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[ladyvader]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Kadzin wrote...

King Minos wrote...

Destroying the shadow broker base is like nuking thessia, earth, rakhanna, tuchanka (what's left of it), salarian home world and the hanar home world. The SB base has information on everything and is one of our greatest weapons. The SB base can easily be used to get information and unite the galaxy, stop civil or potential wars, notify the council on planets with huge amount of resources and atleast full view of the known galaxy, when the reapers enter, the SB will know it straight away and can warn planets and send out possible tactics to each species. SB may be our only hope of survival if you think about it.

Actually I think that is exactly why Bioware would probably get rid of it asap.
It's too valuable, too much of advantage for Shepard, also a reason to get Liara on the Normandy.
Like I said, my bet is that it will get either attacked by Cerberus or attacked by Reapers, resulting in it's destruction and the end of the SB network.

If I was making Mass Effect 3 that would be how the game begins, with the Reapers destroying the SB's base and the apparent killing of the LI, or at least that is Shepard believes.  

That makes no sense though.  Especially if you take into account where in the galaxy the Reapers are starting from .  Bottom of the galaxy map.  Hagazlas is closer to the top of the map.  If anyone at the beginning of the game is going to take out the SB base, it will be Cerberus.  TIM is after Shepard, he knows Liara is the SB plus he knows where the base is.  This is why I think that.



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Modifié par ladyvader, 09 septembre 2011 - 03:02 .

[JKFerg]

Just a thought but since the SB base is a huge advanced ship couldn't it be another ship that could potentially be used in a fleet against the reapers? I don't think we know anything about the fighting capabilities of the ship but I kind of doubt we will be in a position to turn any help away.

Modifié par JKFerg, 09 septembre 2011 - 03:08 .

[Ophiskc]

JKFerg wrote...

Just a thought but since the SB base is a huge advanced ship couldn't it be another ship that could potentially be used in a fleet against the reapers? I don't think we know anything about the fighting capabilities of the ship but I kind of doubt we will be in a position to turn any help away.

I dont believe that ship was made to fight or to move fast, but more for hiding and resisting the electrical storm

[Korkki]

ladyvader wrote...

That makes no sense though.  Especially if you take into account where in the galaxy the Reapers are starting from . Bottom of the galaxy map.  Hagazlas is closer to the top of the map.  If anyone at the beginning of the game is going to take out the SB base, it will be Cerberus.  TIM is after Shepard, he knows Liara is the SB plus he knows where the base is.  This is why I think that.

That is a very likely scenario. Using Shepard's feelings for Liara even if they are only friends, would be a good way to get Shepard (or try to get him/her). And of course capturing or at least destroying SB base would be a really good move for Cerberus if you just think that huge ammount of information that base has plus all those contacts or course. So by attacking SB base they could get their hands on all that information or at least make sure no one else can have it. Plus there isn't really other reasons why Liara would leave SB base if it's not being attacked. Or at least I can't think any other reason.

[Kadzin]

Ophiskc wrote...

JKFerg wrote...

Just a thought but since the SB base is a huge advanced ship couldn't it be another ship that could potentially be used in a fleet against the reapers? I don't think we know anything about the fighting capabilities of the ship but I kind of doubt we will be in a position to turn any help away.

I dont believe that ship was made to fight or to move fast, but more for hiding and resisting the electrical storm

Yeah the shuttle flew over to it no problem so I doubt it would be of any use in a real firefight.
PLUS I think it was only designed to fly in the storm and that's it.

[Robhuzz]

Ophiskc wrote...

JKFerg wrote...

Just a thought but since the SB base is a huge advanced ship couldn't it be another ship that could potentially be used in a fleet against the reapers? I don't think we know anything about the fighting capabilities of the ship but I kind of doubt we will be in a position to turn any help away.

I dont believe that ship was made to fight or to move fast, but more for hiding and resisting the electrical storm

Indeed, judging from all the systems mounted on the hull and the rather special engine, the ship was built specifically to remain on planet Hagalaz. Also it doesn't seem to have any external defences or weapons so I doubt it'll do well in a fight.

[Ophiskc]

Korkki wrote...

That is a very likely scenario. Using Shepard's feelings for Liara even if they are only friends, would be a good way to get Shepard (or try to get him/her). And of course capturing or at least destroying SB base would be a really good move for Cerberus if you just think that huge ammount of information that base has plus all those contacts or course. So by attacking SB base they could get their hands on all that information or at least make sure no one else can have it. Plus there isn't really other reasons why Liara would leave SB base if it's not being attacked. Or at least I can't think any other reason.

I have the feeling Cerberus goal will be to take over the ship and secure all that network for themselves, if they're really working for the reapers, that would give them incredible intel about the other races plans and every move.
Liara, not having other choice, would destroy the base herself to prevent that to happen, shutting down the storm protection systems or with a self destruction device.

