 300.000 batarians in Arrival. Which were necessary. I still fail to see how Liara is a criminal as well...

The treason charge was actually rediculous. At the point of Shep's death, he was no longer in the alliance and no longer in the spectres. He has no official allegiance to either group when he's resurrected and as such can't be a traitor...

Then, like me, you were there when Han shot first! 

I never saw that version... I only saw the one in which both shot at the same time.<_<

Modifié par Robhuzz, 08 septembre 2011 - 07:23 .

[ladyvader]

PMC65 wrote...
Then, like me, you were there when Han shot first!

Yes, I was.

I would not call either Shepard or Liara or Tali since she was mentioned, as criminals.  My Shepard goes out of her way to help innocents.  Look at the paragon reaction to Vasir's comment right before she dies.

If Shepard was really a criminal, Shepard would not have been walking around the Citadel.  S/he would have been arrested the moment the Normandy docked and everyone on board would have been taken in.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

King Minos wrote...

I had no idea that killing is a normal everyday act that the average citizen commits. Shepard is also a criminal, Liara has committed crimes, all squad members have. Treason, murder, criminal activities and the list goes on. Mass effect 1 does count as well, not just the two years Shepard has been dead. Even Tali is a criminal, if caught she could be prosecuted for association with Cerberus.

Liara a criminal? Yeah, she has done questionable things. But she is not a criminal in the sense she is doing everything out of some selfish viewpoint. She is the SB because it can help stop the Reapers.

And how does ME1 count exactly? Pretty sure all the kills there are done in self-defence.

And who gives a damn what those idiots on the Council and in the Alliance think?

[Pockles]

PMC65 wrote...
Then, like me, you were there when Han shot first!

"Han shot first" implies that Greedo also shot at Han. Originally, Greedo was dead before he could return fire at all. So that statement is inaccurate.

Robhuzz wrote...

Define 'criminal'.

"An action or an instance of negligence that is deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state and that is legally prohibited."

I consider Liara and Shepard to be criminals. The thing is, being a criminal and being a bad person are not mutually exclusive.

Modifié par Pockles, 08 septembre 2011 - 07:36 .

[King Minos]

Criminal is someone who commited a crime, a crime is a breach of the law. I am pretty sure murder is a break of the law, the asari greeter on Illium even states this. And surprise surprise! Liara kills! Rob a sweet no matter how small it is, it's a breach of the law and your a criminal, threats of assault or murder is a criminal offence. Association with Cerberus, a terrorist in citadel space, the Asari councillor herself said that it is treason. Don't hide it, liara is a criminal, along with Anderson, Tali, Shepard, Joker and pretty much every bugger who happens to work with Shepard.

[ladyvader]

Pockles wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
Then, like me, you were there when Han shot first!

"Han shot first" implies that Greedo also shot at Han. Originally, Greedo was dead before he could return fire at all. So that statement is inaccurate.

Greedo did take a shot and it went over Han's head right before he died. 

[PMC65]

Korkki wrote...

I always thought that the asari kids won't get any DNA from their father, it's just used to randomize mother's DNA. And about behaving like ones own father (Aethyta and that other asari) I think it's just more about how they were raised, their fathers were part of their upbringing. It's the same thing that if your father played football and you're playing football, you didn't inherit some football gene from your father, your father might have introduced you to that sport or you just happened to like it yourself.

The "blue rose" asari is pretty clear about it as well as Liara. To me it adds that extra layer that if your Shepard wanted kids that were truly part of him/her (has their features, genes, etc) then Shepard would need to look at alternatives. 

I think that if you have a Shepard that wanted his/her own kids Liara would be 100% supportive because she understands better than Shepard how her children would be 'hers". That does not seem odd to her the way it does to humans.

I don't have a problem with that part of the asaris. I think my Shepard and Liara would work all that stuff out if it ever came up.

[King Minos]

Liars may be the love child of Bioware and the love interest of every one in this thread,'Liaa has commited acts that breach certain laws on several worlds, Omega doesn't count as that is lawless, well the entire traverse doesn't count.

[ladyvader]

King Minos wrote...

Criminal is someone who commited a crime, a crime is a breach of the law. I am pretty sure murder is a break of the law, the asari greeter on Illium even states this. And surprise surprise! Liara kills! Rob a sweet no matter how small it is, it's a breach of the law and your a criminal, threats of assault or murder is a criminal offence. Association with Cerberus, a terrorist in citadel space, the Asari councillor herself said that it is treason. Don't hide it, liara is a criminal, along with Anderson, Tali, Shepard, Joker and pretty much every bugger who happens to work with Shepard.

Please tell us who Liara has killed that makes her a murderer?  Same with Shepard?

You seem to forget.  Illium is not in either Asari or Counsil space.  It is the Terminus.

Modifié par ladyvader, 08 septembre 2011 - 07:36 .

[Jakedee010v2]

PMC65 wrote...

Korkki wrote...

I always thought that the asari kids won't get any DNA from their father, it's just used to randomize mother's DNA. And about behaving like ones own father (Aethyta and that other asari) I think it's just more about how they were raised, their fathers were part of their upbringing. It's the same thing that if your father played football and you're playing football, you didn't inherit some football gene from your father, your father might have introduced you to that sport or you just happened to like it yourself.

The "blue rose" asari is pretty clear about it as well as Liara. To me it adds that extra layer that if your Shepard wanted kids that were truly part of him/her (has their features, genes, etc) then Shepard would need to look at alternatives. 

I think that if you have a Shepard that wanted his/her own kids Liara would be 100% supportive because she understands better than Shepard how her children would be 'hers". That does not seem odd to her the way it does to humans.

I don't have a problem with that part of the asaris. I think my Shepard and Liara would work all that stuff out if it ever came up.

I support this post. I find the Asari normal. Is that werd?

[ladyvader]

PMC65 wrote...

Korkki wrote...

I always thought that the asari kids won't get any DNA from their father, it's just used to randomize mother's DNA. And about behaving like ones own father (Aethyta and that other asari) I think it's just more about how they were raised, their fathers were part of their upbringing. It's the same thing that if your father played football and you're playing football, you didn't inherit some football gene from your father, your father might have introduced you to that sport or you just happened to like it yourself.

The "blue rose" asari is pretty clear about it as well as Liara. To me it adds that extra layer that if your Shepard wanted kids that were truly part of him/her (has their features, genes, etc) then Shepard would need to look at alternatives. 

I think that if you have a Shepard that wanted his/her own kids Liara would be 100% supportive because she understands better than Shepard how her children would be 'hers". That does not seem odd to her the way it does to humans.

I don't have a problem with that part of the asaris. I think my Shepard and Liara would work all that stuff out if it ever came up.

Shepard seems to understand that.  Marriage, old age, and a lot of blue children. 

[Pockles]

ladyvader wrote...

Pockles wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
Then, like me, you were there when Han shot first!

"Han shot first" implies that Greedo also shot at Han. Originally, Greedo was dead before he could return fire at all. So that statement is inaccurate.

Greedo did take a shot and it went over Han's head right before he died. 

In the original version? I don't recall that.