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[Robhuzz]

swordmalice wrote...

Sorry if this has been discussed already but I wanted to know what my fellow Liara fans thought about this - in LoTSB, after killing Tela Vasir Shep confronts Liara about their relationship if you romanced her in ME1. When Shep sarcastically asks if Liara is only glad to have him around because there "might be some terminals you need me to hack...". Liara then accuses him of not being fair, and uses the excuse "You were dead" to explain herself. What exactly is she saying by that? Sure he was dead but Liara knew that he'd be coming back...I dunno, what do you guys think?

I felt it was more like Shepard was pressing Liara on their relationship, seeing as she didn't want to talk about it in her Illium office. Shepard tried to bring it up gently after the fight with Vasir but again Liara dodged the entire thing, so Shepard forces the issue, he says "There's time to talk." and "About us". Shepard thinks Liara is behaving strangely but doesn't realise how badly hurt Liara was when Shepard died. He then says "You worried there may be terminals for me to hack?" since that was one of Liara's excuses for not speaking freely in her office before. Liara rebounds with "It's not fair. You were dead!". She's still not completely over the grief she felt when Shepard died 2 years ago and Shepard doesn't realize it for one way or another, possibly because Shepard can put himself over things much more quickly (Jenkins, Alenko/Williams). Like Ladyvader said, this lasts until they've defeated the Shadow Broker.

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Modifié par Robhuzz, 01 novembre 2011 - 05:03 .

[ladyvader]

Robhuzz wrote...

swordmalice wrote...

Sorry if this has been discussed already but I wanted to know what my fellow Liara fans thought about this - in LoTSB, after killing Tela Vasir Shep confronts Liara about their relationship if you romanced her in ME1. When Shep sarcastically asks if Liara is only glad to have him around because there "might be some terminals you need me to hack...". Liara then accuses him of not being fair, and uses the excuse "You were dead" to explain herself. What exactly is she saying by that? Sure he was dead but Liara knew that he'd be coming back...I dunno, what do you guys think?

I felt it was more like Shepard was pressing Liara on their relationship, seeing as she didn't want to talk about it in her Illium office. Shepard tried to bring it up gently after the fight with Vasir but again Liara dodged the entire thing, so Shepard forces the issue, he says "There's time to talk." and "About us". Shepard thinks Liara is behaving strangely but doesn't realise how badly hurt Liara was when Shepard died. He then says "You worried there may be terminals for me to hack?" since that was one of Liara's excuses for not speaking freely in her office before. Liara rebounds with "It's not fair. You were dead!". She's still not completely over the grief she felt when Shepard died 2 years ago and Shepard doesn't realize it for one way or another, possibly because Shepard can put himself over things much more quickly (Jenkins, Alenko/Williams). Like Ladyvader said, this lasts until they've defeated the Shadow Broker.

Also too, Shepard was dead for two years, but it doesn't seem like that to Shepard.  One moment Shepard gets spaced.  Next thing that happens is waking up on the Lazerus station with explosions and mechs shooting at you.

I don't think Shepard ever once thought about much after being told how long they were for.  Which contributes to the scenes on the balacony and Horizon with the VS.

[Robhuzz]

When Jacob tells Shepard for the 2nd time aboard the small shuttle on the way to see TIM, it does seem to sink in to Shepard but you may be right. It's easy for Shepard to forget being gone for 2 years.

[CrutchCricket]

Greetings Liara fans. I've been lurking the first pages of your thread for a bit but now I've actually got some questions.
I'm doing an ME2 playthrough where Liara was my LI. I plan to rekindle that in Shadow Broker but I've just finished doing the regular Illium missions and I'm at the convo after the Observer fiasco. My questions are about Shepard finding out she gave his body to Cerberus.
1. Does this play out differently if Liara was your LI vs if she wasn't? My main playthrough had Ashley as an LI and I seem to remember Liara actually gets more emotional during this part with actual tears. I could be wrong it's been a while since that playthrough. It would seem weird to me if she's sadder when she's not your romance.
2. After she finishes with "I'm sorry" you can either reassure her or get pissed. If you get pissed does it affect rekindling the romance in Shadow Broker?
3. What are your thoughts on an appropriate response? Both options have their own merits in and of themselves (comfort vs "what the hell?"). On one hand Male Shep sounds way too cheerful when I pick the comfort option, it's too jarring from the somber/angry tone he had before. On the other, scolding her reminds me too much of Horizon and the VS' inability to see past their emotions (though she responds better to it)
Thoughts?

