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ladyvader wrote...

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Sorry for being off topic, but what's a paragade and renegon?

Those that don't max out either meter and are mostly grey characters.  They will usually go a little higher in paragon or renegade, but have a liberal mix of the other.  I asked that same question on this thread many pages ago.   You totally get gimped doing it, because you won't be able to use the higher paragon/renegade actions.  I don't know if I'll be able to defuse the Tali/Legion argument.


I actually had a Pargade who was able to pass both Miranda/Jack and Tali/Legion checks.  She was 100% paragon and 50% renegade.  I doubt I could ever repeat it, but it can happen.  Anyway ... Liara

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JamieCOTC wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

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Sorry for being off topic, but what's a paragade and renegon?

Those that don't max out either meter and are mostly grey characters.  They will usually go a little higher in paragon or renegade, but have a liberal mix of the other.  I asked that same question on this thread many pages ago.   You totally get gimped doing it, because you won't be able to use the higher paragon/renegade actions.  I don't know if I'll be able to defuse the Tali/Legion argument.


I actually had a Pargaon who was able to pass both Miranda/Jack and Tali/Legion checks.  She was 100% paragon and 50% renegade.  I doubt I could ever repeat it, but it can happen.  Anyway ... Liara

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I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full.  Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split.  Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more.  I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon.  It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon.  Oops, it wasn't what I though.  Oh well. 

Enough about that.

Guess I'm off to hope that angry femShep has calmed down yet.  LOL.   Poor Liara.  Ladyvader says she's sorry for this Shepard's actions and her being an ass to you.  Hopefully, she'll calm down once she rids the Normandy of those Cerberus folks.  B)
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ladyvader wrote...
Those that don't max out either meter and are mostly grey characters.  They will usually go a little higher in paragon or renegade, but have a liberal mix of the other.  I asked that same question on this thread many pages ago.   You totally get gimped doing it, because you won't be able to use the higher paragon/renegade actions.  I don't know if I'll be able to defuse the Tali/Legion argument.


That's what save editors are for.;)

The games are much more enjoyable when you don't have to worry about paragon/renegade scores. No limits to how you want to play your character.

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Pockles wrote...

ladyvader wrote...
Those that don't max out either meter and are mostly grey characters.  They will usually go a little higher in paragon or renegade, but have a liberal mix of the other.  I asked that same question on this thread many pages ago.   You totally get gimped doing it, because you won't be able to use the higher paragon/renegade actions.  I don't know if I'll be able to defuse the Tali/Legion argument.


That's what save editors are for.;)

The games are much more enjoyable when you don't have to worry about paragon/renegade scores. No limits to how you want to play your character.

I play on Xbox and no way in hell am I doing anything to get my console banned.  Modding games will get you banned.  No thanks.  I have one playthrough on PC and that is it.  I am too much of a wuss to mod.  

I want the challange too.  It forces me to pick sides if I don't have the points needed to defuse the issue.  I don't care about Miranda with this Shep, so there won't be an fight between her and Jack because I'm not doing Jacob's nor Miranda's LM.  They along with every other Cerberus personal on the Normandy outside of Chakwas won't survive.  Sorry Doc. 

And this Shep is still annoyed with Joker too.  *mumbles something about not following orders to evactuate when that order was given*

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I mean they had Marina Sirtis as Benezia (Troi) and in DA:O and DA2 they had Captain Janeway as Flemeth. Maybe the bioware peeps just love Star Trek?

I don't play DA but I would recognize Mulgrew's voice, I've the Mosaic audio-book and her pitch is very distinct. Sirtis though, her voice is so calm/melodic, I would never figure she did Benezia...
I guess BW needed scifi veterans for ME, also, it added value to the game as the fans enjoy scifi :)
@Indigo, the first is from Redemption.1.

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ladyvader wrote...
I play on Xbox and no way in hell am I doing anything to get my console banned.  Modding games will get you banned.  No thanks.  I have one playthrough on PC and that is it.  I am too much of a wuss to mod.


