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Lizardviking wrote...

Trinity66 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

男性Shepard Liara看很古怪對我。 我意味我主要看見Mshep和Miranda,距骨或者Ashly。 I' 太多大概認為在此的m。 從未被看見的Ihave是這普遍在西部电子游戏的S/S配對。

因此为什么femshep/liara是否是更加普遍的?


I really can't understand people who keep bothering themselves with reading the threads that they don't like.
I mean, what a no lifer such person must be.


What does the text say exactly?


Nothing? As I get this, he's trying to say there's a lot of bull**** in this thread and most of it is about Shepard/Liara, Ashley, Miranda.

If I'm wrong, I apologize. But my statement is still true. People keep moaning in threads they have no place in.

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LouTenant wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Trinity66 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

男性Shepard Liara看很古怪對我。 我意味我主要看見Mshep和Miranda,距骨或者Ashly。 I' 太多大概認為在此的m。 從未被看見的Ihave是這普遍在西部电子游戏的S/S配對。

因此为什么femshep/liara是否是更加普遍的?


I really can't understand people who keep bothering themselves with reading the threads that they don't like.
I mean, what a no lifer such person must be.


What does the text say exactly?


If I understood that correctly, he only asked why femshep/Liara pairing is more common and why MShep is usually paired up with Ash, Tali and Miranda and not Liara.

Google translate :mellow:


Yes, that was what I was asking.
I'm way too tired to keep track of what language I'm supposed to be typing.

Modifié par Yuqi, 09 décembre 2011 - 12:32 .


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Yuqi wrote...

LouTenant wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Trinity66 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

男性Shepard Liara看很古怪對我。 我意味我主要看見Mshep和Miranda,距骨或者Ashly。 I' 太多大概認為在此的m。 從未被看見的Ihave是這普遍在西部电子游戏的S/S配對。

因此为什么femshep/liara是否是更加普遍的?


I really can't understand people who keep bothering themselves with reading the threads that they don't like.
I mean, what a no lifer such person must be.


What does the text say exactly?


If I understood that correctly, he only asked why femshep/Liara pairing is more common and why MShep is usually paired up with Ash, Tali and Miranda and not Liara.

Google translate :mellow:


Yes, that was what I was asking.
I'm way too tired to keep track of what language I'm supposed to be typing.


Apologise Yuqi, but i had no idea why would you type in chinese, if you can in english and that confused me. =]

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Trinity66 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

LouTenant wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Trinity66 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

男性Shepard Liara看很古怪對我。 我意味我主要看見Mshep和Miranda,距骨或者Ashly。 I' 太多大概認為在此的m。 從未被看見的Ihave是這普遍在西部电子游戏的S/S配對。

因此为什么femshep/liara是否是更加普遍的?


I really can't understand people who keep bothering themselves with reading the threads that they don't like.
I mean, what a no lifer such person must be.


What does the text say exactly?


If I understood that correctly, he only asked why femshep/Liara pairing is more common and why MShep is usually paired up with Ash, Tali and Miranda and not Liara.

Google translate :mellow:


Yes, that was what I was asking.
I'm way too tired to keep track of what language I'm supposed to be typing.


Apologise Yuqi, but i had no idea why would you type in chinese, if you can in english and that confused me. =]


Because I have to use both frequently..it's just as confusing for me.There are words inChinese that have no english  word. When I'm speakign one and typing the other, sometimes you forget your not supposed to type what your speaking.


Back on topic: Why is Mshep always most with Tali/Miranda/Ashly.

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I asked that question myself a couple of times. Well, one things is for sure that there are many more malesheps then female. :D

EDIT: I have both male and female sheps, both romanced Liara, but I still think Liara romance suits better for femshep and I don't know why. I can't explain. Maybe because asari are all "females" and imagination adds to it and it feels like they're more confortable with female partners? :? 

Modifié par Trinity66, 09 décembre 2011 - 12:57 .


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And malesheps, I think most of guys IRL would probably go for Miranda and Ashley, because they look more sexy (pretty sure most of guys feels that way, not me anyways)...

And for Tali ...   Well, the mystery of the mask is playing huge role there I think.

Modifié par Trinity66, 09 décembre 2011 - 01:04 .


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I originally played ME2 first (due to not really knowing about the series, I picked it up on the cheap) and did a couple of playthroughs in which I romanced Tali both times, originally was going to pick Miranda but was won over by Tali as the game went on.

After deciding that I really needed to go back and play ME1 as I was hooked on the series, I romanced Liara in all but 1 of my playthroughs, both MShep and Femshep, and picked Ashley one time.