[diamondedge]

It's easy for Shepard to forget being gone for 2 years.

For my Shepard, the realisation came at Horizon. When asked about it by Joker, I picked the renegade response, which was something along the lines of "another reminder of how I lost more than 2 years. I don't need this garbage."

Later, I felt slightly sorry about being so harsh, but really, Shepard has no perception on these two years until suddenly faced with Liara and Horizon.

Personally, I LOVED Liara arguing with Shepard during LotSB. She's done from someone constantly following you around, apologising for everything to a woman than can actively take care of herself, and disagree with Shepard if need be to defend her own interests. Even if that means denying you.

[swordmalice]

diamondedge wrote...

It's easy for Shepard to forget being gone for 2 years.

For my Shepard, the realisation came at Horizon. When asked about it by Joker, I picked the renegade response, which was something along the lines of "another reminder of how I lost more than 2 years. I don't need this garbage."

Later, I felt slightly sorry about being so harsh, but really, Shepard has no perception on these two years until suddenly faced with Liara and Horizon.

Personally, I LOVED Liara arguing with Shepard during LotSB. She's done from someone constantly following you around, apologising for everything to a woman than can actively take care of herself, and disagree with Shepard if need be to defend her own interests. Even if that means denying you.

Oh I loved it too; don't get me wrong, I thought it was an excellent showcasing of the dynamic between them (if they were lovers) and just how Shepard can't seem to grasp that he's been gone for 2 years and the people he once knew have changed. I just wish they could have elaborated with more dialogue between them, hence my previous question.

[Robhuzz]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Greetings Liara fans. I've been lurking the first pages of your thread for a bit but now I've actually got some questions.
I'm doing an ME2 playthrough where Liara was my LI. I plan to rekindle that in Shadow Broker but I've just finished doing the regular Illium missions and I'm at the convo after the Observer fiasco. My questions are about Shepard finding out she gave his body to Cerberus.
1. Does this play out differently if Liara was your LI vs if she wasn't? My main playthrough had Ashley as an LI and I seem to remember Liara actually gets more emotional during this part with actual tears. I could be wrong it's been a while since that playthrough. It would seem weird to me if she's sadder when she's not your romance.
2. After she finishes with "I'm sorry" you can either reassure her or get pissed. If you get pissed does it affect rekindling the romance in Shadow Broker?
3. What are your thoughts on an appropriate response? Both options have their own merits in and of themselves (comfort vs "what the hell?"). On one hand Male Shep sounds way too cheerful when I pick the comfort option, it's too jarring from the somber/angry tone he had before. On the other, scolding her reminds me too much of Horizon and the VS' inability to see past their emotions (though she responds better to it)
Thoughts?

First off, don't use the 'reason for anger' dialogue option when it comes up. You get a different dialogue when you start Lotsb and Shepard's response is downright cringeworthy if you pick the 'reason for anger' dialogue. Don't ask about it and Liara will tell you about it later. Can't say about what happens when Liara isn't your LI, I have no such playthrough. Getting pissed with Liara nets you a VERY angry looking Liara in response but it has no bearing on rekindling your romance later.

I think Shepard's 'My mission is important' response is downright cringeworthy, and getting pissed with her is not my style. She did what she thought she should do. Had the lazarus project ended differently (maybe with Shepard now being Cerberus' puppet) I would've been angry, but as things are now, everything worked out nicely and for the better, so I'm gratefull to Liara. No sense in moaning about a 'What if...' scenario anyway.

And finally: Welcome to the Liara T'soni fan thread. Always nice to see new people who appreciate Liara.