Awwww. That's adorable.

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I want the challange too.  It forces me to pick sides if I don't have the points needed to defuse the issue.


No point in being forced to pick sides if the argument is stupid.

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karmensandiego wrote...
I mean they had Marina Sirtis as Benezia (Troi) and in DA:O and DA2 they had Captain Janeway as Flemeth. Maybe the bioware peeps just love Star Trek?

I don't play DA but I would recognize Mulgrew's voice, I've the Mosaic audio-book and her pitch is very distinct. Sirtis though, her voice is so calm/melodic, I would never figure she did Benezia...
I guess BW needed scifi veterans for ME, also, it added value to the game as the fans enjoy scifi :)
@Indigo, the first is from Redemption.1.

Hackett is voiced by Bishop from Aliens.  Not sure what Sci-fi movie David Keith as done.  I know he was in Platoon.  Been a fan of his since that movie too.

It's also the cover for the trade paperback of the comic too.  I'm tempted to take it with me to EXP Con and have Ali Hillis sign it.  My pass gets me through lines quicker, so I'm hoping to not stand in one line for hours and have to do it again for Hale and Meer.  Too bad I don't have anything with femShep for Hale to sign.  Might take my copy of ME2 for Meer. Or ME1.  Or both..:bandit:

Plus I'm not sure which day they will be there yet.  Would be nice if all three where there the same day, but for some reason I doubt it.

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karmensandiego wrote...

Here, have some Liara goodness!

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Liara liked Shepard, before it was cool. ;)

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ladyvader wrote...

Dead Hippie wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

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I'm one of those werid people who actually prefers Mark's VO then Jennifer's.
Part of the reason why I couldn't go through a single femshep playthrough is because it just didn't click with me.


Same here.
I guess I'm one of those "weird people" too.



ladyvader wrote...

I don't think Earthborn Shepard's give a crap what her/his parents think. I don't even know if that Shepard actually has parents. I thought only a Spacer Shepard had parents. If Earthborn Shep is running with gangs, I doubt the parents give a crap about Shep to begin with. So would it matter if that Shep was with an asari and why would that Shep care? It seems to me Shep's parents didn't care enough to stop their kid from running with gangs.

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Just to clarify, ladyvader, Earthborn Shepard (my Shepard) grew up as an orphan - having absolutely no idea who his/her (in my case - his) parents are.

I went to the Wikia to see how it was phrased. It just says grew up in gangs. Nothing about parents, so I just assumed there could be parents and they didn't give a flip. I know colonist lost their parents at 16 by batarian slavers on Mindoir. Spacer Shepard has mom, Hannah. No mention on dad. I wasn't 100% sure on who it was phrased for the Earthborn. Parents or no parents. It seems Earthborn Shep had a rough childhood and ran in gangs.


When Shepard talks to Ashley (right after overhearing Ashley's sister mention that Shepard is cute) and Ashley mentions her parents - Shepard says that he never knew his parents and that he grew up as an orphan on the streets.

I never played Earthborn that much. Probably because I don't play as a renegade much. Probably why I never really knew about the parents.


Correction:
You will hear Shepard say he was a orphan during the second conversation with Ashley (the conversation where she's "concerned about the aliens".)
When you get the chance to "Investigate" (after Ashley mentions that members of her family serviced the Alliance since it was founded):
- choose "Investigate" and you'll be given two options ("Your Service" and "Military Family")
- choose "Military Family" and Shepard will say "I never knew my family. Grew up as an orphan on Earth. Anybody in your family I'd have heard of?"