Modifié par Ophiskc, 09 septembre 2011 - 03:35 .

[Jakedee010v2]

Robhuzz wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

JKFerg wrote...

Just a thought but since the SB base is a huge advanced ship couldn't it be another ship that could potentially be used in a fleet against the reapers? I don't think we know anything about the fighting capabilities of the ship but I kind of doubt we will be in a position to turn any help away.

I dont believe that ship was made to fight or to move fast, but more for hiding and resisting the electrical storm

Indeed, judging from all the systems mounted on the hull and the rather special engine, the ship was built specifically to remain on planet Hagalaz. Also it doesn't seem to have any external defences or weapons so I doubt it'll do well in a fight.

It's barely classed a 'ship'. More like an extremely large hovercraft, or something along those lines. I doubt it would be of much use outside the planet's atmosphere.

[Robhuzz]

Ophiskc wrote...

Korkki wrote...

That is a very likely scenario. Using Shepard's feelings for Liara even if they are only friends, would be a good way to get Shepard (or try to get him/her). And of course capturing or at least destroying SB base would be a really good move for Cerberus if you just think that huge ammount of information that base has plus all those contacts or course. So by attacking SB base they could get their hands on all that information or at least make sure no one else can have it. Plus there isn't really other reasons why Liara would leave SB base if it's not being attacked. Or at least I can't think any other reason.

I have the feeling Cerberus goal will be to take over the ship and secure all that network for themselves, if they're really working for the reapers, that would give them incredible intel about the other races plans and every move.
Liara, not having other choice, would destroy the base herself to prevent that to happen, shutting down the storm protection systems or with a self destruction device.

Might be best to delete the archives first. Data that could start a galactic war definitely should be kept away from Cerberus. After that, switch off the engines and the ship will crash planetside.

[ladyvader]

Robhuzz wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

Korkki wrote...

That is a very likely scenario. Using Shepard's feelings for Liara even if they are only friends, would be a good way to get Shepard (or try to get him/her). And of course capturing or at least destroying SB base would be a really good move for Cerberus if you just think that huge ammount of information that base has plus all those contacts or course. So by attacking SB base they could get their hands on all that information or at least make sure no one else can have it. Plus there isn't really other reasons why Liara would leave SB base if it's not being attacked. Or at least I can't think any other reason.

I have the feeling Cerberus goal will be to take over the ship and secure all that network for themselves, if they're really working for the reapers, that would give them incredible intel about the other races plans and every move.
Liara, not having other choice, would destroy the base herself to prevent that to happen, shutting down the storm protection systems or with a self destruction device.

Might be best to delete the archives first. Data that could start a galactic war definitely should be kept away from Cerberus. After that, switch off the engines and the ship will crash planetside.

I would hope that Liara kept some of the intel to use in the future if she was to continue to work as an information broker once the Reaper threat is gone.

My Shepard would not want Cerberus to have the base.  Once Liara/Feron(if he is still there) are safely aboard the Normandy, use the Normandy guns to destroy the base.  I'd rather do that than allow Cerberus to have it.  

[Robhuzz]

I have no idea how badly BioWare wants to put some drama into ME3 but if that's what they want, they could pull off something different. Liara has something she needs doing, doesn't matter what right now. So Shep goes to Hagalaz to pick her up, leaving the SB network in Feron's hands for now. After the mission, the team goes back to Hagalaz to (sadly) drop off Liara only to be attacked by a cerberus ship. When they get closer, EDI extracts some data from the base and a security vid that shows a Cerberus goon assasinating Feron. Shep now has a choice: 1. Attempt to retake the base or 2. Quickly have EDI extract the data Liara was working on earlier and use the Normandy to blow up the base.

Worth mentioning that even when option 1 is taken, the base appears salvageable and needs to be destroyed. Unlike option 2 however, no data is extracted from the database.

Either option would accomplish my goal: To get Liara away from that ship for good...

[Korkki]

ladyvader wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

Korkki wrote...

That is a very likely scenario. Using Shepard's feelings for Liara even if they are only friends, would be a good way to get Shepard (or try to get him/her). And of course capturing or at least destroying SB base would be a really good move for Cerberus if you just think that huge ammount of information that base has plus all those contacts or course. So by attacking SB base they could get their hands on all that information or at least make sure no one else can have it. Plus there isn't really other reasons why Liara would leave SB base if it's not being attacked. Or at least I can't think any other reason.

I have the feeling Cerberus goal will be to take over the ship and secure all that network for themselves, if they're really working for the reapers, that would give them incredible intel about the other races plans and every move.
Liara, not having other choice, would destroy the base herself to prevent that to happen, shutting down the storm protection systems or with a self destruction device.