[PMC65]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Greetings Liara fans. I've been lurking the first pages of your thread for a bit but now I've actually got some questions.
I'm doing an ME2 playthrough where Liara was my LI. I plan to rekindle that in Shadow Broker but I've just finished doing the regular Illium missions and I'm at the convo after the Observer fiasco. My questions are about Shepard finding out she gave his body to Cerberus.
1. Does this play out differently if Liara was your LI vs if she wasn't? My main playthrough had Ashley as an LI and I seem to remember Liara actually gets more emotional during this part with actual tears. I could be wrong it's been a while since that playthrough. It would seem weird to me if she's sadder when she's not your romance.
2. After she finishes with "I'm sorry" you can either reassure her or get pissed. If you get pissed does it affect rekindling the romance in Shadow Broker?
3. What are your thoughts on an appropriate response? Both options have their own merits in and of themselves (comfort vs "what the hell?"). On one hand Male Shep sounds way too cheerful when I pick the comfort option, it's too jarring from the somber/angry tone he had before. On the other, scolding her reminds me too much of Horizon and the VS' inability to see past their emotions (though she responds better to it)
Thoughts?

Greetings CC ...

I tend to argue with her because it fits my Shepard. Nothing you do in her office will stop the romance so my advice would be pick the options that work best for your Shepard. I personally like Liara when she bites back starting on Therum.

It's only when you play LotSB that you can end the relationship with her.

EDIT: Or if you pick a new LI on the Normandy.

Modifié par PMC65, 01 novembre 2011 - 05:17 .

[CrutchCricket]

Robhuzz wrote...
First off, don't use the 'reason for anger' dialogue option when it comes up. You get a different dialogue when you start Lotsb and Shepard's response is downright cringeworthy if you pick the 'reason for anger' dialogue. Don't ask about it and Liara will tell you about it later. Can't say about what happens when Liara isn't your LI, I have no such playthrough. Getting pissed with Liara nets you a VERY angry looking Liara in response but it has no bearing on rekindling your romance later.

I think Shepard's 'My mission is important' response is downright cringeworthy, and getting pissed with her is not my style. She did what she thought she should do. Had the lazarus project ended differently (maybe with Shepard now being Cerberus' puppet) I would've been angry, but as things are now, everything worked out nicely and for the better, so I'm gratefull to Liara. No sense in moaning about a 'What if...' scenario anyway.

And finally: Welcome to the Liara T'soni fan thread. Always nice to see new people who appreciate Liara.

Oh, so she tells you about it without asking her through "reason for anger"? That may be what I saw before (which was way better than what I'm seeing now). Thanks, that makes it a lot easier!

And thanks for the welcome! I've always liked Liara though it was rocky for a bit. I ended up choosing Ashley at the confrontation in my first playthrough and almost immediately regretted it. I grew to like Ashley in her own right and I still do as a character. But I immediately started a second playthrough for Liara. When ME2 rolled around Miranda stole my main Shep but the alternate version of him is staying with Liara all the way. That's what I'm working on now.

[ladyvader]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...
First off, don't use the 'reason for anger' dialogue option when it comes up. You get a different dialogue when you start Lotsb and Shepard's response is downright cringeworthy if you pick the 'reason for anger' dialogue. Don't ask about it and Liara will tell you about it later. Can't say about what happens when Liara isn't your LI, I have no such playthrough. Getting pissed with Liara nets you a VERY angry looking Liara in response but it has no bearing on rekindling your romance later.

I think Shepard's 'My mission is important' response is downright cringeworthy, and getting pissed with her is not my style. She did what she thought she should do. Had the lazarus project ended differently (maybe with Shepard now being Cerberus' puppet) I would've been angry, but as things are now, everything worked out nicely and for the better, so I'm gratefull to Liara. No sense in moaning about a 'What if...' scenario anyway.

And finally: Welcome to the Liara T'soni fan thread. Always nice to see new people who appreciate Liara.

Oh, so she tells you about it without asking her through "reason for anger"? That may be what I saw before (which was way better than what I'm seeing now). Thanks, that makes it a lot easier!

And thanks for the welcome! I've always liked Liara though it was rocky for a bit. I ended up choosing Ashley at the confrontation in my first playthrough and almost immediately regretted it. I grew to like Ashley in her own right and I still do as a character. But I immediately started a second playthrough for Liara. When ME2 rolled around Miranda stole my main Shep but the alternate version of him is staying with Liara all the way. That's what I'm working on now.

She does at the beginning of the LotSB DLC before she leaves her office to head home.  In order to find ouit about it before the DLC is to ask "reason for anger?"  Which I didn't do at first.  You only get the one chance at it too.  