Oh and my Shepard is (for the most part) Paragon in all of the playthrough (I just can't play as ruthless Renegade).
For my Shepard, his background is this:

Being an orphan, having no idea who his parents are, Shepard had to quickly develop "street smarts" and connections in order to survive in the concrete jungles (cities) of Earth. The need to survive made Shepard do things that he knew were wrong (such as running around with that gang - The Tenth Street Reds). Wanting to make a difference, Shepard signed up with the Alliance - vowing never again to surround himself with xenophobic, low-life scum (like the members of the Tenth Street Reds, or (racist) Turians who cannot stand humans, etc.).
While in the Alliance, Shepard has developed a reputation of being a Hero, by single-handedly defeating enemy forces, during the Skyllian Blitz on Elysium, when there was a breach in the defences of the colony. Shepard risked his own life, because he believes in helping and protecting the innocent and downtrodden (since Shepard, himself, had such a rough young life - he doesn't want to see anybody suffer the way he suffered).



And, LadyVader, have fun at that convention.
(Sorry, I can't remember when you said you were going.)

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Here, have some Liara goodness!

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Liara liked Shepard, before it was cool. ;)

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Oh  man, I literally just noticed the visual correlation between these two images.


Nice catch. But while Redemption version looks good. Liara looks chubby and derp-ish in LOTSB version.

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I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full. Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split. Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more. I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon. It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon. Oops, it wasn't what I though. Oh well.


Just don't measure paragon/renegade in percentage of a bar filled when talking about paragade and renagon. Simply put, a paragade is mostly paragon but has a touch of genegade-ness in him, for a renagon it's reversed. Doesn't matter how full my bars are. A paragon who uses several purely renegade options during the game is a paragade in my book.

Anyway, back to the topic of Liara.

A new dev promise was added: Dead romances from ME2 will not be ignored. So let's pretend you cheated on Liara (ridiculous idea I know but still...) with a random LI and said person died in the SM. What do you suppose Liara would say in ME3? Shepard did still cheat on her so she's got a right to be angry. On the other side, she can't force Shepard to choose unless Shepard has a touch of necrophilia but no... that's no option thankfully. So what would Liara say in this case?

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Robhuzz wrote...

I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full. Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split. Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more. I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon. It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon. Oops, it wasn't what I though. Oh well.


Just don't measure paragon/renegade in percentage of a bar filled when talking about paragade and renagon. Simply put, a paragade is mostly paragon but has a touch of genegade-ness in him, for a renagon it's reversed. Doesn't matter how full my bars are. A paragon who uses several purely renegade options during the game is a paragade in my book.

Anyway, back to the topic of Liara.

A new dev promise was added: Dead romances from ME2 will not be ignored. So let's pretend you cheated on Liara (ridiculous idea I know but still...) with a random LI and said person died in the SM. What do you suppose Liara would say in ME3? Shepard did still cheat on her so she's got a right to be angry. On the other side, she can't force Shepard to choose unless Shepard has a touch of necrophilia but no... that's no option thankfully. So what would Liara say in this case?


I'm kinda hoping she'd just put her foot down and say "sorry Shepard, you blew it", and no amount of paragon persuasion will work on her, besides to maintain a cordial friendship.

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Robhuzz wrote...

I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full. Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split. Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more. I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon. It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon. Oops, it wasn't what I though. Oh well.


Just don't measure paragon/renegade in percentage of a bar filled when talking about paragade and renagon. Simply put, a paragade is mostly paragon but has a touch of genegade-ness in him, for a renagon it's reversed. Doesn't matter how full my bars are. A paragon who uses several purely renegade options during the game is a paragade in my book.

Anyway, back to the topic of Liara.

A new dev promise was added: Dead romances from ME2 will not be ignored. So let's pretend you cheated on Liara (ridiculous idea I know but still...) with a random LI and said person died in the SM. What do you suppose Liara would say in ME3? Shepard did still cheat on her so she's got a right to be angry. On the other side, she can't force Shepard to choose unless Shepard has a touch of necrophilia but no... that's no option thankfully. So what would Liara say in this case?


Well, I don't think Liara is jealous at all. We could see how she react on cheating on her back in LotSB. She didn't even ask you to break up with your actual LI if you had one. Not to mention that she was the one who didn't walk away when Shepard proposed her and other LI his small triangle idea.
So I think she will rather comfort Shepard than be angry at him if he lost his LI.

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I assume we're talking about deliberately two-timing both via LOTSB and not the ambiguous vanilla game.