I do plan on going back to ME2 and romancing Jack with my Renegade Shep, but generally, since going back and playing ME1 have always picked Liara (of course).

Agree with Trinity that men may go for Miranda or Ash due to the looks factor but a lot will come down to how people role play their individual Shep's.

Would be interested to see some stats on the romances to see what percentage of players romanced who.

Modifié par SGUK, 09 décembre 2011 - 01:26 .


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Yuqi wrote...


Back on topic: Why is Mshep always most with Tali/Miranda/Ashly.


That is actually something I've been wondering too. I'm male myself and all my Shepards are male and all of them romanced Liara. Never understood the fascination of Ashley or Miranda, well I like Tali a lot, as a character, but she's more like a little sister for my Shep than anything else. Maybe it's simply just that for most men Ash and Miranda are "easy" to like. They're both human females, no weird sci-fi alien things included, and in ME1 Ash is only romancaple character for male Shep, if you don't want to go for Liara. And Miranda ofc, in that tight cat suit of hers and, well... that ass... so maybe that is the only reason for most male gamers. Tali is a nice character so I can understand why some people romance her, and maybe part of it is that helmet and all the mystery it brings, and those hips. And because both genders can romance Liara maybe some just romance Liara with fem Shep and Tali with male Shep, if they're playing with both Shepards, I dunno...

A good example of this is my friend, my only friend who plays mass effects. He went for Ash in ME1 and for Miranda in ME2, and he, for god knows what reason, dislikes Liara. :? I mean c'mon, you're palying a sci-fi game and he says that it's abnormal to be with an alien (BSN is missing a facepalm emoticon here) But he's still my friend ofc, I'm just always annoying him on purpose with all the Liara stuff, and by talking about mass effects and Liara in general, serves him right :P

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Why is this question so important for you? I'm just curious because this question comes up at least once a month.
Not that I'm not tempted, I always thought Liara and my Paragon would make a cute couple. In the end, the Paragon romance with Liara bores me. So I stick with my Renegade, mostly because Jennifer Hale is such a flirt.
Makes LotSB highly amusing. ^^
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I was watching the new gameplay footage for Ninja Gaiden 3, and the woman sounds a lot like Ali Hillis.

Can anyone tell if it's really her?

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Mr_DeMille wrote...

I was watching the new gameplay footage for Ninja Gaiden 3, and the woman sounds a lot like Ali Hillis.

Can anyone tell if it's really her?


I think so and I think the Ninja is Troy Baker, LoL.

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kumquats wrote...

Mr_DeMille wrote...

I was watching the new gameplay footage for Ninja Gaiden 3, and the woman sounds a lot like Ali Hillis.

Can anyone tell if it's really her?


I think so and I think the Ninja is Troy Baker, LoL.

Yep it is:
http://www.behindthe...Mizuki-McCloud/
i am more worried as where ryu's dragon sword went!

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steph285 wrote...

kumquats wrote...

Mr_DeMille wrote...

I was watching the new gameplay footage for Ninja Gaiden 3, and the woman sounds a lot like Ali Hillis.

Can anyone tell if it's really her?


I think so and I think the Ninja is Troy Baker, LoL.

Yep it is:
http://www.behindthe...Mizuki-McCloud/
i am more worried as where ryu's dragon sword went!


Thanks, I was 99% sure. With the lack of dismemberment and the horrible looking multiplayer, this makes me just a little bit more interested in this game.

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Mr_DeMille wrote...

steph285 wrote...

kumquats wrote...

Mr_DeMille wrote...

I was watching the new gameplay footage for Ninja Gaiden 3, and the woman sounds a lot like Ali Hillis.

Can anyone tell if it's really her?


I think so and I think the Ninja is Troy Baker, LoL.

Yep it is:
http://www.behindthe...Mizuki-McCloud/
i am more worried as where ryu's dragon sword went!


Thanks, I was 99% sure. With the lack of dismemberment and the horrible looking multiplayer, this makes me just a little bit more interested in this game.

WHAT?! No desmemberment and M...M...Multiplayer!!!Image IPBImage IPB
Well into think even Ali can rescue this game now.Image IPB

Need...some...more...Liare:
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Phew! felling much better!

Modifié par steph285, 09 décembre 2011 - 06:06 .


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Yuqi wrote...

LouTenant wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Trinity66 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

男性Shepard Liara看很古怪對我。 我意味我主要看見Mshep和Miranda,距骨或者Ashly。 I' 太多大概認為在此的m。 從未被看見的Ihave是這普遍在西部电子游戏的S/S配對。

因此为什么femshep/liara是否是更加普遍的?


I really can't understand people who keep bothering themselves with reading the threads that they don't like.
I mean, what a no lifer such person must be.