And welcome. 

[kumquats]

CrutchCricket wrote...
1. Does this play out differently if Liara was your LI vs if she wasn't? My main playthrough had Ashley as an LI and I seem to remember Liara actually gets more emotional during this part with actual tears. I could be wrong it's been a while since that playthrough. It would seem weird to me if she's sadder when she's not your romance.
2. After she finishes with "I'm sorry" you can either reassure her or get pissed. If you get pissed does it affect rekindling the romance in Shadow Broker?
3. What are your thoughts on an appropriate response? Both options have their own merits in and of themselves (comfort vs "what the hell?"). On one hand Male Shep sounds way too cheerful when I pick the comfort option, it's too jarring from the somber/angry tone he had before. On the other, scolding her reminds me too much of Horizon and the VS' inability to see past their emotions (though she responds better to it)
Thoughts?

Do you mean this answer:

Yes, there is a different dialogue if you didn't romance her.
This is from LotSB. I would have to check the vanilla answer. But in general I don't ask in ME2 about the SB. LotSB is much better.

The answer doesn't affect the romance at all.
Appropriate? That's hard to say. For the romance I pick the angry response, because my Shepard is pissed at Liara. I think it's hurting her that Liara isn't really talking to my Shepard.
With the friendship path I always pick the nicer aswer. He is just happy to be back again and he is glad to have such a good friend.

So it's mostly up to you and your Shepards.

[PMC65]

Just an FYI ... Vertigo posted this on the Miri thread ...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Posting here if you don't follow the twitter thread (shame on you)

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/131418601369513985

"We're spending the morning reviewing all the romance plots and scenes in #ME3. The team has done some amazing work - our best so far."

Can't help but wonder what they did with Mirandas Romance

I would love to see what they are doing with the Ashley / Liara / Miranda romances. Come on March!

[ladyvader]

PMC65 wrote...


Just an FYI ... Vertigo posted this on the Miri thread ...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Posting here if you don't follow the twitter thread (shame on you)

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/131418601369513985

"We're spending the morning reviewing all the romance plots and scenes in #ME3. The team has done some amazing work - our best so far."

Can't help but wonder what they did with Mirandas Romance

I would love to see what they are doing with the Ashley / Liara / Miranda romances. Come on March!

Thanks for sharing that PMC.  I've yet to check twitter today.  I do follow CHud.

[RolandX9]

diamondedge wrote...

Personally, I LOVED Liara arguing with Shepard during LotSB. She's done from someone constantly following you around, apologising for everything to a woman than can actively take care of herself, and disagree with Shepard if need be to defend her own interests. Even if that means denying you.

I'm glad that Liara's her own person, but man if her pain and barriers aren't a bitter pill to swallow at first. Personally, my favorite bits are the quips and bickering like old bondmates. "Remember when you could just slap omni-gel on everything?" "You just had to give them tactical advice." Heh.

Okay, okay, my real favorite bit is the reconciliation at the end, and the return of the real Liara -- matured by experience and sorrow, perhaps, but...well, I put my favorite part in my .sig, so there you go.

[Robhuzz]

PMC65 wrote...


Just an FYI ... Vertigo posted this on the Miri thread ...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Posting here if you don't follow the twitter thread (shame on you)

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/131418601369513985

"We're spending the morning reviewing all the romance plots and scenes in #ME3. The team has done some amazing work - our best so far."

Can't help but wonder what they did with Mirandas Romance

I would love to see what they are doing with the Ashley / Liara / Miranda romances. Come on March!

Thanks for posting that. That's an exiting tweet. 

"Our best so far" however, is subjective depending on what kind of romance BioWare wants. If they're going for ME1 style romances and it's better than ME1 then I can hardly wait:O

[ladyvader]

Robhuzz wrote...

PMC65 wrote...


Just an FYI ... Vertigo posted this on the Miri thread ...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Posting here if you don't follow the twitter thread (shame on you)

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/131418601369513985

"We're spending the morning reviewing all the romance plots and scenes in #ME3. The team has done some amazing work - our best so far."

Can't help but wonder what they did with Mirandas Romance

I would love to see what they are doing with the Ashley / Liara / Miranda romances. Come on March!