I think she'd be hurt. Shepard essentially made her an accessory to cheating. But there'd also be sympathy for Shepard losing someone s/he loved. Ideally the relationship would be over for now, but the possibility of reconciliation would exist.

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Robhuzz wrote...

I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full. Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split. Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more. I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon. It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon. Oops, it wasn't what I though. Oh well.


Just don't measure paragon/renegade in percentage of a bar filled when talking about paragade and renagon. Simply put, a paragade is mostly paragon but has a touch of genegade-ness in him, for a renagon it's reversed. Doesn't matter how full my bars are. A paragon who uses several purely renegade options during the game is a paragade in my book.

Anyway, back to the topic of Liara.

A new dev promise was added: Dead romances from ME2 will not be ignored. So let's pretend you cheated on Liara (ridiculous idea I know but still...) with a random LI and said person died in the SM. What do you suppose Liara would say in ME3? Shepard did still cheat on her so she's got a right to be angry. On the other side, she can't force Shepard to choose unless Shepard has a touch of necrophilia but no... that's no option thankfully. So what would Liara say in this case?

That was the answer I recieved.  There are way too many pages for me to go through to find when I asked.  No matter.  Angry femShep bars are not even at the 40% mark and the only squaddie I need to get is Tali.  

I've never once had my LI get killed.  The Sheps with Ash or Kaidan, they're still alive and I didn't have any of the ME2 LIs die either.  I think something should come from it.  Shepard did cheat.  Especially, if Shepard and Liara confirmed their love for each other and then Shepard turns around and gets with someone else.  Bad Shepard bad.

This is why I think tool femShep is going to mess up her relationship with Liara.  

It makes me wonder what happens if Shepard broke it off with the ME2 LI after the SM.  Not sure if I want to play that Shepard that broke it off with Miranda after the SM.  Ash's picture came back up.

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gxkrizard wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full. Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split. Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more. I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon. It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon. Oops, it wasn't what I though. Oh well.


Just don't measure paragon/renegade in percentage of a bar filled when talking about paragade and renagon. Simply put, a paragade is mostly paragon but has a touch of genegade-ness in him, for a renagon it's reversed. Doesn't matter how full my bars are. A paragon who uses several purely renegade options during the game is a paragade in my book.

Anyway, back to the topic of Liara.

A new dev promise was added: Dead romances from ME2 will not be ignored. So let's pretend you cheated on Liara (ridiculous idea I know but still...) with a random LI and said person died in the SM. What do you suppose Liara would say in ME3? Shepard did still cheat on her so she's got a right to be angry. On the other side, she can't force Shepard to choose unless Shepard has a touch of necrophilia but no... that's no option thankfully. So what would Liara say in this case?


Well, I don't think Liara is jealous at all. We could see how she react on cheating on her back in LotSB. She didn't even ask you to break up with your actual LI if you had one. Not to mention that she was the one who didn't walk away when Shepard proposed her and other LI his small triangle idea.
So I think she will rather comfort Shepard than be angry at him if he lost his LI.

Actually Liara says, "She doesn't want to cause trouble, no arugments, no choices."  Liara does not want another ME1 type situation again.  So I think she will be very ticked off if Shepard has not broken it off with the ME2 LI if you get that line.  You also only get that line if you didn't do the interrupt kiss and doing the DLC after the SM.

Dead LI or not, I would expect Liara to be angry about it. 

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gxkrizard wrote...

Well, I don't think Liara is jealous at all. We could see how she react on cheating on her back in LotSB. She didn't even ask you to break up with your actual LI if you had one. Not to mention that she was the one who didn't walk away when Shepard proposed her and other LI his small triangle idea.
So I think she will rather comfort Shepard than be angry at him if he lost his LI.

She does get snippy at Shepard in Lotsb if is with someone else, so she's not happy about it. Also at the end of the DLC she also say "no arguments, no choices" implying if you're with her there should not be anybody else.
I dont think she likes to share at all, she just act more civilizated in general with any situation.