What does the text say exactly?


If I understood that correctly, he only asked why femshep/Liara pairing is more common and why MShep is usually paired up with Ash, Tali and Miranda and not Liara.

Google translate :mellow:


Yes, that was what I was asking.
I'm way too tired to keep track of what language I'm supposed to be typing.


I think some of it, or at least for me, I think that Alli Hillis has better much better chemisty with Jennifer Hale than with Mark Meer.

In Mass Effect 1. Jennifer Hale made the dialoge that leads up to sex scene she sounded like sensual, caring, funny, and even a little curious about it, while Mark Meer sounded like a creepy, desprate, and dirty old man. In the coda to Lair of the Shadow Broker Hale and Hillis sound like their in the same room, while Meer and Hillis sounded like they are talking on the phone. 

For me Hale and Hillis have a natural and great chemisty while Meer and Hillis just don't have that kind of chemisty. That is just my opinion.    

Modifié par Cyberstrike nTo, 09 décembre 2011 - 06:08 .


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kumquats wrote...

Why is this question so important for you? I'm just curious because this question comes up at least once a month.
Not that I'm not tempted, I always thought Liara and my Paragon would make a cute couple. In the end, the Paragon romance with Liara bores me. So I stick with my Renegade, mostly because Jennifer Hale is such a flirt.
Makes LotSB highly amusing. ^^
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My canon Shepard is a maleshep. But that's mainly because I prefer playing maleshep when playing a self insert. While the femshep is for roleplaying.

I do prefer Ali with Mark, but I think it just comes down to how I want Shepard to act. I find Hale sometimes underacts it. While Meer does a good job with frustration, anger, and snark. Like a Deckard character.

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I'm Male, I always play a Male Shepard and always Romance Liara.


I'm not a fan of Ashley, Miranda, Tali.

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Cool Liara pic!

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In Mass Effect 1. Jennifer Hale made the dialoge that leads up to sex scene she sounded like sensual, caring, funny, and even a little curious about it, while Mark Meer sounded like a creepy, desprate, and dirty old man. In the coda to Lair of the Shadow Broker Hale and Hillis sound like their in the same room, while Meer and Hillis sounded like they are talking on the phone.


That's how all dialogue should sound really. Sometimes I do wonder at what time they record the dialogue and how much info they gave the voice actors regarding the situation. A very notable one is when starting the Reaper IFF mission. The normandy is shaking violently and an alarm sounds, Shepard runs towards Joker and the next moment he's asking: "What's with all the chop Joker?" Not even raising his voice in the slightest, as if they're standing next to eachother in the library... I do hope little things like these get fixed for ME3.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 09 décembre 2011 - 07:26 .


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But there is no specific reason why this question is asked so much?
I mean, the core romance doesn't change at all, you could even romance her with a Vorcha and it would be the same romance, it's just how you want your Shepard.

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I bet if Ashley, Miranda, Tali and also Jack, too were actually available for a female Shepard to romance we would see more of that, too. I guess it is that simple.

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kumquats wrote...

Why is this question so important for you? I'm just curious because this question comes up at least once a month.
Not that I'm not tempted, I always thought Liara and my Paragon would make a cute couple. In the end, the Paragon romance with Liara bores me. So I stick with my Renegade, mostly because Jennifer Hale is such a flirt.
Makes LotSB highly amusing. ^^



I agree about Jennifer Hale being more flirty and amusing. The Asure Dialouge had me in stiches. I think why the question intrests me so much, is I'm used to seeing S/S in eastern games but not in western. I did not expect it to be as well done as in an eastern game.

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

I think some of it, or at least for me, I think that Alli Hillis has better much better chemisty with Jennifer Hale than with Mark Meer. 

In Mass Effect 1. Jennifer Hale made the dialoge that leads up to sex scene she sounded like sensual, caring, funny, and even a little curious about it, while Mark Meer sounded like a creepy, desprate, and dirty old man. In the coda toLair of the Shadow Broker Hale and Hillis sound like their in the same room, while Meer and Hillis sounded like they are talking on the phone. 

For me Hale and Hillis have a natural and great chemisty while Meer and Hillis just don't have that kind of chemisty. That is just my opinion.    


I noticed that too, but Meer delivers the Azure line better. Thats about the only line he does in LOTSB IMO. Sometimes it sounds like he considers his lines  a 'chore'

Korkki wrote...

Yuqi wrote...


Back on topic: Why is Mshep always most with Tali/Miranda/Ashly.