Might be best to delete the archives first. Data that could start a galactic war definitely should be kept away from Cerberus. After that, switch off the engines and the ship will crash planetside.

I would hope that Liara kept some of the intel to use in the future if she was to continue to work as an information broker once the Reaper threat is gone.

My Shepard would not want Cerberus to have the base.  Once Liara/Feron(if he is still there) are safely aboard the Normandy, use the Normandy guns to destroy the base.  I'd rather do that than allow Cerberus to have it.  

Well if I've understood correctly, that anti-reaper tech will be achieved through Liara, so assuming that SB base will be destroyed, I think she'll be able to save some important information or then she has already made backups of vital information which makes manufacturing that anti-reaper tech possible. So maybe there is something Liara can use after the reapers are dealt with as well.

[ladyvader]

Robhuzz wrote...

I have no idea how badly BioWare wants to put some drama into ME3 but if that's what they want, they could pull off something different. Liara has something she needs doing, doesn't matter what right now. So Shep goes to Hagalaz to pick her up, leaving the SB network in Feron's hands for now. After the mission, the team goes back to Hagalaz to (sadly) drop off Liara only to be attacked by a cerberus ship. When they get closer, EDI extracts some data from the base and a security vid that shows a Cerberus goon assasinating Feron. Shep now has a choice: 1. Attempt to retake the base or 2. Quickly have EDI extract the data Liara was working on earlier and use the Normandy to blow up the base.

Worth mentioning that even when option 1 is taken, the base appears salvageable and needs to be destroyed. Unlike option 2 however, no data is extracted from the database.

Either option would accomplish my goal: To get Liara away from that ship for good...

I  would want option 2.  Get the data needed, but blow that sucker up.  I am like you, Robhuzz.  I don't want Liara to be the SB after the war is over.  I have a hard time seeing Shepard and Liara settling down there and raise a family.  

[Ophiskc]

ladyvader wrote...

I  would want option 2.  Get the data needed, but blow that sucker up.  I am like you, Robhuzz.  I don't want Liara to be the SB after the war is over.  I have a hard time seeing Shepard and Liara settling down there and raise a family.  

Well, at least the ship has windows

I wonder if Liara want to have children herself, we assume she does, but maybe is not such an appealing idea for her after all

[robtheguru]

Ophiskc wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

I  would want option 2.  Get the data needed, but blow that sucker up.  I am like you, Robhuzz.  I don't want Liara to be the SB after the war is over.  I have a hard time seeing Shepard and Liara settling down there and raise a family.  

Well, at least the ship has windows

I wonder if Liara want to have children herself, we assume she does, but maybe is not such an appealing idea for her after all

She'll want kids. They'll be reminders of the greatest love to have ever existed lol

[ladyvader]

Ophiskc wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

I  would want option 2.  Get the data needed, but blow that sucker up.  I am like you, Robhuzz.  I don't want Liara to be the SB after the war is over.  I have a hard time seeing Shepard and Liara settling down there and raise a family.  

Well, at least the ship has windows

I wonder if Liara want to have children herself, we assume she does, but maybe is not such an appealing idea for her after all

The reaction she gave Shepard when Shepard says, "Marriage, old age, and lots of blue children." didn't seem to me that she didn't want to have any kids with Shepard.  She just gives Shepard a playful push and says "You just say these things."  My Shepard was serious about it.  Not sure about other Shepards though.  

[Wulfram]

It does seem like quite a lot to expect her to skip 250 years of maidenly fun and get on with the baby making.

[ladyvader]

Wulfram wrote...

It does seem like quite a lot to expect her to skip 250 years of maidenly fun and get on with the baby making.

That is just an average.  Liara is already more mature than most asari her age.  It wouldn't be a surprise to me if she hit her matron stage early.  Every asari is different.  Some don't adventure during their maiden years, they will stay close to home.  Some matrons would rather work than start a family.  

[Ophiskc]

Wulfram wrote...

It does seem like quite a lot to expect her to skip 250 years of maidenly fun and get on with the baby making.

I'm not so sure if what she has been doing in her maiden years so far could be called "fun"

[JKFerg]

Ophiskc wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

It does seem like quite a lot to expect her to skip 250 years of maidenly fun and get on with the baby making.

I'm not so sure if what she has been doing in her maiden years so far could be called "fun"

Well she did meet Shepard.......and there was that night before Ilos.......

[Robhuzz]

Ophiskc wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

I  would want option 2.  Get the data needed, but blow that sucker up.  I am like you, Robhuzz.  I don't want Liara to be the SB after the war is over.  I have a hard time seeing Shepard and Liara settling down there and raise a family.  