And about the not walking away in ME1 when the triangle is proposed, i took it as the typical passive views asari have, to just observe how the events unleash. (But to be honest BW just failed to add a scene there, because Liara say "i'm glad you choose me" to the triangle option, like if it was never mention)
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If Shepard cheated on Liara and then the ME2 LI died, i think she would say that she's sorry for Shepards lost. And if Shepard pursue Liara again i guess she would say something like: "I'm sorry Shepard, but i'm not someone you can take or drop at your convenience". And just stay as a friend

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Considering the big "cluster f*ck* invasion that's about to hit the whole galaxy with me3, I reckon Shep's past sexual romps.. he/she did will be passé .. As I believe the amount of sh*t Liara has gone through from me1+2 has been an emotional smash in the face for her.

I mean cmon their love is so strong it makes me think of 5th element style relationship lol.  Maybe they can stop the Reapers with luuuurve lol. *orgasmic kiss beam of light destroys all Reapers in one shot* :wizard:

Obviously this goes to all the Sheps that romanced Liara from me1+2 and may have had a nibble on something else between meals but rekindled it again with SB after SM... erm :whistle:

I wouldn't worry to much, but it would be great if Bioware pops in some funny grumpy dialogue moments of past hanky panky with a slap and tiff between the two of them. Then its back to saving the galaxy and after that, making blue babies together.
Not life threatening so bleh :wub: Reapers are the main worry not some past slap/tickle.

Forgive me If I mumble on I am stoned =]

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Ophiskc wrote...

gxkrizard wrote...

Well, I don't think Liara is jealous at all. We could see how she react on cheating on her back in LotSB. She didn't even ask you to break up with your actual LI if you had one. Not to mention that she was the one who didn't walk away when Shepard proposed her and other LI his small triangle idea.
So I think she will rather comfort Shepard than be angry at him if he lost his LI.

She does get snippy at Shepard in Lotsb if is with someone else, so she's not happy about it. Also at the end of the DLC she also say "no arguments, no choices" implying if you're with her there should not be anybody else.
I dont think she likes to share at all, she just act more civilizated in general with any situation.

And about the not walking away in ME1 when the triangle is proposed, i took it as the typical passive views asari have, to just observe how the events unleash. (But to be honest BW just failed to add a scene there, because Liara say "i'm glad you choose me" to the triangle option, like if it was never mention)
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If Shepard cheated on Liara and then the ME2 LI died, i think she would say that she's sorry for Shepards lost. And if Shepard pursue Liara again i guess she would say something like this: "I'm sorry Shepard, but i'm not someone you can take or drop at your convenience". And just stay as a friend

The "I'm glad you choose me" line Liara says is the same line if you just pick her as well.  BW does drop the ball on a few things in both games so far.  I'm sure they will again in ME3. 

I agree that Liara was taking the normal asari 'long' view of things with the triangle in ME1.  At this point.  only tool Shepards will put Liara through that again.  :whistle:

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ladyvader wrote...

gxkrizard wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full. Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split. Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more. I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon. It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon. Oops, it wasn't what I though. Oh well.


Just don't measure paragon/renegade in percentage of a bar filled when talking about paragade and renagon. Simply put, a paragade is mostly paragon but has a touch of genegade-ness in him, for a renagon it's reversed. Doesn't matter how full my bars are. A paragon who uses several purely renegade options during the game is a paragade in my book.

Anyway, back to the topic of Liara.

A new dev promise was added: Dead romances from ME2 will not be ignored. So let's pretend you cheated on Liara (ridiculous idea I know but still...) with a random LI and said person died in the SM. What do you suppose Liara would say in ME3? Shepard did still cheat on her so she's got a right to be angry. On the other side, she can't force Shepard to choose unless Shepard has a touch of necrophilia but no... that's no option thankfully. So what would Liara say in this case?