That is actually something I've been wondering too. I'm male myself and all my Shepards are male and all of them romanced Liara. Never understood the fascination of Ashley or Miranda, well I like Tali a lot, as a character, but she's more like a little sister for my Shep than anything else. Maybe it's simply just that for most men Ash and Miranda are "easy" to like. They're both human females, no weird sci-fi alien things included, and in ME1 Ash is only romancaple character for male Shep, if you don't want to go for Liara. And Miranda ofc, in that tight cat suit of hers and, well... that ass... so maybe that is the only reason for most male gamers. Tali is a nice character so I can understand why some people romance her, and maybe part of it is that helmet and all the mystery it brings, and those hips. And because both genders can romance Liara maybe some just romance Liara with fem Shep and Tali with male Shep, if they're playing with both Shepards, I dunno...

A good example of this is my friend, my only friend who plays mass effects. He went for Ash in ME1 and for Miranda in ME2, and he, for god knows what reason, dislikes Liara. :? I mean c'mon, you're palying a sci-fi game and he says that it's abnormal to be with an alien (BSN is missing a facepalm emoticon here) But he's still my friend ofc, I'm just always annoying him on purpose with all the Liara stuff, and by talking about mass effects and Liara in general, serves him right :P


Hmnn intresting point, I think another possible thing is Miranda's accent. She also had the most pornlike cutscene*Facepalm*

Yes I also think the mystery side of things is half the reasonpeople romance Tali.

SGUK wrote...

I originally played ME2 first (due to not really knowing about the series, I picked it up on the cheap) and did a couple of playthroughs in which I romanced Tali both times, originally was going to pick Miranda but was won over by Tali as the game went on.

After deciding that I really needed to go back and play ME1 as I was hooked on the series, I romanced Liara in all but 1 of my playthroughs, both MShep and Femshep, and picked Ashley one time.

I do plan on going back to ME2 and romancing Jack with my Renegade Shep, but generally, since going back and playing ME1 have always picked Liara (of course).

Agree with Trinity that men may go for Miranda or Ash due to the looks factor but a lot will come down to how people role play their individual Shep's.

Would be interested to see some stats on the romances to see what percentage of players romanced who.



I'm gussing the Stats for ME2 msheppers would most likely go in this order.
1Miranda
2Tali
3Jack
4-Liara

Trinity66 wrote...

I asked that question myself a couple of times. Well, one things is for sure that there are many more malesheps then female. :D

EDIT: I have both male and female sheps, both romanced Liara, but I still think Liara romance suits better for femshep and I don't know why. I can't explain. Maybe because asari are all "females" and imagination adds to it and it feels like they're more confortable with female partners? :? 


Maybe your right about the female thing. Maybe another part of it is the ability for a female to have children with an Asari. Imean lets face it, for a male to is not as fascinating.What I mean is an Asari still looks female, so visually a male/asari is not that big of a deal to most mshep players.Maybe for them its practiccly just a third female?

I saw ona youtube video that Hale said; her favorite ME character was Liara.Maybe that helps int he VA

Modifié par Yuqi, 10 décembre 2011 - 01:07 .


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kumquats wrote...
But there is no specific reason why this question is asked so much?
I mean, the core romance doesn't change at all, you could even romance her with a Vorcha and it would be the same romance, it's just how you want your Shepard.


I don't know...I think it's b/c some find it unusual that the Femshep version (i.e., 'lesbian' version) is what's preferred (which I don't think is even true but that's their perception)...so they feel the need to ask 'why'.

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Yuqi wrote (Google translated)...

Male Shepard Liara look very strange to me. I mean I mainly see Mshep and Miranda, talus or Ashly. I 'too much about that in the m. Ihave never been seen in the west in general is that video game S / S pair.

So why femshep / liara whether it is more common?


Wow, did Google translation just come up with a vaguely legible translation from a non-European language? Will wonders never cease?

Well let's see... there's a good chance that a lot of FemShep players are male and would rather their character romanced a female LI even if they're playing a woman.

Now as for why the Femshep/Liara romance is more popular than S/S relationships in general... that might be because it's officially not  (Bioware has at least established (somewhat)plausible deniability).

Yuqi wrote...

I agree about Jennifer Hale being more flirty and amusing. The Asure Dialouge had me in stiches. I think why the question intrests me so much, is I'm used to seeing S/S in eastern games but not in western. I did not expect it to be as well done as in an eastern game


...Are S/S relationships really more common in Eastern games?

http://tvtropes.org/.../Main/GayOption

Yuqi wrote...

I noticed that too, but Meer delivers the Azure line better. Thats about the only line he does in LOTSB IMO. Sometimes it sounds like he considers his lines  a 'chore'


I think Jennifer Hale's just a better actor. Now Mark Meer has grown on me recently but still.