Thanks for posting that. That's an exiting tweet. 

"Our best so far" however, is subjective depending on what kind of romance BioWare wants. If they're going for ME1 style romances and it's better than ME1 then I can hardly wait:O

Can it really be worse than ME2 dry humping at times?  Or head bump(Garrus)

[diamondedge]

I wish they also dedicated some time to those who would like to build life lasting friendships. I never did quite understand why Bioware has to go to such extremes sometimes. Like, have you ever considered "hey, I came all the way down to see and talk to you because I'd like us to be friends. The fact I'm worried about you doesn't mean I want to f*ck you, I genuinely care and just want to talk."

Pretty please?

[Korkki]

diamondedge wrote...

I wish they also dedicated some time to those who would like to build life lasting friendships. I never did quite understand why Bioware has to go to such extremes sometimes. Like, have you ever considered "hey, I came all the way down to see and talk to you because I'd like us to be friends. The fact I'm worried about you doesn't mean I want to f*ck you, I genuinely care and just want to talk."

Pretty please?

This was something I found pretty annoying too, because I like to chat with different characters and get to know them better but it's always something like 3rd conversation when you get this "hey I like you, but we can't have sex now, we have to wait untill the last battle!" -line and you're like " o_O ...being nice and friendly doesn't mean I want to screw you, you know, I just wanted to be your friend"

The other thing that was kind of stupid in ME2 was that when you got this line I described above, you couldn't say something like "sry, your kinda nice but I already have Liara (or other ME1 LI)" or something like that.

[IndigoWolfe]

Romances in Mass Effect 3, Liara's romance arc more than others, have potential to be something truly standout.

In ME1 and in ME2, you have the kindling of the romance that plays out to a love scene, pretty much like it's always been with romances.

Now, in ME3, you have the exciting possibilities of how the romance will continue and what different dynamics it will explore. Shepard and Liara aren't a new item anymore. They're comfortable around each other, their relationship has matured. They're not starting a relationship, or rekindling one, they are maintaining it. I don't think we've ever really seen this in a Bioware game before.

The closest I can think of is Carth Onasi at the end of KOTOR 2. And I really liked that scene.

[Rune-Chan]

I think it is a shame that you cannot romance Liara in LOTSB if you didn't in ME1. From my Shepard's perspective, she simply didn't have the timein a romantic relationship while chasing after Saren, but after realising what Liara went through to get her back, she is more willing to take the time.

I know that it can happen in ME3, but it is still a shame.

diamondedge wrote...

I wish they also dedicated some time to those who would like to build life lasting friendships. I never did quite understand why Bioware has to go to such extremes sometimes. Like, have you ever considered "hey, I came all the way down to see and talk to you because I'd like us to be friends. The fact I'm worried about you doesn't mean I want to f*ck you, I genuinely care and just want to talk."

Pretty please?

I think that is a problem with Bioware's way of dealing with things in general though, it is frequently one extreme or the other, funnily enough, despite my above complaint, if you didn't romance Liara in ME1 then her dialogue in LOTSB is a lot more like how you describe you would like it.

Sadly this doesn't happen so much for other romancable characters, only the non-romancable ones.

[PMC65]

Korkki wrote...

diamondedge wrote...

I wish they also dedicated some time to those who would like to build life lasting friendships. I never did quite understand why Bioware has to go to such extremes sometimes. Like, have you ever considered "hey, I came all the way down to see and talk to you because I'd like us to be friends. The fact I'm worried about you doesn't mean I want to f*ck you, I genuinely care and just want to talk."

Pretty please?

This was something I found pretty annoying too, because I like to chat with different characters and get to know them better but it's always something like 3rd conversation when you get this "hey I like you, but we can't have sex now, we have to wait untill the last battle!" -line and you're like " o_O ...being nice and friendly doesn't mean I want to screw you, you know, I just wanted to be your friend"

The other thing that was kind of stupid in ME2 was that when you got this line I described above, you couldn't say something like "sry, your kinda nice but I already have Liara (or other ME1 LI)" or something like that.

Casey Hudson said that friendships would have more dialogue (no more Garrus calibrating all the time). I believe he tweeted this but I can't remember. Maybe someone else here on the thread has that link? I'll look to see if I can locate as well.