Well, I don't think Liara is jealous at all. We could see how she react on cheating on her back in LotSB. She didn't even ask you to break up with your actual LI if you had one. Not to mention that she was the one who didn't walk away when Shepard proposed her and other LI his small triangle idea.
So I think she will rather comfort Shepard than be angry at him if he lost his LI.

Actually Liara says, "She doesn't want to cause trouble, no arugments, no choices."  Liara does not want another ME1 type situation again.  So I think she will be very ticked off if Shepard has not broken it off with the ME2 LI if you get that line.  You also only get that line if you didn't do the interrupt kiss and doing the DLC after the SM.

Dead LI or not, I would expect Liara to be angry about it. 


Still it is hard for me to imagine her being angry at Shepard after the cabin scene. But of course Shepard must choose who s/he want to romance in ME3, I am not suggesting that Liara just let him romance another person if s/he wants to be with her.

Ophiskc wrote...

She does get snippy at Shepard in Lotsb if is with someone else, so she's not happy about it. Also at the end of the DLC she also say "no arguments, no choices" implying if you're with her there should not be anybody else.
I dont think she likes to share at all, she just act more civilizated in general with any situation.

And about the not walking away in ME1 when the triangle is proposed, i took it as the typical passive views asari have, to just observe how the events unleash. (But to be honest BW just failed to add a scene there, because Liara say "i'm glad you choose me" to the triangle option, like if it was never mention)
___________

If Shepard cheated on Liara and then the ME2 LI died, i think she would say that she's sorry for Shepards lost. And if Shepard pursue Liara again i guess she would say something like: "I'm sorry Shepard, but i'm not someone you can take or drop at your convenience". And just stay as a friend

Yeah, I agree on that. I didn't mean she likes to share Shepard with anyone else, I was rather suggesting that she isn't jealous person in general.

In summary, I think she will tell Shepard to choose between her and the other LI, but without any anger. I just think that's not her style.

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OOooooo  Nice.  Me likey.  Likey a lot.

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alex90c wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

I asked about renagons and paragades and was told neither bar is full. Max should be about 80%on one and about 50% on the other give or take, but I'm going for closer to a 50/50 split. Which I have right now with the paragon meter being about 5 points more. I had a renegade I thought might be a renagon. It was 100% renegade and 45% paragon. Oops, it wasn't what I though. Oh well.


Just don't measure paragon/renegade in percentage of a bar filled when talking about paragade and renagon. Simply put, a paragade is mostly paragon but has a touch of genegade-ness in him, for a renagon it's reversed. Doesn't matter how full my bars are. A paragon who uses several purely renegade options during the game is a paragade in my book.

Anyway, back to the topic of Liara.

A new dev promise was added: Dead romances from ME2 will not be ignored. So let's pretend you cheated on Liara (ridiculous idea I know but still...) with a random LI and said person died in the SM. What do you suppose Liara would say in ME3? Shepard did still cheat on her so she's got a right to be angry. On the other side, she can't force Shepard to choose unless Shepard has a touch of necrophilia but no... that's no option thankfully. So what would Liara say in this case?


I'm kinda hoping she'd just put her foot down and say "sorry Shepard, you blew it", and no amount of paragon persuasion will work on her, besides to maintain a cordial friendship.


I hope so! It's about time someone gave Shepard the finger and says 'No more!' although I doubt it will happen. I seriously hope it's something that can't be solved with a paragon persuasion.

Actually Liara says, "She doesn't want to cause trouble, no arugments, no choices."  Liara does not want another ME1 type situation again.  So I think she will be very ticked off if Shepard has not broken it off with the ME2 LI if you get that line.  You also only get that line if you didn't do the interrupt kiss and doing the DLC after the SM.

Dead LI or not, I would expect Liara to be angry about it. 


Indeed. She does not outright say it but I think we can conclude that since she says she wants no argument (no situation like ME1) she actually means: I'm not going to force you to choose again. Next time you do something like that, it's over. I actually hope it means this. Though I'm very worried it's going to be another simple conversation and you can just persuade Liara to give you another chance....

Modifié par Robhuzz, 15 septembre 2011 - 05:14 .