Well, at least the ship has windows

I wonder if Liara want to have children herself, we assume she does, but maybe is not such an appealing idea for her after all

Liara, although being 'only' 108 years old during ME2 (109 by the end of ME3 I think) is not a typical maidan Asari. Most Asari only want to settle down and have kids when they enter the matron stage at approx. 350 years old. I do not think Liara, despite being so different, will reach the matron stage for quite a while so I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't want kids for now. I'm perfectly fine with no kids actually. As long as Shep/Liara can spend some proper quality time together after beating the Reapers, I'm happy.

Secretly I'm also holding on to the whole 'Shepard's life is being sustained by technology and as such he might become rediculously old for a human due to his body aging much slower than ordinary people so it's very likely that he's still alive when Liara reaches 250 years in age. - Like ladyvader said, she'll probably reach this stage faster than normal, though not at the age of 110. 250 seems realistic to me - By that time Liara will probably have reached the matron stage and actually wants to have kids...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 09 septembre 2011 - 05:23 .

[ladyvader]

Robhuzz wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

I  would want option 2.  Get the data needed, but blow that sucker up.  I am like you, Robhuzz.  I don't want Liara to be the SB after the war is over.  I have a hard time seeing Shepard and Liara settling down there and raise a family.  

Well, at least the ship has windows

I wonder if Liara want to have children herself, we assume she does, but maybe is not such an appealing idea for her after all

Liara, although being 'only' 108 years old during ME2 (109 by the end of ME3 I think) is not a typical maidan Asari. Most Asari only want to settle down and have kids when they enter the matron stage at approx. 350 years old. I do not think Liara, despite being so different, will reach the matron stage for quite a while so I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't want kids for now. I'm perfectly fine with no kids actually. As long as Shep/Liara can spend some proper quality time together after beating the Reapers, I'm happy.

Secretly I'm also holding on to the whole 'Shepard's life is being sustained by technology and as such he might become rediculously old for a human due to his body aging much slower than ordinary people so it's very likely that he's still alive when Liara reaches 250 years in age. - Like ladyvader said, she'll probably reach this stage faster than normal, though not at the age of 110. 250 seems realistic to me - By that time Liara will probably have reached the matron stage and actually wants to have kids...

I've yet to see anywhere were the matron stage is where they can start having kids.  It's just when they want to start a family. 

[pf17456]

Well I'd love to see the marriage/ blue children option avialable as a reward for having remained faithful throughout the three installments.
Considering Galactic civilization will likely have been devastated after the Reapers are through repopulation may very well be a worthy cause.
Not sure though how many would choose that as an option

[Korkki]

ladyvader wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

I  would want option 2.  Get the data needed, but blow that sucker up.  I am like you, Robhuzz.  I don't want Liara to be the SB after the war is over.  I have a hard time seeing Shepard and Liara settling down there and raise a family.  

Well, at least the ship has windows

I wonder if Liara want to have children herself, we assume she does, but maybe is not such an appealing idea for her after all

Liara, although being 'only' 108 years old during ME2 (109 by the end of ME3 I think) is not a typical maidan Asari. Most Asari only want to settle down and have kids when they enter the matron stage at approx. 350 years old. I do not think Liara, despite being so different, will reach the matron stage for quite a while so I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't want kids for now. I'm perfectly fine with no kids actually. As long as Shep/Liara can spend some proper quality time together after beating the Reapers, I'm happy.

Secretly I'm also holding on to the whole 'Shepard's life is being sustained by technology and as such he might become rediculously old for a human due to his body aging much slower than ordinary people so it's very likely that he's still alive when Liara reaches 250 years in age. - Like ladyvader said, she'll probably reach this stage faster than normal, though not at the age of 110. 250 seems realistic to me - By that time Liara will probably have reached the matron stage and actually wants to have kids...

I've yet to see anywhere were the matron stage is where they can start having kids.  It's just when they want to start a family. 

That is actually pretty interesting I mean they always just say that the asari have kids and raise a family when they reach the matron stage. So is it that they can't have kids before they reach the matron stage or is it just that they don't usually want to have kids before the matron stage.  They are grown ups when they hit the age of 60 or something right? So if you are a grown up you should be able to have kids, so basicly Liara could be able to have kids even she's not a matron herself or what do you guys think?

[ladyvader]

Korkki wrote...

That is actually pretty interesting I mean they always just say that the asari have kids and raise a family when they reach the matron stage. So is it that they can't have kids before they reach the matron stage or is it just that they don't usually want to have kids before the matron stage.  They are grown ups when they hit the age of 60 or something right? So if you are a grown up you should be able to have kids, so basicly Liara could be able to have kids even she's not a matron herself or what do you guys think?

That is what I think anyway.  It also says they will hit matron stage early if they meld a lot and my Shepard and Liara are going to be melding often. 

We all know humans can have children before they reach adulthood.  We don't know how that works with the asari, but it seems they hit their sexual maturity at about 40.  If I understood correctly what Samara was saying when she was talking about Mornith.