[Unata]

ladyvader wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

PMC65 wrote...


Just an FYI ... Vertigo posted this on the Miri thread ...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Posting here if you don't follow the twitter thread (shame on you)

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/131418601369513985

"We're spending the morning reviewing all the romance plots and scenes in #ME3. The team has done some amazing work - our best so far."

Can't help but wonder what they did with Mirandas Romance

I would love to see what they are doing with the Ashley / Liara / Miranda romances. Come on March!

Thanks for posting that. That's an exiting tweet. 

"Our best so far" however, is subjective depending on what kind of romance BioWare wants. If they're going for ME1 style romances and it's better than ME1 then I can hardly wait:O

Can it really be worse than ME2 dry humping at times?  Or head bump(Garrus)

One can only hope BUT the simple fact he says "Romance plots AND Scenes". leads me to believe they've put more thought into it and the "- our best so far" part gives me hope they will have an emotional impact on our Shepards if not oursleves.

Is it March yet?

[Robhuzz]

ladyvader wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

PMC65 wrote...


Just an FYI ... Vertigo posted this on the Miri thread ...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Posting here if you don't follow the twitter thread (shame on you)

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/131418601369513985

"We're spending the morning reviewing all the romance plots and scenes in #ME3. The team has done some amazing work - our best so far."

Can't help but wonder what they did with Mirandas Romance

I would love to see what they are doing with the Ashley / Liara / Miranda romances. Come on March!

Thanks for posting that. That's an exiting tweet. 

"Our best so far" however, is subjective depending on what kind of romance BioWare wants. If they're going for ME1 style romances and it's better than ME1 then I can hardly wait:O

Can it really be worse than ME2 dry humping at times?  Or head bump(Garrus)

If that's what BioWare is going for and then claim it's 'the best they've done so far' then... yes. But it's BioWare creating this game, no rushing like DA2 and not too much EA meddling (I hope) so it's bound to be something spectacular. So with that settled, who wants a Shepard/Liara shower scene for ME3? Shep's got a bathroom in his personal cabins, let's use it:whistle:

The other thing that was kind of stupid in ME2 was that when you got this line I described above, you couldn't say something like "sry, your kinda nice but I already have Liara (or other ME1 LI)" or something like that.

This so much! Every time Tali brings up the romance topic I just want Shepard to bring up his romance with Liara rather than 'I can't risk your safety'

Modifié par Robhuzz, 01 novembre 2011 - 07:28 .

[RolandX9]

diamondedge wrote...

I wish they also dedicated some time to those who would like to build life lasting friendships. I never did quite understand why Bioware has to go to such extremes sometimes. Like, have you ever considered "hey, I came all the way down to see and talk to you because I'd like us to be friends. The fact I'm worried about you doesn't mean I want to f*ck you, I genuinely care and just want to talk."

Pretty please?

QFT. I love the LI stuff, but Jack's complete inability to relate to someone outside a romance, Garrus' endless calibrations and Miranda literally turning off the lights because you're seeing someone else...all frustrating. Not to reopen the 1 vs 2 debate, but I found Liara and the Alliance squaddies equally interesting both in and out of romance in 1. I really want to see as much attention paid to the crew = family dynamic as to the Shepard soap opera.

On a related note (and back on topic), I like Liara as a friend as much as I do as an LI. She's really very similar either way, which is nice to see. Sure, I dig the "healing" romances in 2 (everyone but Jacob and Tali, IMHO), but that Liara is the same person whether Shepard's her lover or sibling-in-arms is pretty cool.

[Korkki]

Robhuzz wrote...

The other thing that was kind of stupid in ME2 was that when you got this line I described above, you couldn't say something like "sry, your kinda nice but I already have Liara (or other ME1 LI)" or something like that.

This so much! Every time Tali brings up the romance topic I just want Shepard to bring up his romance with Liara rather than 'I can't risk your safety'

This Tali thing was exactly what I was referring to. I really like her character and she's one of my favorite characters right after Liara, so I don't want to be rude to her or anything but I'm sorry Tali, Liara is the one for my Shep. My Shep don't want to risk her ofc but he wasn't get romantically involved with her in the first place, so why I can't just say that, I like you but only as a friend, not romantically.